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Posted: 10/27/2003 6:21:00 AM EDT

I am always looking to buy the best possible weapon to fit each niche, with the limited funds I have available at the time.

What would you buy/own, if you had basically unlimited funds, but had to keep your entire arsenal down to, say, eight or fewer weapons?

I think I would probably go with the following:

Suppressed Ruger MKII .22
Glock 36
HK USP .45
HK MP5SD6 (I said unlimited funds, remember)
Springfield Armory M1A Scout w/ Aimpoint
KAC SR-15 M4
Remington 700 .308 Custom
Benelli M1 Entry model (18" barrel)

What say you?



Link Posted: 10/27/2003 6:32:15 AM EDT
Suppressed Ruger 22-45 .22
Kimber 1911
S&W 329PD

M16
- 24" free float target upper
-11" upper with suppressor
-16" heavy flat top with aimpoint IR combo

AR10-T nightforce scope
Barrett M82A1

11-87P 14" tactical.

Link Posted: 10/27/2003 7:26:30 AM EDT
Mine would probably be along the lines of:

Good accurate bolt gun, black, with bipod and nice scope. Probably .308 for commonality of ammo.

Good accurate, RELIABLE carbine. Like my M4gery. At least 6 magazines and plenty of spare ammo. (and a LULA to help loading)

Accurate RELIABLE pistol, either 1911 or CZ75. At least 10 mags for the 1911 and 5 hicaps for the CZ.

That's the basic arsenal. Basically, those are things that would be useful to me, instead of just 'neat to have.'

Link Posted: 10/27/2003 8:31:51 AM EDT
Minimum for me, from most needed to least.

Pocket folder
Carry pistol
Fixed blade knife
Combat rifle
Long range rifle
Combat shotgun
Rimfire pistol
Rimfire rifle

Mine?
Glock 30
Colt AR15A2 GM
Remington 700P
Mossberg 590
Ruger 22/45
Ruger 10/22

Perfect?
Glock 30
M16A2 w/M203
MP5
SR25
Ruger 22/45
Serbu BFG
cans for all but the M203
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 1:34:35 PM EDT
Around 20 lbs of Cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine.

Like the saying goes: Don't show up to a gun fight with only a knife, Or why show up at all when you can plan ahead.
Link Posted: 10/27/2003 7:45:06 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Dano523:
Around 20 lbs of Cyclotrimethylenetrinitramine.


Blessed is the RDX. Ill take two please.
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 3:38:31 AM EDT
Depends on the purpose of the "arsenal." If, as the original poster put it, "....to fit every niche...," I would consider it an "array" of firearms. To me an arsenal has more to do with combat. That said, I have tailored my arsenal (I'm not a hunter, collector, avid "hobbyist" or competitive target shooter - my target shooting is just to keep my eye and hand together, not the ultra fine edge) to fit as many purposes as possible with as few guns as possible.

I have an M1a, a few .45 acp pistols, a couple of .380's, and a .45 derringer. For lightweight carry (note, FL), and low risk environments, I have a couple of Kel-Tec .380's. For most carry, I use a compact .45 (S&W 945). In a SHTF situation, the true answer to the initial premise, and the time I would need an "arsenal" I would have my M1A, a .45, the .45 Derringer (commonality of ammo) and one or two knives, one of which would be a folder. One of the reasons I went from an AR15 to an M1A is that one rifle would fit a couple of needs. In a difficult situation, no time to say "Let's see, the bolt rifle would be better here, so I'll get that out. No, these are closer and more, better to have a semi-auto. Oh, oh, they have some cover, dunno if that caliber is adequate. " Hence the conflict with definitions.
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 12:41:47 PM EDT
I have the perfect small aresenal right here in my place! A Fulton Armory M-14, a CMP Garand accurized by Hook Boutin, and a Springfield Armory "milspec" M1911. After running through almost all the popular designs and calibers I setttled on these because they challenge my marksmanship (with thier weight, and recoil) and yet are easy, (comfortable, great sites) to shoot. As soon as I run out of 30-06 I will get the Garand rebarreled for 7.62, so the logistics get simpler.
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 4:28:30 PM EDT
Rem 700 PSS in .308 w/Nightforce NXS 3.5-15

Colt AR-15 HBAR Carbine Flattop w/flashhider (iron sights on the carry handle and either an Aimpoint or Eotech for close in work)--30 mags.

