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Posted: 11/25/2001 6:42:14 AM EDT
Link Posted: 11/25/2001 9:05:14 AM EDT
7-08 and 300wsm.....to start with......
Link Posted: 11/25/2001 9:12:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/25/2001 9:06:40 AM EDT by 95thFoot]
.303 British?

I have a lot of .303 ammo and SMLEs, etc. Great round!

Hey- it worked in the Bren, Lewis, Maxim and Vickers guns, and quite well, I might add.

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Rule .303!
Link Posted: 11/25/2001 9:17:26 AM EDT
As a lefty I am fucked on getting the bolt guns I would prefer to have. So if you did a .300 WSM I would hook up for sure. Winchester and Browning have told me over the phone that 2003 is best case senario for a left handed .300 WSM and at that the guy said dont hold your breath.

Link Posted: 11/25/2001 10:50:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/25/2001 11:34:02 AM EDT by Arock]
A .300 Short Magnum. Either Remington OR Winchester.

**Edited to add that back in June I spoke with ArmaLite's VP for LE products and he said AL was "working" on a .300 Short Magnum version of the AR10. Asked if he meant the .300 WSM, he said the .300 Remington Short Magnum was looking like a better choice. Didn't ask the reason tho'. Told him I wanted on the list for one.
Link Posted: 11/25/2001 11:13:08 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/25/2001 3:18:37 PM EDT by Arock]
.260 Remington

**Bwaahahahahaa...pardon the edit Nekkid but I have to add that .270 Win HAS to be the choice whether it fits or not OR whether of not anyone makes it... .270 HAS to be the correct choice.

Arock

Okay I git it now. IMO the deer or target will never know the difference.

**And once again you are absolutely CORRECT!!
Link Posted: 11/25/2001 11:16:25 AM EDT
and here's me with no money...

Anyone want to send money to the "Brouhaha wants an AR10 in .300WSM Fund"?
Link Posted: 11/25/2001 11:17:40 AM EDT
.223
Link Posted: 11/25/2001 11:21:24 AM EDT
I want a 7.62x39mm AR that takes AK mags.....

Don't know if its possible, but it would be nice....

-SS
Link Posted: 11/25/2001 11:30:47 AM EDT
7.62x39 sounds good ......
Just try too make the thing work ,,!@@#$%^&*(%I paid 1400!@#$%^&*%^&*(* dollars for one of your t10's brand new in 308 !@#$%^&* thing jammed...
As you can guess I'm not getting f***d agin,so i want be getting one in any cal.$%^&*(^&*( Arm#$%%^lite kiss my ass


Semper-fi
Link Posted: 11/25/2001 12:15:16 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/25/2001 12:54:25 PM EDT

Originally Posted By 95thFoot:
.303 British?

I have a lot of .303 ammo and SMLEs, etc. Great round!

Hey- it worked in the Bren, Lewis, Maxim and Vickers guns, and quite well, I might add.

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Rule .303!

303 is a good and proven round.....what you have to keep in mind here is the ar10 action and stay within the shortened case of 308....243.....7-08...etc........
Link Posted: 11/25/2001 12:55:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fighting-Illini:
.223

WHY?..........
Link Posted: 11/25/2001 1:02:28 PM EDT

Originally Posted By SouthernShark:
I want a 7.62x39mm AR that takes AK mags.....

Don't know if its possible, but it would be nice....

-SS

Actually, this is a good idea.....and if mags were only available in 10 rounders ....to start off....that would be ok.....it`s a decent, cheap round, and I sure would get one.........sks` suck.....ak`s are too damn finicky, if you can find a good one.....waste of time and money.....there are a lot of 7-62 fans who wish colt (or somebody) still made them.........
Link Posted: 11/25/2001 1:04:39 PM EDT
ARMALITE.......if you decide to make a 762-39 upper for either the ar15 or ar 10.....I will buy one......(if the cost is in line of course)
Link Posted: 11/25/2001 1:05:39 PM EDT
300 WSM ...

