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Posted: 3/15/2021 6:26:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Speaking of rattlers. If you want to use yours as a hand scanner I highly recommend this gadget: https://apex3d.shop/collections/power-kits/products/scanner-handle The pic rail could use a few more slots for the AGM mount but its solid enough with one crossbar engaged. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/64912/E6F313A4-6CD0-411D-BF04-23CB33A3CDFF-1867002.jpg It does have a lanyard hole too, to avoid dropping your scope on a rock. Interesting, but I’ll be getting a Taipan and one of @Gaspain helmet mount. Should be in stock this week, on back order. |
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Posted: 3/15/2021 10:31:04 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryAnker 5000, mount and angled 4 inch USB-C cable arrived today. Larger than I expected and sticks the pack a little far off from the firearm, but it works and is not heavy despite being bulky. I wonder how well the mount will hold under recoil as the mob seems to be on the loser side. I could probably locktite it but then it could be a problem to remove it. Everything is a trade off. I might see if I can find a spare Allen key base from another accessory and swap out the locking tab and make it a bit more secure. All in all a pretty cost-effective solution.   |
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Posted: 3/16/2021 10:36:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Anker 5000, mount and angled 4 inch USB-C cable arrived today. Larger than I expected and sticks the pack a little far off from the firearm, but it works and is not heavy despite being bulky. I wonder how well the mount will hold under recoil as the mob seems to be on the loser side. I could probably locktite it but then it could be a problem to remove it. Everything is a trade off. I might see if I can find a spare Allen key base from another accessory and swap out the locking tab and make it a bit more secure. All in all a pretty cost-effective solution. https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/218/1FFB1A20-0A0F-4E87-A69C-7C30B532660D-1867364.jpg https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/218/13F889C2-59B0-4DE2-8CA3-9ABB0A7954EC-1867378.jpg Thanks for posting those pics! Gives me a great visualization of how to set it all up once my super hogster arrives. |
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Posted: 3/16/2021 1:55:32 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks for posting those pics! Gives me a great visualization of how to set it all up once my super hogster arrives. You're welcome. No idea whether I "set it up right" or not, I'm a newb here... but the layout seems to work with the spare battery over the left side and a RMR on the right. You can certainly use the Rattler during the day, but it takes 20-30 seconds to boot up and the RMR gives a larger field of view and is faster if you're used to running an RDS on your AR. But the Rattler at night... holy fuck. I would gladly drop $2k just to hear the oooohhhhhhs and ahhhhhhhs from my friends as they look through it. Now I just need some yotes or get to a state with a piggy problem! |
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Posted: 3/17/2021 5:41:58 PM EDT
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nvm... probably belongs in its own thread.
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Posted: 4/1/2021 10:43:02 PM EDT
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Posted: 4/10/2021 11:04:42 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/10/2021 11:47:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryThat’s impressive! Air gun? |
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Posted: 4/12/2021 5:06:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s impressive! Air gun? Quote HistoryQuoted: That’s impressive! Air gun? Yes Sir. Pcp airgun in .22. It's my favorite critter getter for the ranch. |
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Posted: 4/13/2021 8:46:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: My name is Korey Kirschenmann and I am Prostaff for Night Goggles. What can I help you with? After some decently paying tree jobs, deliberation, and arfresearch, I think a superhogster-R would suit me. West texas desert, open country. I see it's on backorder ok. I'm willing to wait. Can I just add to cart and pay for it at nightgoogles or do I need call someone? and I may as well @KoreyKirschenmann eta, Opps @KoreyKirsch |
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Posted: 4/14/2021 1:16:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: After some decently paying tree jobs, deliberation, and arfresearch, I think a superhogster-R would suit me. West texas desert, open country. I see it's on backorder ok. I'm willing to wait. Can I just add to cart and pay for it at nightgoogles or do I need call someone? and I may as well @KoreyKirschenmann eta, Opps @KoreyKirsch |
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Posted: 4/15/2021 3:58:35 PM EDT
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i have been really happy with my pulsar xq38.for what i use it for(mostly nighttime eradication of critters getting under my house)it works great!and for 2200 i feel its a great value!
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Posted: 4/16/2021 11:05:47 AM EDT
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Looking to get Rattler 25 - looks like HCCWARRIOR code is now only $100 off.
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Posted: 4/25/2021 7:43:13 PM EDT
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does anyone have any input on the SIG Echo's 1 or 3? They look almost like a reflex sight. Use would be hunting from 20-150 yards and as a handheld. Would a hogester or a rattler be better?
