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Posted: 10/14/2017 4:37:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KP49:
I seen that video. But why have the notch not point at the 'S' on the gas block if thats the case? I'll try to get an answer from Beretta, but other rifles I have. like the AUG, the two positions are made for normal and severe when the rifle gets gunked up it throws some extra gas into the system. Granted it could also be used as a 'low power' ammo setting. I doubt Beretta would go out of their way to make the gun more reliable with cheap ammo but who knows. I took the gas valve out today to have a look, but without seeing where the two holes go in the gas block its hard to tell which position does what. There is a slot cut in the valve, and it connects the two holes together when the notch is pointing towards the N and blocks off the lower hole when the notch is pointing toward the muzzle. The lower hole does not go directly into the gas port in the barrel, not sure where it goes, not going to try to remove the gas block to find out. I think the notch is there so it is assembled correctly, you can easily install the valve 180 degrees off then the holes would not connect in either position. If you install it 180 off then the notch either points to the S or straight down. Looks to me that bullet poking through the hole would be pointing at either the S or N and that is the 'pointer.' So I guess it depends on whether S and N means standard or non standard ammo, severe or normal like some say or south and north for all I know :) I could not tell any difference firing the rifle in either position using ppu m193 which is not the hottest ammo out there. Dont mean to overthink the whole thing, probably doesnt matter much in the big picture. I have some pretty weak wolfe .223, I'll see what happens with a few rounds of that stuff. The indicator mark on the adjustment valve is a little confusing for sure, but no one knows why Beretta does what they do. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 10/14/2017 7:39:06 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
I'm kind of wondering if something has changed... Beretta not including anything about the gas adjustment valve in the newer manuals is kind of weird. The indicator mark on the adjustment valve is a little confusing for sure, but no one knows why Beretta does what they do. How do I adjust the gas valve on my ARX-100 rifle? The ARX-100 features a unique design that ensures reliable operation of a varying range of ammunition.The standard setting is suitable for NATO ammunition and most US-produced commercial ammunition. The high pressure setting is used for lower pressure ammunition (generally imported ammunition). Please review the video below on how to make the adjustment. Then they show the short youtube video from a few posts ago. You can see there is some erosion on the gas valve from the hole it blocks off when the notch is towards the muzzle, the gas port on the barrel is between the gas valve and the piston. Just not sure if connecting the two holes together when the notch points towards the N is adding more gas or bleeding some off/adding some extra volume to ease the impulse. I tried blocking the muzzle and pressurizing the chamber with 1psi and the piston pops out with same force with the valve in either position or both holes blocked so who knows. I have watched quite a few review shooting vids and have seen the valve in both positions using brass cased ammo. Mine came out of the box with the notch pointing to the N position, if I never did any research on the internet I would have assumed that was the normal position. For now I'll just leave it like the video suggests. Either way its a decent rifle, not my favorite but certainly innovative - once you figure out how to take it apart :) |
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USA
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Posted: 10/16/2017 8:39:07 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Conqueror]
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The gas system on the ARX is pretty simple.
