J_E_D thanks for the info.. I noticed Gun Parts sold Armscorp receivers,, I bet Armscorp sells them the ones that don't pass their standards instead of trashing them,,, But, if they are substandard and get bad reviews,it looks like it would hurt them in the long run,, I say this since you said most of the complaints you heard were about recievers purchased from Numrich, Gun Parts... when I ordered mine, for an extra fee, (I don't remember how much now) you could specify all matching parts, ie. all win, H&R TRW, they said they would be new GI or used excellent.. I didn't have the extra to request it, but when it came it was as far as I and a guy who is pretty good on them,,(I actually knew nothing) could tell it was all H&R and all new , unused parts,, I was very happy, and it shoots great.. Haven't heard much about them lately,, and it was all assembled by them, like was mentioned, that gives you some recourse if something is wrong,, I have heard that in the last 6-8 years, as GI parts are drying up that Springfield is using some cast, and substandard parts. Wonder if the Govt. still has stashes of new parts, that can be released, or if they have all been torched????? Also heard at one time some of the chinese guns appeared to have original U.S. receivers that had been made semi-and restamped,, any truth to that???