Glock 19 9mm

DSA StG-58A Model FAL--30 mags

1911 style pistol in .45

S&W Airweight snubby in .357

Ruger 10/22

Ruger .22 pistol

Rem 870 or Mossburg 590 Shotgun
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 5:23:38 PM EDT
My perfect arsenal:

big bore rifle(.50 BMG)
long range bolt action, probably .308 because of ammo availability
ROMAK (SAR-1)
USP .45 or 1911 or walther p99 .40 s&w
H&K MP-5
ruger 10/22 surpresed
ruger mark II
and (with unlimited funds) as many hand grenades as I can cary

and I think it goes without saying multiple mags and plenty of ammo for everything
Link Posted: 10/28/2003 6:21:44 PM EDT


1) S&W 422 6" 22lr

2) S&W 2213 3" 22lr

3) S&W 439 9mm with adjustable sights

4) S&W 3913 9mm compact. uses same mags as 39

5) Remington 870 12 ga.

6) AR 15 Dissapator.

7) M1A full size.

8) Beeman R1 airgun in 22 cal.
Link Posted: 10/29/2003 3:40:19 AM EDT
Well, since you said unlimited funds:

Browning M2, with thousands of rounds of linked assorted ammo.

M16A2 w/M203

M60

MG42

MP5
HK51

Maybe a pistol or something to carry around...
Link Posted: 10/29/2003 4:33:19 PM EDT
M-16A4 qty 2
M-16/M-203 qty 1
M249 qty 1,
M9 qty 1
times 3, is about right. That is a squad of marines, isn't it?
What is the standard load out for an ODA? that may may be better.
Link Posted: 10/30/2003 11:32:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/30/2003 11:33:19 AM EDT by JC_Conn]
My personal cache of arms:

1. Rock River Arms AR-15 16" 5.56 -- 10 mags
2. Mossberg 590 12 gauge
3. Glock 36 .45 ACP - 5 mags
4. 1903A3 Springfield .30-06
5. Smith and Wesson Model 22A .22lr

And to feed those weapons:

1. 2,000 rounds of 55-grain 5.56
2. 2,000 rounds of 62-grain SS109
3. 300 rounds 12 gauge buckshoot (00)
4. 400 rounds 12 gauge birdshot (#7)
5. 2,000 rounds 230-grain .45 ACP
6. 500 rounds 150-grain .30-06
7. 5,000 rounds .22lr

Those weapons and ammo are the SHTF stash.

I'm thinking of replacing the Glock 36 with a Springfield 1911 and about a dozen magazines for it.


Jeremy
Link Posted: 10/30/2003 2:29:10 PM EDT
Sure,

I'll chime in as well:

Pistol: Glock 19 for back up and a Kimber Classic Custom for Carry.

Shotgun: Mossberg 590SP. ( I like pumps)

Rifle: M4gery of your choice and a full length SPR.

Long Range Rifle: Remington 700 PSS in 308

That's about it.

Max
Link Posted: 10/30/2003 7:55:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/30/2003 7:59:52 PM EDT by kingcleophus]
2 Colt Sporter Lightweight(5.56)
2 Colt 1911A1(45ACP)
2 Beretta M9 (9mm PARA)
1 Winchester 1300 Defender(12 GG)
1 Marlin 336CS (30-30 WCF)

If I had to go QUICK then a Ruger 10/22 and a couple of ammo bricks.
Link Posted: 10/31/2003 1:10:56 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/31/2003 2:18:59 PM EDT by Mb121]

Originally Posted By AvengeR15:
What would you buy/own, if you had basically unlimited funds, but had to keep your entire arsenal down to, say, eight or fewer weapons?



Beretta model 92FS pistol
HK USP9 pistol
Sig P228 pistol
HK USP45 pistol w/ tac barrel and suppressor
Kimber Custom TLE II pistol
Bushmaster XM15E2 target rifle pre-ban (would turn into M4gery)
Colt M16A1 rifle with various uppers, stocks, and optics
HK MP5A3 SMG (change out SEF for Navy trigger group)
Link Posted: 10/31/2003 2:22:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By JC_Conn:
My personal cache of arms:

1. Rock River Arms AR-15 16" 5.56 -- 10 mags
2. Mossberg 590 12 gauge
3. Glock 36 .45 ACP - 5 mags
4. 1903A3 Springfield .30-06
5. Smith and Wesson Model 22A .22lr

And to feed those weapons:

1. 2,000 rounds of 55-grain 5.56
2. 2,000 rounds of 62-grain SS109
3. 300 rounds 12 gauge buckshoot (00)
4. 400 rounds 12 gauge birdshot (#7)
5. 2,000 rounds 230-grain .45 ACP
6. 500 rounds 150-grain .30-06
7. 5,000 rounds .22lr

Those weapons and ammo are the SHTF stash.