The barrel has two gas ports, about 1cm apart from each other. Let's call them the chamber-side port, and the muzzle-side port. The adjustable gas regulator plug sits above the muzzle-side port, and the plug simply turns it on or off. In S ("Standard") mode, the muzzle-side port is blocked, and the chamber-side port runs the rifle alone. This is adequate for standard good-quality .223 or 5.56 loads. In N, ("Nonstandard" is how Beretta chose to say "Adverse," which is to be used with weak ammo or a dirty rifle), the muzzle-side port is unblocked, adding additional gas to the system. Interestingly, this system can be conveniently adapted to running a rifle whose barrel has been chopped and is used with a suppressor. "S" becomes "Suppressed" mode, and "N" becomes "Non-suppressed" mode. 1. Chop barrel to preferred length. 2. Place gun in "S" mode and attach silencer of choice. 3. Enlarge rear port ONLY until it cycles reliably with the silencer attached. 4. Remove silencer and place gun in "N" mode. 5. Enlarge front port ONLY until it cycles reliably with NO silencer attached. This will ensure that in both modes, the gun will only receive just enough gas to cycle reliably, and should not be overgassed. This is one reason I'm happy to have chopped a 16" barrel on mine instead of buying a factory 10", which I suspect will be overgassed with a silencer. |
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Posted: 10/16/2017 9:24:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conqueror:
The gas system on the ARX is pretty simple. The barrel has two gas ports, about 1cm apart from each other. Let's call them the chamber-side port, and the muzzle-side port. The adjustable gas regulator plug sits above the muzzle-side port, and the plug simply turns it on or off. In S ("Standard") mode, the muzzle-side port is blocked, and the chamber-side port runs the rifle alone. This is adequate for standard good-quality .223 or 5.56 loads. In N, ("Nonstandard" is how Beretta chose to say "Adverse," which is to be used with weak ammo or a dirty rifle), the muzzle-side port is unblocked, adding additional gas to the system. Interestingly, this system can be conveniently adapted to running a rifle whose barrel has been chopped and is used with a suppressor. "S" becomes "Suppressed" mode, and "N" becomes "Non-suppressed" mode. 1. Chop barrel to preferred length. 2. Place gun in "S" mode and attach silencer of choice. 3. Enlarge rear port ONLY until it cycles reliably with the silencer attached. 4. Remove silencer and place gun in "N" mode. 5. Enlarge front port ONLY until it cycles reliably with NO silencer attached. This will ensure that in both modes, the gun will only receive just enough gas to cycle reliably, and should not be overgassed. This is one reason I'm happy to have chopped a 16" barrel on mine instead of buying a factory 10", which I suspect will be overgassed with a silencer. |
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Posted: 10/16/2017 12:01:10 PM EDT
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So the notch at 12 o'clock is the normal position?
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TN, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2017 3:33:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: KP49]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conqueror:
The gas system on the ARX is pretty simple. The barrel has two gas ports, about 1cm apart from each other. Let's call them the chamber-side port, and the muzzle-side port. The adjustable gas regulator plug sits above the muzzle-side port, and the plug simply turns it on or off. In S ("Standard") mode, the muzzle-side port is blocked, and the chamber-side port runs the rifle alone. This is adequate for standard good-quality .223 or 5.56 loads. In N, ("Nonstandard" is how Beretta chose to say "Adverse," which is to be used with weak ammo or a dirty rifle), the muzzle-side port is unblocked, adding additional gas to the system. This will ensure that in both modes, the gun will only receive just enough gas to cycle reliably, and should not be overgassed. This is one reason I'm happy to have chopped a 16" barrel on mine instead of buying a factory 10", which I suspect will be overgassed with a silencer. But it would be nice to at least mention it in the manual lol. Also would be nice if the notch actually pointed to both the S and N mark. Put another 200 through mine this afternoon with three different kinds of ammo. Everything cycled and ejected just fine, even the crappy tula 5.56 that wont lock the bolt back on my 20" AR, with the gas valve in both positions. I really cant tell the difference in felt recoil or ejection changing the gas valve even though the Tula was noticeably weaker in sound and recoil. I'll just leave the notch pointing forward :) |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2017 5:18:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glklvr:
So the notch at 12 o'clock is the normal position? |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2017 5:58:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 556Cliff:
As they are shipped from Beretta, No. The notch at 9 o'clock is the normal position. Mine and another we pulled from the boxes were set with the notch at 12 o'clock, the boxes werent sealed though since they check the serial numbers when they receive them. But I doubt someone messed with the gas valves on them. I figure Beretta actually puts the video on their customer help page so 9 o'clock is correct. What N and S really stands for who knows. http://berettausa.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/996/kw/arx100%20gas/session/L3RpbWUvMTUwODE5MTAxMS9zaWQvb2dQOUlsdm4%3D |
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Posted: 10/16/2017 7:19:30 PM EDT
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My notch was at the top too.
