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iluvmy86

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Posted: 8/31/2018 12:40:18 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By eodsix:
Quote "That M24 marked can i badass! So is the M24 can a .30 cal version of the AEM5?"

My M24 suppressor from Ron Allen is essentially identical to the Ops Inc. 3rd Model which became the AE 3rd Model. Correct me if I'm off here Ron please.

My Sep 1988 M24 and my Sep 2013 M24A2
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what is the length on the M24 can?

KavonTN Member Joined Jan 2007 Posts 2672 EE 98% (42) GA, USA	Posted: 8/31/2018 1:24:48 PM EDT [#2] Quote History Originally Posted By Rothperson87: How do I join this group? It’s not coming up in a search. View Quote This, if it's hidden can I get a invite?
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Posted: 8/31/2018 5:33:42 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By KavonTN:
This, if it's hidden can I get a invite?

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Originally Posted By Rothperson87:

How do I join this group? It’s not coming up in a search.

This, if it's hidden can I get a invite?

Not sure if this link is going to work
https://www.facebook.com/groups/656372144546587/

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Desert_AIP I always get the shakes before a drop Joined Mar 2005 Posts 34009 EE 100% (53) WA, USA	Posted: 8/31/2018 6:15:40 PM EDT [#4] Quote History Originally Posted By Engel12626: Not sure if this link is going to work https://www.facebook.com/groups/656372144546587/ View Quote Worked for me. Request sent.
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goloud The Voice of Reason Joined Oct 2005 Posts 6214 EE 100% (71) NH, USA	Posted: 9/1/2018 5:29:47 PM EDT [#5] Still working...
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k31user Joined Apr 2006 Posts 384 EE 0% (0) CA, USA	Posted: 9/1/2018 6:32:19 PM EDT [#6] Saw it cooled off a bit in NH.

Into_the_Void Strength Determination Merciless Forever Joined Oct 2009 Posts 7281 EE 100% (233) PA, USA	Posted: 9/1/2018 7:39:17 PM EDT [#7] This may sound idiotic, but I'm a complete can rookie. Should I ever clean my aem5? Like blasting it out with brake cleaner?

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Posted: 9/2/2018 1:48:21 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By goloud:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/83570/B794E648-07A1-43A9-A336-228926013E5D-658083.jpg

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Originally Posted By goloud:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/83570/B794E648-07A1-43A9-A336-228926013E5D-658083.jpg

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Originally Posted By k31user:
Saw it cooled off a bit in NH.

.224 Valkyrie through an AEM4/AEM5?

eodsix Joined Apr 2003 Posts 169 EE 100% (28) AR, USA	Posted: 9/2/2018 5:29:53 PM EDT [#9] Quote History Originally Posted By iluvmy86: what is the length on the M24 can? View Quote The 3rd model/M24 can is 12.5" long

BurtSaun1049 Operator of Operatory Operations Joined Dec 2009 Posts 4181 EE 100% (35) TN, USA	Posted: 9/2/2018 8:35:01 PM EDT [#10] Quote History Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: This may sound idiotic, but I'm a complete can rookie. Should I ever clean my aem5? Like blasting it out with brake cleaner? View Quote Nope! Shoot it like you stole it, repeat until you're out of ammo.
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Posted: 9/6/2018 11:47:45 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By goloud:
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Many thanks for metering the two suppressors Pete. I wasn't expecting it to be much quieter, but honestly thought it would be at least 1 db quieter. Volume and extra baffles help when you are at the limits for a certain cartridge. But this just shows that the standard AEM5 is not straining with the small .224 Valkyrie. I'll try the new baffle stack on an AE30 first section and compare it to the standard AE30 on .308 and the various 6.5's. Dropping an inch or so in length would be nice since it's probably not needed until you get up into the .300 WinMag range.
Thanks again.
RonA

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Posted: 9/6/2018 2:41:54 PM EDT

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Again, I’m very appreciative of Ron for letting me borrow his meter and for the use of the AEM5s. These are some of the quietest setups available and are truly a pleasure to shoot.

