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Posted: 4/17/2002 6:41:42 PM EDT
After a 8 year hiatus from having anything to do with guns (I was burned out), I'm back. Upon finding AR-15.com I feel at home. I look forward to getting up to date and hope to be able to contribute if I can reactivate those brain cells where I have cached the info of long ago. I invested 12 years in the gun industry (specializing in paramilitary weapons as we called them in those days) and 10 years in the Military (active and NG), so I do have a little bit of a base to draw on for giving a humble opinion. At one point in the military I was even an instructor for OCs for the M-16, M-60, M-203, M-2, and demolitions.

While at one time I personally owned over 50 prebans in my collection, circumstances changed and I was forced to narrow down to my personal favorites.

After 8 years it time for a few upgrades!
Link Posted: 4/17/2002 6:58:54 PM EDT
Welcome Home tulsat!
Link Posted: 4/17/2002 7:00:52 PM EDT
How was jail?
Link Posted: 4/17/2002 7:03:13 PM EDT
Welcome


Originally Posted By GeneStoner:
How was jail?



Ohhh, you beat me to it.

Link Posted: 4/17/2002 7:06:48 PM EDT
"How was jail?"

Ha! I can see where one might draw that conclusion but actually it was a business partner embezzling >$100K and a simultaneous divorce. I just threw a good coat of oil on all the guns I wanted to keep and into a vault they went. Only to be open last month for the first time in 8 years. It was almost like Christmas.

I am still a commissioned officer in the US ARMY IRR and legally own my toys, thank you very much.
Link Posted: 4/17/2002 7:17:36 PM EDT

Originally Posted By tulsat:
"How was jail?"

Ha! I can see where one might draw that conclusion but actually it was a business partner embezzling >$100K and a simultaneous divorce. I just threw a good coat of oil on all the guns I wanted to keep and into a vault they went. Only to be open last month for the first time in 8 years. It was almost like Christmas.

I am still a commissioned officer in the US ARMY IRR and legally own my toys, thank you very much.




ahhhh divorced then murder... 8yrs later he wants more guns! cheers bro
Link Posted: 4/17/2002 7:38:37 PM EDT
Does anyone have any ideas on the current values of these?

Top is Colt 3X NIB.
Middle is a Steiner 4x24 for an HK-91 complete w/case, tools, and STANAG mount.
The bottom is a Schmidt and Bender 1.5 - 6x .308 sniper reticle on a HK 30 mm mount.

I'm not interested in selling, only curious for insurance values.
http://www.torchia.org/post/optics.jpg
Link Posted: 4/17/2002 7:49:02 PM EDT
That is some nice glass.
Link Posted: 4/17/2002 7:52:25 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/17/2002 8:05:26 PM EDT
Tulsat,

Welcome back brother, this time it's hopefully for good. I told my old lady im only trying this marriage thing once. If this one doesn't work out it's back to being a full time pimp!!

I really like that 3x20 Colt scope. If you would like to sell it, please drop me an e-mail.

Semper-Fi Do or Die, 03 out!!
Link Posted: 4/17/2002 8:32:40 PM EDT

I've heard of Schmidt and Bender, but never used 'em how are they?


They are like their contemporaries in European optics, Swarovski, Steiner, Zeis, in that they far exceed a US comparable optic offerings.
When I was in the gun industry it never ceased to amaze me when a customer would want to put a $30 B-Square mount with a $40 Bushnell scope on a $1200 (market value at that time) HK-91.
Europeans traditionally spend more or as much as the weapon costs on optics, while a US buyer was lucky to spend 10-30% of their weapons value on optics.
Link Posted: 4/17/2002 9:08:32 PM EDT

Welcome back brother, this time it's hopefully for good. I told my old lady im only trying this marriage thing once. If this one doesn't work out it's back to being a full time pimp!!


I tried the "2 year Try Me Plan" and chose not to extend my contract. Still costly never-the-same.
Link Posted: 4/17/2002 9:19:10 PM EDT
IRR ? Man you must of had fun in that , finished 8 years of it in '99 . Could figure out why as a ATC (35D) they kept assigning me to an ordanace battalion . I would really like that Schmidt and Bender with the HK mount but its outside of my price range .
Link Posted: 4/17/2002 9:26:50 PM EDT

IRR ? Man you must of had fun in that , finished 8 years of it in '99 .

I did 10 years of Active and NG service combined, and have been in the IRR since '92. The only thing the IRR had did for me is promote me!
But with all Uncle Sam has invested in my training, I will stay in the IRR until they don't need my old wrinkled ass.
Link Posted: 4/17/2002 9:31:37 PM EDT
Welcome aboard tulsat!

Nice glass there. Just so you know, some Americans do give optics the attention they deserve. I have more into optics than rifle on the 700PSS.

Of course, I did try the Leaper/AR15 combo first and learned my lesson...
Link Posted: 4/17/2002 9:32:28 PM EDT

But with all Uncle Sam has invested in my training, I will stay in the IRR until they don't need my old wrinkled ass.


How else do you thank someone taught you discipline and showed you how to take over small towns, blow up buildings, devise insidious booby-traps, and generally kill things?
Link Posted: 4/17/2002 9:57:40 PM EDT
Let me begin by welcoming you back also. Are you from the Tulsa, OK area? If so we need to get together with some other locals and have a Welcome Back range session.
Link Posted: 4/18/2002 4:56:40 AM EDT
Welcome tulsat



Link Posted: 4/18/2002 7:14:41 AM EDT
Welcome back tulsat.

Are you from Tulsa, Ok. ?

I'm looking forward to seeing your new guns that you buy.
Link Posted: 4/18/2002 1:05:28 PM EDT
well friend, were waitin for pics.....
Link Posted: 4/18/2002 1:21:02 PM EDT

Originally Posted By tulsat:

Middle is a Steiner 4x24 for an HK-91 complete w/case, tools, and STANAG mount.



If it's anything like the Hensoldt I have (looks exactly the same, and is also a 4x24), then it can be had for about $400 including the claw mount.
Link Posted: 4/18/2002 5:24:07 PM EDT
Yes I'm from Tulsa, home of one of the greatest gun shows in the US.

As for the pics here is one for a starter.
http://www.torchia.org/post/car.jpg

Colt Govt Carbine with a Colt SP-1 CAR-15 Aluminum stock.
Link Posted: 4/18/2002 5:53:51 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/18/2002 6:05:10 PM EDT
I don't know about the foreign stuff, but that Colt scope is pretty common. Those are about a dime a dozen.

I'm feeling generous.

I'll give ya' $50.00 for it.

(okay, seriously they sell for between $150.00-$200.00, sometimes more.)
Link Posted: 4/18/2002 6:13:32 PM EDT

I don't know about the foreign stuff, but that Colt scope is pretty common


While I value everyone's opinion, I think you might be referring to the Colt 4x scope. The 3x scopes are early SP1 days and were always a little difficult to find in the 80's and 90's when I was selling arms. I always had the 4x scopes NIB in stock as they were easily ordered from distributors.
Link Posted: 4/18/2002 6:28:16 PM EDT
Yeah, I guess I haven't really looked in a while. I have recently seen like new in box Colt 3X for about $225.00 though.

NIB will, as you know, bring a premium.
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