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Posted: 6/19/2022 7:29:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Mine doesn't consistently/ distinctively click but if I adjust it slow you can kind of feel it. I messed around with it a while yesterday smacking the unit itself and the underside of the rail etc. and was able to cause it to shift just by doing that so thinking my screws probably aren't moving as if I kept hitting it, it would go back to zero on it's own. I think I'm going to keep my screws taped and keep shooting and checking back to see if it does wander whether it will keep going or if it will stop. If it doesn't go farther than the amount I've seen it move so far I don't think it would be enough to make me miss a target. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Good idea with the silicone, I put Nyogel on the threads as well as the oring from the jump, and made sure the battery cap was tight, haven’t had it turn off once, nor have I had the pressure switch pop out under recoil like others have reported. I also sealed my unit completely with jb weld all the way around including the battery housing for extra rigidity, this was like a month before I saw guys on here taking them apart and making modifications. Interesting point about the stickiness of the tape, I made sure to press down on top of the gorilla square so that it would hold the windage/elevation screw real good, I wonder if the gaffers tape you used wasn’t holding as well? Also my units don’t make consistent distinctive clicks do yours? Mine doesn't consistently/ distinctively click but if I adjust it slow you can kind of feel it. I messed around with it a while yesterday smacking the unit itself and the underside of the rail etc. and was able to cause it to shift just by doing that so thinking my screws probably aren't moving as if I kept hitting it, it would go back to zero on it's own. I think I'm going to keep my screws taped and keep shooting and checking back to see if it does wander whether it will keep going or if it will stop. If it doesn't go farther than the amount I've seen it move so far I don't think it would be enough to make me miss a target. Yeah that’s the same with mine, you can kinda feel clicks if you go slow, but I wish they were more positive. Cool, keep us posted, so far you and I are the only users I’ve seen be honest about how these perform on 5.56 |
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Posted: 6/19/2022 7:32:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nope. I doubt that, what setup have you actually tested it properly on? |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 7:47:03 AM EDT
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OK you caught bro, I don't even own an AR. Believe whatever you want, I don't give a fuck.
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Posted: 6/20/2022 11:15:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah that’s the same with mine, you can kinda feel clicks if you go slow, but I wish they were more positive. Cool, keep us posted, so far you and I are the only users I’ve seen be honest about how these perform on 5.56 I roughly calculated 6" of drift using my reticle so stuck a 9" paper plate on my tree at 120 yards to try and confirm it. It looks like the max distance it has moved in any direction is probably closer to 4" which is fine for my purposes. I'll have to keep checking it after shooting to see if it holds but not bad at all for a $250 unit if it does. If there aren't some units that hold zero better than others I'm guessing that most of them do move but if zeroed against a red dot at a shorter distance it wouldn't be enough to be noticeable or matter. |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 6:02:47 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: OK you caught bro, I don't even own an AR. Believe whatever you want, I don't give a fuck. Go take your meds |
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Posted: 6/20/2022 10:23:16 PM EDT
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Who’s had success adding some more adjustment in? I need my IR flood to go down further to get the laser in the middle. I’d say right now the laser is in the upper 1/3. I swore there was a how-to in here but I can’t seem to find it now.
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Posted: 6/21/2022 4:30:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Who’s had success adding some more adjustment in? I need my IR flood to go down further to get the laser in the middle. I’d say right now the laser is in the upper 1/3. I swore there was a how-to in here but I can’t seem to find it now. Go to a range and set it up at 200m to 300m. It literally took me 5mins - for IRL and IR Illuminator. Have the IR illuminator fully open. I didn't need any additional adjustment. Don't sit at home and point the unit at a wall. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 8:31:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Go to a range and set it up at 200m to 300m. It literally took me 5mins - for IRL and IR Illuminator. Have the IR illuminator fully open. I didn't need any additional adjustment. Don't sit at home and point the unit at a wall. Not pointing it at any walls. Was doing it at 100 yards. I have another one and it allows me to center it perfectly, so this one is just slightly different. |
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Posted: 6/21/2022 8:57:01 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Not pointing it at any walls. Was doing it at 100 yards. I have another one and it allows me to center it perfectly, so this one is just slightly different. The further, the better - do 1000 if you can  The furthest you'll be off is at the muzzle, and it's only the physical distance between the diode and the muzzle/optic (depending how you zero) - which is usually only about 1.5" up/down + right. Since you have two, it's obviously different - but see what increasing the converge distance does for you.
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Posted: 6/23/2022 1:14:28 PM EDT
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Anyone try the somos CQBL? Looking for something small for an mp5- Tor mini also on the short list. Don't need a thousand yard lightsaber, gonna be used mostly indoors <25 yds. IR illum would be a plus, but not required.
