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Posted: 3/15/2002 3:37:00 PM EDT
I know that Knights makes a RAS system but I know others do to. Who else do you know of that makes them? Where can I buy one.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 5:51:29 PM EDT
btt
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 6:41:10 PM EDT


Rail systems similar to Knight?
DPMS, Bushmaster. I think their price is reasonable.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 6:43:31 PM EDT
how does the RAS install?

do you have to take off the front sight post or what?
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 7:09:27 PM EDT

Originally Posted By markm:
how does the RAS install?

do you have to take off the front sight post or what?




I have the RAS from Knight. Very easy to install. No need to take the front sight off.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 7:47:21 PM EDT
how do you get it over the barrel, man?
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 8:12:41 PM EDT
I believe they are in halves like the regular handguards.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 8:14:22 PM EDT


markm, my Knight's RAS is for my M4. You install these 2 pieces same like you install your standard handguards. The larger piece ( has 3 rails ) will be install first on top (it should mark T, for top). The smaller piece is installed on the bottom. There should be a screw on top, I think, to hold the unit tighter.
HTH.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 8:50:04 PM EDT
thanks.
Link Posted: 3/15/2002 9:57:19 PM EDT

Originally Posted By mojo:


markm, my Knight's RAS is for my M4. You install these 2 pieces same like you install your standard handguards. The larger piece ( has 3 rails ) will be install first on top (it should mark T, for top). The smaller piece is installed on the bottom. There should be a screw on top, I think, to hold the unit tighter.
HTH.



They are not free floating?
Link Posted: 3/16/2002 6:06:33 AM EDT
O.K., so you get the RAS, and 3 Rib panals for about $300.00.

I'm just not seeing why its so expensive. if it were around a hundo i might go for it.
Link Posted: 3/16/2002 6:29:43 AM EDT
There are free-float and non free-float versions.

The "standard" version is just like a regular handguard except not plastic and after you attach them you actually clamp them down so they don't come off or move. Takes about 10 minutes to install with only a hex wrench and no disassembly of the rifle.

The free-float version installs like any free floating AR tube and require "gunsmithing" work. This version is also much more expensive.

As to why it costs so much: they are not plastic so its a bit of metal there. Also, it gives you a ROCK SOLID mounting point for your accessories. For example, I have a bipod mounted to a standard plastic handguard and it flexes so bad I'm afraid I'm going to snap it in two. You won't see this with a RAS.

You have a stable mounting point for sights, lights, bipods, slings, forward grips, whatever that is as solid as (or very close to) the receiver itself. Well worth the money if you have a use for it. Then again, my wife has a different idea of what's "worth it" these days...
Link Posted: 3/21/2002 12:16:58 PM EDT
Is the "standard" (non-free floating) version still available? Who sells them for the best price? Thx.
Link Posted: 3/21/2002 1:32:13 PM EDT
How much does the RAS weigh?
Link Posted: 3/21/2002 2:11:18 PM EDT

Originally Posted By M4me2:
Is the "standard" (non-free floating) version still available? Who sells them for the best price? Thx.



M4me2, you might give Wes Grant mstn@midsouth.rr.com a try.
Good guy !
Link Posted: 3/21/2002 4:42:17 PM EDT
I can second the recommendation of MSTN. Paul and Wes are outstanding to deal with. They just open there online store at mstn.biz

Clinth
Link Posted: 3/22/2002 9:47:33 AM EDT
Thanks, guys!
Link Posted: 3/25/2002 7:32:14 AM EDT
I have a variety of information posted on my webpage that might help. www.Quarterbore.com/kac

Good Luck!
Link Posted: 3/25/2002 12:33:36 PM EDT
I am still trying to figure out if regular RAS will fit 16" A2 (HBAR) as sold by Bushmaster, or if I have to use RIS.

I have been told yes, it will fit, and I have been told no, it won't fit, that is the point of the RIS.

Which is it?
Link Posted: 3/25/2002 12:44:04 PM EDT

Originally Posted By notsubby:
I am still trying to figure out if regular RAS will fit 16" A2 (HBAR) as sold by Bushmaster, or if I have to use RIS.

I have been told yes, it will fit, and I have been told no, it won't fit, that is the point of the RIS.

Which is it?



This (the one on top) is a brand new Bushy M4 upper with a RAS (M5 I believe is the carbine model) on it. Fit no problem.


Link Posted: 3/25/2002 12:52:48 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/25/2002 12:55:21 PM EDT by Quarterbore]
There was a Bushmaster 11.5-inch HBAR upper that sold here on AR15.com a couple months back that had a M4 RAS mounted on it. I asked (or tried to ask) if the HBAR mounted in his RAS and in a round about way he said it did!

www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=79976


Now, when people start "*"ing out model numbers I stop trying to ask questions but YOU might give SimonPhoenix an E-Mail!

Good Luck!

Link Posted: 3/25/2002 4:25:20 PM EDT
M4me2,

For recommendations, please see my shameless plug post:
www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?id=103855

-Matthew
Link Posted: 3/31/2002 2:17:00 PM EDT
So the official answer on whether or not RAS fits 16" A2 (yes, I know M5 RAS fits 20" A2, and obviously it fits M4), or whether RIS has to be used is, "maybe."
Link Posted: 3/31/2002 3:23:08 PM EDT

Originally Posted By FMJunkie:

Originally Posted By notsubby:
I am still trying to figure out if regular RAS will fit 16" A2 (HBAR) as sold by Bushmaster, or if I have to use RIS.

I have been told yes, it will fit, and I have been told no, it won't fit, that is the point of the RIS.

Which is it?



This (the one on top) is a brand new Bushy M4 upper with a RAS (M5 I believe is the carbine model) on it. Fit no problem.





FM, Nice setup!! What do you have for a scope on that middle AR?
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