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Posted: 1/3/2018 7:55:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: blkrmycs]
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WillysJeep
I have the ballistic advantage 18" spr in my mk 12 mod1( rifle buffer and spring) and I would say it is about perfect with the aem5. I think it could get 90% of my spent brass thrown into a 5 gallon bucket setting at 4:30 5:00 and about 5 ft from the ejection port. |
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Posted: 1/3/2018 9:49:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By blkrmycs:
WillysJeep I have the ballistic advantage 18" spr in my mk 12 mod1( rifle buffer and spring) and I would say it is about perfect with the aem5. I think it could get 90% of my spent brass thrown into a 5 gallon bucket setting at 4:30 5:00 and about 5 ft from the ejection port. |
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Posted: 1/14/2018 7:08:07 PM EDT
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Hey, off hand, does anybody know what the diameter of an AEM4 is?
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Posted: 1/14/2018 7:14:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore: I sell those because there is a demand for them. In my experience, ALL the various flash hider mounts have had a negative effect on accuracy compared to the standard brake. It could just be me, but I only use the brakes on my guns. |
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Posted: 1/14/2018 11:19:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Number0neGun: Why would there be accuracy degradation? |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 9:32:35 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Number0neGun:
Hey, off hand, does anybody know what the diameter of an AEM4 is? |
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Posted: 1/15/2018 10:30:26 AM EDT
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Similar to the AK project, has anyone successfully attached an AE30 to an M1A SOCOM?
Smith Enterprises sells a threaded gas block to replace the standard muzzle break. Could a custom extension be made to attach an AE30? 
http://www.smithenterprise.com/products03.02.html |
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Posted: 1/16/2018 9:12:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Ironmaker:
Similar to the AK project, has anyone successfully attached an AE30 to an M1A SOCOM? https://i.imgur.com/n8JOv15.jpg https://i.imgur.com/q2MXFUq.jpg Smith Enterprises sells a threaded gas block to replace the standard muzzle break. Could a custom extension be made to attach an AE30? http://www.smithenterprise.com/imagesprod/gas_plug-composite.lg.jpg http://www.smithenterprise.com/products03.02.html As to your question, I've seen OPS cans on standard length .gov M14s, but I believe a special custom made barrel sleeve was produced due to the fact that it's much more difficult to machine a step on M14 barrels as is done on AR barrels. Are those even available for standard length M1As? I'd have to imagine a shorty M1A/M14 would be even more challenging, but I'll let Ron speak to that. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 1/19/2018 2:48:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 02Overlander: Good to go. http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f160/HDHNTER/17990434_10211720890632953_6533699233182309807_o_zpsrpiaogbs.jpg |
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Posted: 1/22/2018 5:06:13 PM EDT
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Does anyone know what AE/OPS collar is used on these Canadian C series rifles pictured?
https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/The-British-Mk18-the-L119A1/118-722248/?r=-1&page=1&anc=7585793#i7585793 It looks like a non-reflexing mount with a male and female end... |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/22/2018 7:41:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mattyvac:
Does anyone know what AE/OPS collar is used on these Canadian C series rifles pictured? https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/The-British-Mk18-the-L119A1/118-722248/?r=-1&page=1&anc=7585793#i7585793 It looks like a non-reflexing mount with a male and female end... Anyway, I first saw those pics 3 years ago on Larry Vicker's facebook feed: https://www.facebook.com/LarryVickers/posts/10154777856365416 By the way, is Mr. Allen at Shot Show 2018? Any news? |
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Posted: 1/22/2018 8:42:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk: Why do you think it isn't a reflex mount? The guy says it's a 10", but I'm not convinced. Those Canadian SOF guns are often very custom. Could be the 11.6" version. Anyway, I first saw those pics 3 years ago on Larry Vicker's facebook feed: https://www.facebook.com/LarryVickers/posts/10154777856365416 By the way, is Mr. Allen at Shot Show 2018? Any news? I long....LOOOONNGG...for a combo shoulder/brake mount for my AE cans so it doesnt have to reflex OTB but just reflex over the sleeve/shoulder. Kind of like this, but without the barrel going inside it, essentially being an extension of the barrel: https://www.spikestactical.com/products/suppressor-parts-muzzle-devices-silencer-combo-mount |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 