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Posted: 10/18/2002 5:19:42 PM EDT
See topic.

Is.. this... *gulp* true? NOOOOOoooooo!!!!

Doggonit
Link Posted: 10/18/2002 5:21:24 PM EDT
WTF, over?

-Gloftoe
Link Posted: 10/18/2002 5:25:21 PM EDT
Someone else on the board said they were crap!?!?! Is this true? I always thought that the Remington 700 series are very good.
Link Posted: 10/18/2002 5:27:21 PM EDT
I've got one in .270Win, synthetic. My primary deer boom-stick. Never had a lick of problems with it (although the trigger is a little light, but that's not a bad thing).

Where did you see that they were crap? Got a link?

-Gloftoe
Link Posted: 10/18/2002 5:34:48 PM EDT
That's right , Remington 700 series rifles are crap .That's why 99% of ALL MILITARY SNIPERS ARE BUILT ON THE REMINGTON PLATFORM ! Don't listen to those who shop price and not quality . I have a Remington 700 PSS in 300 Winchester Magnum that shoots 5 round 3/8" groups @ 100 yards right out of the box !

So what have the ANTI-REMINGTON idiots been telling you? My neighbor , Tactical Commander of the Arizona FBI SWAT Team says they have one Remington sniper gun that shoots one hole with the right operator !

Link Posted: 10/18/2002 5:39:44 PM EDT
Better off with the 700 than the 710. Unless you can afford a Tikka.
IMO.
MM419


I understadn this as meaning that the Tikka is better than the 700 which is not much better than the 710 (a POS as said by earlier posters in that thread). Others in that thread also hinted that the 700 was over-rated and not really worth it. I am glad that the 700 is really as good as they say it is. I thought for a second that the M24 and the LTR were some cheap Mosin Nagants.
Link Posted: 10/18/2002 6:09:17 PM EDT
don't believe everything you read
Link Posted: 10/18/2002 6:16:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/18/2002 6:20:21 PM EDT by M700-308]
Sure, the 700 is bad, real bad if you are on the other end of it......



JerrY
Link Posted: 10/18/2002 6:32:03 PM EDT
I have heard about a few bent barrels, but mine is great.
Link Posted: 10/18/2002 7:54:07 PM EDT
i prefer the ruger line my self.but the remington 700 is my next choice.they all have potential for problems.none will ever compare to the winchester pre-64 model 70,but thats ok
Link Posted: 10/18/2002 8:17:39 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/18/2002 8:19:18 PM EDT by BusMaster007]
According to some folks, the Winchester Stealth is THE SHIT.

Police Marksman magazine has a section called the Tactical Marksman, written by Kent Gooch.
He stated in the first article he was going to upset some people with forthcoming information re equipment selection.
He also stated that you either have a rifle/platform that will do the job, or NOT.

I'm waiting to be upset. I have a Remington 700 PSS in .308 that was purchased with the intent of making it right for ME, not everyone else.
Scott Powers at snipercountry.com e-mailed me back once with a remark to the effect that I SHOULD build MY rifle for ME. Kinda like what I was going to do in the first place. That made me feel pretty good about my choices of components and the idea I had.

My rifle will do the job for me.
For a Tactical Marksman, maybe.
For a Military Sniper, NO.
Those are 3 distinct tools for different uses.

Gooch is the real deal, and I admire him, trust his convictions, and enjoy reading his work.
He definetly will be rockin' the boat.

Should be interesting to see what the article presents.
This is what I cooked up so far:



Link Posted: 10/19/2002 6:01:15 AM EDT
Man.....700`s are great.......but if you could only get it KRUGERIZED..........
Link Posted: 10/19/2002 8:04:08 AM EDT
Remington 700's suck when you are comparing them to rifles such as Gardner's, McMillan's, and other high end precision rifles. I am a huge fan of the 700 rifles. My VS is just as good as anything out there.
Link Posted: 10/19/2002 11:06:29 AM EDT
And on what action do they build their rifles? 700s.
Link Posted: 10/19/2002 11:33:21 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Jim_Dandy:
And on what action do they build their rifles? 700s.



Exactly!
Link Posted: 10/19/2002 3:48:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/19/2002 3:52:52 PM EDT by tony_k]
First, lemmie say that I love Rem 700s.

