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Posted: 2/5/2022 7:32:49 PM EDT
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I stumbled into this thread last night while looking for rabbit holes to explore and today while I was out trying to get my e-form 4 moving that I purchased back in December I noticed a 14" and an 11" on the shelf. I have been stamping everything but in this case I bought the 14" model with a plan to pin/weld dead air hider and roll it as a rifle. As expected of CZ these days its a nice weapon. I ordered a HB handguard and am trying to track down the cz 922 stock kit.
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Posted: 2/6/2022 12:52:52 AM EDT
[#2]
I have a SIG Romeo5 on my 11 inch BREN 2 and it works quite well.
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USA
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Posted: 2/6/2022 10:32:06 AM EDT
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kells81: I stumbled into this thread last night while looking for rabbit holes to explore and today while I was out trying to get my e-form 4 moving that I purchased back in December I noticed a 14" and an 11" on the shelf. I have been stamping everything but in this case I bought the 14" model with a plan to pin/weld dead air hider and roll it as a rifle. As expected of CZ these days its a nice weapon. I ordered a HB handguard and am trying to track down the cz 922 stock kit. Here you go: https://shop.cz-usa.com/cz-usa-bren-2-ms-5-56x45-922r-parts-kit-includes-stock.html |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 2/6/2022 7:29:46 PM EDT
[#4]
On sale now.......$249.99.
https://www.preppergunshop.com/cz-bren-922r-parts-and-folding-stock-kit-black?mc_cid=dbc96b7a85&mc_eid=9bdcb8ccac |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 7:43:10 PM EDT
[#5]
Ordered the stock kit and also a 10" HBI handguard for it.
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Posted: 2/6/2022 9:19:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: masterofpew]
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kells81: Ordered the stock kit and also a 10" HBI handguard for it. Good stuff man  @kells81 My son and I worked on the Bren 2Ms today after church service. HBI trigger, handguard and safety selectors. Aimpoint PRO and a folding side charger handle.  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached FileMade a mess of the kitchen table 
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Posted: 2/6/2022 9:47:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dolor]
[#7]
So I saw something that I can't unsee now in pics.
. The lightning cuts on the receiver on the military moderns or the very first batch of imports. Mishaco mentioned it in a video. Now every pic I see of the 2 I think the lightning cuts look so much more sick. . At the end of they I'm just over thinking it but idk what do you guys think? EDIT: Alright-ish pic of the two near each other. Top being the early imports. Military guns have the same cuts, I believe. Bottom being the MS, current imports.  Attached File |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 10:36:37 PM EDT
[#8]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ: So I saw something that I can't unsee now in pics. . The lightning cuts on the receiver on the military moderns or the very first batch of imports. Mishaco mentioned it in a video. Now every pic I see of the 2 I think the lightning cuts look so much more sick. . At the end of they I'm just over thinking it but idk what do you guys think? EDIT: Alright-ish pic of the two near each other. Top being the early imports. Military guns have the same cuts, I believe. Bottom being the MS, current imports. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/418820/bren_2_png-2269877.JPG Looks good with side milled out on the 2s version. Wonder why they changed the outer upper receiver. And not keep it for the 2Ms version too. |
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Posted: 2/6/2022 10:59:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Dolor]
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shooter_from_show-me: Looks good with side milled out on the 2s version. Wonder why they changed the outer upper receiver. And not keep it for the 2Ms version too. Yeah seeing them side by side if feel like the MS is a 'cost cutting' receiver. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/7/2022 12:17:38 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ: So I saw something that I can't unsee now in pics. . The lightning cuts on the receiver on the military moderns or the very first batch of imports. Mishaco mentioned it in a video. Now every pic I see of the 2 I think the lightning cuts look so much more sick. . At the end of they I'm just over thinking it but idk what do you guys think? EDIT: Alright-ish pic of the two near each other. Top being the early imports. Military guns have the same cuts, I believe. Bottom being the MS, current imports. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/418820/bren_2_png-2269877.JPG Yes, the lightning cuts do look good. Even though the 2S isn’t an exact military clone, I think CZ should have carried over the cuts on the MS. European MS variants lack the lightning cuts as well. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/7/2022 12:33:06 AM EDT
