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Originally Posted By 556Cliff: I'm getting Crickets on the email I sent Shooting Sight about it... Odd because they're usually pretty quick to respond. I really like the trigger, it feels probably about what a Geissele SSA feels like. I need to get out and see what my groups look like at 100 yards, but so far I don't notice much improved accuracy in using it at 50 yards on my recent sight in attempt with the UH-1. Though the trigger does make it easier to concentrate since you aren't fighting a 10 pound pull weight making you think you left the safety on. I'm not sure if I should just continue to use it to see if the peening on the edges of the hammer channel on the back of the bolt gets worse or if I should give up while I'm ahead and go back to the stock trigger just to avoid further damaging the bolt. To me it seems like the issue is probably occurring because the hammer isn't perfectly centered in the lower receiver, and with the way that the bolt cams when unlocking to chamber the next round it forces the hammer off to the right side of the lower. This can't happen with the stock hammer because there is no play side to side in the lower with that green plastic insert that surrounds the hammer. I'm really not sure that I feel super comfortable about continuing to use the Shooting Sight trigger. View Quote Any updates from Shooting Sight? |
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Originally Posted By sdrake100: Any updates from Shooting Sight? View Quote Nothing yet. I should probably try contacting them again. Edit: I just contacted them again using the form on their website, so I guess I'll see if that works. Last time I sent an email with pictures attached and it might have went straight into their junk email. |
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Originally Posted By Terraericthys: https://i.imgur.com/di6hdrX.jpg A few people earlier here mentioned peening due to the ShootingSight Trigger. I don't think the issue is unique to ShootingSight as the issue has happened to my ARX with the OEM trigger. Here's a picture of the back of my bolt. I've only fired about 3-4k rounds since I picked it up a few years ago. Now, the question is has the peening caused an issue? Well... Idk? My ARX has still been very reliable to this day. One day around 2k rounds in I went to clean it which I didn't do very often when initially. What I discovered is that the firing pin would not drop out as the peening by the hammer had actually staked it in place to the point where the firing pin's travel was slightly reduced. I don't think it was enough to create a fixed pin that would slam fire upon the bolt closing but you never know. What I did from that discovery on is remove any peening in the area with a file or rotary tool. Now it doesn't happen any more though it took probably about a dozen range trips of repeating this process to make it stop. View Quote Is yours the SBR model or the standard 16" barreled model? I imagine the wear might be accelerated with the shorter barrel. That's actually good to see though, since I was hoping it wasn't anything to do with the Shooting Sight trigger. As I showed in the pictures a page or two back I'm seeing some wear in the same area on my second ARX that only has the factory trigger, but it probably only has about 150 rounds on it at most. I only have a couple hundred rounds fired with the SS trigger in my first ARX, so most of the wear or peening probably happened with the factory trigger before a changed it out. I probably have less than a thousand rounds through my first ARX altogether. I don't get out to shoot very often unfortunately. Shooting Sight has not gotten back to me about the wear pattern, but looking at yours it must be somewhat normal. |
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Originally Posted By Terraericthys: https://i.imgur.com/jjW5llC.jpg I mainly use the 10.3” barrel for all of my shooting which is noticeably harsher than the 16” on the action. Could be why I have such bad luck with optics and even those Magpul irons? Here’s another comparison; The bolt on the left (dirty) is new with less than 500 rounds through it. The bolt on the right has between 3-4K rounds through it. Looks about the same. Again, using the OEM trigger. So, I’m going to say the peening in normal. Also, that’s interesting about ShootingSight not getting back to you. I’ve emailed them before and they were fairly quick to respond. Since we’re at it, here are some more pictures comparing a bolt and barrel with less than 500 rounds vs one with 3-4K rounds. Note: I almost immediately purchased and used the 10.3” barrel (10.31” is what I measured from bolt face to muzzle) when I acquired this rifle. The 16” barrel only has around 1k rounds through it. https://i.imgur.com/jafNIp1.jpg