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Posted: 9/24/2017 11:03:57 AM EDT
[#1]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HARMS4X:
AEM 5 meets 5.45x39 on a AK74 pattern. Finally got around to this project. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187307/0227D313-C313-4B50-929E-AFC0971D91B8-315028.JPG |
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Posted: 9/24/2017 11:43:52 AM EDT
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HARMS4X:
AEM 5 meets 5.45x39 on a AK74 pattern. Finally got around to this project. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187307/0227D313-C313-4B50-929E-AFC0971D91B8-315028.JPG Can't wait to see the finished product |
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Posted: 9/24/2017 1:45:16 PM EDT
[Last Edit: HARMS4X]
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate:
Neat! 16“ barrel? 16.5 when I silver solder the brake |
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Posted: 9/24/2017 9:03:34 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/24/2017 9:41:41 PM EDT
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HARMS4X:
This thing sounds awesome. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187307/IMG_3189-316452.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187307/IMG_3164-316453.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187307/IMG_3174-316454.JPG |
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Posted: 9/25/2017 7:23:57 AM EDT
[#6]
Does anyone know if I can use the URX4 13" with a 16" barrel and still have enough room to mount the Allen Engineering brake and collar, and have enough space to mount the AEM5?
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Posted: 9/25/2017 8:36:59 AM EDT
[#7]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By A_Friendly_Manatee:
I've been wanting to do this with a 5.56 AK. Did you profile that barrel from a blank? |
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Posted: 9/25/2017 2:52:22 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HARMS4X:
Nope I used a standard 74 barrel and made a custome collar Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HARMS4X:
Originally Posted By A_Friendly_Manatee:
I've been wanting to do this with a 5.56 AK. Did you profile that barrel from a blank? |
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Posted: 9/25/2017 4:07:33 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By A_Friendly_Manatee:
Does the back of the collar index off of the gas block/FSB, or does the barrel have a shoulder for the collar like most Ops/AE profile barrels? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By A_Friendly_Manatee:
Originally Posted By HARMS4X:
Originally Posted By A_Friendly_Manatee:
I've been wanting to do this with a 5.56 AK. Did you profile that barrel from a blank? |
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Posted: 9/25/2017 4:33:50 PM EDT
[#10]
7n6 through it? If so, how do you plan on cleaning the can? That is if you do clean it.
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Posted: 9/25/2017 5:16:40 PM EDT
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There is so much commercial 5.45 out there that it's silly to run 7n6 but if I did I would take the can and run cold water through it, then MEK or Alcohol and throw it in the oven to bake off whats left.
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Posted: 9/25/2017 5:35:33 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HARMS4X:
Its press fit. .002 press fit. I did all the collar work between centers to verify concentrically to the bore line. We put 120 rounds down range and it performed marvelous. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HARMS4X:
Originally Posted By A_Friendly_Manatee:
Originally Posted By HARMS4X:
Originally Posted By A_Friendly_Manatee:
I've been wanting to do this with a 5.56 AK. Did you profile that barrel from a blank? |
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Posted: 9/26/2017 7:06:23 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ehudbengera:
Does anyone know if I can use the URX4 13" with a 16" barrel and still have enough room to mount the Allen Engineering brake and collar, and have enough space to mount the AEM5? |
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Posted: 9/28/2017 6:42:35 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate:
If the URX 13" is actually 13" and not more, it will fit. The Geissele 13" rail with a 16.125" barrel has plenty of room. |
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Posted: 9/28/2017 10:11:18 PM EDT
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There is a target at the base of the first spur at 220 yards (the white dot), at the base of the second spur at 390 yards, and another at 710 yards at the third spur in the patch of dirt that can be seen. I can hit the 220 and 390 yard targets consistently but the 710 yard is a challenge, if I hit it 50% of the time I’m happy. 
KAC lower with their match trigger. Ops. Inc. 12th model WOA 18” spr barrel. Nightforce 2.5x10 DD rail 77gr. Handloads |
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Posted: 10/3/2017 12:04:47 PM EDT
[#16]
How hard is it to install the collar and mount for an AEM5 on a profiled barrel like the 18” SPR one BA sells?