[#11]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kells81: I stumbled into this thread last night while looking for rabbit holes to explore and today while I was out trying to get my e-form 4 moving that I purchased back in December I noticed a 14" and an 11" on the shelf. I have been stamping everything but in this case I bought the 14" model with a plan to pin/weld dead air hider and roll it as a rifle. As expected of CZ these days its a nice weapon. I ordered a HB handguard and am trying to track down the cz 922 stock kit. My two 11” Brens are SBR’s, and my 14” has a pinned/welded NOX FH. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/7/2022 12:39:51 AM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JackwagonJim: My LGS has a bren 2 carbine in stock in 556...debating grabbing it tomorrow.. What kind of optics ya all running on the carbine? 1.5X6 Elcan. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/7/2022 12:58:54 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Zeebz: Some pics of the CZ Bren 2 PPS - a DMR variant of the Bren 2 BR also in 7.62 NATO. Has an 18" barrel and MLok handguard like the Bren 2 Carbine. Unfortunately this is a mil only variant right now like the BR. https://www.czdefence.com/images/CLANKY/ACR/43/BREN2BR/bren2br_03.jpg https://www.czdefence.com/images/CLANKY/ACR/43/BREN2BR/_DSC6190.jpg https://www.czdefence.com/images/CLANKY/ACR/43/BREN2BR/drag_pps.jpg Interesting. There appears to be a mounting block for the stock just rearward of the receiver mounted QD sling mounts that is secured by a screw on both sides, and four additional receiver screws, most likely for an internal steel rail, on the LH side. I wonder then if the standard BR model has been updated, or if these revisions were only added on the PPS model? |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/7/2022 1:02:24 PM EDT
[#14]
 Co vše vydrží CZ BREN 2 PPS |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/7/2022 2:58:00 PM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryGod damn Czech bastards....just sell us this already. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/7/2022 4:43:38 PM EDT
[#16]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ: So I saw something that I can't unsee now in pics. . The lightning cuts on the receiver on the military moderns or the very first batch of imports. Mishaco mentioned it in a video. Now every pic I see of the 2 I think the lightning cuts look so much more sick. . At the end of they I'm just over thinking it but idk what do you guys think? EDIT: Alright-ish pic of the two near each other. Top being the early imports. Military guns have the same cuts, I believe. Bottom being the MS, current imports. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/418820/bren_2_png-2269877.JPG Current military Bren 2 rifles are up to Ms spec now...unofficially the Bren 2 has been revised globally to the Ms... |
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Posted: 2/7/2022 5:46:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Current military Bren 2 rifles are up to Ms spec now...unofficially the Bren 2 has been revised globally to the Ms... Appreciate the info. I wasn't aware of that. I just saw pics of Czech soldiers with the 2s. Its funny Gun Jesus posted a video on the 805 today and said something similar in nature about the 805s. They quietly updated the 805s to a gen 2. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/7/2022 9:28:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: thehun06]
[#18]
Yeah...Bren 805 was great...they quickly moved to Bren 2...when CZ USA requested the Ms change...it looks like it is trickling into the military guns too..
7.62 BR is def a Ms type upper... |
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Posted: 2/8/2022 12:37:11 AM EDT
[#19]
Load test at 50 yards, just for POA/POI, think this will work well, 11 inch barrel
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Posted: 2/8/2022 10:09:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Smurgeon: God damn Czech bastards....just sell us this already. I just went and got a B&T APC308. Tired of waiting for the damn BR variant 
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USA
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Posted: 2/9/2022 9:10:01 AM EDT
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@Zeebz you know that APC308 will make it to me some day right ...
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Posted: 2/9/2022 4:18:17 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: @Zeebz you know that APC308 will make it to me some day right ... Hands off! 