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WA, USA
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Posted: 10/16/2017 11:01:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KP49:
Not all of them :) Mine and another we pulled from the boxes were set with the notch at 12 o'clock, the boxes werent sealed though since they check the serial numbers when they receive them. But I doubt someone messed with the gas valves on them. I figure Beretta actually puts the video on their customer help page so 9 o'clock is correct. What N and S really stands for who knows. http://berettausa.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/996/kw/arx100%20gas/session/L3RpbWUvMTUwODE5MTAxMS9zaWQvb2dQOUlsdm4%3D Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By KP49:
Originally Posted By 556Cliff:
As they are shipped from Beretta, No. The notch at 9 o'clock is the normal position. Mine and another we pulled from the boxes were set with the notch at 12 o'clock, the boxes werent sealed though since they check the serial numbers when they receive them. But I doubt someone messed with the gas valves on them. I figure Beretta actually puts the video on their customer help page so 9 o'clock is correct. What N and S really stands for who knows. http://berettausa.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/996/kw/arx100%20gas/session/L3RpbWUvMTUwODE5MTAxMS9zaWQvb2dQOUlsdm4%3D |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/17/2017 7:01:13 AM EDT
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I wonder if "N" stands for something else in Italian?
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Posted: 10/17/2017 7:08:11 PM EDT
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Got mine Saturday for $879.00 from Academy. I see them on Gunbroker for much more. Is the Academy price a temporary thing or what? Not that it matters because after shooting this thing, it's a definite keeper.
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Posted: 10/17/2017 8:28:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Frost7]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MiG-21:
Got mine Saturday for $879.00 from Academy. I see them on Gunbroker for much more. Is the Academy price a temporary thing or what? Not that it matters because after shooting this thing, it's a definite keeper. ARX will probably end up creeping back up into $1200 territory again I imagine, and if these prices really are just Beretta blowing out old stock, they might come back on the market around their old prices too. |
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USA
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Posted: 10/18/2017 6:58:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MiG-21:
Got mine Saturday for $879.00 from Academy. I see them on Gunbroker for much more. Is the Academy price a temporary thing or what? Not that it matters because after shooting this thing, it's a definite keeper. They have another one on display, and I'm thinking of picking it up. |
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OK, USA
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Posted: 10/21/2017 7:23:23 AM EDT
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Has anyone bought one of the SBR kits from Botach yet? I just got an email from them saying “on sale, limited time only” but when I went to the site the price was still $849.00 and the SBR is still listed at $899.00.
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NC, USA
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Posted: 10/21/2017 7:37:22 AM EDT
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I went to a new Academy store yesterday and they had two ARX in stock at the Academy price.
Doesn't seem like they are going away. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 10/27/2017 2:03:04 PM EDT
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Bud's is down to $849 on the black ones now, they even offer layaway. Still at $1250 for a FDE one. If I can catch a FDE one for around $899 or so I'll pick up another.
Hit 500 rounds thru mine last week, still no issues at all, really happy. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 10/29/2017 2:21:14 AM EDT
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I was told by an online dealer that’s sells the ARX that Beretta was not bringing anymore ARX 100 in. I asked if it’s because of a new model and never got a reply back. So not sure if it’s true or not.
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USA
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Posted: 10/29/2017 3:29:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blast:
I was told by an online dealer that’s sells the ARX that Beretta was not bringing anymore ARX 100 in. I asked if it’s because of a new model and never got a reply back. So not sure if it’s true or not. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 10/29/2017 5:41:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Blast]
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As in for selling them, maybe bad choice on words on my part. He said they won't making them now and will not be seeing anymore coming in. This maybe only applies to the civilian market I don't know and did not ask, or maybe he's just full of it.
In any event, I found one somewhere else and bought one. |
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USA
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Posted: 10/29/2017 11:26:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blast:
As in for selling them, maybe bad choice on words on my part. He said they won't making them now and will not be seeing anymore coming in. This maybe only applies to the civilian market I don't know and did not ask, or maybe he's just full of it. In any event, I found one somewhere else and bought one. |
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USA
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Posted: 10/31/2017 9:13:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Blast:
I was told by an online dealer that’s sells the ARX that Beretta was not bringing anymore ARX 100 in. I asked if it’s because of a new model and never got a reply back. So not sure if it’s true or not. |
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USA
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Posted: 10/31/2017 9:19:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SmartDrug:
How difficult was the port enlargement? |
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USA
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Posted: 10/31/2017 9:20:31 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glklvr:
So the notch at 12 o'clock is the normal position? |
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Posted: 11/1/2017 4:01:08 AM EDT
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What is the reasoning behind Beretta choosing the pencil barrel profile?
