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If it's discontinued. Getting the SBR approved of course. Anyone think that ordering the SBR kit would be a good idea?
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"I've been persecuted but never prosecuted." Antony C. Sutton on his books.
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I SBR'ed mine ASAP. With the stocked folded, the ARX close to pistol sized. Compared side by side, it's roughly the same size as the CZ EVO. The bbl is also a heavy profile under the HG.
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I'm friends with the owner of the TailHook arm brace. He and I have been nagging Beretta for going on 2 years now to take a ARX-200 from Italy, add a short barrel (which they have over there), remove the buttstock, and import it to the US as a pistol.
My buddy would then add the armbrace, and you would have an instant SBR with no tax stamp and no 922R requirements, because it is a pistol, and that *isn't* a stock .... Seems like an instant success. They would beat the MDR and the Tavor into the market for a short .308, they would not have to encumber their TN production facility or invest money in molds, Italy gets more sales. Unfortunately, we have only been able to contact one salesperson, who didn't care, and we could only contact them at SHOT or the NRA show, because none of them ever answer their phone, and that one sales person has since been let go. Indeed when I got pig headed one day and spent 3 hours insisting that I'm going to hang on till I talk to a live person, I was told that 'most' of the sales staff have been let go. Reality is that the entire gun industry has declining sales since Trump got elected, and Beretta lost the M92 contract, and they are sucking getting their TN production facility on line ... so I think the notion of support for small projects is a non-starter. I'll give it one last try at SHOT next week, but I'm not holding high hopes. |
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For sure. If you can stand the wait. Botach has them for about $900
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Tried removing the side rails for the first time today... one of the four screws wasn't broached deep enough and stripped almost instantly with minimal pressure. Sigh.
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Originally Posted By ShootingSight:
I'm friends with the owner of the TailHook arm brace. He and I have been nagging Beretta for going on 2 years now to take a ARX-200 from Italy, add a short barrel (which they have over there), remove the buttstock, and import it to the US as a pistol. My buddy would then add the armbrace, and you would have an instant SBR with no tax stamp and no 922R requirements, because it is a pistol, and that *isn't* a stock .... Seems like an instant success. They would beat the MDR and the Tavor into the market for a short .308, they would not have to encumber their TN production facility or invest money in molds, Italy gets more sales. Unfortunately, we have only been able to contact one salesperson, who didn't care, and we could only contact them at SHOT or the NRA show, because none of them ever answer their phone, and that one sales person has since been let go. Indeed when I got pig headed one day and spent 3 hours insisting that I'm going to hang on till I talk to a live person, I was told that 'most' of the sales staff have been let go. Reality is that the entire gun industry has declining sales since Trump got elected, and Beretta lost the M92 contract, and they are sucking getting their TN production facility on line ... so I think the notion of support for small projects is a non-starter. I'll give it one last try at SHOT next week, but I'm not holding high hopes. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Bless your little heart. I've been jonesing for the -200 since it 1st came to light. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Originally Posted By ShootingSight:
I'm friends with the owner of the TailHook arm brace. He and I have been nagging Beretta for going on 2 years now to take a ARX-200 from Italy, add a short barrel (which they have over there), remove the buttstock, and import it to the US as a pistol. My buddy would then add the armbrace, and you would have an instant SBR with no tax stamp and no 922R requirements, because it is a pistol, and that *isn't* a stock .... Seems like an instant success. They would beat the MDR and the Tavor into the market for a short .308, they would not have to encumber their TN production facility or invest money in molds, Italy gets more sales. Unfortunately, we have only been able to contact one salesperson, who didn't care, and we could only contact them at SHOT or the NRA show, because none of them ever answer their phone, and that one sales person has since been let go. Indeed when I got pig headed one day and spent 3 hours insisting that I'm going to hang on till I talk to a live person, I was told that 'most' of the sales staff have been let go. Reality is that the entire gun industry has declining sales since Trump got elected, and Beretta lost the M92 contract, and they are sucking getting their TN production facility on line ... so I think the notion of support for small projects is a non-starter. I'll give it one last try at SHOT next week, but I'm not holding high hopes. Although, it could be half the price. |
