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Posted: 3/14/2006 7:41:20 AM EDT
there is a calico on sale for $500 at the fun store down the street. for a while i have wanted a 9mm carbine but the cx4 and pc9 are more than i wanted to spend. the guy behind the counter said it is a pretty good range gun but probably not the greatest if i was going to be taking somewhere dirty. would this be an incredibly stupid firearm to buy or are they neat guns and fun to shoot? or should i just go with my previous yearn for a 9mm pistol with a manual safety for condition 1 carry(cz75/85, para, sa 1911)?
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 7:51:20 AM EDT
I owned one. In my opinion it's a POS.

Drum mag broke 3 times.

I was finally able to sell it...cheap.

I'd spend the money on something worthwhile...

Link Posted: 3/14/2006 8:01:01 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/14/2006 8:14:39 AM EDT by highwayman]
Why did I think you were talking about a cat?

Anyway, I think I found the ultimate 9mm with external safety:


What do you think? MJD
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 10:08:29 AM EDT
I agree with GummyBear. For $500 you could get something much nicer than a calico.
Link Posted: 3/14/2006 11:26:54 AM EDT

Originally Posted By highwayman:
Why did I think you were talking about a cat?

Anyway, I think I found the ultimate 9mm with external safety:
www.sigarms.com/images/catalog/product/226X5-TAC-left.jpg

What do you think? MJD



yeah i don't have that kind of money but i wish i did.

the guy at the store said that mag was the draw of the weapon but also its weakest part in terms of reliability.

i am thinking about another cz75 to go with my compact decocker. but that is for another thread at another time.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 4:44:22 AM EDT
I saw one at my local fun shop that was for sale pretty cheap, I think it was around $300.

Anyway, I shouldered it, POS. The stock needs more adjustment positions. Its either too short or too long, the sights are real crude. and its heavy even empty, a hundred rounds of 9mm would just put it over the top.


I put it back down and quicly moved on...
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 4:27:46 PM EDT
If you want a 9mm carbine, I'd look around for a used Vector Uzi.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 4:47:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/15/2006 4:47:54 PM EDT by BIKECOP29]
Put the $500 towards a 9mm AR-15. I know the "itch" can be pretty overwhelming, but if you fight the temptation, you will be grateful in having a 9mm AR-15, Beretta Storm, or some other better quality 9mm carbine than the Calico. If I had the cash I've spent on POS weapons, I think I would have enough to buy 1 or 2 nice ARs.

If you absolutely must have a 9mm carbine right away, take a look at the Kel-Tec Sub2000. You can find these used in $250-$300 range and it's a whole lot more reliable than the Calico. The Sub2000s can take either S&W, Glock, Beretta, or Sig 9mm mags too.
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 8:36:24 PM EDT
There are CX4s going for $450 on gunbroker.com. If your fun store charges you $50 to do the transfer, you can stay in your price range...
Link Posted: 3/15/2006 11:48:42 PM EDT
i have decided to pass on the calico. and for the record i do not like the ar platform. in my brief experience with it i found it to be the biggest pain in the ass to clean and not especially enjoyable to shoot.

but i have decided instead to buy some accessories for the handguns i have instead of another gun. i am going to try to stick to 4 and pay down some debt. but i will pick up some grips for my mkiii and cz75 compact as well as a holster for the latter and my ruger p95. it is a lot easier to justify to myself spending $50 at a time 4-5 times than $400 once plus some other goodies to go with it.
Link Posted: 3/16/2006 3:13:31 AM EDT
9mm Clico was one of the worst guns I ever owned. Sold it for a loss, never looked back.
Link Posted: 3/16/2006 7:22:57 AM EDT
still have mine it is junk, interesting concept, and if the production quality/materials were beter it would be a decent gun but, unfortunatly they are not, pass on it.
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