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Posted: 7/22/2003 9:32:01 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/22/2003 9:40:07 PM EDT by Lumpy196]
I have no idea what this gun is:


Indian army personnel patrol at a army camp where guerillas attacked in Tanda, 40 km (25 miles) north of Jammu, India, Tuesday, July 22, 2003. Two suspected Islamic guerillas stormed the army camp in Indian-held Kashmir (news - web sites) on Tuesday, killing at least eight soldiers and wounding more than a dozen others before being slain themselves. (AP Photo/Channi Anand)



I have no idea what this magazine is:


A Filipino soldier guards a wharf in Basilan island, the stronghold of the al Qaeda-linked Abu Sayyaf rebels, before an anti-terrorism demonstration in the remote Lamitan town in the southern Philippines, July 22, 2003. The Philippine government's anti-terrorism move backfired when Indonesian bomb-maker Fathur Rohman Al-Ghozi escaped from his police prison with two other Muslim rebels from Basilan island on Monday of last week. The Philippines offered $93,000 for information on the fugitives. REUTERS/Stringer

Well alrighty then.
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 10:07:37 PM EDT
I'm stumped
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 10:12:34 PM EDT
thats one homosexual looking mag in that M16
Link Posted: 7/22/2003 11:52:34 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Citabria7GCBC:
thats one homosexual looking mag in that M16



yeah, WEIRD!
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 12:02:42 AM EDT
What the....
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 1:07:09 AM EDT
The top picture appears to be an AK veriant with some sort of clear plastic mag.

Link Posted: 7/23/2003 1:42:30 AM EDT
The M16 mag could be for another caliber round. Is it possible that they have M16's made in a round other than 5.56mm? It doesn't make sense that the phillipines would not use the NATO round, but it is possible.
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 1:46:48 AM EDT
India makes their own rifles. The one pictured is based on the AK and is in 5.56mm. I can't recall what the darned thing's called, but I'll keep looking. They went to 5.56mm and looked at buying several different types. They even bought a large quantity of Norinco's in 5.56mm for field tests and came close to stadardizing on them. In the end though they decided to make their own and that is what they wound up with. I'll keep looking to find the name of it.

As for the mag in the second pic, WTF? I guess it's so you can get lower to the ground than if it stuck straight out, but damn! I'd rather just deal with a 30rd and change mages than have something that ugly sticking out. What do you think? 50 rounder?

Ross
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 1:49:16 AM EDT
The guy with the 16 has his finger on the trigger as well.
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 2:06:31 AM EDT
Ok, the Indian rifle is the INSAS. I'm still looking for more details. The mag...who knows?
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 5:39:45 AM EDT
BTT for the smart people that live in the light.
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 6:27:19 AM EDT
My guess:
The mag in the M16 looks like like its two-sided (feeds from both ends). Kind of like having two mags in one.
Maybe?
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 8:32:47 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Ross:

Ok, the Indian rifle is the INSAS.

The mag...who knows?



This place never ceases to amaze me.

(If no one comes up with an answer to the mag I'm gonna believe it was photoshopped.)
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 8:43:17 AM EDT
The Phillipinos are incredible Jerry-Riggers. My guess is that the mag is a home grown deal. If you have ever ridden on their Jeepnies, you would be amazed at what great fender-benders they are.
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 8:46:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By az_larry:

If you have ever ridden on their Jeepnies, you would be amazed at what great fender-benders they are.




Yep - I had that privilege while in the Navy and working on a 'cultural research' project that centered around womenz who worked in bars.................

Link Posted: 7/23/2003 9:19:28 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 7/23/2003 9:19:53 AM EDT by ZRH]
M16 mag looks like a mod so that you can fire it easier when prone?
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 9:34:50 AM EDT
How the heck would any rounds get past the bend in the mag?

Av.
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 9:39:20 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Avalon01:
How the heck would any rounds get past the bend in the mag?

Av.



That's one of the reason I'm wondering about photoshopping. The other is the cammo does not match the rifle and there's too much 'shinny' on the mag for use by most seasoned combat troops. (And those guys are seasoned. Under trained but seasoned.)
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 11:01:05 AM EDT
Top looks to be a Valmet 7.62 RK 95 TP.



Check out this site:
guns.connect.fi/gow/M95.html

Link Posted: 7/23/2003 12:17:23 PM EDT
5subslr5, both photos came off a news service webpage. They arent into photoshopping rifle magazines to confuse us ARFCOMers.
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 12:34:35 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
5subslr5, both photos came off a news service webpage. They arent into photoshopping rifle magazines to confuse us ARFCOMers.



Understand. Then I wonder how well that mag works ?? That puppy has a heckuva curve.
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 12:48:06 PM EDT
I for the life of me cant tell. And it looks like it has some sort of synthetic white edging, because you notice it makes the magazine as wide as the magazine well. So Im assuming it ends where the magazine meets the mag well.

VERY strange.
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 12:56:35 PM EDT
Now I wanna see how he gets that mag into a magpouch.
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 3:09:39 PM EDT
...Top looks like thier own version of S.A.R...........(maybe they issue curved mags to the guys with bent dicks...so the womenz can tell who`s who ??? )..
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 3:17:52 PM EDT
That is indeed one crazy mag. Wow.
Link Posted: 7/23/2003 4:53:44 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Lumpy196:
I for the life of me cant tell. And it looks like it has some sort of synthetic white edging, because you notice it makes the magazine as wide as the magazine well. So Im assuming it ends where the magazine meets the mag well.

VERY strange.



Part of the time when I look at the edging it looks like aluminum. Other times it looks like.....well I don't know what it looks like.

Maybe this is the guy's 'full dress, in town' mag !!
Link Posted: 7/24/2003 3:19:47 AM EDT
OK, follow-up on the INSAS, click on the link.

securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2500/2534.htm

Now...that mag....

Ross
Link Posted: 7/24/2003 8:30:55 PM EDT
It's the new tactical Prone mag
made but squished Banana Industries
Link Posted: 7/25/2003 2:09:43 PM EDT
INSAS=galikanov? or kalashnagil?

the Phillipino mag looks like a limited production jig made affair....maybe made by the guys brother or uncle or something. Early M16 thirty rounders and even VERY early ak 30 rounders had strange appearnaces also....though NOWHERE near as odd as that thing. The Phillipinos often play by their own interesting set of rules.
Link Posted: 7/25/2003 4:58:11 PM EDT
Well, you guys know how Sig550 and G36 mags clip together like this:




Well, the Filipino mags also clip together, but end to end, like this:

Link Posted: 7/25/2003 10:39:32 PM EDT

Originally Posted By -Duke-Nukem-:

Well, the Filipino mags also clip together, but end to end, like this:
photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=15219



Link Posted: 7/26/2003 7:37:18 AM EDT

Originally Posted By -Duke-Nukem-:
Well, you guys know how Sig550 and G36 mags clip together like this:

photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=15220


Well, the Filipino mags also clip together, but end to end, like this:

photos.ar15.com/ImageGallery/Attachments/DownloadAttach.asp?iImageUnq=15219



I've got to get them mags !!
Link Posted: 7/26/2003 2:55:42 PM EDT
Okay, since my thread will soon be closed, I'll add my photochopped version of the mag.

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