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Posted: 6/25/2002 6:58:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/25/2002 7:00:33 PM EDT by Gavino]
I'm looking to buy a new rifle. American Spirit Arms CAR 16" post-ban or Cavalry Arms. I have an old Colt AR15 SP1 that I don't want to shoot up. How are both companies in making the rifle and customer service? I want to buy locally and to support them. Thanks
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 7:09:07 PM EDT
I have no real experience with any of them but I was always told that ASA were junk and the guys on the board from Cav Arms are pretty cool.

Keving67
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 7:09:40 PM EDT
Why would a Colt get "shot up," when there are Freshly made Parts to drop in and fix any problems that come up???????????
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 7:18:23 PM EDT
Out of those 2, I'd go with Cav Arms.
I'm not a big Colt fan, but I doubt any harm will come to it by shooting it.
They are quality rifles. Are you just wanting to collect it?
I'd also look into Rock River Arms & Bushmaster.

~Enjoy!

Link Posted: 6/25/2002 7:24:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/25/2002 7:26:20 PM EDT by bill3508]
Your not going to find many fans of ASA on here. Try Rock River, or Bushmaster. If you just have to buy locally for some reason buy Cavalry Arms products. ASA products are crap plain and simple and there is no customer service.
BIll3508
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 7:43:07 PM EDT
just buy a different upper for your SP1...unless you must have another AR
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 8:03:15 PM EDT

Originally Posted By keving67:
I have no real experience with any of them but I was always told that ASA were junk and the guys on the board from Cav Arms are pretty cool.

Keving67



Actually, I have built a few ASA AR rifles and they were all great shooters. However, their customer service is what really sucks. If you ever have a problem they are often abusive and of no help. I would not buy a complete rifle from them, but have no problems with their kits. However, I fix any problems myself and leave them outa it.

Cavarms I hear rocks!

Sgtar15
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 8:03:18 PM EDT
The Cavalry Arms guys are cool. They stand behind their products. I've built rifles from an ASA kit (on a DPMS lower) and Cavalry Arms lowers (on miscellaneous uppers). I haven't had any problems with either. I've never had any problems with ASA myself, but have seen many complaints. I haven't had any problems with Cavalry Arms either, but I'm confident that they'd bend over backwards to help their customers. If you haven't met the Cavalry Arms guys or held one of their rifles, go to the next gun show and check them out.
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 8:11:04 PM EDT
I currently work in Scottsdale,AZ and I had the unpleasant experience of actually walking into ASA and "chatting" with the jerk,er, salesperson that was working there that day. Suffice to say, it's the kind of place I'd recommend to someone that I really didn't like. Though I personally have zero experience with Cav Arms, I've seen a lot of positive comments here about them. I'd buy one of their weapons.
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 8:19:49 PM EDT
Go with the Cav, I have one and soon to have more, great product, great follow up service and no hassle. The guys are friendly and easy to get ahold of by email if you have a problem too.
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 8:23:16 PM EDT
Friendly, not to forget resourceful (borrowed from another post)



Keving67
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 8:28:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 8:30:38 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 8:32:10 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:
keving67, great minds think alike! hehe



They sure do

Keving67
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 8:32:52 PM EDT
I didn't really know the whole story behind the hoopty ride but I can only imagine it is hilarious as hell.

Keving67
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 8:34:42 PM EDT
Gavino what part of Az do you live in?

Oh and I cant give unbiased info here as im part of the Cav Arms Crew.
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 9:03:00 PM EDT
I live in Chandler, Arizona what part of Arizona do you live in. I found a Bushmaster XM15E2S M4 Type Post Ban Carbine for under $900 at two stores in the east valley. Is that a good price?
I want to keep my Colt in good working order and shoot the heck out of the new rifle.
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 9:13:16 PM EDT
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 9:14:34 PM EDT
Well I live near Chandler Blvd. and Rural.
What shops did you find the Bushmasters at? If you want the Fake Telestock thats more than likely your best bet. But if you want to build your own I would highley recomend you buy a Cav lower from Shawn and slap your own upper on it. I have 2 ASA uppers one A2 and one flat top. Never had a problem with either. The A2 is on my Cav, and the flattop is on my Bushmaster M4gery.

Link Posted: 6/25/2002 9:17:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/25/2002 9:18:51 PM EDT by TheFNG]



BRC where Garryowen had his first drink of alcohol on Sat. night.




LOL Garryowen, First Drink, I dont think so.
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 9:22:31 PM EDT
Does anyone on these posts work for Cav Arms?
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 9:24:57 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Citabria7GCBC:
Does anyone on these posts work for Cav Arms?



Not full time but yes I do.
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 9:41:35 PM EDT
Why do you ask?
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 9:49:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 6/25/2002 9:49:34 PM EDT by Citabria7GCBC]
i was wondering how much a pre-ban m4 would cost, and you Cav Arms guys seem like you could be a good choice. but i want to do some cross price checks from alot of dealers to see what the best deal is.

thats why i ask
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 9:56:35 PM EDT
I cant be of much help with a Pre-Ban M4. But call the shop and Shawn may be able to track one down for you.

Or are you looking for a PreBan Upper?
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 9:57:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By thebeekeeper1:

Originally Posted By keving67:
I didn't really know the whole story behind the hoopty ride but I can only imagine it is hilarious as hell.

Keving67


It is probably told in detail in the "CruiseAmerica" thread. The gist of it is they rented a deluxe motor coach from CA and it broke down. When they called for assistance, CA said to just get a taxi and they would refund the rental $. Cav Arms said they couldn't do that as they were a Class III mfr. carrying a load of MG's. CA said to sit tight. They then called the Oklahoma State Police who responded with the equivilant of a SWAT team, guns drawn, apparently assuming the worst. This made for a tense situation while the paperwork was verified. When it was determined our guys were "legit" they were able to buy the above-pictured "cruise wagon" and proceed to the BRC where Garryowen had his first drink of alcohol on Sat. night. There may be more details, but I should be pretty close. All in all, they were great guys, good sports, and THEY BROUGHT NSFJOJO, our pet f*****g monkey, to amuse us.



Absolutely hilarious!

Keving67
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 9:57:12 PM EDT
no i am looking to get and entire pre-ban M4
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 9:58:27 PM EDT
So Beekeeper, NSFjojo isn't part of cavarms but just friends with the guys?

Keving67
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 9:58:59 PM EDT
hell, 1 to go untill I reach the magical 500!

Keving67
Link Posted: 6/25/2002 10:20:20 PM EDT

Originally Posted By keving67:
hell, 1 to go untill I reach the magical 500!

Keving67

i am waiting untill the magical 1000 to post a celibration!
Link Posted: 6/26/2002 12:17:28 AM EDT

Originally Posted By keving67:
So Beekeeper, NSFjojo isn't part of cavarms but just friends with the guys?

Keving67




No Jojo is not one of the Cav Arms Crew he works next door at Arizona Expert Arms.
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