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[#1]
Awesome.
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I actually saw TPM instagram your gun this afternoon before you posted, so I ran here to beat you to the punch. Here's my Omega/TPM love child https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/147241/IMG_3409-315565.JPG View Quote |
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[#3]
I’m seriously considering the MP5SD as my first sear host. Looking to pair an Omega clone with a SD suppressor. Seems like TPM is highly recommended... but the traditional 12” length or the new 8” suppressor length??
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[#4]
I only have experience with the 12" suppressor, but that's the one I would go with. TPM's can is so lightweight that I don't think the length matters. Plus, my inner purist...
And the point of the SD, to me, is to be as quiet as possible in a semi auto host. I think the 12" makes the most sense unless you just really place a high priority on the length. |
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[#6]
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I’m seriously considering the MP5SD as my first sear host. Looking to pair an Omega clone with a SD suppressor. Seems like TPM is highly recommended... but the traditional 12” length or the new 8” suppressor length?? View Quote their short SD suppressor and the long one. They were planning on doing some sound tests in the near future. |
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[#7]
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Somewhere I saw a post from the guys at TPM stating that it was very hard to tell the difference between their short SD suppressor and the long one. They were planning on doing some sound tests in the near future. View Quote |
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[#10]
Unless you want the pure/iconic look of the MP5SD, I’d go with the 8”.
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[#11]
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I have heard it in person, and yes, to the ear... it is identical. Both are very quiet. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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Somewhere I saw a post from the guys at TPM stating that it was very hard to tell the difference between their short SD suppressor and the long one. They were planning on doing some sound tests in the near future. |
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[#13]
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So what's the difference? Did they change the baffle construction/arrangement? Seems interesting to me that they can remove 1/3 of their volume and get the same reduction in sound. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes |
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[#14]
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So what's the difference? Did they change the baffle construction/arrangement? Seems interesting to me that they can remove 1/3 of their volume and get the same reduction in sound. View Quote Matt at TPM was going to do some readings on them. Only thing left to do is thread the tubes and get them hard anodized. |
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[#16]
My Omega has some pretty awful accuracy at 25 yards with the TPM can. Hopefully it's just shitty Prvi and UMC ammo.
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[#20]
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My Omega has some pretty awful accuracy at 25 yards with the TPM can. Hopefully it's just shitty Prvi and UMC ammo. View Quote Mine seems accurate enough with a Curtis Tactical can. |
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[#21]
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Everything is the same, with some better and tighter tolerance differences, 2 baffles removed. Like I said, to the ear, they sound damn near identical indoors. Haven't shot one outdoors so I can't speak to that effect. Don't have a dB meter to measure them. Matt at TPM was going to do some readings on them. Only thing left to do is thread the tubes and get them hard anodized. View Quote Are those shooting impressions from the shooter’s ear? Or bystanders? I’m wondering if the action noise of the MP5 itself makes it hard to tell a noticeable difference... but an obvious one for others nearby. |
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[#22]
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FWIW, my Omega SD did not come with a Sealing Ring installed. It did come with some wacky looking washing/o-ring in a bag which looked like it might have fit, but I elected not to try to install it and ordered a genuine one from HK Parts. Mine seems accurate enough with a Curtis Tactical can. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
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My Omega has some pretty awful accuracy at 25 yards with the TPM can. Hopefully it's just shitty Prvi and UMC ammo. Mine seems accurate enough with a Curtis Tactical can. Accuracy seemed reasonable at 15-30’ . I only tried two 30 round mags. More of a function check of my new Omega SD. I will report back when transfer of the TPM can happens. I bought a spare sealing ring from hkparts.net anyway. |
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[#23]
I'm pretty sure mine already has a sealing ring.
Next time I'll shoot it from the bench to take more of the shooter out of the equation. |
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[#25]
Can you check if the franklin binary works on a mm23e and the mp5-10mm?
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[#27]
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I need this. B&T Rail for the SD. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/83570/53E15736-BB89-446E-80D9-0763914489B6-336832.jpg Someone locate one for me please? View Quote Now send me that trigger so I can test on my 10mm |
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[#28]
I owe @Engineer a big thanks for posting the recommendation for Curtis Tactical about 20 pages ago. I want to have my Sten turned into a Mk. II(S), an integrally silenced version of the Sten with a ported barrel, just like the MP5SD. Actually, I've read that the Sten Mk. II(S) was the first silenced SMG, which would make it the grandfather of the SD. Everyone on UziTalk recommended KGB Arms / Andy Blaschik, who carries a legendary reputation in the Sten / Sterling world, but his design uses a washer-spacer-washer arrangement. Everything else about it sounded perfect, but I just wasn't comfortable going with technology that old.
I emailed Curtis Tactical / Joseph Jones with a very specific list of criteria that I thought would make the perfect Sten silencer, and asked what he thought. 15 minutes later I had an email back from him saying he's already drawn up EXACTLY what I have in mind for his own Sten, and once I send a barrel and barrel nut his direction, he'll have a reason to go ahead and make one for himself and for me! So in a few short decades when the ATF decides to approve some forms, I'll be the proud owner of what will probably be the quietest ever Sten Mk. II(S) courtesy of Curtis Tactical. I am STOKED, and I would have never heard about him if not for Engineer's post. @goloud I need a Welrod to finish the trio of automatic, semi-automatic, and...manual. Any update on the B&T VP9? Cost, release date, actual baffles vs. wipes? Integrally suppress all the things! |
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[#29]
Joe is good people for sure.