1/23/2018 8:29:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mattyvac: I'm going off the premise it is a 10" barrel and there's no reason to think otherwise from the pics... I long....LOOOONNGG...for a combo shoulder/brake mount for my AE cans so it doesnt have to reflex OTB but just reflex over the sleeve/shoulder. Kind of like this, but without the barrel going inside it, essentially being an extension of the barrel: https://www.spikestactical.com/products/suppressor-parts-muzzle-devices-silencer-combo-mount Don't get me wrong, I love my Ops can, but I also own other cans too. The right tool for the right job and all that. The Ops/Allen cans give you the advantage of less overall length, they tension the barrel for better harmonics, and give you low back pressure. If you aren't using them as intended, you are giving up two out of the three advantages. |
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Posted: 1/23/2018 10:27:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk: But why? If you aren't reflexing back over the barrel, you might as well use a normal muzzle mount can. One that's actually optimized for muzzle mounting performance. You'll also have QD or thread-on options. Help me understand. Don't get me wrong, I love my Ops can, but I also own other cans too. The right tool for the right job and all that. The Ops/Allen cans give you the advantage of less overall length, they tension the barrel for better harmonics, and give you low back pressure. If you aren't using them as intended, you are giving up two out of the three advantages. It's not the rule but an exception and the ability to do so would be nice. You would still be 'reflexing' the can over the mount so you are not losing that or the backpressure point so those are moot. An all in one mount would still provide those benefits, just not 'over' the barrel. 1/2-28 threads should still provide enough tension and strength for cans under the AEM5 size for rigidity as well on the end of the barrel. The only negative is you lose the OAL benefit of a reflexing can. |
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Posted: 1/23/2018 10:35:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mattyvac: Sometimes you want to use the suppressor you've already purchased (forms and wait times suck, theyre expensive, you can't just buy a fitting suppressor for every setup you have, etc) like an AE/OPS on a barrel that doesnt have any room to reflex such as AK's, 10.3 barrels, 10.5 barrels, even 11.5 or 12.5 barrels with certain rail configurations. It's not the rule but an exception and the ability to do so would be nice. You would still be 'reflexing' the can over the mount so you are not losing that or the backpressure point so those are moot. An all in one mount would still provide those benefits, just not 'over' the barrel. 1/2-28 threads should still provide enough tension and strength for cans under the AEM5 size for rigidity as well on the end of the barrel. The only negative is you lose the OAL benefit of a reflexing can. |
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Posted: 1/23/2018 1:29:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk: But why? If you aren't reflexing back over the barrel, you might as well use a normal muzzle mount can. One that's actually optimized for muzzle mounting performance. You'll also have QD or thread-on options. Help me understand. Don't get me wrong, I love my Ops can, but I also own other cans too. The right tool for the right job and all that. The Ops/Allen cans give you the advantage of less overall length, they tension the barrel for better harmonics, and give you low back pressure. If you aren't using them as intended, you are giving up two out of the three advantages. |
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Posted: 1/23/2018 1:51:08 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Engel12626]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: A friend send me a picture from Facebook (I do not have) where Ron is working with Adco on a AEM5 setup for 11.5 and AEM 2,3,4 on a 10.5. 
Found this |
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Posted: 1/23/2018 3:18:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryYep. That’s it. I’ve got a 11.5 that I’d be curious to try.
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Posted: 1/24/2018 12:17:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider: Yep. That’s it. I’ve got a 11.5 that I’d be curious to try. Link: https://www.spikestactical.com/products/parts-upper-parts-tapered-micro-suppressor?variant=32521181452 |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 2/2/2018 7:10:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: SpyHawk]
[#20]
Anybody know what the minimum barrel length my old Ops Inc 15th model is certified for? It doesn't say on the website (AEM3 web page anyway).
For some reason I've gotten the hankering to build an ultra short PDW based on a pistol length gas system. Edit: I'm wondering about a 7.5" with a pistol length gas system. Or 9". |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 2/2/2018 7:19:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 99superduty]
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Posted: 2/2/2018 8:01:08 PM EDT
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@k31user
What about 224 Valkyrie out an 18" barrel? 
