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Posted: 4/24/2002 12:43:48 PM EDT
I am getting kind of bored hauling the old bolt action around every hunting season, and have been thinking of using a military semi-auto. Which rifle would be best?

My shots tend to be long, so it needs good (MOA) accuracy.

I like the M1A because it will get less dirty looks from the "sportsmen," but from what I understand it is a poor platform for optics and it is difficult to maintain great accuracy.

Is the AR-10 the best choice? Besides good accuracy and compatabiliy with optics, it is appealing that they might be coming out with a 300 short mag upper.
Link Posted: 4/24/2002 12:48:05 PM EDT
.458 SOCOM AR-15!! a 30 round mag will hold 10 and they hit like a hammer!!





I love my TROMIX Sledgehammer in .458 SOCOM!!

Link Posted: 4/24/2002 12:51:30 PM EDT
A Garand! I really want to get a nice Garand, and get proficient enough with the sights to hunt deer with the old -06 and iron sights. Not sure about optics options for it though.
Link Posted: 4/24/2002 12:55:01 PM EDT
Well, how long is long? And what are you hunting for squirrel or deer?

If it's varmints, the the AR-15 is a great platform.

I'm kind of assuming by your comments about the M1A and AR-10 that it is more likely medium sized game. I think a good quality FAL with a quality scope mount would be an option or maybe an M1A scout with the forward mounted optics (both depending on distance).
Link Posted: 4/24/2002 1:00:12 PM EDT

Originally Posted By esq1995:
Well, how long is long? And what are you hunting for squirrel or deer?


People hunt squirrels?

I am hunting big deer and small elk. Long is 400 yards.
Link Posted: 4/24/2002 1:04:39 PM EDT

Originally Posted By HighlandMac:
.458 SOCOM AR-15!!


What is the trajectory like? Where can I get one, and how much does it cost?
Link Posted: 4/24/2002 1:46:43 PM EDT
The problem with using military semi-autos for hunting is most aren't really set up for optics and with possible exception of an AR 10 you looking at a pretty heavy rig. An M1A with scope should easily top ten pounds, more if you use medium or heavy barrel. FAL and H & K won't be much if any lighter. And a 400 yard shot with a 308 on large deer or elk sounds like the edge of the envelope.

Link Posted: 4/24/2002 3:16:12 PM EDT
Heckler and Koch PSG-1
Link Posted: 4/24/2002 4:15:32 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/24/2002 4:35:08 PM EDT
PSG-1? Thats nuts man, theres a reason why recon snipers dont use that, cause its a big heavy bulky bastard. I say its only good for target shooting. For hunting? Try a springfield m1a, they're great weapons, and depending on the model you can pull off sub-moa. A little pricey, but you also get the punch you need from the .308. Easy for follow up shots if you screw up like i do. =D
Link Posted: 4/24/2002 5:44:33 PM EDT
HK91

Link Posted: 4/24/2002 5:45:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By imposter:

Originally Posted By HighlandMac:
.458 SOCOM AR-15!!


What is the trajectory like? Where can I get one, and how much does it cost?



www.teppojutsu.com
Link Posted: 4/25/2002 7:18:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By HighlandMac:
.458 SOCOM AR-15!! a 30 round mag will hold 10 and they hit like a hammer!!

I love my TROMIX Sledgehammer in .458 SOCOM!!




Well That takes it. A .458 SOCOM on an AR15 lower is as good as it gets. I have used one and loved it. .458 to the flesh it won't go any farther then that...
Link Posted: 4/25/2002 10:31:48 AM EDT

Originally Posted By SNIPERm88:
A Garand! I really want to get a nice Garand, and get proficient enough with the sights to hunt deer with the old -06 and iron sights. Not sure about optics options for it though.



I second that. When I get my M1, it will be what I use for hunting. I don't hunt much, and figure the only things I'll ever hunt will be deer, and hogs. The .30-06 round will be adequate for both!
Link Posted: 4/25/2002 10:37:36 AM EDT
I don't think that 458 is going to have the range I am looking for. That is a pretty good idea though for shorter range hunting.

Somewhere on the net I saw where there is a company modifying Garands to fire .338 Win Mag.

How do you mount a scope on a Garand?
Link Posted: 4/25/2002 10:46:30 AM EDT
I think the .308 win would be marginal at 400 yards on Elk. Even 30-06 could be questionable. If you get an elk, you're going to pack out the elk AND the Garand? Ouch!

I think I'd stick to a bolt gun in 30-06 or magnum. If that bores you, try archery or handgun.
Link Posted: 4/25/2002 2:15:26 PM EDT

Originally Posted By imposter:

People hunt squirrels?




i do....
Link Posted: 4/25/2002 4:32:39 PM EDT
I will take a shot out to 300 with a load of Barnes X over 35.2gr of WIn 296 all day long. There is plenty of energy to smoke whatever you are shooting at in N America with that!! Dead on at 30 yards puts you 3" high at 100 yards 4"low at 200 yards and at 300 you are ~26" low, bring a range finder and a ballistics chart and have a BIG time!!! Hell, you still have over 1100 ft pounds of energy at 300 yards!!!

Link Posted: 4/25/2002 4:42:05 PM EDT
Get an M1A Scout, that is what I use.

Link Posted: 4/25/2002 5:05:49 PM EDT
Go with a DSA SA58 FAL rifle in 308.win. A nice 1 M.O.A FAL. I dont really think it can shoot 1 M.O.A more like 2 or 3 M.O.A.
Link Posted: 4/25/2002 5:10:42 PM EDT
When I was younger, I hunted with an HK91.

I don't hunt any more, but if I were going to go again, I'd take my AR-10.
Link Posted: 4/25/2002 5:26:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By imposter:
I don't think that 458 is going to have the range I am looking for. That is a pretty good idea though for shorter range hunting.

Somewhere on the net I saw where there is a company modifying Garands to fire .338 Win Mag.

How do you mount a scope on a Garand?



OK. You want range how about a Barrett M82A1??? That enough range??
Link Posted: 4/25/2002 6:31:31 PM EDT
imposter,
Squirrel is a very tasty treat...fried with mashed taters....mmmmmmmmmgooood, just like maw used to make.

jk, they are good.

I_run_with_scissors
Link Posted: 4/25/2002 8:44:11 PM EDT
how about AK-47?
Link Posted: 4/25/2002 8:53:26 PM EDT
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