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Posted: 5/20/2023 3:35:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user: Kind of depends on where it's been. If it was originally sold to mil. it will probably sell for more than one that was originally sold to a guy playing call of duty in his parents basement. Damn, Ron. I took that one personally. 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 5/20/2023 4:08:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider:[/  b]Damn, Ron. I took that one personally. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider:[/ b][b]Originally Posted By k31user: Kind of depends on where it's been. If it was originally sold to mil. it will probably sell for more than one that was originally sold to a guy playing call of duty in his parents basement. Damn, Ron. I took that one personally. That cuts deep. The man has a sharp tongue. 
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Posted: 5/20/2023 7:58:15 PM EDT
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Right in the feels…
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Posted: 5/20/2023 10:14:26 PM EDT
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I’d venture to say most of us in this thread felt that swift kick to the pants.
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/20/2023 11:13:41 PM EDT
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I get calls once in a while from people with older Ops Inc suppressors wanting to know about them. Most are ones that were sold form 3 to dealers, but every once in a while
one was originally sent to the military and then worked its way back to a form 3 or 4. People seem to be excited when they find one of those. Anything Ops Inc for sale is a rarity, stuff that was originally sent to the military even more so. |
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Posted: 5/20/2023 11:35:52 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user: I get calls once in a while from people with older Ops Inc suppressors wanting to know about them. Most are ones that were sold form 3 to dealers, but every once in a while one was originally sent to the military and then worked its way back to a form 3 or 4. People seem to be excited when they find one of those. Anything Ops Inc for sale is a rarity, stuff that was originally sent to the military even more so. I will be shooting you a email in a week or so about this specific ops suppressor. I would assume it’s commercial but have not got it in hand yet. Waiting for the form 3 to clear. |
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USA
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Posted: 5/21/2023 4:43:11 PM EDT
[#7]
Is there a good source for Ron Allen AEM5s? Are they still out there?
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Posted: 5/25/2023 11:42:48 PM EDT
[#8]
@k31user
Hey Ron do you have a ETA on the next batch of M4 cans? Currently on the list via email communication. Thanks |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 5/27/2023 12:29:29 AM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fridgepants: @k31user Hey Ron do you have a ETA on the next batch of M4 cans? Currently on the list via email communication. Thanks
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Posted: 5/27/2023 9:00:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Brandonbeezy]
[#10]
@k31user
Hey Ron, a while ago we talked on the phone about putting a Gordon can and collar on a pencil barrel. You told me the minimum barrel diameter you needed with your collar but I'm not sure if im remembering correctly. I believe you said .570. I'm picking another colt with the pencil barrel and i know that over the years the od of the barrel was slightly different, so im hoping ill be able to get this one set up after a good chop from dave. Also, someone on fb said that you were able to get their pencil colt done up, so i definitely know they had different od's throughout their production. Thanks man |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 5/27/2023 10:15:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Brandonbeezy: @k31user Hey Ron, a while ago we talked on the phone about putting a Gordon can and collar on a pencil barrel. You told me the minimum barrel diameter you needed with your collar but I'm not sure if im remembering correctly. I believe you said .570. I'm picking another colt with the pencil barrel and i know that over the years the od of the barrel was slightly different, so im hoping ill be able to get this one set up after a good chop from dave. Also, someone on fb said that you were able to get their pencil colt done up, so i definitely know they had different od's throughout their production. Thanks man My blank collars are around .570 so anything bigger than that is good. |
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Posted: 5/27/2023 10:19:21 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user: My blank collars are around .570 so anything bigger than that is good. Thank you sir! Hopefully this one works out haha |
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Posted: 5/29/2023 6:57:36 PM EDT
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Posted: 5/30/2023 2:19:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WhiteDingo: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/65278/20230529_181309_exported_2694_1685400918-2833822.JPG Proof comp contour barrel profiled for AEM5. Hornady 73 ELD-Ms at 972 and 1030 today. A man of culture I see, We should hang out. |
