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Posted: 10/3/2021 10:12:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fabian: Well after seeing a XCR on YouTube then coming across this topic, looks like I am going to sell my SCAR 16 and order the XCR-L 7.5" 300blk. Figure this would be a better option for my collecting rather than another basic AR-15 300blk. That's a good swap. SCARs are fine, but I think the XCR is a better rifle. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 6:49:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lew: That's a good swap. SCARs are fine, but I think the XCR is a better rifle. Oof... They're both good rifles but the SCAR has way more testing and pedigree behind it than the XCR. Also, the chance of FN going out of business is slim to none. Still, having said that, the XCR is a capable rifle. I would try and keep the scar and get an XCR to run in addition to. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:52:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Magsz18: Oof... They're both good rifles but the SCAR has way more testing and pedigree behind it than the XCR. Also, the chance of FN going out of business is slim to none. Still, having said that, the XCR is a capable rifle. I would try and keep the scar and get an XCR to run in addition to. I could keep the SCAR 16, but I feel like with my ADM 11.5 SBR and KAC SR-15 16" have 223/556 rifles covered. I just feel like I need a 300blk suppressed SBR to plink with since everyone says they are the quietest shooting. I agree FN will never go out of business as compared to a small business.. Too many decisions lol ugh |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 7:57:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: lew]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Magsz18: Oof... They're both good rifles but the SCAR has way more testing and pedigree behind it than the XCR. Also, the chance of FN going out of business is slim to none. Still, having said that, the XCR is a capable rifle. I would try and keep the scar and get an XCR to run in addition to. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Magsz18: Originally Posted By lew: That's a good swap. SCARs are fine, but I think the XCR is a better rifle. Oof... They're both good rifles but the SCAR has way more testing and pedigree behind it than the XCR. Also, the chance of FN going out of business is slim to none. Still, having said that, the XCR is a capable rifle. I would try and keep the scar and get an XCR to run in addition to. How easy is it to get spares for the SCAR? FN's CS is a joke. FN also has the unenviable track record of dropping models whenever they see fit. Now, that applies mostly to their pistols, but I would exercise some caution. Again, I'm not knocking the SCAR. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 8:03:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lew: How easy is it to get spares for the SCAR? FN's CS is a joke. FN also has the unenviable track record of dropping models whenever they see fit. Now, that applies mostly to their pistols, but I would exercise some caution. Again, I'm not knocking the SCAR. You are absolutely not wrong lol. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 8:10:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: RABIDFOX50]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lew: How easy is it to get spares for the SCAR? FN's CS is a joke. FN also has the unenviable track record of dropping models whenever they see fit. Now, that applies mostly to their pistols, but I would exercise some caution. Again, I'm not knocking the SCAR. I was able to purchase just about every essential part for my SCAR16 with the exception of the bolt and carrier. Those are f’ing expensive!  Same goes for my FN 509T. Parts are plentiful and I’ve thought ahead and purchased spares with no issues. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/4/2021 8:43:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Magsz18: Oof... They're both good rifles but the SCAR has way more testing and pedigree behind it than the XCR. Also, the chance of FN going out of business is slim to none. Still, having said that, the XCR is a capable rifle. I would try and keep the scar and get an XCR to run in addition to. Also I feel like I would be better off getting a SCAR 17 or 20. The 16 just seems lackluster.. |
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Posted: 10/4/2021 10:11:25 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Magsz18: Oof... They're both good rifles but the SCAR has way more testing and pedigree behind it than the XCR. Also, the chance of FN going out of business is slim to none. Still, having said that, the XCR is a capable rifle. I would try and keep the scar and get an XCR to run in addition to. |
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UT, USA
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Posted: 10/4/2021 10:59:36 PM EDT
[#9]
Funny thing about big companies going out of business. In the time that Robinson has been around, how many Big gun makers have come and gone? Remington, Colt, Bushmaster.....
