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KY, USA
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Posted: 2/10/2021 3:46:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flthy_McNsty: It appears you can order regardless if they are in-stock or not. Did you order it while it was in-stock, or did you just place your order and wait until they came it? The "order" is actually a "backorder" and they are shipped as the orders are received as they receive them from the manufacturer. FilthyMcnasty, kind of.... ATF NFA markings have to be on the barrel or receiver/frame. Europe defines "receiver or frame" as the "pressure containing module", hence why CZ pistols have their serials engraved on the slide/barrel. USA ATF dictates the "frame or receiver" as the device that contains the fire control group. Hence why CZ handguns have S/N stamped slides/barrels but American made (non imported) firearms do not. Best conclusion I've been able to make based on my research anyways, hence why I asked. |
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Posted: 2/11/2021 8:24:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By rlbuzz: Like others have said https://www.cz-parts.com/cz-bren-2-stock-complete-37s-a I ordered one about three weeks ago and it arrived in just over one week. When I ordered mine it was $155 plus $25 shipping. Very reasonable. I see now that the stock is currently out of stock as of 2/10 but the price has jumped to $195 plus shipping, which is the same price as the carbine stock. Not happy with the price increase but it's still reasonable considering the possibility that if biden cuts off foreign imports of gun parts as he is threatening, it might not be available at all in the future. Whether the stock is in stock or not, you can still order it and it will be shipped when it is available, which seems to be pretty regularly. Yep. I've had two BR stocks on order for over a month. |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 2/12/2021 8:26:13 PM EDT
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https://www.reuters.com/article/czg-colt-idUSL1N2KH3HO
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Posted: 2/13/2021 9:39:53 AM EDT
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Would this be a way in for .gov contracts? Sig has been stealing the thunder lately, but CZ acquiring a brand like Colt, with its long history within our .mil.
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Posted: 2/13/2021 1:50:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fivepointoh: Would this be a way in for .gov contracts? Sig has been stealing the thunder lately, but CZ acquiring a brand like Colt, with its long history within our .mil. It certainly would give them a better foothold at getting it done. I know they used to require US facilities to produce small arms, which is where we got Beretta and FN setting up large US plants to produce the M9, M249, M240, M2, M4, and M16. That said, with the M17/M18 settled, they're not going to be winning any big handgun tenders. We've seen the multiple goat ropes that have come from trying to replace the M4/M16 that leave everyone with blue balls. I don't think the NGSW is going to end up being a huge replacement program, more like a specialized solution to the "using old M14s for everything sucks" problem they have. From a .gov standpoint, I could see them trying to revitalize Colt's M4/M16 production to make them competitive in those contracts again. Maybe take the innovation from Colt Canada and bring it to the US. They've stagnated, have extreme labor costs, and are using tired equipment. If CZ swoops in and breathes life into that, they could be very successful in military and law enforcement again. Commercially, they've been successful with their Dan Wesson lines. Colt's been sitting on a gold mine with the Python and Anaconda while they're too busy trying to run the rest of their business into the ground. Competing in the basic AR market is a race to the bottom now, but again, they could take a lot of the innovation on the Colt Canada side and bring it to the US commercial market. I don't need another basic M4 but some of the newer designs would be pretty enticing. Aside from the Bren 2 at $2k, CZ is not competing in the semi auto rifle space very aggressively. Having a US factory to produce Bren 2s would be advantageous as well. I think FN and IWI have proven you can sell semi auto designs at multiple price points without eating into your own markets. |
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/13/2021 2:15:35 PM EDT
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Anyone with the 2020 7.62 2S know what the thread pitch is? Apparently CZ themselves cant give me the answer.