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/11/2022 12:44:42 PM EDT
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ: Yeah seeing them side by side if feel like the MS is a 'cost cutting' receiver. Saves time on the mill and cuts production costs. Current MIL/LE models still incorporate the lightning cuts, based on their product images. The BR does not have the lightning cuts. https://www.czub.cz/en/defend-and-serve/utocne-pusky-defend |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 1:57:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By HALFNATTYGAINZ: Yeah seeing them side by side if feel like the MS is a 'cost cutting' receiver. Probably so. |
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Posted: 2/11/2022 6:26:15 PM EDT
[#25]
Mail call,
HBI G36 stock setup HBI longer rail HBI Trigger HBI Disco HBI whatever CZ 922 stock kit 
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Posted: 2/11/2022 9:15:33 PM EDT
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Ok, so I prelim read the directions of the HBI rail which say remove the bayo lug. I held off on removing it until the rail got here and while I could make it fit without removal I figured the best course was to remove.
The 14” setup with the Dead Air flash hider came out to 16.25” which I measured 3 times. You may find it interesting to know that a magpul barrel tool for the AR fits this barrel setup which is how I held it while tightening the flash hider.     
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:36:40 AM EDT
[#27]
Has anyone here added a QD swivel insert to the rear of a waffle stock? If so, what did you use? Years ago, GG&G offered a sling thing that required drilling two holes and put a QD on both sides. That wouldn’t work here, as it had a protruding lip on the underside for use with AR stocks, but something similar would if the mounting plates were flat. Looking for suggestions. I don’t particularly care for receiver mounted slings.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/14/2022 9:27:48 AM EDT
[#28]
 Bren 2: Every Aspect of the 805 Refined |
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GA, USA
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Posted: 2/14/2022 11:42:01 AM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LIONHART: Has anyone here added a QD swivel insert to the rear of a waffle stock? If so, what did you use? Years ago, GG&G offered a sling thing that required drilling two holes and put a QD on both sides. That wouldn’t work here, as it had a protruding lip on the underside for use with AR stocks, but something similar would if the mounting plates were flat. Looking for suggestions. I don’t particularly care for receiver mounted slings. Get the BR stock. https://www.euro-military.com/CZ-Bren-2-BR-Folding-Adjustable-Butt-Stock-d785.htm |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/14/2022 12:00:53 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By lordboogie: Get the BR stock. https://www.euro-military.com/CZ-Bren-2-BR-Folding-Adjustable-Butt-Stock-d785.htm I have the BR stocks, but I do sometimes prefer the aesthetics of the waffle over the BR, and for that reason, I’d like to add a QD socket to a few of them. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/14/2022 12:29:32 PM EDT
[#31]
You could always retrofit a Magpul QD point somehow to one…
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/14/2022 12:35:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: LIONHART]
[#32]
Quote HistoryYou could always retrofit a Magpul QD point somehow to one… I was thinking that, or recessing a Magpul Type 1 & 2. Thought I’d ask hoping for an easier alternative, but there doesn’t appear to be a screw on universal ambi QD sling mount on the market. 
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WI, USA
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:33:05 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LIONHART: I was thinking that, or recessing a Magpul Type 1 & 2. Thought I’d ask hoping for an easier alternative, but there doesn’t appear to be a screw on universal ambi QD sling mount on the market. If you don't mind drilling a hole in your stock.... https://grovtec.com/products/heavy-duty-push-button-bases |
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USA
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Posted: 2/14/2022 6:53:11 PM EDT
[#34]
I used that on an A2 stock...worked well...
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USA
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Posted: 2/15/2022 3:18:42 PM EDT
[#35]
I use a Magpul Type 1 which I drilled open for the specific thread.
You can use an european screw size (not sure the size. M5? M6?) and put it instead of the original pin.   |
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USA
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Posted: 2/15/2022 3:34:56 PM EDT
[#36]
Another easy DIY-mod I use:
Cutting foam in a T-shaped piece. Prevents alot of gas in the face.  
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USA
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Posted: 2/15/2022 3:43:47 PM EDT
[#37]
@kells81 how is that handguard? Any issues installing it or anything?