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Originally Posted By SpyHawk:
Isn't the ARX-200 nearly two pounds heavier than a SCAR 17S? Although, it could be half the price. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By SpyHawk:
Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Originally Posted By ShootingSight:
I'm friends with the owner of the TailHook arm brace. He and I have been nagging Beretta for going on 2 years now to take a ARX-200 from Italy, add a short barrel (which they have over there), remove the buttstock, and import it to the US as a pistol. My buddy would then add the armbrace, and you would have an instant SBR with no tax stamp and no 922R requirements, because it is a pistol, and that *isn't* a stock .... Seems like an instant success. They would beat the MDR and the Tavor into the market for a short .308, they would not have to encumber their TN production facility or invest money in molds, Italy gets more sales. Unfortunately, we have only been able to contact one salesperson, who didn't care, and we could only contact them at SHOT or the NRA show, because none of them ever answer their phone, and that one sales person has since been let go. Indeed when I got pig headed one day and spent 3 hours insisting that I'm going to hang on till I talk to a live person, I was told that 'most' of the sales staff have been let go. Reality is that the entire gun industry has declining sales since Trump got elected, and Beretta lost the M92 contract, and they are sucking getting their TN production facility on line ... so I think the notion of support for small projects is a non-starter. I'll give it one last try at SHOT next week, but I'm not holding high hopes. Although, it could be half the price. |
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Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
1.4# heavier, going by the stats. For the extra heft, I'd hope it has a stiffer receiver that doesn't munch optics. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Originally Posted By SpyHawk:
Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Originally Posted By ShootingSight:
I'm friends with the owner of the TailHook arm brace. He and I have been nagging Beretta for going on 2 years now to take a ARX-200 from Italy, add a short barrel (which they have over there), remove the buttstock, and import it to the US as a pistol. My buddy would then add the armbrace, and you would have an instant SBR with no tax stamp and no 922R requirements, because it is a pistol, and that *isn't* a stock .... Seems like an instant success. They would beat the MDR and the Tavor into the market for a short .308, they would not have to encumber their TN production facility or invest money in molds, Italy gets more sales. Unfortunately, we have only been able to contact one salesperson, who didn't care, and we could only contact them at SHOT or the NRA show, because none of them ever answer their phone, and that one sales person has since been let go. Indeed when I got pig headed one day and spent 3 hours insisting that I'm going to hang on till I talk to a live person, I was told that 'most' of the sales staff have been let go. Reality is that the entire gun industry has declining sales since Trump got elected, and Beretta lost the M92 contract, and they are sucking getting their TN production facility on line ... so I think the notion of support for small projects is a non-starter. I'll give it one last try at SHOT next week, but I'm not holding high hopes. Although, it could be half the price. I've no idea how the ARX-200's system works, but if it's similar to the ARX-100's piston, it'll probably be pretty gentle. |
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Originally Posted By Frost7:
IIRC SCAR optic munching is more a factor of the particulars of its piston system than receiver stiffness. It somehow puts an inordinately large amount of force on the rails under operation compared to an AR10 or M14 system, which most quality optics can take a battering from without issue. I've no idea how the ARX-200's system works, but if it's similar to the ARX-100's piston, it'll probably be pretty gentle. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Personal opinion here, but I suspect that being an extrusion, the upper is more prone to flex than it would be if it were milled from of a chunk of forged billet. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Originally Posted By Frost7:
IIRC SCAR optic munching is more a factor of the particulars of its piston system than receiver stiffness. It somehow puts an inordinately large amount of force on the rails under operation compared to an AR10 or M14 system, which most quality optics can take a battering from without issue. I've no idea how the ARX-200's system works, but if it's similar to the ARX-100's piston, it'll probably be pretty gentle. |
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In the first part of > this video < from Chris Bartocci there is some stuff about the ARX-200, but sadly nothing about a commercial release.
