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Posted: 6/12/2003 4:20:34 AM EDT
HI guys, I have limited intel available to me. I get conflicting answers. A backyard gunsmith said their diffrent, I can only use what I'm already useing? Can I use both in my .308 Savage 10fp ? I've used 762X51 already with good results, NOT GREAT, good, but are'nt both .308 ? PLEASE ADVISE
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 4:22:03 AM EDT
A 7.62 X 54 will NOT work in a 308.
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 4:34:57 AM EDT
These rounds are not interchangeable.
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 8:31:30 AM EDT
THANKS guys, I'm in a commie state and having trouble trying to get ammo shipped here and just running around like a chicken w/ head cut off. THE AG here wants to keep the ammo sales here for the $$$$. I found out the 762X51= .308 The other 762X54 is a russian round I was told. Anyways what I ordered is the right stuff(its in transit) and I did not know which it was........I got to go shoot myself so'ta'speak.
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 11:39:50 AM EDT


www.entreprise.com/News/images/sgn_3d.gif

The 7.62x51 NATO round is on the left. The 7.62x54R round is in the center. Both bullets measure around .30 caliber but the likeness ends from there. The biggest difference is in base of the cartridge, I'm not sure if the "R" stands for "Russian" or for "Rimmed" but there's a huge rim and a wide base to the cartridge.
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 11:47:34 AM EDT
Fun with scanners:



From left to right:

7.62x51 NATO (FN-FAL, M14, G3)
7.62x39 (AK-47, SKS)
7.62x54R (Dragunov, Mosin-Nagant)
5.56x45 NATO (AR15/M16, G36, Steyr Aug)
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 11:53:10 AM EDT
You've got way too much time on your hands Duke!
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 11:58:26 AM EDT
Either that or too many calibers lying around. Anyone want to see a 5.45x39 vs. a .45 acp? LOL!
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 12:04:56 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 5:26:16 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By -Duke-Nukem-:
Either that or too many calibers lying around. Anyone want to see a 5.45x39 vs. a .45 acp? LOL!

Ha! I have a box of .22 Hornet and one round of 7mm Weatherby Magnum in the house and I have never owned a rifle that fired either round. Top that!



Ha! I've got a round or two of 7.62x54R (R=rimmed), one or two .45-70's and one .38-70 Winchester. Also, I still have a box of .357 RemMax.
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 6:08:32 PM EDT
I found an old tarnished .38 Special round in a box of Russian 5.45.
Do I top you?
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 8:10:29 PM EDT
No, I think the .357 RemMax wins, as I have never even heard of that caliber.

/me hangs his head in shame
Link Posted: 6/12/2003 8:29:44 PM EDT
I've got a case of 7.62X54R 'hunting' ammo with nothing in that caliber. Found the ammo when I moved and guess I must have gotten it with some gun I bought as I sure don't remember buying any.
Link Posted: 6/13/2003 8:24:12 AM EDT
I have some 50 SLAP and a 2mm pinfire. BEAT THAT! I have a bullet collection that I am working on, have over 300rds to date of differant calibers and types.

SorryOciffer
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 3:36:53 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Aimless:

Originally Posted By -Duke-Nukem-:
Either that or too many calibers lying around. Anyone want to see a 5.45x39 vs. a .45 acp? LOL!

Ha! I have a box of .22 Hornet and one round of 7mm Weatherby Magnum in the house and I have never owned a rifle that fired either round. Top that!



I bid a 460 Weatherby Magnum cartridge.
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 3:45:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 4:41:29 PM EDT
Sheeeeeit my brothers!

I got you all beat!

I have: Voere caseless electric primed cartridge, 6 and 8 guage shotgun shells, 3 different sizes of pinfire rounds, British 9mm rimfire shotgun shells, 25, 32, 38, and 44 caliber rimfire cartridges, .45 acp shotshells (USGI!), 4mm German ZimmerShutzen cartridges, Brass 12 guage cartridges from WW1, Dardick "Trounds", a Gyrojet 13mm cartridge to name a few.


I also have some 75 or so full boxes of ammo from the early and middle 1900s, and about 200 various other cartridges displayed in my reloading room.


Balming
Link Posted: 6/15/2003 8:49:44 PM EDT
DAMN YOU ALL BASTAGES hijacking my "oops I'm shitting my pants again", I might have ordered the wrong ammo thread To go off trying to out due ea. others rarest/biggest/flexing ammo track! mmmmmmmm......I have a 44-40 cartridge w/ Jessy James finger print on it....NaaaNaaNaaaa!
Link Posted: 6/16/2003 6:05:44 AM EDT
Back to the 7.62x51=7.62x54R its good to see that you got the straight but DO NOT mix it up with the 7.62x51R. There's two rimmed 30 cal cartridges stateside that have the same dia and length but rimmed. They are better known as 30-30 Winchester (30 WCF) and .307 Winchester.

7.62x51 is the military (7.62 NATO) name for .308 Winchester just as 5.56x45 is .223 Remington and the 7.62x63 is cal.30 Model of 1906, .30 US Govt, 30-06, .30 M2, .30 M1 etc.

De Oppresso Liber
Link Posted: 6/18/2003 9:37:52 PM EDT
Does anyone have these laying around?

.222 rem mag and a .222 rem mag improved of some sort.

Got these given to me when I was given my .222
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 6:30:05 AM EDT

Originally Posted By clindt:
Does anyone have these laying around?

.222 rem mag and a .222 rem mag improved of some sort.

Got these given to me when I was given my .222



clindt,
check your mags carefully and make certain they don't say 'ArmaLite" any where on them........there were a very few ArmaLite mags made when they were testing the .222 back in the 50's.

5sub
Link Posted: 6/19/2003 6:46:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/19/2003 6:48:19 AM EDT by frisco]

Originally Posted By Aimless:
Bah! Pikers! I have some mysterious reloads from 20 years ago that are in 30-06 cases but clearly are not 30-06, far too short. I have moved them 7 times back and forth across New York state!



Are you sure you don't have to have a license for something like that in NY?
Link Posted: 6/20/2003 10:57:56 AM EDT
5sub,

I was talking about 222 magnums not magazines. Were you talking about magazines or did armalight make some ammo?
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