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CA, USA
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Posted: 2/2/2018 8:10:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Whhood:
@k31user What about 224 Valkyrie out an 18" barrel? |
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Posted: 2/3/2018 2:27:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DHwreckage: would love some specs for this build, i want one! 
12.5" Ballistic Advantage, Collar Adapter Extender/AEMB, Ops Inc 15th (pictured) but run an AEM2 on it most of the time, PRI GasBuster URX II 10.75" Mid-Length w/ integrated flip-up front BUIS / KAC 300m rear SOLGW ZF lower / Fostech Echo |
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Posted: 2/4/2018 11:57:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk:
Anybody know what the minimum barrel length my old Ops Inc 15th model is certified for? It doesn't say on the website (AEM3 web page anyway). For some reason I've gotten the hankering to build an ultra short PDW based on a pistol length gas system. Edit: I'm wondering about a 7.5" with a pistol length gas system. Or 9". Since OPS INC is no longer a company I wouldnt worry about it anyway...no warranty and 5.56 under 7.5" is not really a thing. Here's a video of steve @ ADCO firing a full auto 7.5" with an ops inc M4-S  OPS INC M4-S Introduction |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 2/5/2018 7:54:25 AM EDT
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Sweet video.
I spoke to Mr. Allen. He confirmed 7.5 but only with his brake. No flash hiders. |
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Posted: 2/5/2018 10:09:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user:
Up to .220 Swift is fine at 18". Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By k31user:
Originally Posted By Whhood:
@k31user What about 224 Valkyrie out an 18" barrel? |
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CA, USA
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Posted: 2/5/2018 12:25:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mattyvac:
Does anyone know what AE/OPS collar is used on these Canadian C series rifles pictured? https://www.ar15.com/forums/ar-15/The-British-Mk18-the-L119A1/118-722248/?r=-1&page=1&anc=7585793#i7585793 It looks like a non-reflexing mount with a male and female end... |
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Posted: 2/5/2018 1:04:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk:
Sweet video. I spoke to Mr. Allen. He confirmed 7.5 but only with his brake. No flash hiders. For a 'stand civilian' firing schedule of a few hundreds rounds a year on semi auto, the vortex mount or the special A1 mount that ADCO has Ron make will work just fine and won't do any noticeable damage to the first baffle. |
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Posted: 2/17/2018 10:15:50 AM EDT
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I am looking to build a 7.5" set up using a BA "modern" barrel. It has the front step but it measures .735 in diameter and that step is .600 in length before it bumps up to .750 gas block area, which is 1.870 in length. The other wrinkle is that I want to use a Superlative Arms adjustable piston system so I need a little bit more room in front of the gas block for the adjustment screws to opened and closed. (I don't have the piston parts yet so I can't give exact measurements yet)
I am thinking that I will probably need one of the two barrel extension adapters that AE makes to add a little length? Which one to go with is one of my questions. Anyone try this and have some pictures to share? I am leaning towards the one that requires the muzzle brake but not sure yet. Q: Do I need to pin the extension? Q: Will the barrel adapters work/ fit with that .735 diameter first step or instead of the standard .725 if a mil profile or does the inner diameter of the extension bottom out on the .750 gas block bearing surface instead? If the latter, then I should be good to go. I have noticed a few guys in here are saying that the collars are working on BA barrels but they are not saying which BA barrels they have. Again, I have the "Modern" profile barrel which looks a lot like a Mil profile on the business end of it but the front step is .010 wider. I am thinking about an AEM2 maybe. Not sure yet but not an AEM5. Thanks for info in advance. |
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Posted: 2/17/2018 12:25:27 PM EDT
[#31]
I'm going to try to fix the links this weekend (screw you, Photobucket).
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Posted: 2/17/2018 12:45:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
I'm going to try to fix the links this weekend (screw you, Photobucket).
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Posted: 2/17/2018 4:07:39 PM EDT
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Anyone know how many M4-S cans were made?
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CA, USA
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Posted: 2/17/2018 5:22:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Combat_Jack:
Anyone know how many M4-S cans were made? |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 10:20:53 PM EDT
[#35]
Ok, I fixed a lot of the links and pictures in the OP. Took me a lot longer than I thought to track down the pictures, since Photobucket dicked me so hard (when you click on the links to your OWN photobucket, it makes the images still impossible to read, so you have to match the file name with what is in your collection to figure out which picture it was).