I haven't heard any new info about the ARX-100 either. Looks like Shot Show 2018 is a bust. |
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Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
In the first part of > this video < from Chris Bartocci there is some stuff about the ARX-200, but sadly nothing about a commercial release. I haven't heard any new info about the ARX-100 either. Looks like Shot Show 2018 is a bust. View Quote |
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I fondled one today at Academy. Are these a buy at $879?
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"Not only are there bats, but she has a whole legion of squirrels and chipmunks conducting a wild rodent rodeo in her belfry."
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Apparently some locations have them at 799, waiting for mine to drop to that before I buy.
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Is the 300 Blackout barrel available yet?
I’m seriously considering buying the ARX100 and a 300 barrel would seal the deal. |
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Is Beretta still offering the magazine rebate deal with the purchase of new rifles?
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Originally Posted By Frost7:
That would make sense. Only parroting what I've been told; I'm not very knowledgeable about the SCAR platform. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Frost7:
Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Originally Posted By Frost7:
IIRC SCAR optic munching is more a factor of the particulars of its piston system than receiver stiffness. It somehow puts an inordinately large amount of force on the rails under operation compared to an AR10 or M14 system, which most quality optics can take a battering from without issue. I've no idea how the ARX-200's system works, but if it's similar to the ARX-100's piston, it'll probably be pretty gentle. |
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You have to be practical about it. If Beretta is going to kill ARX100 then there is no reason to get excited about the 200. Half assing is not an encouraging business model.
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"I've been persecuted but never prosecuted." Antony C. Sutton on his books.
"Tay Tay is an awkward looking girl with the body of a pogo stick and the face of a rodent who frequently looks like a little girl who got into mommy's makeup drawer." |
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Do you know if this is a certainty sir? Any details or time frame if you think it will be discontinued?
Or do you believe it will be like the storm where is continued to be made but not evolved and supported with accessories? Originally Posted By sgwlower: No, from all appearances the rifle is now a dead platform unfortunately. View Quote |
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On a side note, I saw the ARX-160 in a video game yesterday. "Black Squad" on Steam. Completely unrelated to anything in the real world, but hey. There it is.
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Originally Posted By KnightofTheOldeCode:
Do you know if this is a certainty sir? Any details or time frame if you think it will be discontinued? Or do you believe it will be like the storm where is continued to be made but not evolved and supported with accessories? View Quote So yeah, they made the investment in the tooling for the barrels, but my gut feeling is it will wind up like the storm, or worse. |
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Originally Posted By KnightofTheOldeCode:
Do you know if this is a certainty sir? Any details or time frame if you think it will be discontinued? Or do you believe it will be like the storm where is continued to be made but not evolved and supported with accessories? View Quote |
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The ARX160 was at Shot 2018:
http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/02/11/shot-2018-berettas-intelligent-rail-display/ |
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Originally Posted By herd118:
The ARX160 was at Shot 2018: http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2018/02/11/shot-2018-berettas-intelligent-rail-display/ View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Frost7: That powered rail again. I would buy the shit out of that. Especially now that they dumped shitty 123s and went to AAs. View Quote The push for that tech seems to have dwindled. Last thing I heard it being called for was in some solicitation for a sniper weapon system, which was cancelled, of course. The promise of reducing weight was never realized, either. There's also not many compatible accessories for it ATM, being so bleeding edge at this point, if it's even in the R&D pipeline anymore. |
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Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Last quote I heard from a Beretta rep put an ARX-equipped sample at ~$3K. Yeah, no. The push for that tech seems to have dwindled. Last thing I heard it being called for was in some solicitation for a sniper weapon system, which was cancelled, of course. The promise of reducing weight was never realized, either. There's also not many compatible accessories for it ATM, being so bleeding edge at this point, if it's even in the R&D pipeline anymore. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Originally Posted By Frost7: That powered rail again. I would buy the shit out of that. Especially now that they dumped shitty 123s and went to AAs. The push for that tech seems to have dwindled. Last thing I heard it being called for was in some solicitation for a sniper weapon system, which was cancelled, of course. The promise of reducing weight was never realized, either. There's also not many compatible accessories for it ATM, being so bleeding edge at this point, if it's even in the R&D pipeline anymore. Alas it's the gun industry and we're busy moving backwards to attachment methods that need finnicky cams instead of adding powered rails to the good ones that already exist. Oh well. |
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Originally Posted By Frost7:
Yep, I know. If this was the electronics industry that would have been a "well, duh" development and have already been done around 2006 or so. Then all the competitors would've upped the ante in 2008. 2010 we'd have power pic rails standard, all compatible attachments, and redundant battery compartments built into the stocks of most rifles. Alas it's the gun industry and we're busy moving backwards to attachment methods that need finnicky cams instead of adding powered rails to the good ones that already exist. Oh well. View Quote |
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My problem, you take this to a dusty environment, the contacts get fouled and you have no power.