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GA, USA
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Posted: 2/13/2021 2:24:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By richiemfmead: The "order" is actually a "backorder" and they are shipped as the orders are received as they receive them from the manufacturer. FilthyMcnasty, kind of.... ATF NFA markings have to be on the barrel or receiver/frame. Europe defines "receiver or frame" as the "pressure containing module", hence why CZ pistols have their serials engraved on the slide/barrel. USA ATF dictates the "frame or receiver" as the device that contains the fire control group. Hence why CZ handguns have S/N stamped slides/barrels but American made (non imported) firearms do not. Best conclusion I've been able to make based on my research anyways, hence why I asked. Sort of. NFA marking can be on 1 of 4 different named components, separated by commas. Barrel, slide, frame, receiver. The ATF is all over the place as to what constitutes the receiver. We have a actual legal definition, but AR lower receivers do not fit that definition, so legally should not be considered firearms receivers. But the ATF has decided they are, so they are the serialized part of the gun. Except in the case of when guns are built using an AR lower and then an upper than supplies its own magazine, like a 50MBG or 5.7mm using P90 mags. In that case, the upper in the firearm, and what is the lower? And then you have guns like the thompson, which was the popular gun when the NFA was signed into law, and one of the main motivators for the NFA. According to all the technical drawings and plans, the receiver is the bigass block of steel that houses the bolt and where the magazine attaches and the barrel screws on. The frame is a completely different part. It is the part that houses the fire control components. The serialized part of the tommy gun is the receiver. The gun does have separate frame, barrel, and receiver, and according to The Man, any of those parts are allowed to be used for NFA engraving. And according to the drawings and diagrams for the CZ scorpion, the part everybody calls a bolt is actually called the "slide", and the bolt catch is called the "slide stop". Therefore, if one were inclined, they could do their NFA engraving on the scorpion evo's bolt, and still be within the letter of the law as far as the ATF goes. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/14/2021 12:23:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Findsman: It certainly would give them a better foothold at getting it done. I know they used to require US facilities to produce small arms, which is where we got Beretta and FN setting up large US plants to produce the M9, M249, M240, M2, M4, and M16. That said, with the M17/M18 settled, they're not going to be winning any big handgun tenders. We've seen the multiple goat ropes that have come from trying to replace the M4/M16 that leave everyone with blue balls. I don't think the NGSW is going to end up being a huge replacement program, more like a specialized solution to the "using old M14s for everything sucks" problem they have. From a .gov standpoint, I could see them trying to revitalize Colt's M4/M16 production to make them competitive in those contracts again. Maybe take the innovation from Colt Canada and bring it to the US. They've stagnated, have extreme labor costs, and are using tired equipment. If CZ swoops in and breathes life into that, they could be very successful in military and law enforcement again. Commercially, they've been successful with their Dan Wesson lines. Colt's been sitting on a gold mine with the Python and Anaconda while they're too busy trying to run the rest of their business into the ground. Competing in the basic AR market is a race to the bottom now, but again, they could take a lot of the innovation on the Colt Canada side and bring it to the US commercial market. I don't need another basic M4 but some of the newer designs would be pretty enticing. Aside from the Bren 2 at $2k, CZ is not competing in the semi auto rifle space very aggressively. Having a US factory to produce Bren 2s would be advantageous as well. I think FN and IWI have proven you can sell semi auto designs at multiple price points without eating into your own markets. The first order of business should be for CZ to get Colt the fuck out of CT and move the whole kit & kaboodle down to Arkansas. As the Small Arms Solutions guy says, Colt has already run off all their top engineers and management and the workers are firmly entrenched in unions operating antiquated equipment. The libtard Northeast is a toxic environment for any gun manufacturer. |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/14/2021 2:44:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By apocalypserisin: Anyone with the 2020 7.62 2S know what the thread pitch is? Apparently CZ themselves cant give me the answer. 14x1 LH |
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Posted: 2/15/2021 1:01:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By apocalypserisin: Anyone with the 2020 7.62 2S know what the thread pitch is? Apparently CZ themselves cant give me the answer. I can actually personally verify they made them in different thread pitches probably depending on the barrel length. I have a 2S 14" that is 1/2x28 (yes, you read that correctly) and I have a 2S 11" that is 14x1LH. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/15/2021 2:00:11 PM EDT
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I did this upgrade for my 11"inch 5.56. It made it shoot a lot softer suppressed and I wasn't getting as much gas into my face as before (on the regular setting).