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USA
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Posted: 11/1/2017 5:51:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By misc:
What is the reasoning behind Beretta choosing the pencil barrel profile? |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 11/1/2017 6:46:44 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Blast]
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Conqueror:
If I only had a dollar for every dumbass thing a random gun dealer has said, I could buy a couple more ARXs. |
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Posted: 11/1/2017 6:51:00 PM EDT
[Last Edit: glklvr]
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Or, Academy buys 2,000 of them at $700 not planning to make a huge profit off of them but Bud's doesn't know if they're going to sell so they buy 100 at $1,000 and list them at $1,200-$1,400.
A large national chain may have gotten a huge price break, especially if they bought a crap load of Nanos and 92s. |
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Posted: 11/1/2017 11:24:38 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Frost7]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By glklvr:
Or, Academy buys 2,000 of them at $700 not planning to make a huge profit off of them but Bud's doesn't know if they're going to sell so they buy 100 at $1,000 and list them at $1,200-$1,400. A large national chain may have gotten a huge price break, especially if they bought a crap load of Nanos and 92s. |
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USA
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Posted: 11/1/2017 11:52:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frost7:
All of Botach's are (or were) also LE models, so they are probably being dishonest and buying them at Beretta's reduced LE pricing, then turning around and selling them to the public. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frost7:
Originally Posted By glklvr:
Or, Academy buys 2,000 of them at $700 not planning to make a huge profit off of them but Bud's doesn't know if they're going to sell so they buy 100 at $1,000 and list them at $1,200-$1,400. A large national chain may have gotten a huge price break, especially if they bought a crap load of Nanos and 92s. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 11/2/2017 12:23:46 AM EDT
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Well, makes you think what kind of markup is really in all this shit we buy. Just saying...
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Posted: 11/2/2017 3:13:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Frost7]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Good for them. Nothing illegal about selling SBRs commercially with the requisite form paperwork filed. A receiver label doesn't change that fact. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Master_Blaster:
Originally Posted By Frost7:
Originally Posted By glklvr:
Or, Academy buys 2,000 of them at $700 not planning to make a huge profit off of them but Bud's doesn't know if they're going to sell so they buy 100 at $1,000 and list them at $1,200-$1,400. A large national chain may have gotten a huge price break, especially if they bought a crap load of Nanos and 92s. Beretta sells to LE for much closer to what it actually costs them per unit to make a weapon, especially when it's something new they're trying to get market penetration with. In order to do what Botach was doing, they basically bought stating they were going to sell to LE, then turned around and sold them to the commercial market and pocketed the difference. I'm guessing after they had that blowout at $850 and suddenly the price hiked, but you could buy them for cheap still by using gift cards, Beretta probably got wise to that and gave them a slap. I'm not criticizing too harshly, I went and bought three knowing that's probably what they were doing. 
Given that turned right around in a couple weeks though, I'm guessing someone in finance over at Beretta USA said, "Have you seen how many are moving at $850? Fuck it, let's clear some inventory, give them the go ahead." Originally Posted By Blast:
Well, makes you think what kind of markup is really in all this shit we buy. Just saying... It's not because I love businesses more and think Average Joe is a sucker, it's just Average Joe is fickle and he buys one at a time, two if I'm lucky, and he occasionally gets cold feet and wants to cancel, thus wasting my time, and time is money. A business wants 200 units, they pay up front, and they don't want to cancel... you can see how I can reduce my markup due to the efficiencies involved there. |
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Posted: 11/2/2017 11:29:57 PM EDT
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I rather suspect that the LE SKUs had lackluster sales so Botach and Academy bought the remainder at a low price. Many have mentioned getting LE SKU guns.
