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Posted: 12/14/2001 10:30:10 AM EDT
Who currently manufactures LEGAL bullpup shotguns? Is there a drop-in kit for an 870 express?
Link Posted: 12/14/2001 10:47:50 AM EDT
Muzzelite used to make a bullpup stock for the 870 but don't think they do anymore.

If you can wait a few month's you can get a Neostead, bullpup shotgun, pump action, dual mag tubes, thirteen round capacity!
Link Posted: 12/14/2001 11:17:03 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Armed_Scientist:
Muzzelite used to make a bullpup stock for the 870 but don't think they do anymore.

If you can wait a few month's you can get a Neostead, bullpup shotgun, pump action, dual mag tubes, thirteen round capacity!



is that a south african or south american made shotgun I cant remember but I saw an article on one about5-6 yrs ago and wanted it..it had two tubes over the barrel and a switch so you choos e wich tube great for law-enforcement/home protection...one tube slugs other tube buck...I wouldnt mix buck in one tube and less than leathal in the other because if you knocked the switch or picked the wrong one youd be screwed...but rubber in one tube cs in the other would be neat...great idea 6+6+1 sweet.

if this become available in the states it will be my next purchased....
Link Posted: 12/14/2001 12:35:01 PM EDT
I think Muzzelite is only into making Bullpups for the 10/22 and mini-14 now-a-days
Link Posted: 12/14/2001 12:39:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Armed_Scientist:
Muzzelite used to make a bullpup stock for the 870 but don't think they do anymore.

If you can wait a few month's you can get a Neostead, bullpup shotgun, pump action, dual mag tubes, thirteen round capacity!



Ummm haven't you heard of that law they passed in '94???? If the neostead comes here, it will have one mag tube, which will be limited to 5 rounds. But it will probably be declared a shotgun with no sporting use, and be banned.
Link Posted: 12/14/2001 1:38:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By gunman0:

Originally Posted By Armed_Scientist:
Muzzelite used to make a bullpup stock for the 870 but don't think they do anymore.

If you can wait a few month's you can get a Neostead, bullpup shotgun, pump action, dual mag tubes, thirteen round capacity!



Ummm haven't you heard of that law they passed in '94???? If the neostead comes here, it will have one mag tube, which will be limited to 5 rounds. But it will probably be declared a shotgun with no sporting use, and be banned.



but I thought it was pump not semi auto??? am i wrong
Link Posted: 12/14/2001 1:43:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 12/14/2001 1:36:58 PM EDT by Timber_Wolf]
Just checked... it's a pump, so it should be civi legal. But I can only find 1 u.s. distributor and it looks like they're strictly LE.

see: users.aol.com/rwnco/neostead.htm

edited to add link: users.iafrica.com/n/nj/njj741t/
Link Posted: 12/14/2001 3:25:56 PM EDT
The Neostead shot gun being developed by South Africa is a PUMP shot gun therefore not affect bt the AWB.
Link Posted: 12/14/2001 5:37:41 PM EDT
5 round limit i just bought a new 6 shot capacity at wally world
Link Posted: 12/14/2001 5:44:15 PM EDT
I forgot about the pump factor. But it still won't get past the sporting purposes clause like the streetsweeper, etc...

Link Posted: 12/16/2001 1:10:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By gunman0:
I forgot about the pump factor. But it still won't get past the sporting purposes clause like the streetsweeper, etc...




the street sweeper too is SEMI-AUTO not pump..so once again I think this shotgun will make it..... my Mossberg 590 is 9 shot and Ive seen Remm1100 at 13-13 shot and they are semi-auto..but thoose are custom jobs....
Link Posted: 12/16/2001 1:48:21 PM EDT
It is my understanding that you can do just about anything you want to a pump-action shotgun as long as it meets the legal requirements for barrel length and overall length. You can put a folding stock on a pump, but not a semi-auto.
Link Posted: 12/16/2001 2:09:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By M4Madness:
It is my understanding that you can do just about anything you want to a pump-action shotgun as long as it meets the legal requirements for barrel length and overall length. You can put a folding stock on a pump, but not a semi-auto.




Yes, and I would add that the law does allow pistol grip only on the pump action as long as the length restrictions are observed.
Link Posted: 12/16/2001 2:33:05 PM EDT
Link Posted: 12/16/2001 3:12:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By ILove2Shoot:
Now how can we get these?



That's what I want to know. I checked up on it and there's rumors (or full evidence, I forget) that they're looking for a mass market producer for the design.

I'd certainly get one when they came out, if the US govt lets them out in this form. You can be sure that sooner or later, some idiot is going to do something stupid with this gun and ruin it for everyone else.
Link Posted: 12/16/2001 3:30:12 PM EDT
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