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Posted: 2/15/2021 5:51:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By zoutou86: I did this upgrade for my 11"inch 5.56. It made it shoot a lot softer suppressed and I wasn't getting as much gas into my face as before (on the regular setting). What upgrade? |
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OR, USA
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Posted: 2/15/2021 7:04:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Kian503]
[#13]
My 2019 14" 2MS X39 FTE Machine is 5/8x24.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2021 1:29:54 AM EDT
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My 2020 2S is 11", guess I'll try and throw on my 14x1 slant brake from my AK to see if it fits, if I ever even get to see the gun again.
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OH, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2021 3:29:06 AM EDT
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Has anyone here elected to exchange their x39 gun for a 5.56 model? If so, has CZ fulfilled the offer yet?
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Posted: 2/16/2021 4:13:18 PM EDT
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Yes and yes. My 11 inch 5.56 runs like a.top.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2021 4:33:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By armoredman: Yes and yes. My 11 inch 5.56 runs like a.top. Would you or do you choose your 11" 5.56 Bren 2 as your go to weapon of choice over a high end ar15 or any other available weapon? |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 5:39:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MagnusActual]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JuanCarlos: Would you or do you choose your 11" 5.56 Bren 2 as your go to weapon of choice over a high end ar15 or any other available weapon? I don't see why not. I have a few 5.56mm Brens and they have all functioned flawlessly With that said, I also have other options... |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 2/16/2021 5:50:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By armoredman: Yes and yes. My 11 inch 5.56 runs like a.top. Awesome. How long did it take them? I opted for the exchange and gave them the info about a week ago, figured I’d probably be waiting another month or two at least. |
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Posted: 2/16/2021 6:17:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Flthy_McNsty]
[#20]
For those that may have ordered recently or are thinking about ordering from CZ-Parts.com, I received shipping notification for the #37S-B stock I ordered last week. I never saw it show in stock though. So they may be drop shipping them.
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VA, USA
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Posted: 2/17/2021 1:01:17 AM EDT
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Would've never guessed I would be getting a Bren 2 BR stock at a reasonable price before I got my gun back from CZ, but here we are.
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/17/2021 1:52:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Sweet5ltr]
[#22]
Looks like Zack has left the chat. CZ-USA could at least provide some sense of courtesy and mass-email those who returned their Bren 2's a weekly update or status.
My Bren 2S is sitting in the safe, waiting like everyone else for the 'warranty fix' - whatever that may be - to be finalized, along with SPARE PARTS! If it was a normal 2Ms, it would have been returned for a full refund a long time ago. This company essentially left us all in the dark during one of the most critical time periods in US history. |
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Posted: 2/17/2021 3:19:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: armoredman]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JuanCarlos: Would you or do you choose your 11" 5.56 Bren 2 as your go to weapon of choice over a high end ar15 or any other available weapon? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JuanCarlos: Would you or do you choose your 11" 5.56 Bren 2 as your go to weapon of choice over a high end ar15 or any other available weapon? Right now? No, not until I get about another 100-200 flawless rounds through it. So far it has been doing exactly as advertised. Today was another 50, while my best friend used up some more reloads in my P-10C. Once I get enough through it to be satisfied with it's performance, as I would any firearm, AND get rid of that crappy green dot SIG MSR and replace it with a solid Romer5, then yes, I wouldn't have any problem as a go to, as it is light, comfortable and so far, reliable.  Attached File80 yards off hand with said green dot - I had a REALLY nice group from the very first run, but of course I painted it over waiting for a better one. This was average. Target is 3/4 scale IDPA. Of course according to the internet, I can't shoot at all, and should be relegated to the shallow end of the gene pool.  Attached FileHonestly, I think my biggest problem with this firearm is the dot. Other than that, it is just as advertised. Awesome. How long did it take them? I opted for the exchange and gave them the info about a week ago, figured I’d probably be waiting another month or two at least. I jumped in early and it was a few months. Stuff isn't coming in as fast as anyone would like from the Czech Republic, and a LOT of attention has been focused on the Colt acquisition. |
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OH, USA
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Posted: 2/17/2021 3:38:10 PM EDT
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Okay, thanks. I expected it to be at least a month or two. Hopefully that’s all it is!
