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Posted: 5/22/2002 11:51:31 PM EDT
I just got my PSS last weekend and now the only thing I need is a scope. I want a scope that can go up to 5, 6 hundred yards, that can see the target very clear and in detail. I have about 800 bucks to burn, so any suggestions?
Link Posted: 5/23/2002 12:40:46 AM EDT
The leupold vari XIII long range tactical scopes are great.
Link Posted: 5/23/2002 1:57:18 AM EDT
Ditto schapman43, Leupold Vari X III w/ Mil-Dots and turrets. Precision rifles need precision optics to realize their full potential.

Mike
Link Posted: 5/23/2002 3:10:42 AM EDT
What Schapman and Wilson said. You can perhaps pay more money for ever so incrementally improved specifications, but the Leupolds have an unmatched track record. There are a few other scopes I would like to try but my choice for a mission critical piece of glass is Leupold.
Link Posted: 5/23/2002 3:39:12 AM EDT
3.5-10x40 VARI-X-III L/R M1

or a 3.5-10x40 VARI-X-III M3

GIB
Link Posted: 5/23/2002 5:39:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/23/2002 5:40:15 AM EDT by Yojimbo]
GIbrat,

Are those 3.5-10x Vari-X III's you have pictured the same except for the target knob? I'm thinking of sending my Tactical 3.5-10x Vari-X III back to Leupold for the new Mil-Dot2 cross hairs, what do you think of them? I also wanted to get the M1 or M3 target turrets on them, what are pros and cons of each style?

Thanks,

Chris
Link Posted: 5/23/2002 7:55:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/23/2002 8:01:52 AM EDT by SIX]
I have ovals, IMHO - round would be easier to divide up. However,YMMV.


M1 is 1/4 MOA clicks.

M3 is a BDC

Cams a great if they are calibrated to YOUR ammo. If you want a Cam, a blank turret that you have engraved for you would be best - IMHO.


*I think* M3s are 1/2 MOA. Which mean not a precise, however it also means fewer clicks to get to a longer distance (ie - less chance of messing up the count)

Better confim that last part though.

Good luck
Link Posted: 5/23/2002 8:01:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/23/2002 8:04:05 AM EDT by FirearmTom1]

Originally Posted By Yojimbo:
GIbrat,

Are those 3.5-10x Vari-X III's you have pictured the same except for the target knob? I'm thinking of sending my Tactical 3.5-10x Vari-X III back to Leupold for the new Mil-Dot2 cross hairs, what do you think of them? I also wanted to get the M1 or M3 target turrets on them, what are pros and cons of each style?

Thanks,

Chris



You could also send it to www.premierreticles.com

Link Posted: 5/23/2002 9:25:58 AM EDT
FirearmTom1,

Yeah, that's the the one I'm talking about. I thought Premier was part of Leupold. Did you get this done on yours? IF so how do you like the gen2 Mil-Dots?

Later!
Link Posted: 5/23/2002 9:55:51 AM EDT
I have a 700P with a Vari-X III M3. The increments are 1 moa for elevation, 1/2 moa for windage. I like the scope, but it is my first real scope, so I really can't compare. Try

www.snipercountry.com/inreview.htm

for some good optics reviews. Have heard good things about Nikon scopes also. If you spend that much on a scope, consider buying a good one piece base and rings (like Badger Ordnance, which run $150 or so).
Link Posted: 5/23/2002 11:01:54 AM EDT
GI_Brat how much does the 3.5-10x40 VARI-X-III L/R M1 cost??? Can you see clearly at 5, 600 hundred yards??? I am planning on going hunting this Dec for the firt time??? Thats is another topic
Link Posted: 5/23/2002 12:11:59 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/23/2002 12:30:40 PM EDT by Bob243]
Leupold Vari-X III 6.5-20 Long Range Target on my PSS .308

22 cal holes can be seen clearly at 300 yards through this scope



Only thing I have left to do is upgrade to Badger rings and bases

Link Posted: 5/23/2002 12:49:50 PM EDT
GI_Brat gave you the two perfect solutions. Look no further. Watch-Six
Link Posted: 5/23/2002 1:25:48 PM EDT

Originally Posted By j00e:
GI_Brat how much does the 3.5-10x40 VARI-X-III L/R M1 cost??? Can you see clearly at 5, 600 hundred yards??? I am planning on going hunting this Dec for the firt time??? Thats is another topic


I think I paid around $700.00 each.
I have never tried it out that far, but I am sure with the increase in magnification to 10x and adjusting the side focus you should be able to see a long distance.