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Posted: 6/24/2022 9:37:37 AM EDT
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Yeah I think what we're seeing here are some QC issues, specifically dealing with the adjustment systems. I have 3 of these things now, bought over a period of 12 months, and all three have differing amounts of tension on the adjustment screws, especially on the illum. While some are extremely difficult to move, others almost "free-wheel" as it were. This could be why we're seeing such different results with holding zero. My earliest one had the tightest adjustment system, and it has held up well (approx 100 rds, zero at 25m, shoot at 100m, then re-check zero at 25m). This is the one I cracked and potted myself. My latest one has much less tension and I will be watching it closely, maybe even use witness marks to see if it moves any. It would be a definite improvement if SG would put some kind of clicking system on these things, to help prevent movement. But then again we are pushing them to their limits. Or maybe beyond.
I am definitely trying to get back out to the range for more extensive testing at 100, 200, and 300m. Plus get round counts up on all three, with both 10.3 and 14.5" bbl's. I'm just assuming your shorter bbl's/gas systems are harder on the LAMs but don't know for sure. We shall see. |
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Posted: 6/28/2022 7:20:47 AM EDT
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Posted: 6/28/2022 7:18:41 PM EDT
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Decided to see what all the fuss was about, and threw in their bogus TAPS switch just to get up and running the Modlite/SF setup I already have. Passed on the potting, probably should have asked for unsealed though.
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Posted: 6/29/2022 10:47:21 PM EDT
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Nice thing with the peq2 clone is the real diffuser caps are readily available and cheap on eBay to swap over to it. I have yet to find some for my peq15.
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Posted: 6/30/2022 8:47:15 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Nice thing with the peq2 clone is the real diffuser caps are readily available and cheap on eBay to swap over to it. I have yet to find some for my peq15. https://tnvc.com/shop/l3harris-atpial-c-spare-parts/ |
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Posted: 6/30/2022 10:33:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Decided to see what all the fuss was about, and threw in their bogus TAPS switch just to get up and running the Modlite/SF setup I already have. Passed on the potting, probably should have asked for unsealed though. https://imgur.com/fvq6H6A.jpg I got one of their switches in with my latest order just to play with. Mounts up tight and works fine with my SF light! |
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Posted: 6/30/2022 10:44:59 AM EDT
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Holy hell, the PEQ-15 arrived today, shipped out of Virginia, via USPS. The switch arrives tomorrow from HK via DHL. Four days on the unit, five days on the switch. To Florida.
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Posted: 6/30/2022 3:58:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 6/30/2022 8:36:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Holy hell, the PEQ-15 arrived today, shipped out of Virginia, via USPS. The switch arrives tomorrow from HK via DHL. Four days on the unit, five days on the switch. To Florida. So this thing appears to work well, though there's a phantom visible laser spot to the right of the "main" beam. It's about 1/10th the size of the main beam, and at 6 feet is about an inch to the right, but seems to become non visible when not LARPing drywall beyond 20 feet or so. IR laser is clean, and after running the illum knobs up and down, able to center illum with laser with plenty of travel left. Other odd thing is that it not only shipped from the US, it shipped from the East Coast. Looks like they might be warehousing stock here now. |
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Posted: 7/2/2022 7:57:06 AM EDT
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Can anyone recommend a good Perst-2 knock-off? I'm looking for a unit that has everything (vis light/laser + IR) .