I'm thinking of replacing the Glock 36 with a Springfield 1911 and about a dozen magazines for it.


Jeremy



Is that all the ammo you got ?
Link Posted: 10/31/2003 2:41:20 PM EDT
Small?

2-3 guys with m16 in prone. 2-3 guys with m16 standing, one on his knee with m16.
Then you gota have atleast zooka guy.
And the guy with the minesweeper.
Oh yea and the guy with the radio.
Oh wait your not talking about little green army men.

Ar15 in .223
.308 battle rifle (with optics)
saiga .12ga shotgun (with variety of shells for utilitarianisim)
a 10/22 (with a can if its legal for you)
a .38spl
and a troll doll

Link Posted: 10/31/2003 3:00:02 PM EDT
It always seems to be one more than I currently have...
Link Posted: 10/31/2003 3:01:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/31/2003 3:02:27 PM EDT by TomJefferson]
I'll let you know as soon as I get there. Please don't hold your breath.

Tj
Link Posted: 10/31/2003 4:04:00 PM EDT
I'm a simple fella

Mossberg 590
Remington 700 PSS w/ nice optics
FAL PARA
Ruger 10/22 w/ nice optics

HK Mark 23 w/ supressor
HK USPC 9mm
Ruger Mark II supressed
Smith & Wesson 686 4"

Gimme that and I'm settled

From a collection stand point I'd add a nice 1911, a BHP and a Walther PPK
Link Posted: 10/31/2003 4:58:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/31/2003 5:00:46 PM EDT by J_Smith]
I'm still trying to decide which AR15 I'd grab........guess it depends on which State I happen to be in......

From a realistic perspective, I'd be happy with one of my AR15's and a Sig P228 with plenty of MecGar 15rnd flush fit high caps. And thats it if I plan on being on foot. An FAL is nice to have as well for long range or a long range bolt gun. My 10/22 is also a serious consideration for foraging - but not for military use - though a suppressed 10/22 would lend itself to possibilities.

In a dream world, I would have the following:

- Colt M4 with M203, Aimpoint ML2 or EoTech, Knights or Arms rail system, Back up iron sights, plenty of good mags and good ammo.

- Quality handgun as backup primarily - for me the Sig Sauer P228 with plenty of good mags and ammo.

- Remington Model 700 PSS or other high quality dedicated bolt action rifle

- Barrett M99,M95 , McMillan, or Robar .50BMG

- Colt M4 with Shrike System installed (auto) or the FN MFG SOCOM version of the M249

- FN/FAL from Belgian factory

- Remington 870 with pistol grip Speedfeed stock, Trijicon Reflex, and 14" improved cylinder choke barrel (USCG issue btw)

- M240B with unlimited ammunition and extra barrels and parts

- 20MM Finnish Lahti for REAL damage

- M3M .50BMG machine gun ( potential replacement to the M2 .50)

- HK MP-5SD

- Suppressed Ruger MKII

............Do I have to move around with all of this?........
Link Posted: 10/31/2003 11:35:24 PM EDT
You don't say if you want to be a collector or a recreational shooter or a hunter or a freedome fighter. Based on your choice of the word "arsenal", I'm going to assume the latter. Incidentally, I am trying to wittle my collection down as well.

1. AR15. Buy lots of uppers, but the most important to me would be a lightweight 16" barrel with A1 sights.
2. Glock 17. Good all-around pistol, always ready to go. Get several highcaps and a light.
3. Glock 26. For concealed carry and/or backup to the G17. Use the spare G17 mags as spares.
4. Ruger MKII. Everyone needs a good 22lr pistol. If you can get it integrally supressed so much the better.
5. Ruger 10/22. See above for MKII.
6. Remington 870. Multiple barrels. Long one for hunting game, short one for hunting men.