Ryan
Link Posted: 11/25/2001 5:44:47 PM EDT
.338 Lapua Magnum
Link Posted: 11/25/2001 5:52:21 PM EDT
.260 Rem.
Link Posted: 11/25/2001 5:56:08 PM EDT
Make me one in 22-250 and i'll take a barrel.
-Cruizer
Link Posted: 11/25/2001 6:34:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/25/2001 6:27:30 PM EDT by brouhaha]

Originally Posted By b0ne:
.338 Lapua Magnum



Now THAT I would be sincerely interested in. I would save up to buy it...most definitely!

But, I don't think it's possible. I think the .338LM is far too long of a cartridge. We have to stick to short action rounds like the .308, don't we?
Link Posted: 11/25/2001 7:57:07 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BlackandGreen:

Originally Posted By Fighting-Illini:
.223

WHY?..........



Same reason the army did it, you can carry more bullets.
Link Posted: 11/25/2001 8:16:45 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BlackandGreen:
7-08 and 300wsm.....to start with......



Yeah! What he said!
Link Posted: 11/25/2001 8:17:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Arock:
A .300 Short Magnum. Either Remington OR Winchester.



Yeah! What he said!
Link Posted: 11/25/2001 8:18:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BlackandGreen:

Originally Posted By Fighting-Illini:
.223

WHY?..........



Yeah! What BlackandGreen said!
Link Posted: 11/25/2001 8:26:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/25/2001 8:25:34 PM EDT by cnatra]

Originally Posted By Fighting-Illini:

Originally Posted By BlackandGreen:

Originally Posted By Fighting-Illini:
.223

WHY?..........



Same reason the army did it, you can carry more bullets.



uuhh..isn't that what the Armalite M15A2/A4 is??

Why would I want to lug around a longer & heavier upper & lower receiver than a standard
mil-spec M16 clone??????

Are you alleging that the U.S. Army modified a Armalite AR10 to shoot 5.56mm ammo ??
Seems like trying to reinvent the wheel or fix what ain't broke!

The increased size if the mag-well & magazine on an AR10 accomadates the longer case for the 7.62x51(.308) cartridge BUT I Fail to understand how that would improve ammo capacity for the shorter OAL 5.56mm (.223) case??

I assume the slight increase in width might allow for more than 20rds in .223 BUT how is that better than a standard USGI 30rd magazine??

OR a 100rd Beta-Mag ????????


enlighten us please!
Link Posted: 11/26/2001 6:36:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cnatra:

Originally Posted By Fighting-Illini:

Originally Posted By BlackandGreen:

Originally Posted By Fighting-Illini:
.223

WHY?..........



Same reason the army did it, you can carry more bullets.



uuhh..isn't that what the Armalite M15A2/A4 is??

Why would I want to lug around a longer & heavier upper & lower receiver than a standard
mil-spec M16 clone??????

Are you alleging that the U.S. Army modified a Armalite AR10 to shoot 5.56mm ammo ??
Seems like trying to reinvent the wheel or fix what ain't broke!

The increased size if the mag-well & magazine on an AR10 accomadates the longer case for the 7.62x51(.308) cartridge BUT I Fail to understand how that would improve ammo capacity for the shorter OAL 5.56mm (.223) case??

I assume the slight increase in width might allow for more than 20rds in .223 BUT how is that better than a standard USGI 30rd magazine??

OR a 100rd Beta-Mag ????????


enlighten us please!



dude.......it was a joke.
Link Posted: 11/26/2001 9:02:01 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Fighting-Illini:

dude.......it was a joke.



OK , I can sleep at night now
Link Posted: 11/27/2001 4:33:26 AM EDT
I think these have all been hit but....

1st Choice: 260 Remington (6.5-08)
2nd Choice: 300 WSM
3rd Choice: 22-250 or 22-243

Now for something new....