GIB
Link Posted: 5/23/2002 1:29:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Yojimbo:
GIbrat,

Are those 3.5-10x Vari-X III's you have pictured the same except for the target knob? I'm thinking of sending my Tactical 3.5-10x Vari-X III back to Leupold for the new Mil-Dot2 cross hairs, what do you think of them? I also wanted to get the M1 or M3 target turrets on them, what are pros and cons of each style?

Thanks,

Chris


I think all your questions have been answered by other members....you can't go wrong with either scope..it just depends on what different bells and whistles you want.
GIB
Link Posted: 5/23/2002 1:40:36 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/23/2002 1:41:16 PM EDT by GI_Brat]

Originally Posted By SIX:
...snip...
M3 is a BDC

Cams a great if they are calibrated to YOUR ammo. If you want a Cam, a blank turret that you have engraved for you would be best - IMHO.
...snip...

Good luck


I use the 5.56/.223 cam on my Varminter. The cam is calibrated to 55 grn.. The one for my M1A is calibrated for a 168 grn.

GIB
Link Posted: 5/23/2002 2:40:16 PM EDT
MY RIFLE:

Remington 700 PSS in .308
Badger Ordnance one-piece base w/20MOA ramp
Badger Ordnance 30mm "high" rings
Springfield Armory 2nd Generation Government Model 4-14X56AO scope
Harris LM-S 9"-13" bipod
Uncle Mike's black sling and quick-release swivels
Butler Creek flip-up scope covers

Link Posted: 5/23/2002 10:26:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/25/2002 9:39:43 AM EDT by Troy]
Link Posted: 5/24/2002 1:05:12 PM EDT
Troy,I lust for a 5R barrel.
My P has a Leupy 4.5X14 M1
My PSS has a Tasco SS 10X
M21 has the Unertl 10X.
I actually can't tell any difference optically.
cpermd
Link Posted: 5/25/2002 1:59:01 AM EDT
I was checking leopold's web site and saw Vari-X III 6.5-20X 50mm Matte. Does this have a longer range then the 3.5-10x VARI-XIII?
Link Posted: 5/25/2002 9:54:02 AM EDT

Originally Posted By j00e:
I was checking Leuopold's web site and saw Vari-X III 6.5-20X 50mm Matte. Does this have a longer range then the 3.5-10x VARI-XIII?



Some folks would say the 6.5-20x is too much scope for a .308. I see them frequently on .50BMG precision rifles. I say use what you want. The 3.5-10x is a pretty good fit for cartridge. So is the 4.5-14x. Depends on the job you want to do. It still amazes me how some experienced marksmen get better scores with lower power scopes. My LTR has detachable mounts for a selection of glass.
Link Posted: 5/25/2002 11:18:45 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/26/2002 7:03:55 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Bob243:
Leupold Vari-X III 6.5-20 Long Range Target on my PSS .308

22 cal holes can be seen clearly at 300 yards through this scope



Only thing I have left to do is upgrade to Badger rings and bases




Yes, hightly recommended. I have this scope (Leupold p/n: 52199) w/Mil-Dot reticle.

It is the clearest scope i've seen through. Worth every cent I paid for it AND THEN SOME.

Link Posted: 5/30/2002 6:40:05 PM EDT
j00e, I have a new Leupold Mk4 M1 16x40, duplex reticle, side focus scope with all the accesories for sale. The scope was removed from the box, but never mounted. Send me an email if you're interested before I put it up for auction (it's in your price range).
Link Posted: 5/30/2002 6:41:35 PM EDT
j00e, I have a new Leupold Mk4 M1 16x40, duplex reticle, side focus scope with all the accesories for sale. The scope was removed from the box, but never mounted. Send me an email if you're interested before I put it up for auction (it's in your price range).
Link Posted: 5/30/2002 7:11:34 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/30/2002 7:12:21 PM EDT by cnatra]

Originally Posted By GI_Brat:
3.5-10x40 VARI-X-III L/R M1



I would go with the setup above
Link Posted: 5/30/2002 7:56:17 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Yojimbo:
FirearmTom1,

Yeah, that's the the one I'm talking about. I thought Premier was part of Leupold. Did you get this done on yours? IF so how do you like the gen2 Mil-Dots?

Later!



This one is a 1/4 moa dot. I bought it with the rifle.

I am going to change it.

Leupold "Premier Reticle" 6.5 x 20 x 50 long range on a Savage Tactical 308


Leupold 8.5 x 25 x 50 long range on a "Harris Custom" 338 Lapua



Leupold 3.5 x 10 x 40 Tactical on a McMillian 300 win mag



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