Now, 7&8 would be a tossup, pick one combo of either:

(1) S&W 686 plus w/ 4" barrel & a Marlin 1894c in .357
-OR-
(2) 1911 variant (fullsize) & a Marlin Camp Carbine in .45

You could always go with the 1911 with carbine kit, freeing up #8 for a bolt gun in .308.
Link Posted: 10/31/2003 11:36:52 PM EDT
I could get by with:

AR Carbine
FN FAL
2 identical 1911s
S&W 642 Airweight .38
Browning Buckmark .22
Link Posted: 11/1/2003 6:43:41 PM EDT


The Rifles
Link Posted: 11/1/2003 9:23:51 PM EDT
- Fulton Peerless Grade M1 Garand
- Armalite AR10T with Nightforce optics
- Colt M4A4 (mil-spec, not civie) with EOTech 551, KAC RAS, KAC Vertcal Foregrip, and CQB Solutions 3-Point Sling
- DSA SA58 Carbine with Muzzle Break and TA11 ACOG
- Freedom Arms Premier Grade .454 Casull 7.5" bbl
- Colt Python 6" Satin Stainless Steel
- Wilson Combat SDS 4" .45 ACP 1911, Satin Hard-Chromed
- STI Eagle 6.0, Polished Blued Steel

That's makes 8 but if you'll give me just one more:
Browning Citori Gran Lightning 26" 12ga

Plus enough ammo and mags to fill three 54' trailers.
Link Posted: 11/2/2003 4:54:39 AM EDT
My personal very small arsenal:

CQB Rifle---------Select-fire M4A1
Long-Range Rifle--Remington 700PSS in .308
Shotgun-----------Benelli M1014
Handgun-----------Heckler & Koch USP 45 Tactical

Hopefully all (with the exception of the shotgun) will be suppressed around the first of the year.
Link Posted: 11/2/2003 6:37:21 AM EDT
Ruger 10/22
14.5" M4
20" M16A4
PSS .308
Barrett M82A1

Remmington 870

Ruger MkII
Colt 1911

Link Posted: 11/2/2003 9:42:20 AM EDT
(only talking about legally and $$$ "possible" ones)

<Rifle>

CQB:M4-profile AR15 5.56mm w/ M68 CCO & KAC M4QD
GP:M16A4-profile AR15 5.56mm w/ TA31 ACOG
LR:KAC SR25/AR10 .308 w/ Leupold Mark 4

<Shotgun>

Benelli M1 12 gauge

Pistol

Glock 17 or 19 9mm
Kimber 1911 .45 ACP

Link Posted: 11/2/2003 7:27:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/22/2003 5:30:55 AM EDT by AvengeR15]




That is actually ten weapons, but you get the idea.
Link Posted: 11/4/2003 12:27:53 PM EDT
Link Posted: 11/11/2003 7:32:12 PM EDT
KIMBER TLE II WITH M-3
BUSHY M-4 WITH SUREFIRE M-500 /ACOG
SAKO TRG-22 308
H&K SP-89
KIMBER TAC II UL
LOTS OF CLIPS AND AMMO
FOOD
CLOTHING
I WANT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE ON A DIME AND NOT LOADED DOWN. I THINK THIS WOULD JUST ABOUT COVER IT IN COMBAT SITS.
Link Posted: 11/14/2003 5:57:21 AM EDT
MY ARSENAL?
rra middy ar15 A4
imbel FAL
super customized 10/22 bull
izh-27 12ga o/u
moss 500a w/ PG and 18" bbl

PERFECT ARSENAL?
HK 21 308
fullsize UZI w/ can
a couple of m16's 20" and carbine's
PARA FAL
MP5
(all FA, got to shoot them all @ the last VA MG shoot!)
PLUS I'D ADD...
50 CAL.
REM 700 pss
my mossberg, but w/ a 9 shot tube.
duel 1911's

QUESTION...
why are so many people adding the .22? are we talking the perfect SHTF arsenal? or just perect collectors arsenal? dont get me wrong i love my 10/22, but i wouldnt bother taking it for a SHTF.




Link Posted: 11/14/2003 7:20:21 AM EDT
The arsenal noone knows about besides you is the perfect small arsenal.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 1:01:58 AM EDT
Hmmm decisions, decisions....