I’ll ask about the VP9 again. I have hope. Quoted:
I owe @Engineer a big thanks for posting the recommendation for Curtis Tactical about 20 pages ago. I want to have my Sten turned into a Mk. II(S), an integrally silenced version of the Sten with a ported barrel, just like the MP5SD. Actually, I've read that the Sten Mk. II(S) was the first silenced SMG, which would make it the grandfather of the SD. Everyone on UziTalk recommended KGB Arms / Andy Blaschik, who carries a legendary reputation in the Sten / Sterling world, but his design uses a washer-spacer-washer arrangement. Everything else about it sounded perfect, but I just wasn't comfortable going with technology that old. I emailed Curtis Tactical / Joseph Jones with a very specific list of criteria that I thought would make the perfect Sten silencer, and asked what he thought. 15 minutes later I had an email back from him saying he's already drawn up EXACTLY what I have in mind for his own Sten, and once I send a barrel and barrel nut his direction, he'll have a reason to go ahead and make one for himself and for me! So in a few short decades when the ATF decides to approve some forms, I'll be the proud owner of what will probably be the quietest ever Sten Mk. II(S) courtesy of Curtis Tactical. I am STOKED, and I would have never heard about him if not for Engineer's post. @goloud I need a Welrod to finish the trio of automatic, semi-automatic, and...manual. Any update on the B&T VP9? Cost, release date, actual baffles vs. wipes? Integrally suppress all the things! View Quote |
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I need this. B&T Rail for the SD. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/83570/53E15736-BB89-446E-80D9-0763914489B6-336832.jpg Someone locate one for me please? View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Quoted:
I need this. B&T Rail for the SD. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/83570/53E15736-BB89-446E-80D9-0763914489B6-336832.jpg Someone locate one for me please? Quoted:
ouch!! Worth every penny! |
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[#31]
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Does your shroud have the correct slot at 6 o'clock for that or will you have to drill n tap holes? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/259653/dwjnm9pt-109140.jpg Worth every penny! View Quote |
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[#35]
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I owe @Engineer a big thanks for posting the recommendation for Curtis Tactical about 20 pages ago. I want to have my Sten turned into a Mk. II(S), an integrally silenced version of the Sten with a ported barrel, just like the MP5SD. Actually, I've read that the Sten Mk. II(S) was the first silenced SMG, which would make it the grandfather of the SD. Everyone on UziTalk recommended KGB Arms / Andy Blaschik, who carries a legendary reputation in the Sten / Sterling world, but his design uses a washer-spacer-washer arrangement. Everything else about it sounded perfect, but I just wasn't comfortable going with technology that old. I emailed Curtis Tactical / Joseph Jones with a very specific list of criteria that I thought would make the perfect Sten silencer, and asked what he thought. 15 minutes later I had an email back from him saying he's already drawn up EXACTLY what I have in mind for his own Sten, and once I send a barrel and barrel nut his direction, he'll have a reason to go ahead and make one for himself and for me! So in a few short decades when the ATF decides to approve some forms, I'll be the proud owner of what will probably be the quietest ever Sten Mk. II(S) courtesy of Curtis Tactical. I am STOKED, and I would have never heard about him if not for Engineer's post. @goloud I need a Welrod to finish the trio of automatic, semi-automatic, and...manual. Any update on the B&T VP9? Cost, release date, actual baffles vs. wipes? Integrally suppress all the things! View Quote |
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[#37]
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I need to check on the drilling/tapping. View Quote |
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[#38]
So I scrolled through a lot of pages
Seems like one dude didn't think his SD sounded so great compared to his K Another seems to think his SD is quite a bit quieter So is the juice worth the squeeze? |
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[#39]
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So I scrolled through a lot of pages Seems like one dude didn't think his SD sounded so great compared to his K Another seems to think his SD is quite a bit quieter So is the juice worth the squeeze? View Quote |
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[#40]
Kinda still up in the air about getting one too. Now I got my honey badger I kinda want to SD to complete the "old and new." Just wondering how much I want to spend.
I already have extra mags and parts and stocks so adding another Mp5 seems like I would save some on accessories.. Or at least how I want to justify it in my mind. |
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[#43]
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You know what you must do... https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/259653/20170225-124656-153864.jpg View Quote Which do you take shooting the most often? I got PM'd by someone saying the MP5SD is cool but it wears off after a while since 147gr is comparable in sound from a suppressed full size or K gun. Apparently the frequent cleaning for a MP5SD gets old. I've got an Octane 9 that I'm planning on keeping on a full size MP5 host... leaning heavily towards getting a Omega 9K for a SP5K or MP5K clone... and contemplating a MP5SD. |
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[#44]
1. MP5
2. MP5SD 3. MP5K Also cleaning an SD isnt that bad. I dont feel like my cans need to be spotless either. Dirty cans sound better anyway |
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[#45]
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Ya... I'm going to need you to rank them. Which do you take shooting the most often? I got PM'd by someone saying the MP5SD is cool but it wears off after a while since 147gr is comparable in sound from a suppressed full size or K gun. Apparently the frequent cleaning for a MP5SD gets old. I've got an Octane 9 that I'm planning on keeping on a full size MP5 host... leaning heavily towards getting a Omega 9K for a SP5K or MP5K clone... and contemplating a MP5SD. View Quote Lots o' cash for something I kinda sorta already have |
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[#47]
No suppressor required. Lot of options if you have a threaded 3-lug barrel. MP5SD needs its own specific suppressor. Get MP5 first and your mags, spare parts, etc. Then if you get an SD down the road, you're already "there"
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[#48]
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Why MP5 over MP5SD? View Quote My list would have the SD at the bottom with a tossup between the "K" and the MP5 as 1 or 2 depending on what your needs/wants are. Also - if you reload, you can tune a load to produce near SD-like performance without having $4K + 2 stamps sunk into a one trick pony. |
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[#49]
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My list would have the SD at the bottom with a tossup between the "K" and the MP5 as 1 or 2 depending on what your needs/wants are. View Quote |
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