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Posted: 11/2/2001 4:53:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/2/2001 4:48:19 PM EDT by schapman43]
I was sitting here thinking of what I wanted to get for a 308 semi auto rifle. I was thinking of either a G3 or FAL clone and then the AR-10 popped into my head. I know armalite makes the AR-10 but they are a bit more than I would like to spend. Does anyone else make a .308 AR style rifle? I guess the other consideration is a M-14. What do these run?


Thanks
Link Posted: 11/2/2001 5:06:23 PM EDT
The Stoner SR-25 comes to mind. Pretty pricey too. I think that the general opinion is that the fit/finish of the Stoner is better...Stoner spends their labor making it look great. Many feel that the Armalite AR-10 is 'The' 308 in a service rifle. Armalite is a bit more rough around the edges, but they are making a military quality service rifle, not a display piece.

Apparently there were a few SR-25's in use by the Seals which have been recently found to be lacking, and have been replaced by AR-10s.

Here is a link you might find interesting concerning the Stoner: http://www.biggerhammer.net/stoner/

Here is a link concerning AR-10 use in the military: www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=62546
Link Posted: 11/2/2001 5:47:26 PM EDT
I wanna see some info on ASA's new .308 rifle. I know they have a shoddy reputation, but a .308 AR style that takes inexpensive FAL mags sounds so good I'm willing to risk it.



Link Posted: 11/2/2001 5:48:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/2/2001 9:23:56 PM EDT by Dave_G]
The SR-25 and SR-15 are products of Knight's Armament. The SR-25 is more expensive than the AR-10 and the magazines are much more expensive. ASA is making a .308 rifle, but it is new and has no rep yet. They are also being sued for patent infringement by ArmaLite.

(Typo! SR-25, not SR-15, is the .308 I was trying to type in. Drat. Stupid computer.)
Link Posted: 11/2/2001 6:22:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By schapman43:
I was sitting here thinking of what I wanted to get for a 308 semi auto rifle. I was thinking of either a G3 or FAL clone and then the AR-10 popped into my head. I know armalite makes the AR-10 but they are a bit more than I would like to spend. Does anyone else make a .308 AR style rifle? I guess the other consideration is a M-14. What do these run?


Thanks



May I suggest that before you buy, you check price & availibility on their mags. A single shot $1500-2000 rifle won't be much fun if mags became a problem. I shied away from AR-10s because of the mags & instead got a G3. Mags are plentiful & not too bad @ $40-45 each.
Link Posted: 11/2/2001 6:30:35 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/2/2001 6:31:17 PM EDT by thewizardofaz]
Dave G, the Knights SR-15, both M4 and M5, are 5.56/.223 and use regular USGI mags appropriate for that caliber. I have the M5 with 20" barrel. Fit and finish are flawless and include RAS, chromed bolt carrier assembly and bol5, 300 m bolt on rear sight. Mine also came with one new Colt 30 rd mag. Retail is $1495, but I didn't pay retail <g>. I am having a problem with the bolt not catching on the bolt catch however. Working on it....Oh..my AR-10 works pretty good too. I like em both.
Link Posted: 11/2/2001 6:35:39 PM EDT
How do the M1A scout and the G3 compare?
Link Posted: 11/2/2001 6:40:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BobCole


May I suggest that before you buy, you check price & availibility on their mags. A single shot $1500-2000 rifle won't be much fun if mags became a problem. I shied away from AR-10s because of the mags & instead got a G3. Mags are plentiful & not too bad @ $40-45 each.

G3 mags are hardly $40-45 each. They were about $30 for contract mags before and now they are running about $10 each.
Link Posted: 11/2/2001 7:11:27 PM EDT
Why not get an Eagle Arms AR-10 for $999.00?
Link Posted: 11/3/2001 4:24:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/3/2001 4:18:35 AM EDT by Tuukka]

Apparently there were a few SR-25's in use by the Seals which have been recently found to be lacking, and have been replaced by AR-10s.


The SEALs(capitalized) have now adopted a 20" version modified especially for them of the SR-25, as the Mk 11 Mod 0.

Link Posted: 11/3/2001 6:15:46 AM EDT
OK, I think I have made my mind up and came to 2 choices. The Springfield SAR8 or the M1A. What do you guys think.
Link Posted: 11/3/2001 9:51:37 PM EDT

Originally Posted By BobCole:
got a G3. Mags are plentiful & not too bad @ $40-45 each.



$0-$45! I only pay about $10 max! In fact, several places recently had them at 10 for $80! And these are in good shape. If you're paying that much, you are getting REALLY ripped off.

BTW, all mine were factory HK, not some cheap crap. And they all function flawlessly.
Link Posted: 11/4/2001 3:44:44 AM EDT
I've got both AR-10s and an SR-25. The SR won't outshoot the AR-10.

The SR has a chromed bolt group, and the ArmaLite has a GI style group that's chromed inside.

Somebody around here pointed out that the SR-25 shows polishing outside because it has to. The upper is an extrusion and the lower is a forging, and they have to be polished to make the finish look the same. The AR-10 upper, lower, and charging handle are all made from forgings. That's a higher quality construction, not cheaper.

What a lot of you are confusing with quality is polish.

ArmaLite has a good summary of their rifle in a technical note. Find it in the library at armalite.com. I haven't found anything like that at Knight's site, so if anybody knows where it is please post it.

I've seen the ASA and Hesse rifles. Hesse quality is well known, and you can get the rundown by checking their industry site. ASA uses Hesse parts.
Link Posted: 11/4/2001 6:13:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/4/2001 6:08:22 AM EDT by OSA]

Originally Posted By BobCole:
got a G3. Mags are plentiful & not too bad @ $40-45 each.



I just bought a bunch of magazines for my CETME from www.tapco.com and they were under $5 each when buying 20 or more magazines. The add said they also fit G3's???

OSA

Link Posted: 11/4/2001 10:03:32 AM EDT
In my mind there's a lot of difference in an AR -10 Style Rifle and an M1A. Still, if you want .308 battle rifle, M1A's started it all. Can anyone comment on if an out of the box M1A will shoot as well as an AR-10 I have a 10T and I hardly think, don't want to think, an off the shelf M1A will shoot as well as mine does.
Link Posted: 11/4/2001 11:47:06 AM EDT

Originally Posted By gnfiter2:
Can anyone comment on if an out of the box M1A will shoot as well as an AR-10 I have a 10T and I hardly think, don't want to think, an off the shelf M1A will shoot as well as mine does.



My M1A shot sub MOA at 100 yards and MOA at 200 yards yesterday. I'm not a particularly good shot either, I'm sure I'm,not shooting up to the rifles capabilities. see my post in the optic forum; "$99.00 scope reveiw".
Link Posted: 11/4/2001 2:13:48 PM EDT
My M1A shot sub MOA at 100 yards and MOA at 200 yards yesterday. I'm not a particularly good shot either, I'm sure I'm,not shooting up to the rifles capabilities. see my post in the optic forum; "$99.00 scope reveiw".
MOA means "minute of angle" MOA would be about an inch and 100yds and 2 inches a 200yds ect.

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