Left is the 16”. Right is the 10.3” https://i.imgur.com/ACe9aHw.jpg Left is the new bolt. Right is the old one—notice the rear of the lugs. I can’t be sure what caused this though i only noticed after using the 10.3” barre. It’s never gotten any worse though. I do plan to send it in to Beretta for warranty and hopefully replacement before it expires just to be safe. I’ll post about it when I do. https://i.imgur.com/VvupLvS.jpg Gas block on the 10.3” certainly leaks and happens immediately. Maybe hard to see but there’s carbon buildup on it. I’ve never noticed this happen on the 16”. I’ve even swapped them and the case was the same. https://i.imgur.com/EiGKAIZ.jpg Left new, right old. Bolt face on both appears the same and I haven’t noticed any sort of unusual wear. https://i.imgur.com/A4Hngtu.jpg And just because I see it asked about all the time, here’s a view of the gas ports on the 10.3” and 16” barrels. View Quote Thanks for the detailed pictures! Especially the pics of the gas ports. I think with that I'm going to stop worrying about the wear I'm seeing on mine now. I've had good experiences with Shooting Sight CS not all that long ago... Not sure what's going on over there the last few weeks, but maybe it's just the holidays. I haven't experienced any issues with reliability, but I don't have that many rounds on the SS trigger. At some point I still might replace the factory triggers in my 2 other ARX's, but for now I'm just keeping them stock and holding out as long as I can. |
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Originally Posted By Terraericthys: https://i.imgur.com/jjW5llC.jpg I mainly use the 10.3” barrel for all of my shooting which is noticeably harsher than the 16” on the action. Could be why I have such bad luck with optics and even those Magpul irons? Here’s another comparison; The bolt on the left (dirty) is new with less than 500 rounds through it. The bolt on the right has between 3-4K rounds through it. Looks about the same. Again, using the OEM trigger. So, I’m going to say the peening in normal. Also, that’s interesting about ShootingSight not getting back to you. I’ve emailed them before and they were fairly quick to respond. Since we’re at it, here are some more pictures comparing a bolt and barrel with less than 500 rounds vs one with 3-4K rounds. Note: I almost immediately purchased and used the 10.3” barrel (10.31” is what I measured from bolt face to muzzle) when I acquired this rifle. The 16” barrel only has around 1k rounds through it. https://i.imgur.com/jafNIp1.jpg Left is the 16”. Right is the 10.3” https://i.imgur.com/ACe9aHw.jpg Left is the new bolt. Right is the old one—notice the rear of the lugs. I can’t be sure what caused this though i only noticed after using the 10.3” barre. It’s never gotten any worse though. I do plan to send it in to Beretta for warranty and hopefully replacement before it expires just to be safe. I’ll post about it when I do. https://i.imgur.com/VvupLvS.jpg Gas block on the 10.3” certainly leaks and happens immediately. Maybe hard to see but there’s carbon buildup on it. I’ve never noticed this happen on the 16”. I’ve even swapped them and the case was the same. https://i.imgur.com/EiGKAIZ.jpg Left new, right old. Bolt face on both appears the same and I haven’t noticed any sort of unusual wear. https://i.imgur.com/A4Hngtu.jpg And just because I see it asked about all the time, here’s a view of the gas ports on the 10.3” and 16” barrels. View Quote My bolt looks like that too, with the stock trigger. Any pictures of the barrels with the barrel extensions removed? |
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Originally Posted By homeyclaus: My bolt looks like that too, with the stock trigger. Any pictures of the barrels with the barrel extensions removed? View Quote Scroll down here. > https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Beretta-ARX-100-owners-sanity-check-please-/2-519325/ |
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Seems like they could be nitriding things to get better wear protection but companies do planned obsolescence.
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Did these dry up? Only 1 cheap one on GB right now.
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Originally Posted By Citizen904: Did these dry up? Only 1 cheap one on GB right now. View Quote Arms Unlimited was recently selling some. It was marked as "out of production." I'm not sure that means PERMANENTLY out of production as Beretta tends to produce things in waves. But who knows. Been a long time since we've seen any 10.5 barrels. |
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I've got a 10.5" factory SBR. What muzzle devices would you gents recommend? Anybody using something besides the factory flash hider? Is it true that the factory A2's are cranked on really tight?