I have installed muzzle devices properly before but never a two piece mounting system. Could not find many videos online and only a few install overviews online. Thanks |
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Posted: 10/3/2017 2:04:47 PM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WillysJeep:
How hard is it to install the collar and mount for an AEM5 on a profiled barrel like the 18” SPR one BA sells? I have installed muzzle devices properly before but never a two piece mounting system. Could not find many videos online and only a few install overviews online. Thanks 2. Once fully seated, the back end of the collar should not be touching the gas block. 3. If 1. And 2. check out, then remove collar, degrease thoroughly, and place a drop of 242 or 243 loctite (blue) on the step and spread around with the collar and seat it fully against the step. 4. Time the set screw hole to wherever you want and "lightly" screw in the set screw ("lightly" as in barely touching the barrel with the short arm of an Allen wrench - any tighter you risk creating a burr on the barrel itself) Note: set screw is really just to make sure the collar stays in position until loctite sets up in about 24 hours. 5. Place crush washer and muzzle brake and hand tighten on threaded muzzle - note where the narrow spline ends up. Use shims between crush washer and muzzle break to time the narrow spline to approximately 10-11 o'clock to TDC. (This provides approximately 20-30 ft-lbs torque on the muzzle brake.) 6. Remove muzzle brake and crush washer +/- shims and degrease thoroughly the threads on barrel and inside muzzle device. You will have leas than 5 minutes working time after steps 7-8. - plan accordingly. 7. Place crush washer +/- shims and place 1-2 drops of 290 loctite (green) on the threads and hand tighten the muzzle brake. 8. Use a Crescent wrench and close it down on thicker spline on the bottom and gently snug up and time the upper narrow spline to 12 o'clock TDC. 9. Wait 24 hours for the loctite to fully cure for both collar and muzzle device. 10. If you make a mistake with timing, use a torch to gently heat up until you start to smoke slightly or you start smelling a "sweet"-like smell of the loctite. You can remove the muzzle brake with a Crescent wrench and the collar with a thick glove. Don't burn yourself. Then clean off the old loctite and start again from the beginning. |
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Posted: 10/3/2017 2:20:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HARMS4X:
This thing sounds awesome. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187307/IMG_3189-316452.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187307/IMG_3164-316453.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/187307/IMG_3174-316454.JPG |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 5:37:02 AM EDT
[#19]
I just got my AEM 5 yesterday. It's my first suppressor purchase. Unbelievable sound reduction! Ron Allen is a genius and this can is a work of art! I can't wait to coyote hunt with this thing!
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Posted: 10/4/2017 9:49:58 AM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BMPRacing:
I just got my AEM 5 yesterday. It's my first suppressor purchase. Unbelievable sound reduction! Ron Allen is a genius and this can is a work of art! I can't wait to coyote hunt with this thing! Brad |
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Posted: 10/4/2017 1:21:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: BMPRacing]
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WillysJeep:
Nice. What’s your host? Brad BEFORE: 
RTUtah Approved: 
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Posted: 10/4/2017 1:58:04 PM EDT
[#22]
Has Ron made any M4S-type cans since he started AE? Does he ever do anything custom?
I would love to buy something like an M4S that doesn't reflex any further than the barrel shoulder. Would make a great little SBR can or for something like a PS90 SBR, which is growing in popularity. |
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Posted: 10/6/2017 6:57:14 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/6/2017 11:25:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conqueror:
Has Ron made any M4S-type cans since he started AE? Does he ever do anything custom? I would love to buy something like an M4S that doesn't reflex any further than the barrel shoulder. Would make a great little SBR can or for something like a PS90 SBR, which is growing in popularity. One of the biggest benefits of AE suppressors is they do reflex over the barrel. Not only does it increase the volume of the first chamber but a correctly fitting collar will help maintain proper alignment of the suppressor to a concentrically threaded barrel. This also adds strength to the barrel/muzzle device/suppressor assembly should the rifle be inadvertently dropped on muzzle end. |
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Posted: 10/11/2017 9:02:48 AM EDT
[#25]
Has there been any type of blast shield like what Surefire, SilencerCo and AAC make?
