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Posted: 4/4/2002 12:53:09 PM EDT
What pistol would you carry into combat? This assumes you have no rifle, carbine, shotgun, etc. Here's the deal: You get 500 rounds of ammo, you don't know the scenario you will face, you don't know much. You will receive briefing after pistol selection.
BTW: my choice is the Mk23 SOCOM |
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Glock 17
Two words - Capacity & Reliability Plus I can pick up reloads from the dead guys. |
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Glock 18 and 500 rounds of fully loaded mags
The 1911 is staying home as 8+1 rounds of 45 ACP really goes quick for me...too many combat/tactical reloads involved |
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Hmmmm....After careful thought, I think I'd go with a 6" barrelled .357. Why? In my humble opinion, this handgun will handle up close and personal situations, as well as giving you the ability to stand off agressors form a decent range, without having to aim it like a mortar.
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Sig Sauer P226, although that Glock 18 does sound tempting if it comes with the add on stock
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Wow responses come fast here...5 in about 5 minutes since I posted it.
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My HK USP tactical. The punch of a 45 combined with decent capacity and exceptional accuracy. In addition it points and shoots like an extension of my arm.
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If I could have any pistol - no question it would be a Glock 18. If no full auto - HK Mk23.
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P-14 my P-12 is really reliable and tough it packs a punch too and holds alot of rounds but for combat why not go with a couple extra rounds and a longer barrel, so if the P-14 is like my 12 I will go with it. But I do want the 2round extension so It hold 16rounds.
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HK MP7, Its a pistol if you really look at it.
If that doesn't fly, a glock 35 with Gemtech suppressor. |
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ball ammo? My 1911
any ammo I want? HiPower neither has any function problems to worry about, either will do the job and quick. |
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Glock 17. Light, strong, accurate, hi capacity, reliable.
I am surprised no one said Berreta yet. |
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HK USP45, USP9, or the Glock 18.
The MK23 (not the Mark 23) would be my next choice, but its rather large. |
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Glock 34 - even better if I can get it with the G18 happy switch.
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My P226. It's more reliable than any pistol I've ever fired (and I've got 42,000+ rounds through it), including a boatload of 1911s. Very accurate, too.
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I guess you could say I am partial to a P-226. I don't know if I would consider it a primary weapon for combat, more as a last resort.
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My Para-Ord P13-.45. Can't beat a .45 for stopping power with fairly quick follow up shots. A P14 would work, but hey, I can always use the P14 mags in my 13. 1911 pistols are just too rugged and combat proven to dismiss.
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OK I'm in with a my M1911 and 230 grainers since I'm an old fart and don't know any better. [:\]
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Energizer, I know what you're saying about size, but its gonna be used as a primary firearm, so I discounted the weight/size factor. Also, for its size it still packs a punch.
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Compensated good thing=less recoil for follow up shot (supposedly, mine aren't comped) however glocks have a good reputation for gentle recoil because of the low barrel and (I think) squishy plastic frame Compensated bad things= 1. Brighter muzzle flash and therefore more blinding in low light. 2. Hot gases and metal can fly out ports and onto you if the gun is fired close to the body i.e. if someone is so close you are firing with the gun almost touching you for fear of being disarmed |
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Thx Aimless, I knew it was a recoil thing and that gases came out of the bbl (saw this on www.glock.com). Seemed like a good idea, just didn't know the drawbacks other than the muzzle flash. Seemed like a handy option w/ a Glock18C (only in my dreams...).
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Quoting because it couldn't have been said better. |
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Glock 21 with night sights and an M3 light just in case I need it.
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500 rounds only? Shit can the 9mm and pull out the 357. I own lots of calibers and carry them all, but in a moment of real need, I leave the house with a 357.
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3 choices:
.357 sigpro- powerful, durable, accurate past 100 yards, compact for blending in 92fs (silenced)- very reliable, quiet, moderate size so it can be hidden if needed, NATO caliber to avoid detection HK MK23 (silenced)- reliable, accurate, resists the elements. . . more for an all out offensive weapon system |
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when i leave the house looking for trouble, i look no further than the most deadly and awesome weapon known to man: a sawed off red ryder cowboy action bee bee gun. gotta get it under 50 ounces tho, or itll be an SBR and the ATF will come kick your mom right in the face! -Spaceman |
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well, being a ninja, i would usually leave the house with a coupla throwing stars and a katana, in case i flip out and have to kill people, cause that's what we ninjas do.
but seriously, i would carry what i carry all of the time, my glock 19c (compensated) with a glock 17 mag (as an extended) loaded with speer +p+ golddots.. hmmm, 18 rounds of hot ammo in a very controllable package, OH YEAH!!! or, i would just use the s&w mod 66 (magnaported, of course, with some .357 125 grain hydrashoks. so totally sweet i could just crap my pants. |
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Glock 21 (.45), 13-round mags, M6 laser/light. (Since Feb: 5000 rounds, 0 malfunctions)
Leave 1911 at home: incomplete extractions (my fault for limp-wristing, but Glock functions no matter what I do). Leave Glock 31 (357-sig) at home: I would be totally deaf after a few shots. And my hand would hurt. Leave Glock 17 (9mm.) at home: 9mm small, .45 big. If I had one, leave Glock 18 home: no way could I control one of those. Never heard of any other handguns. |
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A Glock 23- I've been asked this question before as it pertains to handguns I own. While I love my Sigs, the Glock is just downright simple and functional. Kind of like the AK of handguns.
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FALARAK wrote:
DITTO HELL NO on the compensated question. compensated pistols are great for gaming and a very, very, very bad idea for a combat/social pistol. Tate |
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While I love my G17 (my first gun), remember that a G20 holds 15+1 of 10mm ammo. Don't forget the Trijicon nightsights and the M3. -Troy |
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I would have to agree with Troy above. The 10mm is undoubtedly a more versatile round, and packs a helluva punch more than the 9mm.
However, I base my decision on the idea that I can scavenge 9mm, after I go through the 500 rounds. If all I get is 500, then I *have* to surrender, then I agree with the G20, or a HK Tactical in .45 That being said.... I normally would have chosen a Glock34 over the G17. However, I dont think the G34 or G35 are good choices, because of the open area on top of the slide. While this serves the purpose of lightening the slide for quick followup shots, it also detracts from the reliability of the weapon, from a dirt/debris perspective. |
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I see a lot of votes for Glocks and 1911s, but I have a question for the 1911 people: what does the 1911 have that the Mk 23 doesn't?
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First my vote either my 1911 or my USP 45. The HK Mk23 mod 0 is rather large for regular carry it may be a bit cumbersome. It is very accurate AND reliable but its intended use was for Special Forces who may not have the same concerns and uses that regular grunts may have. When I picked one up the first thing I said was "this is massive". I would LOVE to have one but the PRK won't allow it. I wish HK would release a version without the threaded barrel and cali approved. I'd buy it! |
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The Mk23 is a boat anchor that no gun manufacturer would have designed of their own accord. The design was due to the crazy set of requirements given to the bidders.
A USP Tactical is a better gun than the Mk23 for over-all use, mostly due to size, but also due to the control layout. -Troy |
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I can't believe no one has yet voted for the Glock 22 (if I missed it in my post scanning, my apologies). Anyway, I would choose the Glock 22 in a heartbeat...anytime, anyday, anywhere.
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1911's have single action triggers, that means a small amount of movement to get it to fire and to reset the sear for the next shot. H+K's and Sig's treat your finger like it's a marathon runner............ G-21 with trijicon sights, decal grips, and a mounted light system. |
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