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Originally Posted By sdrake100: I've got a 10.5" factory SBR. What muzzle devices would you gents recommend? Anybody using something besides the factory flash hider? Is it true that the factory A2's are cranked on really tight? View Quote I removed the factory installed A2s on all three of mine and they all came off easy as they should. I replaced the A2s with A1 bird cage flash suppressors to remove the whipping effect imparted through the slight compensation ability of the A2. I originally wanted to install Smith Vortex G6A4s, but I was concerned about their self tightening design that would impart a twisting force on the barrel through firing that would potentially be transferred into and through the ARX's somewhat unsupported and floaty QD barrel system. Not sure what I'd recommend for the SBR, but I'd think a good flash suppressor (maybe something like a B.E. Meyers 249F) should be on the list to consider. Of course I know they don't make those anymore... Maybe go with the YHM Phantom? |
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I’m still using the A2 Flash Hider that came on my 10.25” barrel. When I first removed mine it was definitely on there tight. Remove the barrel and place it on a vise. Do not wedge it between your legs while it is installed in the receiver. I’ve come across a post on Facebook where a guy did just this and now claims he has a lot of play and twist in his barrel that wasn’t previously there. On the 10.25 I actually clamp down on the barrel extension nut. This was to break torque the first time. On the 16” I just clamp down on the barrel a head of the gas block to tighten and break torque that way I don’t risk shearing off the piston if the barrel just happens to rotate in the vise. For a while I used a Griffin Taper Mount 3 Prong which was very effective but I swapped that out to another rifle. Now I’m back to using the A2 Birdcage but am probably going to install a Griffin Gate-LOK 3 Prong Flash Hider. Maybe even get their Gen 2 Gate-LOK Blast Shield for it. I just wouldn’t use a comp or muzzle break of any kind as it is already loud enough as it is.
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Originally Posted By Terraericthys:I actually clamp down on the barrel extension nut. View Quote This seems like a terrible idea versus clamping on the barrel itself in between the extension nut and the gas block. For reference... https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Bought-a-used-Beretta-ARX100-and-have-a-couple-questions--barrel-not-symmetrical-/2-523871/ Another... https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Beretta-ARX-100-owners-sanity-check-please-/2-519325/ |
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Originally Posted By CJofFL: This seems like a terrible idea versus clamping on the barrel itself in between the extension nut and the gas block. For reference... https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Bought-a-used-Beretta-ARX100-and-have-a-couple-questions--barrel-not-symmetrical-/2-523871/ Another... https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Beretta-ARX-100-owners-sanity-check-please-/2-519325/ View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CJofFL: Originally Posted By Terraericthys:I actually clamp down on the barrel extension nut. This seems like a terrible idea versus clamping on the barrel itself in between the extension nut and the gas block. For reference... https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Bought-a-used-Beretta-ARX100-and-have-a-couple-questions--barrel-not-symmetrical-/2-523871/ Another... https://www.ar15.com/forums/Armory/Beretta-ARX-100-owners-sanity-check-please-/2-519325/ Clamping the extension would definitely be a bad idea... I clamp my barrels between the gas block and the muzzle device, but all mine are 16" barrels. The SBR barrels you'd have to clamp it as you said. |
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Originally Posted By sdrake100: I've got a 10.5" factory SBR. What muzzle devices would you gents recommend? Anybody using something besides the factory flash hider? Is it true that the factory A2's are cranked on really tight? View Quote I clamped the barrel into a vise with 1/8 inch thick flubber-ish pads on each side. I watched to make sure the piston did not contact anything when wrenching. 16 inch came off easy, but the 10 inch was put on by somebody that used to work at PSA and a bit wonky where it bit the original crush washer. Had a YHM flash hider on for a while. Used JP double-crush washers and just put the A2's back on after the 16 inch got lopped by ADCO. The 13 inch barrel seems to shoot the best groups for whatever reason. |
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I also replaced the A2 on my 16in barrel. The original had been cranked on by some 800 gorilla at Beretta.