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Posted: 7/2/2022 12:10:28 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can anyone recommend a good Perst-2 knock-off? I'm looking for a unit that has everything (vis light/laser + IR) . Somogear only does a clone of the P4, based on my last visit to their site a month ago. I’m not aware of anyone doing a P2 clone. |
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Posted: 7/2/2022 9:48:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Can anyone recommend a good Perst-2 knock-off? I'm looking for a unit that has everything (vis light/laser + IR) . Seen a number of perst-4 on eBay but unsure of quality. |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 10:25:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have a fake $100 dbal D2 on a 300 blackout suppressed pistol. So far it holds zero and has done well on drills out to 100 yards.  Do you have a link to this one? I'm only going to shoot 300 subs. |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 4:58:47 PM EDT
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is there a TLDR on which ones are the safest bet? might be in the market for a 2nd IR laser,
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Posted: 7/3/2022 5:52:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: is there a TLDR on which ones are the safest bet? might be in the market for a 2nd IR laser, Any of the $200+ PEQ-15 models seem to be a good bet, as they have adjustable illumination and probably the most tested/abused by end users here and elsewhere. The internals on all three are the same, it's just the button and cap cosmetics that differ between UHP, Delta and "regular". The NGAL has fixed illumination, and the PEQ-2 they rolled out three days ago is just too new to market to trust on a real rifle (as much as you can trust any of this stuff) but that could change. Haven't heard much about their CQBL-1. |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 6:30:39 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Any of the $200+ PEQ-15 models seem to be a good bet, as they have adjustable illumination and probably the most tested/abused by end users here and elsewhere. The internals on all three are the same, it's just the button and cap cosmetics that differ between UHP, Delta and "regular". The NGAL has fixed illumination, and the PEQ-2 they rolled out three days ago is just too new to market to trust on a real rifle (as much as you can trust any of this stuff) but that could change. Haven't heard much about their CQBL-1. |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 9:34:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: thanks. amazon or ebay? brand? somogear? They have their own website if you google it. I'm not sure if I can link here without angering someone. |
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Posted: 7/3/2022 9:50:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: thanks. amazon or ebay? brand? somogear? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Any of the $200+ PEQ-15 models seem to be a good bet, as they have adjustable illumination and probably the most tested/abused by end users here and elsewhere. The internals on all three are the same, it's just the button and cap cosmetics that differ between UHP, Delta and "regular". The NGAL has fixed illumination, and the PEQ-2 they rolled out three days ago is just too new to market to trust on a real rifle (as much as you can trust any of this stuff) but that could change. Haven't heard much about their CQBL-1. Somogear's website. |
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Posted: 7/4/2022 4:02:01 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/4/2022 8:34:01 PM EDT
[#30]
Somogear just sent me a message to let me know they are sending me a PEQ-2A to test and give them feedback. I’ll update here when I get it in hand.
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Posted: 7/8/2022 1:41:44 PM EDT
[#31]
I would be in for two of these to clone my issued rifles from back in the day. Ironically when I was in Afghanistan for the draw down in 2021, the M4 I grabbed from the Arms room was an old school M4, grabbed a TA01nsn, and the only lasers they had were two broken peq15s and 3 peq-2A. so I grabbed a 2A that was still working after sighting it in before being dropped off in A-stan. I was wondering if I could find some DCUs to toss on. What sucks is the kids were so afraid to me it was like going home.
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Posted: 7/8/2022 7:56:32 PM EDT
[#32]
Package came from Somogear today. I’m hoping to get some video tonight. Initial impressions are positive, seems like a really well-made item. Flood bezel seems to rotate about 300 degrees.
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Posted: 7/8/2022 9:22:25 PM EDT
[#33]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Package came from Somogear today. I’m hoping to get some video tonight. Initial impressions are positive, seems like a really well-made item. Flood bezel seems to rotate about 300 degrees.https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/256972/DC396FFF-3AA0-4491-AB64-9BD5148E6E96_jpe-2446032.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/256972/F9E943EB-CFB4-405D-A505-8B3080F3855B_jpe-2446033.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/256972/650713AA-31CE-48DC-B1B2-403E95B13BDA_jpe-2446034.JPG https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/256972/46F64DC8-47E2-4C07-BE82-984184CA93D6_jpe-2446035.JPG The PEQ-2 has to be the world's friendliest LAM. I mean, it says "Hi" four times. :) I did a constant offset zero on my unpotted Somo PEQ-15, and then ran four mags through it, over the course of a couple sessions and transport/fondling. It's still holding zero. I still wish the illum had more flood, wish the lens covers were real diffusers, but still think for $240 it's well worth it. And the $25 fake TAPS switch they sell? It's doing ok too, seems put together well, mounts solid, and I don't even notice any difference in light output on my Modlite PHLv2 head compared to using a SF clicky tailcap. (and yes, that's a fake Unity riser too).  |
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Posted: 7/8/2022 9:54:28 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Can anyone recommend a good Perst-2 knock-off? I'm looking for a unit that has everything (vis light/laser + IR) . Not sure about any knock-offs but the only other "all in one" unit I'm aware of is a Steiner A4 civilian not a FP version though |
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Posted: 7/8/2022 10:31:03 PM EDT
[#35]
We have a front moving in and the wind is howling so please excuse the wind noise. This was my quick first impression of the PEQ-2A
Hi laser/Hi Illuminator: PEQ-2A Hi/Hi Illuminator on High with its tightest spot setting: Illuminator Spot on Hi |
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Posted: 7/8/2022 10:37:01 PM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: We have a front moving in and the wind is howling so please excuse the wind noise. This was my quick first impression of the PEQ-2A Hi laser/Hi Illuminator: PEQ-2A Hi/Hi Illuminator on High with its tightest spot setting: Illuminator Spot on Hi Looks good. Sent a follow request. Nfa_junky on IG |
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Posted: 7/9/2022 12:46:39 AM EDT
[#37]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Looks good. Sent a follow request. Nfa_junky on IG Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: We have a front moving in and the wind is howling so please excuse the wind noise. This was my quick first impression of the PEQ-2A Hi laser/Hi Illuminator: PEQ-2A Hi/Hi Illuminator on High with its tightest spot setting: Illuminator Spot on Hi Looks good. Sent a follow request. Nfa_junky on IG Followed you back. It really is impressive. They have the illuminator just about perfect now. Even on the tightest spot setting it’s very usable even up close. |
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Posted: 7/9/2022 8:15:02 AM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Followed you back. It really is impressive. They have the illuminator just about perfect now. Even on the tightest spot setting it’s very usable even up close. How tight does the laser look at distance? Does it seem correct, or is it huge? |
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Posted: 7/9/2022 9:53:02 AM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How tight does the laser look at distance? Does it seem correct, or is it huge? It’s really tight, just some blooming on high. Here’s a video of the laser only: Laser only, High setting Edited to add: it was extremely windy last night and that puts a lot of ocean spray in the air. That also diffused the laser a bit, but overall I’m extremely impressed. |
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Posted: 7/9/2022 10:05:06 AM EDT
[#40]
So which one of these is the newest version on the peq 15. I have a new LE-420 Holosun in bound but I am very interested in one of these.