Not to mention, Alex is independently wealthy. I think they'll be just fine |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 12:56:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Fabian: Also I feel like I would be better off getting a SCAR 17 or 20. The 16 just seems lackluster.. Like like both the 16 and 17. It’s really a “to each his own” thing. Totally personal preference. If I had to choose, I’d pick my 16 over my best AR. I was always interested in the XCR and I have shot it a few times in 5.56/ 16” barrel. I liked it but never got around to buying one. I’d like to buy one now or in the near future. |
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Posted: 10/5/2021 8:28:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rigian: The XCR has had more than sufficient testing to prove its worth. Worth is relative to the individual. Some people take great stock in weapons being developed for a military tender. The XCR was developed for a military tender but was never put through the same rigors that FN put their design through. Whether that is worth something to you is well, up to you. It is an indisputable fact that the SCAR has had more testing than the XCR. Once again, whether or not that matters is up to the buyer. |
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NE, USA
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Posted: 10/5/2021 8:41:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Magsz18: Oof... They're both good rifles but the SCAR has way more testing and pedigree behind it than the XCR. Also, the chance of FN going out of business is slim to none. Still, having said that, the XCR is a capable rifle. I would try and keep the scar and get an XCR to run in addition to. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Magsz18: Originally Posted By lew: That's a good swap. SCARs are fine, but I think the XCR is a better rifle. Oof... They're both good rifles but the SCAR has way more testing and pedigree behind it than the XCR. Also, the chance of FN going out of business is slim to none. Still, having said that, the XCR is a capable rifle. I would try and keep the scar and get an XCR to run in addition to. People have been saying this about the XCR [not tested enough] and Robinson Armament [small company will fail sooner than later] for a long time. |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 1:07:03 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SperlingPE: People have been saying this about the XCR [not tested enough] and Robinson Armament [small company will fail sooner than later] for a long time. |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 5:52:05 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SperlingPE: People have been saying this about the XCR [not tested enough] and Robinson Armament [small company will fail sooner than later] for a long time. People might be saying that. I'm not one of them. I'm merely pointing out some facts in regard to the former, not really the latter. Rob Arms has been around for a while and more than likely they're not going anywhere. Having said that, FN has been around a lot longer and are more than likely REALLY not going anywhere. |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 3:16:55 PM EDT
[#15]
I'd love to own one.
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Posted: 10/6/2021 5:52:58 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Rigian]
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eracer: I'd love to own one. https://robinsonarmament.com/product-category/in-stock/   |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 10/6/2021 5:55:32 PM EDT
[#17]
I like the OD green! Too bad its not 7.5" 300blk
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Posted: 10/6/2021 6:02:32 PM EDT
[#18]
they both sold earlier today
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Posted: 10/6/2021 6:09:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By sgwlower: they both sold earlier today |
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Posted: 10/6/2021 10:39:20 PM EDT
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If any of you guys are having trouble getting an xcr and wouldn't mind an earlier gen version, I've been considering selling mine. Message me if you want to talk details
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MD, USA
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Posted: 10/7/2021 8:43:33 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ABElisch]
[#21]
Finally! Got word today my 16”, 7.62x39 FDE XCR-L will ship late next week. FWIW, that will put it at just shy of 8 months from order to FFL.
 Have been accumulating ammo during the wait.Looking forward to building some proficiency w it. ABE |
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NE, USA
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Posted: 10/7/2021 11:41:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Magsz18: People might be saying that. I'm not one of them. I'm merely pointing out some facts in regard to the former, not really the latter. Rob Arms has been around for a while and more than likely they're not going anywhere. Having said that, FN has been around a lot longer and are more than likely REALLY not going anywhere. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Magsz18: Originally Posted By SperlingPE: People have been saying this about the XCR [not tested enough] and Robinson Armament [small company will fail sooner than later] for a long time. People might be saying that. I'm not one of them. I'm merely pointing out some facts in regard to the former, not really the latter. Rob Arms has been around for a while and more than likely they're not going anywhere. Having said that, FN has been around a lot longer and are more than likely REALLY not going anywhere. So why not just say that? |
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Posted: 10/7/2021 11:54:35 PM EDT
[#23]
I don't know the exact dates but hasn't Robinson been selling guns here longer than FN America has existed?