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Posted: 2/15/2022 3:51:33 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: @kells81 how is that handguard? Any issues installing it or anything? No issues at all on the install but I am thinking about picking up the other version that gives access to the valve/piston. |
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KY, USA
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Posted: 2/15/2022 3:59:30 PM EDT
[#39]
Can anyone confirm if the 7.62x39 Bren 2MS uses a "standard" are 7.62x39 AR extractor? Mine broke and CZ said "sorry can't tell you when we'll have them. So a SBR I have almost 3k in sits waiting.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/15/2022 7:43:04 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Cormu: I use a Magpul Type 1 which I drilled open for the specific thread. You can use an european screw size (not sure the size. M5? M6?) and put it instead of the original pin. https://bilderupload.org/image/thumbnail/resized-133b52657-img-20220215-200931.jpg https://bilderupload.org/image/thumbnail/resized-20c852706-img-20220215-200949.jpg I knew that I wasn’t the only one that wanted to add QD inserts to a waffle. Ideally, an ambi mount where the QD cups sat below the bridge, and retained by a cross bolt where the original roll pin is would be great. Another option would be drilling/recessing Magpul Type 1 & 2 cups in the upper portion of the stock, but that’s a bit more involved. |
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Posted: 2/15/2022 8:51:34 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By kells81: No issues at all on the install but I am thinking about picking up the other version that gives access to the valve/piston. @kells81 ... if you get rid of that rail you got ... let me know how much you'd want ... I hate the factory carbine OEM handguard and want to run a more squared off setup like the HBI 10.8" instead ... |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2022 8:29:36 AM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By richiemfmead: Can anyone confirm if the 7.62x39 Bren 2MS uses a "standard" are 7.62x39 AR extractor? Mine broke and CZ said "sorry can't tell you when we'll have them. So a SBR I have almost 3k in sits waiting. I believe they are proprietary to the Bren 2. At least you can join the club! I'm at almost 2 years on having a non functional Bren 2. 
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KY, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2022 8:50:29 AM EDT
[#43]
Ouch :(
Just when the SBR papers came back too 
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2022 9:54:35 AM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: @kells81 ... if you get rid of that rail you got ... let me know how much you'd want ... I hate the factory carbine OEM handguard and want to run a more squared off setup like the HBI 10.8" instead ... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Originally Posted By kells81: No issues at all on the install but I am thinking about picking up the other version that gives access to the valve/piston. @kells81 ... if you get rid of that rail you got ... let me know how much you'd want ... I hate the factory carbine OEM handguard and want to run a more squared off setup like the HBI 10.8" instead ... HB is working on a handguard for the carbine model. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/16/2022 10:25:36 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LIONHART: HB is working on a handguard for the carbine model. Really? How did I miss that announcement? |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2022 10:42:53 AM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Really? How did I miss that announcement? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thehun06: Originally Posted By LIONHART: HB is working on a handguard for the carbine model. Really? How did I miss that announcement? I don’t think there was one. Just keep an eye on their site. Personally, I like the OEM one, but we’ll see what HBI comes up with. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/16/2022 11:55:52 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By LIONHART: I don’t think there was one. Just keep an eye on their site. Personally, I like the OEM one, but we’ll see what HBI comes up with. Copy. I hate the OEM slant in the handguard. Squared off would have been so much better asthetically… |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2022 10:45:13 PM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shooter_from_show-me: Good stuff man @kells81 My son and I worked on the Bren 2Ms today after church service. HBI trigger, handguard and safety selectors. Aimpoint PRO and a folding side charger handle. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By shooter_from_show-me: Originally Posted By kells81: Ordered the stock kit and also a 10" HBI handguard for it. Good stuff man @kells81 My son and I worked on the Bren 2Ms today after church service. HBI trigger, handguard and safety selectors. Aimpoint PRO and a folding side charger handle. Who makes that folding charging handle? |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/17/2022 6:17:38 PM EDT
[#49]
If any of you guys are so in love with your Bren 2 that your 805 S1 pistol has been relegated to the back of the safe, please email me. I’m looking for a black one.
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Posted: 2/20/2022 5:06:24 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JackwagonJim: Who makes that folding charging handle? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JackwagonJim: Originally Posted By shooter_from_show-me: Originally Posted By kells81: Ordered the stock kit and also a 10" HBI handguard for it. Good stuff man @kells81 My son and I worked on the Bren 2Ms today after church service. HBI trigger, handguard and safety selectors. Aimpoint PRO and a folding side charger handle. Who makes that folding charging handle? @JackwagonJim Guy on Reddit in the Bren2 subforum makes and sells small batches of them. He's out of CA. I'll see if I can get his info and forward it to if you'd like. |
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