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Posted: 6/1/2023 12:33:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MK3110: https://i.postimg.cc/wjbRqDWT/776-D015-B-16-E6-42-E7-AACA-575305-D688-D1.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/JzhBCp52/82-B57-F66-B878-495-E-8108-864667-B7-FF8-D.jpg AEM5-30 on a 6.5CM. What barrel length did you go with? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/1/2023 1:02:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SlimThiccBob: What barrel length did you go with? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SlimThiccBob: Originally Posted By MK3110: https://i.postimg.cc/wjbRqDWT/776-D015-B-16-E6-42-E7-AACA-575305-D688-D1.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/JzhBCp52/82-B57-F66-B878-495-E-8108-864667-B7-FF8-D.jpg AEM5-30 on a 6.5CM. What barrel length did you go with? 22”, she’s thicccccc |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2023 10:15:19 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user: I have a batch going together now. Email me and I'll let you know what dealers are getting them and when. Any idea when Kevin O'neils AEM5-30 orders will be fulfilled? I've had an order through him for a couple years now. 😁 |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2023 6:22:04 PM EDT
[#18]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By APSArmament: Any idea when Kevin O'neils AEM5-30 orders will be fulfilled? I've had an order through him for a couple years now. 😁 Kevin's order will be heading to Cerakote next week. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/2/2023 7:48:51 PM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user: Kevin's order will be heading to Cerakote next week. Awesome news! Thanks you Ron. I sincerely appreciate the update! I've been wanting one of your cans for a very long time. |
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SC, USA
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Posted: 6/3/2023 12:36:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cdholmes]
[#20]
@k31user
I sent you an email with measurements for a Gordon collar. |
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Posted: 6/6/2023 12:26:44 PM EDT
[#21]
Any good builds using the spikes tapered gas block? I’ve seen Outriders pics with the URX 3.1 and a lot with the FF RAS medium. I have a 3.1 on another build and I’m not paying an absurd price for a FF RAS medium. My only two thoughts right now are G Fed rail or Larue Gooseneck with the block 1/2 exposed ish
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/6/2023 2:01:19 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DackJaniels: Any good builds using the spikes tapered gas block? I’ve seen Outriders pics with the URX 3.1 and a lot with the FF RAS medium. I have a 3.1 on another build and I’m not paying an absurd price for a FF RAS medium. My only two thoughts right now are G Fed rail or Larue Gooseneck with the block 1/2 exposed ish Cut up a URX4. Or I like the Gooseneck idea |
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Posted: 6/6/2023 8:58:44 PM EDT
[#23]
Ive looked back several pages and haven't seen the otter creek ocm 5 mentioned. I know its not clone correct but is there any reason not to give one a try? Local shop has one at a good price.
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Posted: 6/6/2023 9:12:51 PM EDT
[#24]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By leebo14: Ive looked back several pages and haven't seen the otter creek ocm 5 mentioned. I know its not clone correct but is there any reason not to give one a try? Local shop has one at a good price. You won’t see it because this thread is only for OPS Inc or Allen Engineering. No discussion of OCL here. |
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Posted: 6/6/2023 9:25:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By leebo14: is there any reason not to give one a try? The owner is polarizing |
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Posted: 6/6/2023 9:39:55 PM EDT
[#26]
Good to know, sorry for the thread drift
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USA
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Posted: 6/8/2023 2:05:10 AM EDT
[#27]
Just picked up my AEM5 yesterday after a 6 month wait. Got to try it out and love it. Now I just need one of the Gordon suppressors !
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MT, USA
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Posted: 6/9/2023 7:23:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: cebiNg]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KavonTN: My Smith Vortex mount, I'm told they were a contract run for Canadian SF who didn't want muzzle breaks. http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x109/KavonT/Mobile%20Uploads/20150305_144151.jpg" target="_blank">http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x109/KavonT/Mobile%20Uploads/20150305_144151.jpg With it is an adapter that allows me to mount on a barrel without the profile. 16th model on a 12.5'' http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x109/KavonT/20140810_230845.jpg" target="_blank">http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x109/KavonT/20140810_230845.jpg Who made the collar? Ron? |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2023 8:36:02 PM EDT
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Any word on AEM5/30? I just built a MK12 mod 0 in 6mmARC and I want a can for it.
