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Posted: 9/16/2017 8:05:06 AM EDT
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do you shoot more at +500yds that closer??
I don't invest time/money in oddball calibres unless I can get my investment back. I can get cheapish/decent 308 and I mostly shoot at ranges where 6.5 does not "beat" 7.62. |
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Posted: 9/16/2017 9:07:17 AM EDT
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do you shoot more at +500yds that closer?? I don't invest time/money in oddball calibres unless I can get my investment back. I can get cheapish/decent 308 and I mostly shoot at ranges where 6.5 does not "beat" 7.62. That said, maybe a switch to a 6.5 Grendal over one of my 6.8 SPC is in order............ |
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Posted: 9/16/2017 9:36:17 AM EDT
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Good point. My club's range extends to 600 yards, so may the 6.5 CM does not hold much benefit over the .308. That said, maybe a switch to a 6.5 Grendal over one of my 6.8 SPC is in order............ |
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Posted: 9/16/2017 9:37:52 AM EDT
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When I got my 6.5CM, I didn't have any other bolt guns or any guns chambered in .308 or comparable calibers.
Match ammo in 6.5CM vs. .308 is comparably priced, so no advantage there. There is no blasting ammo in 6.5CM, but that's not the role of the gun or the caliber. One advantage I see is that 6.5CM has less recoil than .308, given similar rifles. Over a day of shooting, that can make a difference. There is anecdotal evidence that an average 6.5CM rifle is more accurate than an average .308Win rifle. But, there are outliers on both sides there. At 100 yards, .223 Rem will get the job done poking holes in paper just as well. |
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Posted: 9/16/2017 10:32:05 AM EDT
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Beyond 500 yards, the 6.5 caliber is king. Like most, I started with .308 for long range. That was a big mistake, I now know. The 6.5 bullets just fly so much better and remain supersonic so much further than the .30 pills.
I don't share the group love for the Creedmore, as it duplicates the ballistics of other rounds that have been around a lot longer. One of the guys who shoots 1K yard with use sometimes brings his 6.5x55 swede for the day's competition. When winds are light, he's apt to win! I don't think you're missing a thing by not having a Creedmore. You are out of the loop, however, if you are not shooting something in 6.5mm, IMHO. |
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Posted: 9/17/2017 10:23:31 AM EDT
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I'd consider a complete upper in 6.5CM... IMHO, the 6.5CM has merit for those longer shots.
With a complete upper you can have both the more economical .308 and a better over 600yd round from your current AR. Everyone always talks about the bullet drop between the two.... but rarely talks about the difference in wind drift. IMHO, the much less bullet drift factor is the key to enjoying the 6.5CM.... I think the improved bullet drift is part of the key to the 6.5CM stellar accuracy. The 6.5CM is going to have less barrel life... but will have a better drift hit ratio over the .308.... so IMHO, the barrel life figures are slightly misinterpreted. ( not quite the right word ) Anyhow... just food for thought ... IMHO, the 6.5CM currently fills the longer range AR platform role... it has displaced the .308 past 600yds. ( not trying to start a .308 v. 6.5CM war... just saying the 6.5CM can do it better ) This chart shows what I mean.... from here... http://precisionrifleblog.com/2015/04/25/how-much-does-cartridge-matter/ 
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Posted: 9/17/2017 10:42:03 AM EDT
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When I got my 6.5CM, I didn't have any other bolt guns or any guns chambered in .308 or comparable calibers. Match ammo in 6.5CM vs. .308 is comparably priced, so no advantage there. There is no blasting ammo in 6.5CM, but that's not the role of the gun or the caliber. One advantage I see is that 6.5CM has less recoil than .308, given similar rifles. Over a day of shooting, that can make a difference. There is anecdotal evidence that an average 6.5CM rifle is more accurate than an average .308Win rifle. But, there are outliers on both sides there. At 100 yards, .223 Rem will get the job done poking holes in paper just as well. I think the Creedmoor is an easier cartridge to shoot accurately. Less fatigue due to recoil. Less wind drift (as mentioned above). If all you ever intend to do is shoot out 500yds, you'll benefit with a Creedmoor, but the cost may not be worth the benefits. Shooting at 300yds is boring with a 6.5. At 500 yds, nice groups are easy. When the beans and corn are out of the fields, we're going to move it out to 1k and beyond. We're just looking for a challenge. |
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