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OR, USA
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Posted: 2/17/2021 10:14:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sweet5ltr: Looks like Zack has left the chat. CZ-USA could at least provide some sense of courtesy and mass-email those who returned their Bren 2's a weekly update or status. My Bren 2S is sitting in the safe, waiting like everyone else for the 'warranty fix' - whatever that may be - to be finalized, along with SPARE PARTS! If it was a normal 2Ms, it would have been returned for a full refund a long time ago. This company essentially left us all in the dark during one of the most critical time periods in US history. https://hongkongfp.com/2021/02/16/hong-kong-police-buy-firearms-from-czech-supplier-after-us-order-blocked-by-sanctions-report/ CZ is too busy buying Colt and selling Scorpions to the Hong Kong Police too worry about us. |
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WI, USA
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Posted: 2/17/2021 10:47:54 PM EDT
[#26]
What!!!! I ordered the same stock from them 3-4 weeks ago, and I haven't heard anything. I will have to give them a call tomorrow. When I placed the order, they didn't take payment information, I thought that was strange. Did you have the same experience?
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Posted: 2/17/2021 11:37:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MKEman: What!!!! I ordered the same stock from them 3-4 weeks ago, and I haven't heard anything. I will have to give them a call tomorrow. When I placed the order, they didn't take payment information, I thought that was strange. Did you have the same experience? Their payment process is a bit weird. When I ordered, I basically went through an online shopping cart checkout process but like you, they did not collect any payment information during it. You only select a "Online Payment" option. Then after I completed that process by clicking the "Finish the order" button, I was taken to a 3rd party payment processor by the name of Barion to complete my payment with a Credit Card. |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 2/18/2021 10:56:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flthy_McNsty: Their payment process is a bit weird. When I ordered, I basically went through an online shopping cart checkout process but like you, they did not collect any payment information during it. You only select a "Online Payment" option. Then after I completed that process by clicking the "Finish the order" button, I was taken to a 3rd party payment processor by the name of Barion to complete my payment with a Credit Card. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Flthy_McNsty: Originally Posted By MKEman: What!!!! I ordered the same stock from them 3-4 weeks ago, and I haven't heard anything. I will have to give them a call tomorrow. When I placed the order, they didn't take payment information, I thought that was strange. Did you have the same experience? Their payment process is a bit weird. When I ordered, I basically went through an online shopping cart checkout process but like you, they did not collect any payment information during it. You only select a "Online Payment" option. Then after I completed that process by clicking the "Finish the order" button, I was taken to a 3rd party payment processor by the name of Barion to complete my payment with a Credit Card. I had the same problem and was never sent payment information and there was no link to 'online payment'. I emailed their customer service and they replied that they have had problems with their payment service and that I should reorder. The second attempt sent me to Barion payment processing as was earlier reported. After completing the payment process, all went smoothly. |
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Posted: 2/20/2021 12:03:46 PM EDT
[#29]
There is a 2MS carbine in the EE. I requested a picture from the seller with his name written beside it and he sent me this.
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CT, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2021 12:04:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: vectorsc]
[#30]
Anyone else have this wear pattern starting in their receiver extension?