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TX, USA
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Posted: 6/10/2023 9:35:37 PM EDT
[Last Edit: CMCctx]
[#30]
@k31user is there a downside to boring an AEM5 to 30 cal, but mainly being used for 5.56?
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Posted: 6/11/2023 1:02:27 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 545superiority: Any word on AEM5/30? I just built a MK12 mod 0 in 6mmARC and I want a can for it. 11 posts above yours is the only recent news. I think Trajectory Arms is gearing up to make them too. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 6/11/2023 1:15:55 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheTacticalCoyote: 11 posts above yours is the only recent news. I think Trajectory Arms is gearing up to make them too. Yes they are. I just finished a batch but are all spoken for once they come back from cerakote. |
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USA
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Posted: 6/11/2023 3:16:49 PM EDT
[#33]
Are .30 cal brakes available for the Aem5-30 ? I’m thinking of getting one once they are available from Trajectory Arms to use on a Tikka super varmint. I know I’ll need to profile the barrel , I don’t believe it has enough meat so I think I’ll have to go with a collar.
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Posted: 6/11/2023 3:50:04 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By home_alone1: Are .30 cal brakes available for the Aem5-30 ? I’m thinking of getting one once they are available from Trajectory Arms to use on a Tikka super varmint. I know I’ll need to profile the barrel , I don’t believe it has enough meat so I think I’ll have to go with a collar. Yes, contact Ron. I had him turn a mount that was for 6.5 to .30 cal |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 6/11/2023 4:01:38 PM EDT
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 545superiority: Any word on AEM5/30? I just built a MK12 mod 0 in 6mmARC and I want a can for it. See if TA will open the bore on an AEM5 for 6mm if you don’t plan on shooting .30cal. Won’t have to deal with the added length and weight of the AEM5-30. |
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USA
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Posted: 6/11/2023 10:57:21 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MK3110: See if TA will open the bore on an AEM5 for 6mm if you don’t plan on shooting .30cal. Won’t have to deal with the added length and weight of the AEM5-30. That’s the route I’d go. 5-30 is a big, heavy can. |
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Posted: 6/11/2023 11:06:38 PM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By home_alone1: Are .30 cal brakes available for the Aem5-30 ? I’m thinking of getting one once they are available from Trajectory Arms to use on a Tikka super varmint. I know I’ll need to profile the barrel , I don’t believe it has enough meat so I think I’ll have to go with a collar. I’m ‘assuming’ that TA would also be spinning up some 5/8x24 mounts to accompany the 5/30’s since they will be producing in higher volumes? Purely speculative on my end however |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 6/12/2023 9:59:35 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SlimThiccBob: I’m ‘assuming’ that TA would also be spinning up some 5/8x24 mounts to accompany the 5/30’s since they will be producing in higher volumes? Purely speculative on my end however I have a batch of brakes that will be headed to plating this weekend. |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 11:57:48 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user: I have a batch of brakes that will be headed to plating this weekend. Anyway I could jump on one of those or are they spoken for? |
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Posted: 6/12/2023 7:36:03 PM EDT
[#40]
Helping a friend with this project. Since I’ve never worked with these before, can I get some input on how to remove it? The Colt barrel it is on shoots 5-6” groups at 25’
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Posted: 6/12/2023 7:59:26 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VLODPG: Helping a friend with this project. Since I’ve never worked with these before, can I get some input on how to remove it? The Colt barrel it is on shoots 5-6” groups at 25’https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/56434/8820477E-25A4-41B7-9521-C16753091EC7_jpe-2849361.JPG It's probably glued on there. Take a torch to it until you see lots of smoke, then clamp on the vise grips. |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 6/13/2023 10:43:42 PM EDT
[#42]
I'm having a hard time figuring out a concrete answer on this, would a 13.5" Geissele rail work with a 16" BA barrel and am AEM5/OCM5?
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Posted: 6/13/2023 10:50:23 PM EDT
[#43]
So uhh has anyone had cans re-cored to be reflex cans such as the AE?