But....

I got a good deal on a 22-250 VSSF a coupla years back because it had been rebarrelled by the factory. It seems when they sent it out the first time, it was a smoothbore: Someone forgot to rifle the barrel. Even though Remington made it right, the buyer never trusted it.

Remington quality control has been all over the place the last decade. Buy one "new" -- you never know how long it has been in a dealer's inventory -- and ya never know what you'll get when you open the box.

The 700 action is a really great basis for a lot of custom guns. Its only drawback is it has no front receiver lug to bed, but you can get one added when you rebarrel. And yeah, you'd better rebarrel if you're interested in minute-of-scrumbag (versus minute-of-deer). The PSS barrels are better than the regular-production tubes, though.

As far as EXTREME accuracy, I'll take a rifle built on a Nesika or Rampro action. If I win the lottery, I'll drop the big bucks for an Accuracy International rig. But for affordable, real-world accuracy/reliability, a 700-based custom sets the standard.
Link Posted: 10/19/2002 4:45:57 PM EDT
A Rem 700 is about the best you can buy for less than 1K. I have a heavy barrel Varmint Special in .308 that was the tightest shooting rifle I ever had until I bought an Accuracy International AE. As my buddy who is a police SWAT sniper says, the special ops guys can buy anything they want, and they buy Remingtons. Enough said.


Link Posted: 10/20/2002 5:25:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/20/2002 5:33:05 AM EDT by 82ndAbn]
My 700 PSS/PDM is soooo sweet. I'm biased when it comes to the .308 though - so I bought another one in ADL black synthetic.

Both .308s are primo excellente, mi amigo!

The Jarheads use the 700 PSS with a Win. M-70 trigger and a modified action (Nikista?) as their sniper weapon.

Link Posted: 10/20/2002 5:38:05 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/20/2002 5:39:01 AM EDT by 82ndAbn]
If I had $1,100 I'd get one of these though:



Steyr SSG-PIIK



Kaliber:
7.62x51 mm NATO ( .308 Win.)

Uivoering:
Bolt Action

Loop:
508 mm

Weight:
4.46 kg

Length:
991 mm

Magazine:
5 schots

Trigger:
2 Stage, enkele trekker

Link Posted: 10/20/2002 5:40:44 AM EDT
You cannot go wrong with the Rem 700. I have worked on 3 of the LTR's in the last 3 or 4 months (1 .223 and 2 .308s) those rifles shoot sub MOA (around 3/4")with Fed Match ammo at 100 yds right out of the box. With a little tweaking (clean up trigger, skim bed action) they will shoot even better.

The other thing about the 700 is that aftermarket parts/upgrades are readily available if you need them.

You should look at the LTR if you haven't. They make a fine hunting rifle as well as a great weekend paper puncher/shooter.
Link Posted: 10/20/2002 9:34:36 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Doggonit:
Someone else on the board said they were crap!?!?! Is this true? I always thought that the Remington 700 series are very good.





I say the world is flat.
Link Posted: 10/20/2002 10:04:44 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 10/20/2002 11:03:27 AM EDT by Headless_T_Gunner]
Remington 700 is a great rifle. There is a nice one for sale in the equipment exchange section of this forum in Rifles and Shotguns. It's a deal. Better hurry. It'll go fast at that price!
Link Posted: 10/21/2002 11:06:09 AM EDT
The Army went after the best sniper rifle they could find. A variant of the 700 is now the M24. 'Nuff said. My 700 PSS is a tack driver 7 days a week and twice on Sundays. My 700 VS is a sweet shooting .22-250. Wouldn't have them if they were junk. And I don't need to buy a Steyr Scout for accuracy.
Link Posted: 10/21/2002 3:50:20 PM EDT
As far as stock rifles go the 788 was better. Remington discontinued the 788 which was cheaper then the 700, because it was out shooting their "flagship" rifle.
Link Posted: 10/21/2002 4:05:51 PM EDT
I have had my 700 BDL for over 20 years, the most dependable accurate weapon I own,(and I own quite a few). In 20 years of hunting with my 700 BDL in 30.06, I have NEVER missed a deer(I will probably miss my next 10 deer for saying that!)
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