Raw data:

224 V 88gr ELD Match
24” bbl
82 degrees
80% humidity
224 AEM5
B&K 2209 A Weighted

MILSTD Muzzle

128.2
126.5
128.1
127.1
126.5
127.8
128
127.3
127.7
126.8 BHO

EAR

130+
131.2
134.9
135.9
133.6 BHO
127
132.1
134.9
130.5

BCM 18”
223 62gr M855
AEM5

132.6
130.5
130.4
131.1
132.1
131
130.6
130.9
130.4
130.3

EAR

139.4
138.4
138.3
139.9
139.5
139.1
138.8
137.4
139.1
138.9 BHO

M855 in 224V AEM5
18” BCM

MILSTD

130.6
130.7
130.5
131.2
130.6
130.3
130.8
130.6
130.4
131.5

EAR

138.7
137.5
137.2
138.4
137.9
139.7
136.2
137.8
138.9
139.6 BHO

224 V in 223 AEM5
24” bbl
MILSTD

129
126.2
127
127.5
128.1 BHO
128.6
128.6
126.9
128.1
127.4 BHO

EAR

130+
134.1
133
134.4
132 BHO
131.6
130.9
129.9
130.5
131.5 BHO

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Originally Posted By k31user:

Many thanks for metering the two suppressors Pete. I wasn't expecting it to be much quieter, but honestly thought it would be at least 1 db quieter. Volume and extra baffles help when you are at the limits for a certain cartridge. But this just shows that the standard AEM5 is not straining with the small .224 Valkyrie. I'll try the new baffle stack on an AE30 first section and compare it to the standard AE30 on .308 and the various 6.5's. Dropping an inch or so in length would be nice since it's probably not needed until you get up into the .300 WinMag range.
Thanks again.
RonA

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HaveBlue83 Joined Nov 2009 Posts 3555 EE 100% (72) PA, USA	Posted: 9/6/2018 4:35:53 PM EDT [#13] Quote History Originally Posted By BK6: .224 Valkyrie through an AEM4/AEM5? View Quote soon as i get my aem5 in its gonna go on my 20" Bison ops profiled rig. cant wait

k31user Joined Apr 2006 Posts 386 EE 0% (0) CA, USA	Posted: 9/7/2018 8:20:11 AM EDT [#14] The longer barrel helps cartridge performance and suppressor performance. Faster and quieter is good, at least to a point.

goloud The Voice of Reason Joined Oct 2005 Posts 6219 EE 100% (71) NH, USA	Posted: 9/8/2018 5:14:33 PM EDT [#15] https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/09/08/aem5-valkyrie/
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Ironmaker I used to make 4140 & 4150, now I make Cu alloys. Joined Sep 2004 Posts 7054 EE 100% (6) OH, USA	Posted: 9/10/2018 4:16:08 PM EDT [#16] I am having my Rem 700 308 re-barreled to 6.5 CM and will have the barrel shouldered for my AE30. Anyone use on AE30 on a 6.5 caliber? Is it as effective as it is on a 30 caliber? Can you tell a difference?
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k31user Joined Apr 2006 Posts 387 EE 0% (0) CA, USA	Posted: 9/10/2018 4:43:58 PM EDT [#17] The very first AE30's I made went to Accurate Ordnance in GA. They seemed to be very happy with them on their 6.5 CM's. RonA

Ironmaker I used to make 4140 & 4150, now I make Cu alloys. Joined Sep 2004 Posts 7055 EE 100% (6) OH, USA	Posted: 9/11/2018 7:48:01 AM EDT [#18] Quote History Originally Posted By k31user: The very first AE30's I made went to Accurate Ordnance in GA. They seemed to be very happy with them on their 6.5 CM's. RonA View Quote Good to hear, get it? "hear" I am going from a 20" 308 to 24" 6.5, so it may even be quieter.
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k31user Joined Apr 2006 Posts 392 EE 0% (0) CA, USA	Posted: 9/14/2018 9:09:29 AM EDT [#19] Thanks for the video link Pete. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc3iOVO_Vqc

goloud The Voice of Reason Joined Oct 2005 Posts 6222 EE 100% (71) NH, USA	Posted: 9/14/2018 11:02:27 AM EDT [#20] Quote History Originally Posted By k31user: Thanks for the video link Pete. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc3iOVO_Vqc View Quote Guns of SOCOM: The Mk12 Special Purpose Rifle https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc3iOVO_Vqc
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kemp Joined Dec 2005 Posts 670 EE 0% (0) NLD	Posted: 9/16/2018 4:27:21 PM EDT [Last Edit: kemp] [#21] So i came across this on youtube.. Is this a 12th model? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMkOuGQliHI