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Posted: 10/11/2017 2:46:21 PM EDT
[#26]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BMPRacing:
I just got my AEM 5 yesterday. It's my first suppressor purchase. Unbelievable sound reduction! Ron Allen is a genius and this can is a work of art! I can't wait to coyote hunt with this thing! Brad RonA |
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Posted: 10/11/2017 3:49:41 PM EDT
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I am doing a 5.56 AK rebarrel to accomodate an AEM4, should have it back from the AK smith in a few weeks but will be a cool project and I can finally stop using my Form 1 can!
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Posted: 10/12/2017 2:11:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AGR1279:
Has there been any type of blast shield like what Surefire, SilencerCo and AAC make? Dan H.V.S. BLAST SHIELD |
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Posted: 10/12/2017 6:56:15 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk:
Spikes makes one that they claim is compatible with Ops Inc brakes. H.V.S. BLAST SHIELD Dan |
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Posted: 10/13/2017 5:28:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MDStroup]
[#30]
@k31user
I have a question. I was planning a forum 1 reflexive suppressor build specifically for my AR15 in 6.5 grendel around a griffin armament over the barrel mount muzzle brake. That plan may have fallen thru. I would love to be able to use the AEM5 because of the muzzle brake. But My AR15 is chambered in 6.5 grendel. So i am going to have to use the AE30. Both wonderful suppressors, i just wanted to be able to use the muzzle brake. Do you have any plans for a AEM30 any time soon? Also, what collar would i use for the AM30 on my grendel as my barrel has 5/8x24 threads and is straight 0.720 after the gas block? |
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Posted: 10/13/2017 5:40:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bigbore]
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MDStroup:
@k31user I have a question. I was planning a forum 1 reflexive suppressor build specifically for my AR15 in 6.5 grendel around a griffin armament over the barrel mount muzzle brake. That plan may have fallen thru. I would love to be able to use the AEM5 because of the muzzle brake. But My AR15 is chambered in 6.5 grendel. So i am going to have to use the AE30. Both wonderful suppressors, i just wanted to be able to use the muzzle brake. Do you have any plans for a AEM30 any time soon? Also, what collar would i use for the AM30 on my grendel as my barrel has 5/8x24 threads and is straight 0.720 after the gas block? |
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Posted: 10/13/2017 10:54:14 PM EDT
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Im looking for a can to use on my Colt Commando 11.5" barrel. I cant seem to find what the difference between the AE22, AEM2, AEM3, or AEM4 cans are, beside the weight and length variances. Can someone give me a recommendation on what model to use? AE22 id say is out mainly because on the length. Im leaning on maybe the AEM3 simply because it seem to fall right between 2 and 4. I want to maintain a short overall length but not sacrifice on sound reduction. thoughts?