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Posted: 7/9/2022 10:18:59 AM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: So which one of these is the newest version on the peq 15. I have a new LE-420 Holosun in bound but I am very interested in one of these. All the $200+ PEQ-15's are the same internals, only difference is the housing/button colors, and your choice of red or green vis laser. |
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Posted: 7/11/2022 3:46:02 AM EDT
[#42]
I’ve gotta say…seeing the new peq2’s they came out with, look really solid! My ONLY two gripes…
1) the mount screw on top looks to be flush, whereas on the real one it stick ups a bit. Not sure if one would be able to source an aftermarket or the same screw but in a longer length that could remedy if anyone truly cared about THAT aesthetic aspect. 2) the blue safety has in itself what appears to be the same type of safety screw you’d find on like a peq15. Again, if anyone who’s ordered one and happens to have a real peq2 safety block laying around to see if it’s compatible to swap out, that’d be amazing. Otherwise, at least it can always be removed as I’ve seen quite a few pics where there is no safety block or just reverse it to the black. Other than that, I’d probably plan on swapping the mount for a real one or even biting the bullet for a Larue qd mount which according to their site is still available in stock. Other than those 2 things I’ve already placed an order for 2, but the vis laser versions as I’ll mainly be using em for larp an gram shots. Nonetheless I’m stoked and glad a company has decided to replicate the peq2 |
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Posted: 7/12/2022 2:23:28 PM EDT
[#43]
Ordered a potted and sealed PEQ-15 w/red visible and two of the dual switches for my 15-22 to clone my centerfire night gun, which has an ATPIAL-C. Over all unit seems really nice for the price. The adjustable illuminator is a cool "upgrade" and the laser is a bit stronger than the ATPIAL in my brief pointing around the dark house. Biggest disappointment thus far is the illuminator zero adjustments (knobs instead of screws), so hoping one of those doesn't get busted off. So far so good tho!
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Posted: 7/13/2022 2:06:36 AM EDT
[#44]
sorta OT but who is the brand of clone NVG mounts that where decent? I seem to recall the sionyx guys liking a particular brand.
ETA it was sotac IIRC |
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Posted: 7/13/2022 9:40:18 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: ETA it was sotac IIRC Yup. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 9:01:40 AM EDT
[#46]
How fast are people getting the plotted units. I ordered a UHP with a switch. Just wondering what the delivery times are.
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Posted: 7/15/2022 11:15:42 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How fast are people getting the plotted units. I ordered a UHP with a switch. Just wondering what the delivery times are. Ordered a potted one on 7/4, and it was in my mailbox on 7/11. |
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Posted: 7/15/2022 9:26:53 PM EDT
[#48]
How is the peq2? I could Use one
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Posted: 7/15/2022 10:38:18 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: How is the peq2? I could Use one I get to shoot it on Wednesday. I’ll start with a .22 and if that holds zero, move up to a 5.56. As far as the function, it’s a lot better than my PEQ-15 UHP. The illuminator has a lot more flood and the adjustments seem like centering the illuminator with the laser should be easy. |
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Posted: 7/16/2022 2:17:37 AM EDT
[#50]
I put a real peq15 diffuser lens cap on my somogear peq15. It's one of the older models with the narrow illuminator.
It... diffuses. It's quite useful for indoors.  Attached File Attached File |
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