I have an old SpecWar 7.62 that hasn't had a round through it in probably 5 years due to its size and weight. I actually hate it even though it sounds amazing. Wonder if anyone could/would be willing to recore it to be a reflex suppressor that works with the Ops brake and collar |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 10:52:09 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKoch31: So uhh has anyone had cans re-cored to be reflex cans such as the AE? I have an old SpecWar 7.62 that hasn't had a round through it in probably 5 years due to its size and weight. I actually hate it even though it sounds amazing. Wonder if anyone could/would be willing to recore it to be a reflex suppressor that works with the Ops brake and collar Interesting idea Seems expensive honestly |
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Posted: 6/13/2023 11:12:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKoch31: So uhh has anyone had cans re-cored to be reflex cans such as the AE? I have an old SpecWar 7.62 that hasn't had a round through it in probably 5 years due to its size and weight. I actually hate it even though it sounds amazing. Wonder if anyone could/would be willing to recore it to be a reflex suppressor that works with the Ops brake and collar Use it as a doorstop. That’s what I do with mine. |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 2:37:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SlimThiccBob]
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By legomant: I'm having a hard time figuring out a concrete answer on this, would a 13.5" Geissele rail work with a 16" BA barrel and am AEM5/OCM5? It will not. I have the same setup and had to chop about 1/8" off to get enough clearance for the can. Top pic is OCM5 and the bottom is an AEM5   |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 2:48:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: SlimThiccBob]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKoch31: So uhh has anyone had cans re-cored to be reflex cans such as the AE? I have an old SpecWar 7.62 that hasn't had a round through it in probably 5 years due to its size and weight. I actually hate it even though it sounds amazing. Wonder if anyone could/would be willing to recore it to be a reflex suppressor that works with the Ops brake and collar I know BSD fab works does a bunch of machining with suppressors and changing mounting systems out. You might shoot him a message and see if he could integrate the AE pattern |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 5:05:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SlimThiccBob: I know BSD fab works does a bunch of machining with suppressors and changing mounting systems out. You might shoot him a message and see if he could integrate the AE pattern Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SlimThiccBob: Originally Posted By AKoch31: So uhh has anyone had cans re-cored to be reflex cans such as the AE? I have an old SpecWar 7.62 that hasn't had a round through it in probably 5 years due to its size and weight. I actually hate it even though it sounds amazing. Wonder if anyone could/would be willing to recore it to be a reflex suppressor that works with the Ops brake and collar I know BSD fab works does a bunch of machining with suppressors and changing mounting systems out. You might shoot him a message and see if he could integrate the AE pattern A 1/2x28 thread, over the barrel reflex blast chamber, and a taper to Ron’s collar spec would be a cool adaptor in the 1.375x24 ecosystem |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 10:17:14 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AKoch31: So uhh has anyone had cans re-cored to be reflex cans such as the AE? I have an old SpecWar 7.62 that hasn't had a round through it in probably 5 years due to its size and weight. I actually hate it even though it sounds amazing. Wonder if anyone could/would be willing to recore it to be a reflex suppressor that works with the Ops brake and collar I’m probably wrong but I was under the impression you can’t change the length of your can. So adding a reflex chamber would be a no-go given the distance from the muzzle device to the first baffle in most cans is pretty short, there’s just not enough space to give it the 2.5” or whatever an AEM5 needs from the threads to the taper. |
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Posted: 6/14/2023 10:31:44 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kaotic504: I’m probably wrong but I was under the impression you can’t change the length of your can. So adding a reflex chamber would be a no-go given the distance from the muzzle device to the first baffle in most cans is pretty short, there’s just not enough space to give it the 2.5” or whatever an AEM5 needs from the threads to the taper. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kaotic504: Originally Posted By AKoch31: So uhh has anyone had cans re-cored to be reflex cans such as the AE? I have an old SpecWar 7.62 that hasn't had a round through it in probably 5 years due to its size and weight. I actually hate it even though it sounds amazing. Wonder if anyone could/would be willing to recore it to be a reflex suppressor that works with the Ops brake and collar I’m probably wrong but I was under the impression you can’t change the length of your can. So adding a reflex chamber would be a no-go given the distance from the muzzle device to the first baffle in most cans is pretty short, there’s just not enough space to give it the 2.5” or whatever an AEM5 needs from the threads to the taper. AFAIK that's correct. You can shorten it but not lengthen it. |
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