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OK, USA
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Posted: 11/4/2017 9:29:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Frost7:
All of Botach's are (or were) also LE models, so they are probably being dishonest and buying them at Beretta's reduced LE pricing, then turning around and selling them to the public. I called Beretta and told them about it. The CS rep wasn’t surprised and said no problem and he would send one right away by UPS. He also sent me a link to a website to get five more free because of a special they were running. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 11/10/2017 2:11:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: MrMitch]
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ARX-100 on sale for $799 at Academy on black friday. Wish I had one near me.
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Posted: 11/10/2017 3:19:00 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrMitch:
ARX-100 on sale for $799 at Academy on black friday. Wish I had one near me.  No Academy near me. 
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Posted: 11/11/2017 8:12:54 AM EDT
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Be ready for Academy's 45 minute wait. Yes 45 minute wait while they attempt to run you thru every fucking data base known to man.
I decided on a whim to buy one. Being the one person at the gun counter I foolishly assuming it would take 10 minutes tops. Earlier this year. $879 + tax. The 4473 didn't take me even a minute to fill out. Sunday eveningat 8:35pm. Didn't leave until almost 9:25 pm. They close at 9:30. I complained via email. Got a reply by email and had some Jackoff even left a 2 minute message. I deleted the message when it arrived to some Bullshit about protecting the general public. There is no mention on Academy's website about a 45 minute wait at all or protecting the public. It reminds me years ago when Papa John's got in trouble for requiring a Driver's License when a person created an online profile. They would run your D.L. thru databases and if you were wanted then they got a 25% kick back. I've since decided to boycott Academy. |
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Posted: 11/11/2017 8:13:13 AM EDT
[Last Edit: misc]
[#38]
2 tap.
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Posted: 11/11/2017 8:13:29 AM EDT
[Last Edit: misc]
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3 tap.
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Posted: 11/11/2017 9:01:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: glklvr]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By misc:
Be ready for Academy's 45 minute wait. Yes 45 minute wait while they attempt to run you thru every fucking data base known to man. I decided on a whim to buy one. Being the one person at the gun counter I foolishly assuming it would take 10 minutes tops. Earlier this year. $879 + tax. The 4473 didn't take me even a minute to fill out. Sunday eveningat 8:35pm. Didn't leave until almost 9:25 pm. They close at 9:30. I complained via email. Got a reply by email and had some Jackoff even left a 2 minute message. I deleted the message when it arrived to some Bullshit about protecting the general public. There is no mention on Academy's website about a 45 minute wait at all or protecting the public. It reminds me years ago when Papa John's got in trouble for requiring a Driver's License when a person created an online profile. They would run your D.L. thru databases and if you were wanted then they got a 25% kick back. I've since decided to boycott Academy. |
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Posted: 11/11/2017 9:44:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By misc:
Be ready for Academy's 45 minute wait. Yes 45 minute wait while they attempt to run you thru every fucking data base known to man. I decided on a whim to buy one. Being the one person at the gun counter I foolishly assuming it would take 10 minutes tops. Earlier this year. $879 + tax. The 4473 didn't take me even a minute to fill out. Sunday eveningat 8:35pm. Didn't leave until almost 9:25 pm. They close at 9:30. I complained via email. Got a reply by email and had some Jackoff even left a 2 minute message. I deleted the message when it arrived to some Bullshit about protecting the general public. There is no mention on Academy's website about a 45 minute wait at all or protecting the public. It reminds me years ago when Papa John's got in trouble for requiring a Driver's License when a person created an online profile. They would run your D.L. thru databases and if you were wanted then they got a 25% kick back. I've since decided to boycott Academy. And I'll gladly wait 10-15 extra minutes to save $400. |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 11/13/2017 12:00:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Blast]
[#42]
So this is interesting...at least for me :-) ... If you want to increase the LOP on the Beretta ARX 100 stock just push the release tab down (on the top of the stock) and pull out stock so just one of the little round locking tabs engage instead of two on the bottom. It gives me a longer LOP for my arm length and is still pretty stable! Give it a try and see how it works for you if you need a longer LOP!