I used an excellent barrel vice and clamped the barrel just shy of the swell for the A2. Even so, it required so much force that I was worried about reverse gain twist (loss twist?) at the muzzle . Came out fine and I replaced the A2 with an old Carlson Strike 6-prong, opened ended flash suppressor (about the same length as the A2). Forrest |
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Originally Posted By DaysGone: Walked into a local gun store today and she was sitting on the shelf. Production date 2021. Was looking for one for a long time. Was there any changes done throughout the years that are significant? https://content.invisioncic.com/p285907/monthly_2022_01/20220121_155919.jpg.e61a99971a99896c23a44033ce7ec6b6.jpg View Quote Nice! And really nothing major for changes... You may or may not have either a single stage trigger or a two stage trigger, nothing to get excited about either way as they both kinda suck. And if your magazine catch buttons seem to be sticking and feeling bound up then your hammer springs may be installed incorrectly. If not, then you're probably good. |
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Originally Posted By DaysGone: Walked into a local gun store today and she was sitting on the shelf. Production date 2021. Was looking for one for a long time. Was there any changes done throughout the years that are significant? https://content.invisioncic.com/p285907/monthly_2022_01/20220121_155919.jpg.e61a99971a99896c23a44033ce7ec6b6.jpg View Quote This guy made a trigger for it that absolutely shits on both factory iterations of the trigger and is simple to install. Easily the most relevant thing and worth every penny if you intend to shoot it seriously and it's not just a collector's piece. |
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Have the reported issues with the SS trigger been fixed?
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Originally Posted By Master_Blaster: Have the reported issues with the SS trigger been fixed? View Quote As far as I know, they have been. I even had Art inspect a few pictures of my hammer (that's where the problem was) to make sure it wasn't one of the defective hammers... Turned out my trigger was made before that design change on the hammer. |
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Does anyone know if JP or taylortactical light hammer springs work on the arx trigger?
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Did Beretta release the ARX-100 (5.56) pistol yet?
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^^^ ummm, not really ^^^
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Probably run a few batches a year.
But now that they're involved with the other NGSW rifle they may be gearing up to offer that instead. |
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The machining on the shooting sight trigger I just purchased is really rough. Is that the same for those of you that have one?
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Originally Posted By sdrake100: The machining on the shooting sight trigger I just purchased is really rough. Is that the same for those of you that have one? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/274532/PXL_20220129_221754236_jpg-2259248.JPG View Quote I'd say yes. Mine looks the same and I got it years ago... Still feels great though. I will say that the ugly cosmetics of the rough machining had me skeptical about the quality, having only experienced Geissele finish quality up to that point. Also, I wasn't a fan of the textured rubber coating on the trigger so I did remove that before installation. |
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Originally Posted By sdrake100: The machining on the shooting sight trigger I just purchased is really rough. Is that the same for those of you that have one? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/274532/PXL_20220129_221754236_jpg-2259248.JPG View Quote Yes, I would say he only bothered to polish out the few surfaces that actually count. Far better than my factory trigger which was awful. |
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Originally Posted By billbotts: Yes, I would say he only bothered to polish out the few surfaces that actually count. Far better than my factory trigger which was awful. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By billbotts: Originally Posted By sdrake100: The machining on the shooting sight trigger I just purchased is really rough. Is that the same for those of you that have one? https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/274532/PXL_20220129_221754236_jpg-2259248.JPG Yes, I would say he only bothered to polish out the few surfaces that actually count. Far better than my factory trigger which was awful. Do need to send your 'lower' to Shooting Sight to get it installed or is it an easy DIY? |
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Originally Posted By JRCmx: Do need to send your 'lower' to Shooting Sight to get it installed or is it an easy DIY? View Quote It's not anywhere near as easy as installing an AR trigger, mainly because of the tight fit of the pins in the factory parts and the fact that you have to remove and reinstall the safety selector and the drop safety in the process of it... However, removing the factory trigger is the hardest part of he job. I'd think if you could assemble an entire AR lower receiver correctly ("correctly" being the key word ) then you shouldn't have too much of an issue installing the Shooting Sight ARX trigger. Comparatively, installing the factory ARX trigger is a bit more of a pain in the ass. I'm still considering getting two more of the Shooting Sight triggers for my two newer ARX's. The crappy 2 stage-ish factory triggers have me leaving them sitting optic-less in the safe because I always grab the first one I bought that I put the SS trigger in. |
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I definitely did not find the ShootingSight Trigger intuitive to install. Best advice is to put the receiver on a magazine vise block since you’re going to need all the hands and fingers you can get. I used the prototype video which has some significant differences and poor lighting but it was better than nothing. Also, if you don’t like the texture on the trigger just do what I did and apply some heat shrink.