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Posted: 10/14/2017 3:00:08 AM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iluvmy86:
Im looking for a can to use on my Colt Commando 11.5" barrel. I cant seem to find what the difference between the AE22, AEM2, AEM3, or AEM4 cans are, beside the weight and length variances. Can someone give me a recommendation on what model to use? AE22 id say is out mainly because on the length. Im leaning on maybe the AEM3 simply because it seem to fall right between 2 and 4. I want to maintain a short overall length but not sacrifice on sound reduction. thoughts? Really the difference between an AEM5, AE22, and AEM4 are minimal. They all use the same baffle stack and really differ in how they attach to a barrel. The AEM5 and AE22 share thr same need for the barrel step to be at 2.4" behind the muzzle. The AEM5 requires the muzzle brake or flash hider (the muzzle brake will spare your first baffle and is recommended). The AE22 will direct thread onto a 5/8"x24 - an adapter is required to make your 1/2"x28 thread barrel to 5/8"x24 and Ron makes these. However, neither one of these suppressors will work well with your 11.5" barrel with FSB. The AEM4 and AEM3 are really your best options, with me being partial to the AEM4 and I run this on 12.5" barrel with FSB as I find this gives the best sound suppression with the muzzle brake. It is quieter than an AEM3 by a good margin, but I will admit the AEM3 is a bit handier, especially on a 14.5" barrel. There is a collar fitting that allows for the AEM4, AEM3, and AEM2 to mount on an 11.5" barrel as all 3 share the same lockup dimensions - you may have to talk Ron into making this for you. And as for an AEM2, no personal experience, but I've been told by Ron time and time again that the shortest that he would recommend is an AEM3 because any shorter than that really offers no valuable level of sound suppression. Not only that you will still get a fireball of some level rom your 11.5" barrel will be interesting to say the least. |
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Posted: 10/14/2017 5:48:57 AM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAR-SPR:
In order of level of suppression, AEM5>AE22>AEM4>>AEM3>>>AEM2. Really the difference between an AEM5, AE22, and AEM4 are minimal. They all use the same baffle stack and really differ in how they attach to a barrel. The AEM5 and AE22 share thr same need for the barrel step to be at 2.4" behind the muzzle. The AEM5 requires the muzzle brake or flash hider (the muzzle brake will spare your first baffle and is recommended). The AE22 will direct thread onto a 5/8"x24 - an adapter is required to make your 1/2"x28 thread barrel to 5/8"x24 and Ron makes these. However, neither one of these suppressors will work well with your 11.5" barrel with FSB. The AEM4 and AEM3 are really your best options, with me being partial to the AEM4 and I run this on 12.5" barrel with FSB as I find this gives the best sound suppression with the muzzle brake. It is quieter than an AEM3 by a good margin, but I will admit the AEM3 is a bit handier, especially on a 14.5" barrel. There is a collar fitting that allows for the AEM4, AEM3, and AEM2 to mount on an 11.5" barrel as all 3 share the same lockup dimensions - you may have to talk Ron into making this for you. And as for an AEM2, no personal experience, but I've been told by Ron time and time again that the shortest that he would recommend is an AEM3 because any shorter than that really offers no valuable level of sound suppression. Not only that you will still get a fireball of some level rom your 11.5" barrel will be interesting to say the least. 
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Posted: 10/22/2017 9:03:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Deadsquiggles]
[#35]
I believe I saw somewhere, maybe in the first couple pages in this thread, that the Spike’s Tactical LRS one piece mount will work for one of the AE suppressors, maybe it was the AEM4, not a 100% sure.
I was curious if this is actually true. I’m pretty much dead set on a reflex style suppressor and I’d love to be able to put an AE suppressor on my SPR inspired 18” Stealth. I really don’t need to get into the clone game but there’s no other suppressor is I’d rather put on it. |
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Posted: 10/24/2017 2:25:06 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Deadsquiggles:
I believe I saw somewhere, maybe in the first couple pages in this thread, that the Spike’s Tactical LRS one piece mount will work for one of the AE suppressors, maybe it was the AEM4, not a 100% sure. I was curious if this is actually true. I’m pretty much dead set on a reflex style suppressor and I’d love to be able to put an AE suppressor on my SPR inspired 18” Stealth. I really don’t need to get into the clone game but there’s no other suppressor is I’d rather put on it. |
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Posted: 10/24/2017 2:25:40 PM EDT
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Posted: 10/26/2017 2:30:30 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Mattyvac:
In other news, my AK is happening 
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/226579/PA140028-342769.JPG 
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Posted: 10/26/2017 2:44:36 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistorySuper slick.
I only own the AEM5 out of the family but I must say it's hands down my favorite can among my collection which includes some of the "latest and greatest" QD cans. |
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Posted: 10/26/2017 3:54:01 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryThat's neat
Not some you see every day |
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Posted: 10/26/2017 3:58:17 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bigbore:
I have AE30s and AEM5s .30 in stock. Your barrel will require a custom contour/collar for either one. |
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Posted: 10/26/2017 9:51:57 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmac7979:
What mount is used for the AEM5 30? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmac7979:
Originally Posted By bigbore:
I have AE30s and AEM5s .30 in stock. Your barrel will require a custom contour/collar for either one. |
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Posted: 10/27/2017 8:56:09 PM EDT
[#43]
Does anyone use an AE30 on a 5.56? I have a 16" set up for the AEM5 but now I am thinking about getting the AE30 instead so that I can also use it on the .300 blackout or 6.5 grendel I plan on building next.