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CO, USA
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Posted: 10/8/2021 2:41:46 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ABElisch: Finally! Got word today my 16”, 7.62x39 FDE XCR-L will ship late next week. FWIW, that will put it at just shy of 8 months from order to FFL. Same here. Got contacted for payment today, ordered 2/23. Our long wait is nearly over! Now I can turn all my impatience towards that Sig 551 I have ordered, lol. |
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Posted: 10/8/2021 2:49:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SperlingPE: So why not just say that? I did say exactly that. I'm not sure where the miscommunication lies. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 10/8/2021 1:18:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akumadiavolo: Same here. Got contacted for payment today, ordered 2/23. Our long wait is nearly over! Now I can turn all my impatience towards that Sig 551 I have ordered, lol. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akumadiavolo: Originally Posted By ABElisch: Finally! Got word today my 16”, 7.62x39 FDE XCR-L will ship late next week. FWIW, that will put it at just shy of 8 months from order to FFL. Same here. Got contacted for payment today, ordered 2/23. Our long wait is nearly over! Now I can turn all my impatience towards that Sig 551 I have ordered, lol. 1/15 for me.... looks like you guys were holding me up! |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 10/8/2021 9:48:09 PM EDT
[#27]
I ordered a 7.62x39 in late February and just reached out to them yesterday. They said the barrel was still the holdup and we're going to let me know what was going on with it.
I'm hoping mine will be shipped soon. |
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Posted: 10/8/2021 10:23:44 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NY_crawler: I ordered a 7.62x39 in late February and just reached out to them yesterday. They said the barrel was still the holdup and we're going to let me know what was going on with it. I'm hoping mine will be shipped soon. |
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NY, USA
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Posted: 10/9/2021 7:46:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: NY_crawler]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rigian: They don't do the barrels in house do they? Who does the barrels for them? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rigian: Originally Posted By NY_crawler: I ordered a 7.62x39 in late February and just reached out to them yesterday. They said the barrel was still the holdup and we're going to let me know what was going on with it. I'm hoping mine will be shipped soon. I was expecting a late August ship date but held off until the other day to follow up to see where it is at. They are still saying the barrel is the hold up. |
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Posted: 10/9/2021 10:59:43 AM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NY_crawler: From my email with them in July it sounds like they make the barrels in house but they said they had to send it out for chrome. They said that it usually takes 3 weeks for chrome, so it would be about 4 weeks until it would ship. I was expecting a late August ship date but held off until the other day to follow up to see where it is at. They are still saying the barrel is the hold up. that is correct, and they do them in batches. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 10/26/2021 1:50:24 PM EDT
[#31]
My 7.62x39 XCR is now waiting for me at my LGS! Delivery was a few days over 8 months from ordering. Unfortunately it will be a week before I get back in country. Am also still waiting for the spare 5.56 mm barrel.
Gives me time to figure out how to post pictures after I get back from eating Indian tonight here in the South of England. ABE |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/13/2021 5:02:11 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Magsz18: Oof... They're both good rifles but the SCAR has way more testing and pedigree behind it than the XCR. Also, the chance of FN going out of business is slim to none. Still, having said that, the XCR is a capable rifle. I would try and keep the scar and get an XCR to run in addition to. Dude, I bought my XCR in 2005 or 6.... and they had been around for longer than that. You have a better chance of an import ban killing parts availability of competing rifles than Robinson going under. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 11/15/2021 9:59:33 PM EDT
[#33]
To RobArm’s credit, they actually have parts available- at least they shipped my XCR with the 23 spare parts I ordered at the same time.