Here’s Art’s video: https://youtu.be/65wyYyPzZTw |
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Originally Posted By JRCmx:Do need to send your 'lower' to Shooting Sight to get it installed or is it an easy DIY? View Quote What 556Cliff said, much more complicated than an AR trigger, but if you have any level of armorer skills very doable. Were I unwilling to tackle it, I would opt for a local gunsmith to do the install before I sent the lower to the manufacturer, in fact I don't know that they even offer that service from the trigger maker. Sending it out is less complicated because in this case the lower is not the firearm, nobody has to log it in or do special shipping. I did not find any fitting necessary in either of my rifles, it was a drop in installation, only complicated by Beretta's design for the lower and some heavy springs. |
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I just finished mine last night. I wouldn't say it was easy, but it wasn't difficult if you have the right tools/setup.
I set mine up in a mag block in a vice. I'd say the most difficult part was getting the trigger installed and making sure the spring was installed the right way. Art's video here did not help much because he used prototype parts and not what's in the kit. I also had a little trouble making sure the hammer springs were in the correct position up against the wall and not dropped down into the recesses behind, and also keeping the springs on while you lowered it in. All in all, if you have armorer's experience and tools, this job is not difficult. Because the upper is the serialized part, I'd be willing to install triggers for anyone else so that I can document it into a proper post here on arfcom. |
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Are the 10.25' SBR kits still being made?
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Im thinking about doing a Form 1 on mine. Has anyone ever listed the gas port sizes for the short barrel. The pictures above make me think they are maybe 50 percent larger?
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Originally Posted By billbotts: What 556Cliff said, much more complicated than an AR trigger, but if you have any level of armorer skills very doable. Were I unwilling to tackle it, I would opt for a local gunsmith to do the install before I sent the lower to the manufacturer, in fact I don't know that they even offer that service from the trigger maker. Sending it out is less complicated because in this case the lower is not the firearm, nobody has to log it in or do special shipping. I did not find any fitting necessary in either of my rifles, it was a drop in installation, only complicated by Beretta's design for the lower and some heavy springs. View Quote A new video would be nice. I still haven't installed mine and would be interested in any pearls on what to avoid. |
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Wow i still have not looked to see if my springs are installed correctly—what page of the thread is that again?
I did install the factory sling this week, that thing is like 10’ long. Not sure why they used the sling bars—and odd sized ones at that—instead of QD. |
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Originally Posted By ChickenDaddy: Wow i still have not looked to see if my springs are installed correctly—what page of the thread is that again? I did install the factory sling this week, that thing is like 10’ long. Not sure why they used the sling bars—and odd sized ones at that—instead of QD. View Quote Page 110 has a clear picture of how the trigger and hammer springs should be placed. Coincidentally, I only recently tried out one of the factory slings a couple of months ago and I've had the one that came with my first ARX since 2014... I thought it could be worse. Though I will continue to go sling-less with the ARX until I absolutely need to have one on for whatever reason. |
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Here’s what I’m using in regards to sling setup. It may not be for everyone but I’ve been using it this way for about two years now on the range and multiple hikes/rucks and it’s been working great. The sling doesn’t matter as much but the hardware I’m using are Blue Force Gear U-Loops (1”). The original cable/bead wouldn’t fit underneath the sling points, so I cut them off and replaced them with 550 Paracord. The setup has been very secure and reliable and is still expedient enough to remove when you have to. I eventually sewed the hardware on to the sling (T.Rex Arms) to reduce hardware and keep with the lightweight theme of this rifle.
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Does anyone have a smooth lower panel cover they want to part with or know where I can pick one up?
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Any info on the OEM flip up sights on the ARX? Are they any good or do they suck?
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Originally Posted By jtb33: Any info on the OEM flip up sights on the ARX? Are they any good or do they suck? View Quote They work in a pinch, but they suck. They're big and they block a lot of your view around them, but most important to note is that they're even taller than standard AR height sights when deployed. It's not all bad though, somehow I think they actually compliment the look of the ARX when they are in the folded position and I like their QD-ish installation and removal feature. |
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