Mine is beating the fuck out of itself. I think that one lug is 30% gone now and another is damaged 10%. 11” 2MS 556. 1500 rounds. 
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Posted: 2/20/2021 12:15:17 PM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jaqufrost: There is a 2MS carbine in the EE. I requested a picture from the seller with his name written beside it and he sent me this. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/57761/image_123927839_JPG-1833381.JPG Why does it have MBUS sights instead of the factory CZ troy copies? |
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Posted: 2/20/2021 12:18:27 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thearmschest: Why does it have MBUS sights instead of the factory CZ troy copies? |
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Posted: 2/20/2021 12:21:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jaqufrost: No idea, as it's not mine. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By jaqufrost: Originally Posted By thearmschest: Why does it have MBUS sights instead of the factory CZ troy copies? I realize that. Was just making an observation based on the pic you posted. The missing factory sights would be something to consider prior to purchasing as they are substantially more expensive than the MBUS shown in the pic. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2021 12:43:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vectorsc: Anyone else have this wear pattern starting in their receiver extension? Mine is beating the fuck out of itself. I think that one lug is 30% gone now and another is damaged 10%. 11” 2MS 556. 1500 rounds. https://i.postimg.cc/CMjt09MG/F4-E56575-C86-E-4566-BFB0-D47103-C89153.jpg Interesting, hadn't looked until you posted this but I'm starting to see wear in the same spots on my 8" 556. Mine only has 600 or so rounds through it at this point but its definitely starting. 
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Posted: 2/20/2021 12:53:15 PM EDT
[#35]
Hmm, interesting. Mine only has 100 through it so far, will check to see if anything is starting to show.
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CT, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2021 1:06:56 PM EDT
[#36]
Just asked another Bren buddy if his was doing it. He’s a collector so he mostly doesn’t shoot his.
This was his answer. 
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Posted: 2/20/2021 4:06:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vectorsc: Anyone else have this wear pattern starting in their receiver extension? Mine is beating the fuck out of itself. I think that one lug is 30% gone now and another is damaged 10%. 11" 2MS 556. 1500 rounds. https://i.postimg.cc/CMjt09MG/F4-E56575-C86-E-4566-BFB0-D47103-C89153.jpg Shit just keeps getting worse for CZ on these bad boys... How's the bolt lugs looking like? |
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CT, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2021 4:38:11 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Johnny_Longslide: Shit just keeps getting worse for CZ on these bad boys... How's the bolt lugs looking like? I’ll look later this week when I get back to work. I don’t like what I’m seeing so far. |
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Posted: 2/20/2021 5:11:36 PM EDT
[#39]
Ffs. Maybe I'll just hang mine on the wall for deco instead of shooting them.
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Posted: 2/20/2021 5:19:30 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MagnusActual]
[#40]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mk4dubbin: Ffs. Maybe I'll just hang mine on the wall for deco instead of shooting them. Hmm, offload now or shoot until destruction... (Don't think new barrels, bolts, etc. are in our near future or if ever at this point) |
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Posted: 2/20/2021 6:44:28 PM EDT
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Fuck my life. I just sold my LWRC SMG 45 due to all the issues. I have the CZ Bren 2s w14" barrel in 5.56 and the CZ Bren 2MS carbine. Have about 300 rounds down the pipe of the Bren 2s and just checked only to find some slight damage to one lug already starting. What the fuck already? I just cant win. Thinking about dumping all CZ, but what to get in place of them?