Still not quite done yet (made it through about 2/3s of the OP, but will try again throughout the week and next weekend. |
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Posted: 2/18/2018 10:34:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Ok, I fixed a lot of the links and pictures in the OP. Took me a lot longer than I thought to track down the pictures, since Photobucket dicked me so hard (when you click on the links to your OWN photobucket, it makes the images still impossible to read, so you have to match the file name with what is in your collection to figure out which picture it was). Still not quite done yet (made it through about 2/3s of the OP, but will try again throughout the week and next weekend. 
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Posted: 2/18/2018 11:33:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Ok, I fixed a lot of the links and pictures in the OP. Took me a lot longer than I thought to track down the pictures, since Photobucket dicked me so hard (when you click on the links to your OWN photobucket, it makes the images still impossible to read, so you have to match the file name with what is in your collection to figure out which picture it was). Still not quite done yet (made it through about 2/3s of the OP, but will try again throughout the week and next weekend. |
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Posted: 2/26/2018 12:27:52 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BM1455:
I am looking to build a 7.5" set up using a BA "modern" barrel. It has the front step but it measures .735 in diameter and that step is .600 in length before it bumps up to .750 gas block area, which is 1.870 in length. The other wrinkle is that I want to use a Superlative Arms adjustable piston system so I need a little bit more room in front of the gas block for the adjustment screws to opened and closed. (I don't have the piston parts yet so I can't give exact measurements yet) I am thinking that I will probably need one of the two barrel extension adapters that AE makes to add a little length? Which one to go with is one of my questions. Anyone try this and have some pictures to share? I am leaning towards the one that requires the muzzle brake but not sure yet. Q: Do I need to pin the extension? Q: Will the barrel adapters work/ fit with that .735 diameter first step or instead of the standard .725 if a mil profile or does the inner diameter of the extension bottom out on the .750 gas block bearing surface instead? If the latter, then I should be good to go. I have noticed a few guys in here are saying that the collars are working on BA barrels but they are not saying which BA barrels they have. Again, I have the "Modern" profile barrel which looks a lot like a Mil profile on the business end of it but the front step is .010 wider. I am thinking about an AEM2 maybe. Not sure yet but not an AEM5. Thanks for info in advance. |
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Posted: 2/26/2018 12:54:41 PM EDT
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Hi All,
I had a 20" Colt HBAR barrel that grouped really well, so I built a Mk12ish looking clone out of it using some Allen Engineering bits. These are damn near impossible to get in Kanadastan by the way. 
Cans are prohib where I am, but I managed to find a replica can I thrown on there for photos only: 
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Posted: 2/26/2018 1:41:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mattyvac:
For AEM2 spacing on a 7.5"/10.5" barrel all you need is the shouldered combo gas block from spike's. No collars needed Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mattyvac:
Originally Posted By BM1455:
I am looking to build a 7.5" set up using a BA "modern" barrel. It has the front step but it measures .735 in diameter and that step is .600 in length before it bumps up to .750 gas block area, which is 1.870 in length. The other wrinkle is that I want to use a Superlative Arms adjustable piston system so I need a little bit more room in front of the gas block for the adjustment screws to opened and closed. (I don't have the piston parts yet so I can't give exact measurements yet) I am thinking that I will probably need one of the two barrel extension adapters that AE makes to add a little length? Which one to go with is one of my questions. Anyone try this and have some pictures to share? I am leaning towards the one that requires the muzzle brake but not sure yet. Q: Do I need to pin the extension? Q: Will the barrel adapters work/ fit with that .735 diameter first step or instead of the standard .725 if a mil profile or does the inner diameter of the extension bottom out on the .750 gas block bearing surface instead? If the latter, then I should be good to go. I have noticed a few guys in here are saying that the collars are working on BA barrels but they are not saying which BA barrels they have. Again, I have the "Modern" profile barrel which looks a lot like a Mil profile on the business end of it but the front step is .010 wider. I am thinking about an AEM2 maybe. Not sure yet but not an AEM5. Thanks for info in advance. |
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Posted: 2/26/2018 3:17:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BM1455: I already have the SA piston set up so I think I will need the caller adapter extender from AE. The only thing is that maybe I can get him to make me one that doesn't go quite as deep and thus would not go quite so far back towards the gas block part of the barrel? For barrels without shoulders you can use the Spike's one-piece combo mount, as well. |
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Posted: 2/26/2018 11:48:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Accuser:
Man, i haven't visited this thread in a long time but I'll try to post a new family pic in the next couple of days as my original is missing the M4M... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Accuser:
Originally Posted By BurtSaun1049:
Ok, I fixed a lot of the links and pictures in the OP. Took me a lot longer than I thought to track down the pictures, since Photobucket dicked me so hard (when you click on the links to your OWN photobucket, it makes the images still impossible to read, so you have to match the file name with what is in your collection to figure out which picture it was). Still not quite done yet (made it through about 2/3s of the OP, but will try again throughout the week and next weekend. Still have some more work to do to fix some links, but I'm pretty close. |
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Posted: 2/27/2018 6:21:06 PM EDT
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Been a long time since I've posted but here is a couple of 2018 pics. All are 223 caliber. I believe the only one I'm missing is the Model 3rd.