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for those of you running a 1-4x or 1-6x scope what mount or rings would be the best to use to get it closest to the rail. Thank you
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Copy that. Thanks for your answer sir.
So no hope of 300 Blackout, 6.8 SPC kits huh? ;( Originally Posted By sgwlower:
I am just going by what I have heard, here, the Beretta forums, and unfortunately from the local rep who a month ago said it was still going, told my LGS last week that it would be quite sometime before anything is done on the rifle. That and the fact nothing was mentioned about the rifle at Shot, looking through the videos I didn't even see that Beretta had brought one to shot show to show off. The only thing there was the Ar160, and the 200 select fire for the LE community. So yeah, they made the investment in the tooling for the barrels, but my gut feeling is it will wind up like the storm, or worse. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By sgwlower:
Originally Posted By KnightofTheOldeCode:
Do you know if this is a certainty sir? Any details or time frame if you think it will be discontinued? Or do you believe it will be like the storm where is continued to be made but not evolved and supported with accessories? So yeah, they made the investment in the tooling for the barrels, but my gut feeling is it will wind up like the storm, or worse. |
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What lights are you liking and work well with the ARX?
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"Good people do not need laws to tell them to act responsibly, while bad people will find a way around the laws." - Plato
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Sucks that they may be discontinuing the ARX 100.
I actually like shooting it more than my AUG and DDM4V7. Maybe I should buy another at Academy as a spare. |
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Originally Posted By VSelph:
And is there any locktite on the flash hider? I can't seem to get it off with my AR wrench. View Quote |
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I know I’m retarded but how the hell do you install the lower picatinny rail.
Nvm figured it out |
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Originally Posted By nsl:
Sucks that they may be discontinuing the ARX 100. I actually like shooting it more than my AUG and DDM4V7. Maybe I should buy another at Academy as a spare. View Quote |
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People said the ACR was a dead platform and was being discontinued every year for many years. Still going strong. Still not much factory support but the aftermarket is picking up the slack.
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Well, I bought one. This is all your fault.
I do like it so far though. Except those sights. Those are garbage. |
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Originally Posted By JAG2955:
Well, I bought one. This is all your fault. I do like it so far though. Except those sights. Those are garbage. View Quote Front Sight - LPA T-MAS7 Rear Sight - LPA MAS7 |
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Originally Posted By Frost7:
The military ARX's LPA sights are actually pretty cool. Shame Beretta doesn't ship those as standard instead of the crappy polymer BUIS. Front Sight - LPA T-MAS7 Rear Sight - LPA MAS7 View Quote Right now I'm happy with my $50 secondhand pair of Scorpion Evo iron sights. |
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Are those sights still sky high?
I had an old PA micro dot with a low mount lying around. I put that on for the time being. The height is great for me, though it is a bit sloppy on the rail. This rifle is pretty neat from an engineering standpoint. The extractors act as ejectors, depending which side you want it ejecting out. With the barrel removed moved and the stock folded, it doesn't take up much space, and it would be great for a traveling low profile rifle. It would easily fit in a backpack in that configuration. My trigger isn't too bad, but I will buy the charging handle extension. I don't have much need for a full pic bottom rail, but I'd probably buy that at the same time. It needs a better safety, IMHO. Kinda hoping those Botach kits go down in price for a future SBR project. ETA: If you are on the fence about this rifle, it is a stupidly easy buy at $879. |
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