11B3XCIB Joined Apr 2012 Posts 222 EE 100% (17) SC, USA	Posted: 9/16/2018 7:48:44 PM EDT [#22] Quote History Originally Posted By goloud: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tc3iOVO_Vqc View Quote I enjoyed the video. I have to say, and I know this is off topic, but I’ve never seen anyone pull the trigger with the second joint of their finger before.

WriterClarke Joined Feb 2015 Posts 48 EE 100% (21) AZ, USA	Posted: 9/19/2018 3:50:01 PM EDT [#23] Has anyone attempted to attach an AEM5 to something like the Spike's Tactical LRS one piece mount? I've been interested in an AEM5 and was wondering if there was some way to circumvent profiling a barrel. It wouldn't be going on an AR so there isn't a chance for me to get a pre-profiled barrel.

KavonTN Member Joined Jan 2007 Posts 2678 EE 98% (42) GA, USA	Posted: 9/19/2018 4:44:50 PM EDT [Last Edit: KavonTN] [#24] I have a collar that indexes off of the shoulder for my 16th model. I think I got it from steve? ETA: Attached File
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SpyHawk Joined Mar 2001 Posts 879 EE 100% (9) NC, USA	Posted: 9/25/2018 7:57:51 AM EDT [#25] I don't remember seeing this video posted. This is one amazing AK, complete with Allen Engineering magic sauce. AK-Niner Mk1 - "Spetsnaz Concept" Kalashnikov (Saiga 223, AK102) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XYtBvQjcCc https://youtu.be/3XYtBvQjcCc hot link

WriterClarke Joined Feb 2015 Posts 51 EE 100% (21) AZ, USA	Posted: 9/25/2018 6:56:22 PM EDT [#26] Quote History Originally Posted By KavonTN: I have a collar that indexes off of the shoulder for my 16th model. I think I got it from steve? ETA:https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/116042/20180919_164633-1-676619.JPG View Quote That's definitely something I'd be interested in.

k31user Joined Apr 2006 Posts 393 EE 0% (0) CA, USA	Posted: 9/25/2018 8:39:06 PM EDT [#27] I call those "No step collars". I have blanks down at the shop. Just need barrel diameter. RonA

WriterClarke Joined Feb 2015 Posts 52 EE 100% (21) AZ, USA	Posted: 9/26/2018 7:35:02 PM EDT [#28] Quote History Originally Posted By k31user: I call those "No step collars". I have blanks down at the shop. Just need barrel diameter. RonA View Quote How much would you charge for one of them?

rgb Joined Jun 2009 Posts 463 EE 100% (40) VA, USA	Posted: 9/27/2018 2:54:06 PM EDT [Last Edit: rgb] [#29] Quote History Originally Posted By k31user: I call those "No step collars". I have blanks down at the shop. Just need barrel diameter. RonA View Quote Are these available for regular M4a1 barrels or only for non-tapered barrels? Any compatible with an AEM5? Edit* I know you have an m4aem5 adapter I just like options

northcoastwizard Joined Feb 2014 Posts 36 EE 100% (40) WA, USA	Posted: 10/3/2018 11:07:21 PM EDT [Last Edit: northcoastwizard] [#30] Got really excited, my 30 cal set came in today from Brownell's, marked as OPS 12th 308. As compared with an installed 22cal .setup. I'd believe it's a 30 bore, but a 1/2x28 pitch, fits perfect... on a 223 barrel. Quite frustrating, because I got this for a 300blk barrel.