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Posted: 11/14/2017 9:54:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve:
Took me about 15-20 minutes, most of which was waiting for the manager to come verify the sale. And I'll gladly wait 10-15 extra minutes to save $400. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve:
Originally Posted By misc:
Be ready for Academy's 45 minute wait. Yes 45 minute wait while they attempt to run you thru every fucking data base known to man. I decided on a whim to buy one. Being the one person at the gun counter I foolishly assuming it would take 10 minutes tops. Earlier this year. $879 + tax. The 4473 didn't take me even a minute to fill out. Sunday eveningat 8:35pm. Didn't leave until almost 9:25 pm. They close at 9:30. I complained via email. Got a reply by email and had some Jackoff even left a 2 minute message. I deleted the message when it arrived to some Bullshit about protecting the general public. There is no mention on Academy's website about a 45 minute wait at all or protecting the public. It reminds me years ago when Papa John's got in trouble for requiring a Driver's License when a person created an online profile. They would run your D.L. thru databases and if you were wanted then they got a 25% kick back. I've since decided to boycott Academy. And I'll gladly wait 10-15 extra minutes to save $400. |
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USA
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Posted: 11/15/2017 5:10:27 AM EDT
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Consider that their policies are probably geared towards a store staff who by and large are not gun-knowledgeable and not gun dealers by trade. I'm a retail store manager and there are all sorts of scammers working out there. In most retail stores you're just going to be out some money or some product if you screw up. Screw up with firearms and the store would lose its license or someone could go to jail. Having been through the process at Academy (and yes, it takes longer than my normal dealer) my impression was that it was designed to put controls in place to make a major foul-up almost impossible, even at the cost of more time for them and you.
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Posted: 11/15/2017 7:09:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: glklvr]
[#45]
The problem with Academy is only the manager can sign off on the paperwork. If they're doing something else, you're waiting until they get free.
Contrast that with another big box sports store- Cabela's- where every gun employee plus the manager can sign off on the paperwork. It's just a matter of having the trained employees. Must be why Cabela's likes to charge more for their stuff. |
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USA
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Posted: 11/25/2017 7:16:26 PM EDT
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I looked at one today at Academy - $799, I didn't do it as I had just dropped a ton of cash in other things for everyone else in my life for Christmas plus fixing up the new home a little. It seemed nice but I turned it down. Found this thread as I'm thinking of going back, they had a few left the guy behind the counter said.
It was light and cool, but felt kind of cheap like airsoft-ish compared to a good AR. Seems like they are holding up OK from guys that have used them lots. |
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Posted: 11/25/2017 7:51:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cherenkov:
I looked at one today at Academy - $799, I didn't do it as I had just dropped a ton of cash in other things for everyone else in my life for Christmas plus fixing up the new home a little. It seemed nice but I turned it down. Found this thread as I'm thinking of going back, they had a few left the guy behind the counter said. It was light and cool, but felt kind of cheap like airsoft-ish compared to a good AR. Seems like they are holding up OK from guys that have used them lots. |
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Posted: 11/26/2017 7:45:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cherenkov:
I looked at one today at Academy - $799, I didn't do it as I had just dropped a ton of cash in other things for everyone else in my life for Christmas plus fixing up the new home a little. It seemed nice but I turned it down. Found this thread as I'm thinking of going back, they had a few left the guy behind the counter said. It was light and cool, but felt kind of cheap like airsoft-ish compared to a good AR. Seems like they are holding up OK from guys that have used them lots. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 11/26/2017 8:12:47 AM EDT
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Shot a match in the cold Friday night... The metal parts on my AR were like holding ice. The plastic parts were not so bad. I was shooting with my SKD Alpha Touch gloves. Not very wintry, but the best dexterity for shooting. An ARX would have been more comfortable to hold.
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Posted: 11/26/2017 8:29:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By vellnueve: Glocks felt like that back in the 80s. When I worked in a gun shop in the 80s, The majority of folks that worked and customer base also scoffed at "Cheap" Plastic AR15s. I was a young AR enthusiast and they tried their best at explaining how guns like the m14 or Garand were far superior and more accurate and not waste time on toy guns. ARs can indeed be accurate, and durable. Like anything new, it needs to earn credibility before people trust it. This thread is helpful to those looking at it as a new platform. |
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