1. Ar Commando select fire w/ can (for up close and personal.)

2. M1A/M-14 w/ can (to let the neighbors know your still kickin.)

3. Barrett semi auto .50 BMG (when you want to reach out and touch someone.)

4. Benelli M3 Super 90 (for those pesky people who drop by unexpected.)

5. H&K mk 23 w/ can (so the Johnson's don't know you just fragged their cat.)

6. Glock 27 (what they don't know will hurt them)

And all the optics, lights and mags you can cram on em, because we all know that it's not the gun, ITS ALL THE DAMN ACCESSORIES THAT DRAIN THE BANK ACCOUNT.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 1:03:49 AM EDT
Oh yea,

Glad to see most would select the M-14/M1A!!! Excellent choice.
Link Posted: 11/20/2003 2:38:21 PM EDT
Well, if availability and money was no issue:
Kimber TLE II
Glock 19
M4
Custom 7mm on a winchester action with a 16" barrel.
MP5
Thats about all I'd want.
Link Posted: 11/21/2003 5:20:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By 92fs:
Thats about all I'd want.




is this an ARFCOM first?

i cant seem to comprehend these words.

i can ALWAYS think of something else id like. its the nature of the beast.
Link Posted: 11/21/2003 5:34:26 AM EDT

Originally Posted By davidp14:

Originally Posted By 92fs:
Thats about all I'd want.




is this an ARFCOM first?

i cant seem to comprehend these words.

i can ALWAYS think of something else id like. its the nature of the beast.



Actually, I've been trying to whittle my collection down to guns that I find useful and/or actually shoot. I'm tired of having money tied up in shit that sits in a safe & makes me feel special for owning it.
Link Posted: 11/21/2003 9:33:27 AM EDT
your a stronger man than i.
Link Posted: 11/21/2003 12:00:20 PM EDT
I've just started filling the armory and have a ways to go yet. My initial philosophy is ammo oriented- that is, in a SHTF scenario what would be available? I'm gearing weapons toward:

.22LR ( I have a bolt action, a 10/22, and a P22)

5.56/.223 (My AR, and I'm thinking of adding another one when I can)

7.62/.308 (An FAL and a decent scoped bolt gun)

9mm (A couple pistols, maybe add a carbine)

A 12 gauge shotgun would round this out nicely.

These are the "essentials" on my list. Who knows where it will actually end?
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 10:12:02 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/22/2003 10:14:06 AM EDT by Doggonit]
Well, here's the OFFICIAL DOGGONIT CERTIFIED list:

1x Silenced Ruger 77/22 w/ scope
1x Glock 17
1x SIG P226
1x SIG GSR 1911
1x Remington M24 SWS complete kit
1x HK MP7 w/ Z-dot sight w/ silencer
1x HK UMP 45 w/ EoTech 551 with silencer
A few ten thousand rounds of 9mm, .22LR, 4.7x28mm, and .45ACP
A few thousand rounds of .308 Federal Match ammo


That's all... HK sub and smaller one for CQB, Ruger for squirrels, Remy for those long range targets, and LOTS OF HANDGUNS (if I could have one weapon it would have to be a handgun! 9mm!)
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 10:16:39 AM EDT
If it is CARRYABLE essentials then:

1x SIG P226
1x Glock 17
ten loaded mags for each, two holsters, a few boxes of 9mm, big stick

HANDGUN POWER!!!
Link Posted: 11/22/2003 8:03:00 PM EDT
- M4
- M4
- Rem 700PSS
- 590A1

- 1911
- 1911
- Snubby .38
- Ruger 22/45

two M4's and two 1911's as they would be the main weapons

Link Posted: 11/23/2003 4:25:56 PM EDT

Originally Posted By tivoli410:
- M4
- M4
- Rem 700PSS
- 590A1

- 1911
- 1911
- Snubby .38
- Ruger 22/45

two M4's and two 1911's as they would be the main weapons




Main weapons? SPECIALIST TIME!!!

Been watching Face/Off too much? Haha! Twin Gold .45's? And those M4's? You sure you dont want twin Uzi's?

Gonna do some walking up walls and stuff with those? Bullet-time moves?

Link Posted: 11/24/2003 2:39:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 11/24/2003 2:41:21 PM EDT by tivoli410]

Originally Posted By Doggonit:

Originally Posted By tivoli410:
- M4
- M4
- Rem 700PSS
- 590A1

- 1911
- 1911
- Snubby .38
- Ruger 22/45

two M4's and two 1911's as they would be the main weapons




Main weapons? SPECIALIST TIME!!!

Been watching Face/Off too much? Haha! Twin Gold .45's? And those M4's? You sure you dont want twin Uzi's?

Gonna do some walking up walls and stuff with those? Bullet-time moves?
www.specialistsmod.net/images/screenshots/ts_hammertime1.jpg


never seen Face/Off

sweet pic though.. except whats he shooting at?

[edited] the reason for two would be in case one breaks.. replace the parts or switch guns and also for having another pair handy for anyone that I might need to arm.
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