How about a 338-08... not a high demand item but a great bear cartridge just the same!
Link Posted: 11/27/2001 7:17:33 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Quarterbore:

3rd Choice: 22-250 or 22-243



The 22-250 won't work since it is a long action cartridge.
Link Posted: 11/27/2001 8:19:14 AM EDT



The 22-250 won't work since it is a long action cartridge.


Whatz you talk'n bout Willis ???

OAl of a 22-250 case is 1.912
OAL of a 308 is 2.015

My vote is for the 22-250. 62gnr's at 3600 FPS= buzzzzzsaw. Plenty of room in mag to seat bullets where there supposed to be.

Link Posted: 11/27/2001 8:32:11 AM EDT

Originally Posted By smoken44:



The 22-250 won't work since it is a long action cartridge.


Whatz you talk'n bout Willis ???

OAl of a 22-250 case is 1.912
OAL of a 308 is 2.015

My vote is for the 22-250. 62gnr's at 3600 FPS= buzzzzzsaw. Plenty of room in mag to seat bullets where there supposed to be.




You're absolutely right...hmm...for some reason I thought the 22-250 was based off of the 30-06. Is it the .220 Swift that I'm thinking of?
Link Posted: 11/27/2001 8:38:40 AM EDT
Am I the only want that wants a quality company like armalite to make me a pistol caliber rifle? 9mm is my vote and I would buy one the day it is released.
Link Posted: 11/27/2001 8:55:53 AM EDT
300 WSM would be sweet! I'd buy that 10 T upper for sure. The 22-250 would be pretty cool and you would probably get even more of my money if it was offered. Don't know about tthe lenght of the cartrige. but one chambered in 6.5-284 would be awsome too. Hell while I'm at it I wan't a semi auto 50 bmg from Armalite too.
Link Posted: 11/27/2001 12:17:13 PM EDT
.270
and it would be nice to be able to get .243 in an AR-10 (TC) with a black barrel.
Link Posted: 11/27/2001 1:04:46 PM EDT
Another vote for 7-08. And could you call Trijicon and have them calibrate an ACOG for a 140 gr SBT bullet at standard velocities? Thanks.
Link Posted: 11/27/2001 2:00:20 PM EDT
20mm
Link Posted: 11/27/2001 2:05:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Booger:
Another vote for 7-08. And could you call Trijicon and have them calibrate an ACOG for a 140 gr SBT bullet at standard velocities? Thanks.

SOMEBODY`S thinking...............HEY...who`s awake around here?.....
Link Posted: 11/27/2001 2:13:49 PM EDT


I wish, I wish, 300 WSM, 7mm SAUM and 270 SM. This would be the ultimate.M33
Link Posted: 12/1/2001 5:39:33 AM EDT
.300 Remington Magnum.

What's the right name for that round?
Link Posted: 12/1/2001 6:43:12 AM EDT
.45-70. (kidding)

I'd like to see one in .260, 7mm-08 or .300 WSM. Hell, 30.06 would be neat, but that would require a redesigned lower and upper.
Link Posted: 12/1/2001 6:47:19 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Fighting-Illini:
.223

The ArmaLite version is called an M15.
Link Posted: 12/1/2001 6:51:00 AM EDT

Originally Posted By cnatra:
Are you alleging that the U.S. Army modified a Armalite AR10 to shoot 5.56mm ammo ??!

Essentially, that is how the AR15/M16 came into being. The AR10 came first, but the Army adopted the M14. ArmaLite was later asked to come up with a smaller caliber version.
Link Posted: 12/1/2001 11:41:10 AM EDT
Damn it.

I'm half way to a .50 cal.

I can't afford anything right now.

If I could I would take a 30 cal short magnum, either Winchester or Remington, which ever one will be the most popular five years from now.