In contrast, and as much as I love my CZ’s, CZ-USA is struggling to stock parts. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 9:25:11 PM EDT
[#34]
Going to pull the trigger on an 11” 5.56. Any thoughts on what barrel twist to go with?
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Posted: 11/18/2021 9:44:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MagnusActual]
[#35]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd45c: Going to pull the trigger on an 11" 5.56. Any thoughts on what barrel twist to go with? @xd45c They show a 5.56 chamber on their site but they actually use a .223 Wylde (or perhaps their version) chamber. It's misleading and they should clarify/correct it. I originally went with 1:7 thinking it was a 5.56, then found out the above and changed to a 1:8 for my 11" barrel. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 10:19:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Johnny_Longslide: @xd45c They show a 5.56 chamber on their site but they actually use a .223 Wylde (or perhaps their version) chamber. It's misleading and they should  clarify/correct it.I originally went with 1:7 thinking it was a 5.56, then found out the above and changed to a 1:8 for my 11" barrel. Appreciate it. 1:8 is actually what I had in the cart too so you twist my leg enough, order placed |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 10:31:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd45c: Appreciate it. 1:8 is actually what I had in the cart too so you twist my leg enough, order placed Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd45c: Originally Posted By Johnny_Longslide: @xd45c They show a 5.56 chamber on their site but they actually use a .223 Wylde (or perhaps their version) chamber. It's misleading and they should clarify/correct it. I originally went with 1:7 thinking it was a 5.56, then found out the above and changed to a 1:8 for my 11" barrel. Appreciate it. 1:8 is actually what I had in the cart too so you twist my leg enough, order placed Right on And now.... You wait. |
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Posted: 11/18/2021 10:58:18 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Johnny_Longslide: Right on And now.... You wait. Yeah I’m well versed in that from the NFA game. They quoted “3+ months” when I asked, I’m setting my hopes on 6-7 months, any ideas what they are actually running at? I think I have 2 cans that should be back in 6 months, maybe they’ll all be in my hands at the same time  Figured now is a good time to order, don’t get out shooting much in the winter so no real time lost there. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 11/19/2021 3:31:34 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd45c: Yeah I’m well versed in that from the NFA game. They quoted “3+ months” when I asked, I’m setting my hopes on 6-7 months, any ideas what they are actually running at? I think I have 2 cans that should be back in 6 months, maybe they’ll all be in my hands at the same time Figured now is a good time to order, don’t get out shooting much in the winter so no real time lost there. I will be at nine months and counting on Monday. |
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Posted: 11/19/2021 12:11:31 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akumadiavolo: I will be at nine months and counting on Monday. 
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CO, USA
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Posted: 11/19/2021 4:36:26 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Rigian: https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/514647/B01BD326-2681-4BF1-8F5C-BC62B1A2992C-1870990.jpg I concur. And honestly the entire process has been a shit show. When I ordered I was quoted 5 months. At the 6 month mark I emailed and asked what was up. They said it was a few weeks away. They missed that target, and another and another. At no point have they reached out to me pre-emptively to explain anything. I always have to email them and ask what is going on when they miss the target. They say they don't take you money until it's a week away from shipping. They took my money 6 weeks ago saying it would ship in a week. Still nothing. I have to keep emailing and asking what is going on and keep getting different reasons for delays. I have also had to email them multiple times in a row to get a response a few times now. I am currently sitting on a "we don't know why it's being delayed, I will try to find out" email from today. It's pretty infuriating and at this point I am regretting not just buying one off the shelf from one of their authorized dealers when I had the opportunity. |