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Posted: 4/26/2021 12:19:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted:Would a hogester or a rattler be better? Infinitely better. Like, "can't even quantify it" better. |
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Posted: 4/26/2021 10:54:42 PM EDT
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Looks like Burris is getting into this market.
Curious if anyone has looked through heir stuff. |
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Posted: 4/27/2021 10:11:22 AM EDT
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After similar deliberation I settled on the Super Hogster. I have it in-hand and the picture quality is quite impressive and worth a few hundred more for the higher resolution and optical zoom. The real perk is "target identification" where i can determine exactly what critter my target is. On a lower resolution thermal i could see there was a critter but not exactly identify it. You guys in the texas desert may be able to blast indiscriminately at wildlife but I have to account for every round down range where I shoot.
I have looked through similarly priced Flir and EOtech thermals and I am very pleased with my decision to go with the Super Hogster. The Night Vision Guys were a great resource to bounce some of my questions and concerns before making this purchase from them. |
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Posted: 4/28/2021 9:26:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: After similar deliberation I settled on the Super Hogster. I have it in-hand and the picture quality is quite impressive and worth a few hundred more for the higher resolution and optical zoom. The real perk is "target identification" where i can determine exactly what critter my target is. On a lower resolution thermal i could see there was a critter but not exactly identify it. You guys in the texas desert may be able to blast indiscriminately at wildlife but I have to account for every round down range where I shoot. I have looked through similarly priced Flir and EOtech thermals and I am very pleased with my decision to go with the Super Hogster. The Night Vision Guys were a great resource to bounce some of my questions and concerns before making this purchase from them. How long did you have to wait to get it after ordering? |
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Posted: 5/2/2021 12:04:08 AM EDT
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@KoreyKirschenmann
I have a Super hogster. Would purchasing one of their clip on's make a good second unit that I could use for scanning and put in front of my day scope on a rifle? I just don't see clip-on's talked about much. |
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Posted: 5/2/2021 12:55:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @KoreyKirschenmann I have a Super hogster. Would purchasing one of their clip on's make a good second unit that I could use for scanning and put in front of my day scope on a rifle? I just don't see clip-on's talked about much. If you want a dual purpose unit, you could go with a Hogster -R 25 or 35. You still have a dual role thermal as they both are good scanners also, but it costs less than the -C and you don't have to thread on an eyepiece and have more FOV. However, if you do like clip-ons, then yes the Hogster - C may be right up your alley. If you want to discuss in person, I sent you a PM with my cell # and we can discuss. If I know more about your terrain, average distance of shot, etc I can help more. |
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Posted: 5/2/2021 5:20:29 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I am not a clip-on fan personally, as it adds weight and I don't like the controls to be in front of the daytime optics. However, there are lots of people who love clip-ons. The Hogster-C does make a decent as monocular, but 3x and a lot more expensive than all 3 - R models. If you need a scanner only, the Bering Optics Phenom image is hard to beat. It is right up there with Trijicon and NVision quality from an image standpoint at 30-40% the cost but cannot serve as a scope. If you want a dual purpose unit, you could go with a Hogster -R 25 or 35. You still have a dual role thermal as they both are good scanners also, but it costs less than the -C and you don't have to thread on an eyepiece and have more FOV. However, if you do like clip-ons, then yes the Hogster - C may be right up your alley. If you want to discuss in person, I sent you a PM with my cell # and we can discuss. If I know more about your terrain, average distance of shot, etc I can help more. @KoreyKirsch Thank you. I will give you a call this week and tell you my situation and goal and you can better tell me if a clip-on is suited for me. |
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Posted: 5/2/2021 8:40:23 PM EDT
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Want to say I love my R25 and thank Korey for all the help he's given.
IF I can figure out a cheap way to record video off of it I'll make some cool stuff. |
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Posted: 5/2/2021 9:20:09 PM EDT
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Quoted: Want to say I love my R25 and thank Korey for all the help he's given. IF I can figure out a cheap way to record video off of it I'll make some cool stuff. If you just want to record stuff, not much out there cheaper. You need a female-female RCA connector to connect the Hogster and DVR cords, but that is it. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 11:11:32 AM EDT
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IS teh quality of the Trijicon that much better to justify the expense? Is it over 2X better than the hogster?
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Posted: 5/13/2021 11:24:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: IS teh quality of the Trijicon that much better to justify the expense? Is it over 2X better than the hogster? |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 12:27:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: The price is actually closer to 3x the Hogster. My point to most people is you can get a Bering Phenom 640 12 µm scanner (which has a comparable image to Trijicon and Nvision), a good quality tripod, and a Hogster (Super or 35) and still have money left over vs the Trijicon. You could even bump up to the Super Yoter (when it becomes available) which will be 640 12µm scope. You will have better success with all of these vs one thermal. If you have the budget and want to go with Trijicon, they make quality units. For my $, no it wasn't enough to justify the expense. For others, it is. The other thing to consider is how much humidity you hunt in. The higher the humidity, the better the Bering units will compare. When is the Super Yoter going to be available? |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 1:07:03 PM EDT
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^^^^^^ this...and where can I find the specs/info on it?
