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Posted: 3/7/2002 10:53:07 PM EDT
I'm thinking about buying a M1903 and have a few questions:

What is the difference between the M1903 and the M1903 Mark 1?

What is a 'C' stock?

Which rifles have the hooded front sights?

Do only the A3 rifles have the aperature rear sights?

Where can I buy the clips?

BTW, I already know about the problem with the low numbered rifles so we don't need to go there, but I would appreciate any other suggestions or information that may be important.

Thanks in advance!
Link Posted: 3/8/2002 4:34:28 AM EDT
I'll try and answer some of your questions.

The M1903 Mk1 rifle was an M1903 that was modified to take the Pedersen device which converted the rifle to a semiautomatic using a pistol cartridge. They have an ejection port milled in the left side of the receiver.

A Type C stock is a pistol grip type stock.

None of the rifles have a hooded front sight. There are hood type sight protectors for the rifles which would be removed before use.

Only the M1903A3 rifles have the apiture typr rear sights. They are mounted on the rear receiver ring.

Stripper clips are available from several sources, including most gun shows.

If you're talking about the new CMP offering, I plan on taking advantage also.

Rich
Link Posted: 3/8/2002 5:00:55 AM EDT
Do you want a collectable or are you just looking for a shooter?

The 03A3 has much better sights but usually a stamped trigger guard.

The basic 03 has worse sights but if you can find one with a good bore and an early barrel date, before 1919, you might have a collectable piece. I did a Google search on 03A3 and got tons of information. Also go to gunborker.com and see what's there and what the going prices are.

I decided what I wanted and then what it was worth and found a Camp Perry 03 with a 3-13 barrel date in pristine condition and got it for $600.00 complete with site guards and what would appear to be a period sling (old leather with brass hardware). It shoots the Federal 30.06 Match ammo into a 3" hole all day long which is still a match winner if the operater does his part.
Link Posted: 3/8/2002 12:18:28 PM EDT
Link Posted: 3/8/2002 4:03:09 PM EDT
youv'e seen big brother 30 cal. M1903 now meet little brother M1922-M2 22lr
cross your fingers....

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http://community.webshots.com/storage/1/v5/9/2/38/32790238QJqGKp_ph.jpg


Link Posted: 3/8/2002 4:06:05 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 3/8/2002 4:46:29 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 3/8/2002 11:14:49 PM EDT by FishKepr]
Thanks for the information. Yep, I was saving up for a Garand, but that changed the moment I got that newsletter. The Garand can wait until Christmas.

Do I want a collector or a shooter? Good question. The answer sort of lies in between. I want a rifle that is safe to shoot and that I'm not hesitant to refinish, while still maintaining that classic look. With that in mind I think I'm leaning toward a high number Springfield with the standard stock.

I'd also like to hear any comparisons of the M1903 and the M1917. Why was the M1917 used as the prevalant rifle during WW1 instead of the M1903? It seems kind of weird that the M1903 was relegated to such a small status during that period and then made standard again. Heck, if the option was on the list I think I'd get a M1917 instead. Yeah, I agree they're not as pretty as the M1903, but I'd get it simply for the nostalgic value.
Link Posted: 3/9/2002 5:24:53 AM EDT
The M1917 was the predominant US rifle in WWI because the tooling and production facilities were already in place from production of the P14 rifle for the British. It was easier to convert from the British .303 chambering to the US .30 caliber than it was to retool for the M1903.
Link Posted: 3/9/2002 6:59:56 AM EDT
The M1903 and the M1917 are both excellent rifles. If I recall correctly, Sgt. Alvin York actually used a M1917, not a M1903 as shown in the Gary Cooper movie.

However, comparing a M1903 to a M1917 is like comparing Cindy Crawford to Rosanne Barr.
Link Posted: 3/9/2002 2:32:04 PM EDT
Oh geez 199, what kind of comparison is that? I guess you HATE the P17.
Link Posted: 3/18/2002 7:44:12 AM EDT
Are the Rock Island varients more 'collectable' since they were produce in smaller numbers and more likely to haved served during WW1?
Link Posted: 3/18/2002 3:41:00 PM EDT
I wouldn't count on getting an all original WW1 correct Rock Island or Springfield through the new CMP 03 sales, If you order a low # RI or SA you will most likely get a WW2 rebarreled rifle. Your odds of getting a more desirable possibly collectable o3 would be either the Remington 03, Mark 1 or high SA all of these with the type S stock. Another note on RI's is that they only assembled a lttle over 347,000 rifles with 285,000 being the high # cutoff but the produced over 400,000 recvr's. The balance of the recvr's were assembled by Springfield Armory in the 1920's.
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