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Posted: 11/19/2021 11:24:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: xd45c]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akumadiavolo: I concur. And honestly the entire process has been a shit show. When I ordered I was quoted 5 months. At the 6 month mark I emailed and asked what was up. They said it was a few weeks away. They missed that target, and another and another. At no point have they reached out to me pre-emptively to explain anything. I always have to email them and ask what is going on when they miss the target. They say they don't take you money until it's a week away from shipping. They took my money 6 weeks ago saying it would ship in a week. Still nothing. I have to keep emailing and asking what is going on and keep getting different reasons for delays.I have also had to email them multiple times in a row to get a response a few times now. I am currently sitting on a "we don't know why it's being delayed, I will try to find out" email from today. It's pretty infuriating and at this point I am regretting not just buying one off the shelf from one of their authorized dealers when I had the opportunity. Yeah well, who asked you That is some BS, I wouldn’t be too happy with that part. Keep us updated here if you don’t mind. Hope you get it soon. |
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Posted: 11/20/2021 3:47:47 AM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Johnny_Longslide: @xd45c They show a 5.56 chamber on their site but they actually use a .223 Wylde (or perhaps their version) chamber. It's misleading and they should clarify/correct it. I originally went with 1:7 thinking it was a 5.56, then found out the above and changed to a 1:8 for my 11" barrel. Can you elaborate on your thinking on this? Why the faster twist on the 556 chamber? |
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Posted: 11/20/2021 9:20:25 PM EDT
[#44]
There’s a nice XCR-M for sale in the EE. It’s not mine and I don’t know the seller.
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Posted: 11/20/2021 11:19:22 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Gr8Santini: There's a nice XCR-M for sale in the EE. It's not mine and I don't know the seller.  Thats almost exactly the XCR-M I wanted to get too. Wife wont let me buy another gun this year anyway so . . . (I know, I know) |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 11/23/2021 3:31:52 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By xd45c: Yeah well, who asked you That is some BS, I wouldn’t be too happy with that part. Keep us updated here if you don’t mind. Hope you get it soon. Ugh. So after not getting a reply on Friday I emailed them yesterday(Monday for people who read this later). They didn't reply to that so I emailed again today and got what I feel is a lame excuse. I ordered it with a custom Gun Candy color. He said they did one coat, then ran out of paint and had to order more. "Custom paint takes longer". 2 fucking months longer? So I kinda went off and expressed all of my frustrations in my reply after months upon months of being extremely understanding and polite. And they still didn't actually give any kind of estimate on when it might ship, so I had to ask for that, yet again. This gun better be fucking perfect when I get it, because I never want to deal with these people again. |
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Posted: 11/23/2021 8:15:11 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akumadiavolo: Ugh. So after not getting a reply on Friday I emailed them yesterday(Monday for people who read this later). They didn't reply to that so I emailed again today and got what I feel is a lame excuse. I ordered it with a custom Gun Candy color. He said they did one coat, then ran out of paint and had to order more. "Custom paint takes longer". 2 fucking months longer? So I kinda went off and expressed all of my frustrations in my reply after months upon months of being extremely understanding and polite. And they still didn't actually give any kind of estimate on when it might ship, so I had to ask for that, yet again. This gun better be fucking perfect when I get it, because I never want to deal with these people again. In Pedo Joe's America, I believe it. So much tomfuckery afoot in manufacturing. In Robinson's defense, the estimate they provided is all probably all they have. Sucks, and I won't pretend it doesn't. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 12/3/2021 7:07:01 PM EDT
[#48]
I was going to email them again today and ask what is going on after another week and a half of not hearing back. Before I could though I got the shipping notice. Should arrive on Tuesday, and of it does it will be nine and a half months exactly from the day I ordered.
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PA, USA
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Posted: 12/3/2021 9:57:18 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By akumadiavolo: I was going to email them again today and ask what is going on after another week and a half of not hearing back. Before I could though I got the shipping notice. Should arrive on Tuesday, and of it does it will be nine and a half months exactly from the day I ordered.  . Post pics
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NY, USA
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Posted: 12/3/2021 10:28:36 PM EDT
[#50]
I still have not received any word on mine in about 5 or 6 weeks. I will have to email them again next week. I ordered mine the end of February.
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