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Posted: 5/13/2021 3:18:32 PM EDT
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Quoted: When is the Super Yoter going to be available? Bering is the opposite of most companies that give dates and then miss them repeatedly. They tend to under-promise and over-deliver. There has been no official time table given for the Super Yoter - R. I will announce more as information becomes available. Bering has told me they will send the specs when they send me the prototype, so more to come. I can say I have been told the Super Yoter - R will be a 50mm, 12 µm, 640 thermal in the familiar Hogster body with the feature set of the Super Hogster. |
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Posted: 5/13/2021 6:01:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bering has told me I will receive the first prototype of the Super Yoter, as I have tested all the Hogsters and Phenoms for Night Goggles. I haven't received a prototype of the -R (stand alone) version yet. Once I get it and test, and report back to Bering, the release date depends on what they need to fix/improve. It will have the same firmware as the Super Hogster, so it shouldn't need many tweaks. Bering is the opposite of most companies that give dates and then miss them repeatedly. They tend to under-promise and over-deliver. There has been no official time table given for the Super Yoter - R. I will announce more as information becomes available. Bering has told me they will send the specs when they send me the prototype, so more to come. I can say I have been told the Super Yoter - R will be a 50mm, 12 µm, 640 thermal in the familiar Hogster body with the feature set of the Super Hogster. Sounds like a winner. Thanks for the update. |
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Posted: 5/19/2021 6:24:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Glad it is working well for you. This DVR is about the cheapest out there. It is under $30. The recording quality is fine. What I don't like about it, the switch to turn the DVR on is super tiny, and the record button is also very small. It would be about impossible to start a recording with gloves on. Some of the more expensive DVRs have a remote switch you press and the units start and record automatically. If you just want to record stuff, not much out there cheaper. You need a female-female RCA connector to connect the Hogster and DVR cords, but that is it. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Want to say I love my R25 and thank Korey for all the help he's given. IF I can figure out a cheap way to record video off of it I'll make some cool stuff. If you just want to record stuff, not much out there cheaper. You need a female-female RCA connector to connect the Hogster and DVR cords, but that is it. @Ashraam this was the post I was talking about in the thread about the taliban thermal videos |
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Posted: 5/26/2021 9:32:39 PM EDT
[#31]
Estimated cost of Super Yoter?
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Posted: 5/27/2021 10:34:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Estimated cost of Super Yoter? |
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Posted: 5/29/2021 7:57:49 AM EDT
[#33]
RICO RH50 with LRF (haven't tried the LRF)
640x512 50hz 12 micron FL 50mm 1000g rating IP67 6hr battery life (2 x removeable batteries provided so 12 hr) 3 year warranty 2.8 mag to 11.2 mag (digital) FOV 9x7 DRI 90% (MAN) - 2640m/660m/330m |
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Posted: 5/31/2021 8:28:56 AM EDT
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Basic comparison table of a range of thermal devices - its clear thermal is moving very quickly.
Also note I have calculated the DRI, FOVs and LFOVs. The DRI distances are calculated on the basis of 90% certainty to better reflect reality where decisions are/have to be made. PS Erratum NOX35 base mag should be 2.5 :)  As a reference point for the table above, comparison between the Breach and NOX18 below (first two columns in the table) highlighting the importance of FOV  and resolution  (images courtesy of @PA452) NOTE DRI Breach 270m, 70m and 30m. |
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Posted: 6/17/2021 9:59:52 AM EDT
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This site is such an incredible resource. Thanks all for posting the above. LOTS to think about.
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Posted: 6/17/2021 3:54:35 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Basic comparison table of a range of thermal devices - its clear thermal is moving very quickly. Also note I have calculated the DRI, FOVs and LFOVs. The DRI distances are calculated on the basis of 90% certainty to better reflect reality where decisions are/have to be made. PS Erratum NOX35 base mag should be 2.5 :) https://i.imgur.com/J8UAalG.jpg As a reference point for the table above, comparison between the Breach and NOX18 below (first two columns in the table) highlighting the importance of FOV https://i.imgur.com/jBZB7cx.jpg and resolution https://i.imgur.com/Ikia6LR.jpg (images courtesy of @PA452) NOTE DRI Breach 270m, 70m and 30m. Is this data in a table somewhere that others could play around with it? I'd sure like to do that. Maybe a shared google doc? |
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Posted: 6/18/2021 9:29:28 AM EDT
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Posted: 7/19/2021 8:57:31 PM EDT
[#38]
Bering Optics Super Yoter is out there and the people who got them put out some great reviews. However the price is hard to swallow.