k31user Joined Apr 2006 Posts 394 EE 0% (0) CA, USA	Posted: 10/4/2018 11:01:04 AM EDT [Last Edit: k31user] [#31] Looks a bit short(distance from front of brake threads to start of taper). Happy to see Brownells has dropped their price. RonA

northcoastwizard Joined Feb 2014 Posts 37 EE 100% (40) WA, USA	Posted: 10/4/2018 1:09:11 PM EDT [Last Edit: northcoastwizard] [#32] Quote History Originally Posted By k31user: Looks a bit short(distance from front of brake threads to start of taper). Happy to see Brownells has dropped their price. RonA View Quote Yeah that barrel's an M4 profile, I just set it on for the picture. Were there a lot of 30cal mounts made in 1/2x28?

k31user Joined Apr 2006 Posts 395 EE 0% (0) CA, USA	Posted: 10/4/2018 3:26:36 PM EDT [#33] Quote History Originally Posted By northcoastwizard: Yeah that barrel's an M4 profile, I just set it on for the picture. Were there a lot of 30cal mounts made in 1/2x28? View Quote I have made them when needed, but normally they are 5/8-24. Probably a new machine shop making them. RonA

Postal0311 Had anyone seen a pin? Joined Sep 2004 Posts 8165 EE 100% (286) FL, USA	Posted: 10/15/2018 9:20:32 PM EDT [#34] I was looking at the various mounts and I'm not understanding clearly. Is there a mount that would allow for putting a Model 12 on a 11.5inch light weight barrel? (E.G. Colt 6933)

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Posted: 10/16/2018 11:00:54 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By goloud:

Again, I’m very appreciative of Ron for letting me borrow his meter and for the use of the AEM5s. These are some of the quietest setups available and are truly a pleasure to shoot.

Raw data:

224 V 88gr ELD Match
24” bbl
82 degrees
80% humidity
224 AEM5
B&K 2209 A Weighted

MILSTD Muzzle

128.2
126.5
128.1
127.1
126.5
127.8
128
127.3
127.7
126.8 BHO

EAR

130+
131.2
134.9
135.9
133.6 BHO
127
132.1
134.9
130.5

BCM 18”
223 62gr M855
AEM5

132.6
130.5
130.4
131.1
132.1
131
130.6
130.9
130.4
130.3

EAR

139.4
138.4
138.3
139.9
139.5
139.1
138.8
137.4
139.1
138.9 BHO

M855 in 224V AEM5
18” BCM

MILSTD

130.6
130.7
130.5
131.2
130.6
130.3
130.8
130.6
130.4
131.5

EAR

138.7
137.5
137.2
138.4
137.9
139.7
136.2
137.8
138.9
139.6 BHO

224 V in 223 AEM5
24” bbl
MILSTD

129
126.2
127
127.5
128.1 BHO
128.6
128.6
126.9
128.1
127.4 BHO

EAR

130+
134.1
133
134.4
132 BHO
131.6
130.9
129.9
130.5
131.5 BHO

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I put in an order for the AEM5 last week. After seeing these number I'm extremely excited to get my hands on in. Just ~9 months to go!

-Rob

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Posted: 10/16/2018 2:29:56 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By Postal0311:
I was looking at the various mounts and I'm not understanding clearly.

Is there a mount that would allow for putting a Model 12 on a 11.5inch light weight barrel? (E.G. Colt 6933)

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I got a 733 with 11.5" pencil barrel that I want to be able to run my AEM5 with. From what I understand, that requires minimum of 12.5" barrel if you want to clear the front sight base using the 12th/AEM5.

Maybe one of those no-step collars could be made for the 11.5" that would add an inch of free bore, but I'm not sure..? If so, I'd like one!

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Posted: 10/16/2018 3:34:40 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By LowplainsWindage:

I got a 733 with 11.5" pencil barrel that I want to be able to run my AEM5 with. From what I understand, that requires minimum of 12.5" barrel if you want to clear the front sight base using the 12th/AEM5.

Maybe one of those no-step collars could be made for the 11.5" that would add an inch of free bore, but I'm not sure..? If so, I'd like one!

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Low profile gas block gives enough room for a collar and AEM5.

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Posted: 10/17/2018 12:00:36 AM EDT

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Originally Posted By k31user:

Low profile gas block gives enough room for a collar and AEM5.

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That is something I will keep in mind for a future build. Ideally would just buy another one of your cans that's a better fit for the shorties, just not possible at this time.