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Posted: 11/8/2017 9:11:16 PM EDT
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 Attached FileSo does anyone know if, when used with a 10.5" barrel, this thing is in the correct position to be used with the AEM5 or the AEM2/3/4? |
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Posted: 11/8/2017 9:48:47 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Outrider]
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ehudbengera:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/441788/Screenshot_20171108-200808-357271.JPG So does anyone know if, when used with a 10.5" barrel, this thing is in the correct position to be used with the AEM5 or the AEM2/3/4? Any barrel length restrictions? ETA: I’m going to buy one for science and play around. |
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Posted: 11/8/2017 11:46:14 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider:
This has my attention. I’d love to see how short you could go with an AEM5. Any barrel length restrictions? ETA: I’m going to buy one for science and play around. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider:
Originally Posted By ehudbengera:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/441788/Screenshot_20171108-200808-357271.JPG So does anyone know if, when used with a 10.5" barrel, this thing is in the correct position to be used with the AEM5 or the AEM2/3/4? Any barrel length restrictions? ETA: I’m going to buy one for science and play around. I'm assuming the 10.5" barrel would be with carbine gas and the 7.5" with pistol. If it is spaced for the AEM5 you could also buy the AE30 and use it on .300blk or 6.5G SBRs. . . I'm going to buy an AEM5 for my Recce that is already set up for it (I built it around the 16" BA barrel that is contoured for it), and I think a 10.5" 5.56 with an AEM5 hanging off the front of it would be fucking awesome. |
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Posted: 11/9/2017 12:07:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pezboytate]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ehudbengera:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/441788/Screenshot_20171108-200808-357271.JPG So does anyone know if, when used with a 10.5" barrel, this thing is in the correct position to be used with the AEM5 or the AEM2/3/4? |
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Posted: 11/9/2017 12:55:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Outrider]
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pezboytate:
I don't think it will work with the AEM5 or AEM2/3/4 on a 7.5" pistol or 10.5" carbine barrel. Looking at my measurements, the Spike's mount seems to be 5/8" shorter than the AEM5 and 3/8" shorter than the AEM2/3/4. It may work on an 8.125" pistol, 11.125" carbine, 13.125" mid length, or 16.5" rifle barrel with the AEM5 or a 7.875" pistol, 10.875" carbine, 12.875" mid length, or 16.25" rifle barrel with the AEM2/3/4. My favorite 5.56 can I own is my AEM5 so figuring out how short I can go is something I look forward to. |
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Posted: 11/9/2017 2:17:06 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider:
I figured there has to be something in between a 12.5 and 10.5 (for carbine gas) that will work. I've got the gas block and Spike's own compatible muzzle brake (nice price for those not caring about clone correct) on the way. I've got a spare 10.3" barrel that I'll mock up with measurements to see what we can pinpoint. My favorite 5.56 can I own is my AEM5 so figuring out how short I can go is something I look forward to. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Outrider:
Originally Posted By pezboytate:
I don't think it will work with the AEM5 or AEM2/3/4 on a 7.5" pistol or 10.5" carbine barrel. Looking at my measurements, the Spike's mount seems to be 5/8" shorter than the AEM5 and 3/8" shorter than the AEM2/3/4. It may work on an 8.125" pistol, 11.125" carbine, 13.125" mid length, or 16.5" rifle barrel with the AEM5 or a 7.875" pistol, 10.875" carbine, 12.875" mid length, or 16.25" rifle barrel with the AEM2/3/4. My favorite 5.56 can I own is my AEM5 so figuring out how short I can go is something I look forward to. |
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Posted: 11/9/2017 6:04:25 PM EDT
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AE30 on my M24A2
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