 Attached FileTop picture from right to left: M4S, M4M, Model 14th, 15th, 16th and 12th I use all of them except the 12th model on a 10.5" and a 16" LMT MRP barrel. I just pick whichever I feel like using that day...
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Posted: 2/28/2018 12:16:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Accuser:
Been a long time since I've posted but here is a couple of 2018 pics. All are 223 caliber. I believe the only one I'm missing is the Model 3rd. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/37569/ops-466421.JPG Top picture from right to left: M4S, M4M, Model 14th, 15th, 16th and 12th I use all of them except the 12th model on a 10.5" and a 16" LMT MRP barrel. I just pick whichever I feel like using that day...
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/37569/ops-466425.JPG |
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Posted: 2/28/2018 2:28:02 PM EDT
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So who will be the first to put one on a 224 valkyrie build for precision?
It's the first new boutique hipster caliber to come out that's compatible with our cans.. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 3/1/2018 6:04:52 PM EDT
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hey guys, since this is the ops inc/allen engineering thread i thought you guys would have the most experience and could answer my question. i am thinking about picking up a ae30 or aem5-30 for my Tikka, im curious if any one has an opinion on which one i should go with if i decide to go with an AE suppressor. is the aem5-30 longer then the ae30 to just to accommodate the brake, do they both have the same amount of baffles? the rifle will mainly be used for PRS and hunting and will be on an 18". anyone have any opinions on the ae30 vs the aem5-30 for a bolt action rifle?
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Posted: 3/1/2018 10:28:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mattyvac:
So who will be the first to put one on a 224 valkyrie build for precision? It's the first new boutique hipster caliber to come out that's compatible with our cans.. Jason |
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Posted: 3/1/2018 10:51:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DHwreckage:
hey guys, since this is the ops inc/allen engineering thread i thought you guys would have the most experience and could answer my question. i am thinking about picking up a ae30 or aem5-30 for my Tikka, im curious if any one has an opinion on which one i should go with if i decide to go with an AE suppressor. is the aem5-30 longer then the ae30 to just to accommodate the brake, do they both have the same amount of baffles? the rifle will mainly be used for PRS and hunting and will be on an 18". anyone have any opinions on the ae30 vs the aem5-30 for a bolt action rifle? Really the issue is if you have another suppressor host - if you do, then the AEM5-30 would be a slightly better option since when you do shoot unsuppressed you will have a muzzle brake. If you don't ever plan on shooting unsuppressed, then the AE30 would do just the same. Some may say that the brake will serve as a sacrificial first baffle. While it does this, on a bolt gun, it really serves no additional advantage. |
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Posted: 3/10/2018 1:36:54 AM EDT
[#49]
Does anyone have a collar adapter extender they could let go of? I have a 10.5” with fsb and it would be the perfect finishing touch if I could mount my aem 2 on it. ron no longer makes the extender and adco doesn’t have any. Thanks
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Posted: 3/10/2018 2:21:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AR_DIESEL:
Does anyone have a collar adapter extender they could let go of? I have a 10.5” with fsb and it would be the perfect finishing touch if I could mount my aem 2 on it. ron no longer makes the extender and adco doesn’t have any. Thanks |
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