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WA, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2021 8:27:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Magsz18: My former 2019 production gun was running a 1.69mm port. My new 2020 is running a 1.65mm port. To note, my 2019 gun was measured at 5100+ rounds so there may have been some erosion. I'm not sure if there is a port size difference. @Magsz18 Can we see the barrel extension and bolt of your Bren 2 with 5100 rounds? |
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Posted: 2/20/2021 8:39:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MagnusActual]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By thearmschest: Fuck my life. I just sold my LWRC SMG 45 due to all the issues. I have the CZ Bren 2s w14" barrel in 5.56 and the CZ Bren 2MS carbine. Have about 300 rounds down the pipe of the Bren 2s and just checked only to find some slight damage to one lug already starting. What the fuck already? I just cant win. Thinking about dumping all CZ, but what to get in place of them? I have an 11.5" Sig Virtus, PWS MK111 plus an 11" Robinson XCR on the way for all my piston needs... I've already decided to ditch the Brens... |
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Posted: 2/20/2021 8:58:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Johnny_Longslide: I have an 11.5" Sig Virtus, PWS MK111 plus an 11" Robinson XCR on the way for all my piston needs... I've already decided to ditch the Brens... Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Johnny_Longslide: Originally Posted By thearmschest: Fuck my life. I just sold my LWRC SMG 45 due to all the issues. I have the CZ Bren 2s w14" barrel in 5.56 and the CZ Bren 2MS carbine. Have about 300 rounds down the pipe of the Bren 2s and just checked only to find some slight damage to one lug already starting. What the fuck already? I just cant win. Thinking about dumping all CZ, but what to get in place of them? I have an 11.5" Sig Virtus, PWS MK111 plus an 11" Robinson XCR on the way for all my piston needs... I've already decided to ditch the Brens... Yeah...already looking for replacements. As a huge fan of CZ...this breaks my heart. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 2/20/2021 9:52:27 PM EDT
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Interesting to see pictures of guns with locking lug gouging issue.
I only have about 1000rds through my Bren 2 5.56 14" gun and the lug still looks perfect. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/20/2021 9:53:10 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Johnny_Longslide: I have an 11.5" Sig Virtus, PWS MK111 plus an 11" Robinson XCR on the way for all my piston needs... I've already decided to ditch the Brens... Do you like the Virtus better than a high end ar? |
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Posted: 2/20/2021 10:17:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MagnusActual]
[#47]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gonnasellstuff: Do you like the Virtus better than a high end ar? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gonnasellstuff: Originally Posted By Johnny_Longslide: I have an 11.5" Sig Virtus, PWS MK111 plus an 11" Robinson XCR on the way for all my piston needs... I've already decided to ditch the Brens... Do you like the Virtus better than a high end ar? I have to say yes. I have been very impressed by the Virtus, until the Robinson shows up anyway... I'm hoping for very good things from the XCR With that said, I still like my Triarc DI guns, but the Virtus and even the PWS is really where it's at for me. |
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USA
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Posted: 2/20/2021 10:25:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Johnny_Longslide: I have to say yes. I have been very impressed by the Virtus, until the Robinson shows up anyway... I'm hoping for very good things from the XCR With that said, I still like my Triarc DI guns, but the Virtus and even the PWS is really where it's at for me. I heard the Virtus was really front end heavy but a great gun. Right now my go to is Knights Armament Sr-15 11.5". Great guns. My Bren 2 with 8000 rounds has near zero wear on the lugs or barrel extension and has been flawless but concerning how Cz has treated its customers. :( |
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Posted: 2/20/2021 10:50:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By gonnasellstuff: I heard the Virtus was really front end heavy but a great gun. Right now my go to is Knights Armament Sr-15 11.5". Great guns. My Bren 2 with 8000 rounds has near zero wear on the lugs or barrel extension and has been flawless but concerning how Cz has treated its customers. :( It's really not that bad plus the heavier front helps keep the gun on target. It takes some getting used to, but it works quite well. I like the Brens but I'm cutting my losses. I have the wear on the lugs on two guns already. It's not as bad as the others posted but it's there. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 2/21/2021 9:12:41 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Sweet5ltr]
[#50]
CZ is basically going to warranty replace these entire pistols before this is over.
I would never consider a Bren 2 in 5.56. LMT, Geissele, Knights, there are too many proven manufactures here in the US with outstanding customer service. |
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