I think I have an idea how to make it work on the 11.5" w/FSB using a custom adapter/collar, topped off with the AE flash hider mount instead of the brake. Goal is to be able to take off the suppressor mount and go back to normal config if needed. I'll call soon with some measurements and see what you think about this crazy idea

some pics for reference

Rothperson87 Joined Feb 2017 Posts 221 EE 100% (69) MI, USA	Posted: 10/18/2018 12:54:40 AM EDT [#39] Anybody ever use one the spikes tapered gas blocks before? Was thinking about running one on a mini recce.

pev942 Joined Jun 2017 Posts 69 EE 0% (0) AZ, USA	Posted: 10/24/2018 10:40:14 PM EDT [#40] I went to the Big Sandy and saw a remginton usr with a ops inc cans. It sounded amazing. I asked my dealer to order me a AEM5 for my longe range Ar build. Now I am looking to build a rifle for the m24 can. Does anybody have a source for m24 profile barrels

ImFarmerTed Joined Feb 2014 Posts 2532 EE 0% (0) VA, USA	Posted: 10/28/2018 10:22:06 PM EDT [#41] https://www.ar15.com/forums/Precision-Rifles/Opinions-on-a-suppressor-end-cap-strike-/3-8531/ User had an end cap strike, random bad luck?

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Posted: 10/29/2018 10:24:45 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By pev942:
I went to the Big Sandy and saw a remginton usr with a ops inc cans. It sounded amazing. I asked my dealer to order me a AEM5 for my longe range Ar build. Now I am looking to build a rifle for the m24 can. Does anybody have a source for m24 profile barrels

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Every barrel manufacturer has M24 profile listed in profiles offered.

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Posted: 10/30/2018 8:32:53 PM EDT

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So, I just got the approval for my AEM5 from my dealer!!

I just need to mount the brake and collar on my MK12 Mod 0,1,H.

I contacted Ron and purchased brake and collar sets from him. I believe that I got 1 short and 1 long collar from him. Does it matter which collar goes on what variant? I had ADCO reprofile a barrel for my mod H and that came with a collar so I am assuming I use that collar on that rifle.

RTUtah @jseconomos Joined Dec 2006 Posts 25328 EE 100% (100) NC, USA	Posted: 10/30/2018 9:56:06 PM EDT [#44] Quote History Originally Posted By Rothperson87: Anybody ever use one the spikes tapered gas blocks before? Was thinking about running one on a mini recce. http://i64.tinypic.com/33lgs48.jpg View Quote Looks cool but I hate that it's a Spike's part, lol.
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Posted: 10/30/2018 10:08:41 PM EDT

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Originally Posted By abpMN:
So, I just got the approval for my AEM5 from my dealer!!

I just need to mount the brake and collar on my MK12 Mod 0,1,H.

I contacted Ron and purchased brake and collar sets from him. I believe that I got 1 short and 1 long collar from him. Does it matter which collar goes on what variant? I had ADCO reprofile a barrel for my mod H and that came with a collar so I am assuming I use that collar on that rifle.

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Depends what FSB you have on the Mod 0. Functionally, you want to make sure they are going all the way back to the step down and not stopping before that point.

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Originally Posted By pezboytate:

Depends what FSB you have on the Mod 0. Functionally, you want to make sure they are going all the way back to the step down and not stopping before that point.

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On the mod 0 I have a current production clamp PRI FGSB. Run Badger set screw low profile gas blocks on the mod 1 and h.

dangerdan Haram in the sheets Joined Sep 2005 Posts 23409 EE 100% (57) TX, USA	Posted: 10/31/2018 12:22:12 PM EDT [#47] Attached File Attached File Attached File
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Into_the_Void Strength Determination Merciless Forever Joined Oct 2009 Posts 7509 EE 100% (233) PA, USA	Posted: 11/4/2018 8:54:05 AM EDT [#48] 13" Attached File

Outrider PHD, Clone Deviation Joined Mar 2009 Posts 7942 EE 100% (372) AL, USA	Posted: 11/4/2018 8:56:19 AM EDT [#49] Quote History Originally Posted By SDMF_Rebel: 13" https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/220444/20181103_180333_jpg-727380.JPG View Quote That turned out fantastic!