I might be able to afford one by next year this time though.
Link Posted: 1/23/2002 6:41:24 PM EDT
30-378
or 50BMG pistol
Link Posted: 1/23/2002 7:10:50 PM EDT
Seriously,

From a marketing stand point, I think you only have 2 choices.

1. Go with a magnum like the 300 WSM, or better yet a rem ultra mag as they are getting all the attention lately.

2. Go with a great (fast) varmint round like the 22-250 or maybe 220 swift.

Both of these would put Armalite back into the limelight in the gun magazines and would sell like hotcakes.

There's a huge market for the 22-250. Lots of Varmint hunters, and others that want a light recoil gun with high velocity and flat trajectory. I predict it would become the hot-caliber for the AR15 crowd. Of course, it won't replace the 223 in sales due to ammo costs.

The 300wsm should sell to the bigger is better crowd. Worked for the 44 and 50 Desert Eagles.

You won't see any great interest with any of the comtemporary big game rounds (270, 30'06, etc.). Plinkers don't care if it's a 270 or 308. Most hunters as usual are going to pick a bolt gun for deer and the like.

BTW: Putting muzzle breaks on the majority of your AR10's is hurting sales. When people think Armalite they think quality and those muzzle breaks look hokey. A brake that was slim and looked more along the lines of the normal AR15 flash hider would be the hot ticket. Say with grooves to simulate the flash hider and holes on top for muzzle control. However, still better to go with the varmint/sniper rifle look and just drop the brake on the large caliber rifles.

Also, you should start putting a PSG1 type of grip on your AR10T's. That's the sniper type of look people want. T

he Camo is a great idea, but I don't think enough people know about them.

Link Posted: 1/23/2002 8:58:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/23/2002 8:59:14 PM EDT by Boomholzer]
votes for all those already mentioned: In order of preference:

7mm-08
.300 WSM, it would be some incentive to get a bolt in that gimmicky cartidge.
22-250
25.06

Link Posted: 1/23/2002 10:34:14 PM EDT
Link Posted: 2/6/2002 7:40:23 AM EDT
6.5/284 over the 30 short mags. Why?...6.5/284 can use the exististing bolt and may feed through the M14 mags easier. It also shoots as flat or flatter than the 30's and Norma is making brass, Redding dies and the awesome 6.5 bullets. For a 30 to shoot as flat you'd need 180+grn bullets and you'd run into length problems.
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 6:18:24 PM EDT

Originally Posted By cnatra:

Originally Posted By Fighting-Illini:

Originally Posted By BlackandGreen:

Originally Posted By Fighting-Illini:
.223

WHY?..........



Same reason the army did it, you can carry more bullets.



uuhh..isn't that what the Armalite M15A2/A4 is??

Why would I want to lug around a longer & heavier upper & lower receiver than a standard
mil-spec M16 clone??????

Are you alleging that the U.S. Army modified a Armalite AR10 to shoot 5.56mm ammo ??
Seems like trying to reinvent the wheel or fix what ain't broke!

The increased size if the mag-well & magazine on an AR10 accomadates the longer case for the 7.62x51(.308) cartridge BUT I Fail to understand how that would improve ammo capacity for the shorter OAL 5.56mm (.223) case??

I assume the slight increase in width might allow for more than 20rds in .223 BUT how is that better than a standard USGI 30rd magazine??

OR a 100rd Beta-Mag ????????


enlighten us please!

Actually, the AR10 was developed first to compete in the 7.62x51Nato round against the M14. When the idea for a smaller round was conceived, the AR15 was developed from the AR10.
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 7:21:17 PM EDT
In last month's issue of Small Arms Review, there is an article about making an AR-10 upper in 300 WSM. It required a new barrel, bolt, and a gastube wrapped around the barrel like the pigtail gas tube, but for an 20in barreled AR-10
Link Posted: 2/7/2002 8:05:29 PM EDT
7-08 in a Tubbs space gun configuration!
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