The clarity is pretty impressive. I need another round of a stimulus checks, Black Friday and July 4 discounts combined for this one. |
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Posted: 7/19/2021 9:04:42 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This one has my attention! Quote HistoryI’ll have mine in a couple of days, ordered it in January.  I’ll post impressions and pics once I’ve put it through it’s paces a bit. |
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Posted: 7/20/2021 10:36:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Bering Optics Super Yoter is out there and the people who got them put out some great reviews. However the price is hard to swallow. The clarity is pretty impressive. I need another round of a stimulus checks, Black Friday and July 4 discounts combined for this one. I have tested the Super Yoter - C and Super Yoter - R. They have fantastic images but for best bang for the buck, I would still say Hogster 35 or Super Hogster just due to the price difference. Don't get me wrong, I will be using a Super Yoter - R this hunting season, and I will be posting a review video hopefully in the next few days. It is an awesome thermal. |
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Posted: 7/20/2021 12:50:04 PM EDT
[#41]
No, 2 - 123A batteries or external battery packs such as the Anker 5k or 10k mAh packs.
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Posted: 7/23/2021 1:10:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Basic comparison table of a range of thermal devices - its clear thermal is moving very quickly. Also note I have calculated the DRI, FOVs and LFOVs. The DRI distances are calculated on the basis of 90% certainty to better reflect reality where decisions are/have to be made. PS Erratum NOX35 base mag should be 2.5 :) https://i.imgur.com/J8UAalG.jpg As a reference point for the table above, comparison between the Breach and NOX18 below (first two columns in the table) highlighting the importance of FOV https://i.imgur.com/jBZB7cx.jpg and resolution https://i.imgur.com/Ikia6LR.jpg (images courtesy of @PA452) NOTE DRI Breach 270m, 70m and 30m. The SkeetIR-x is helmet mounted, in addition to weapon and hand held, it looks like. https://www.trijiconoasys.com/product-skeetirx.html |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 7:54:38 PM EDT
[#43]
The Super Yoter has been out for a while.
What's the consensus? Game changer? |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 10:15:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Infinitely better. Like, "can't even quantify it" better. Curious. How so? Have you used both? Not trying to be a smart ass. I ask because I have a rattler 25 and for the price and resolution I can’t imagine anything blowing it out of the water. But I haven’t used a Hogster. The only, (granted not great) experience I have is watching comparison videos. The ones I saw made them out to look similar with one sometimes looking a tad better than the other and vice versa. |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 11:03:02 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Super Yoter has been out for a while. What's the consensus? Game changer?  Bering Optics Super Yoter R  Super Yoter R Digital Zoom Testing Bering plans to start production in late September meaning people with early orders should be seeing scopes in early-mid October. I do feel it is a game changer. It has all the features of the SH and a few new ones including rangemarks. Having the 640, 12µm sensor, the image takes a dramatic step up. You add a LaRue QD mount and a 50 mm focal length allows the SY to retain a 3x magnification but still has a larger FOV than the Super Hogster. I still say the SH is the best bang for the buck just because of the awesome value it brings. However, for anyone wanting to step to the next level of image quality, the Super Yoter is the "game changer" in this 4-5K price range. It will be what I am using this hunting season. The Super Yoter C is available at this time. I haven't spent nearly as much time behind it as I have the Super Yoter R. Reports from guys who love clip ons have been very positive. Great image, retaining POI both on removal as well as during digital zoom. I am just not a clip-on fan so I will be using the R this hunting season. The Super Yoter R is available for purchase on the Night Goggles site, and for anyone looking for the C, you can contact Night Goggles at 909-312-5424 and they can get one ordered for you. |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 11:55:18 PM EDT
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AGM Rattler 25. I just took the long video right now, off of my balcony. As I was filming, I heard a “flapping” noise and a half a second later a bird bounced off of my head, into my sliding glass door, flopped onto the ground, and then got up and proceeded to look at me as if to say, “what the fuck, A hole?!”
Bird strike is at 1:40. Lol Then it sat there for like five minutes while my wife kept saying “awww, how cute”, and my daughter kept throwing bread at it. It must have gotten bored because it just took off. lol. The other video is inside my house. You can see the studs through the drywall. I forget where the restaurant video is from. These look like garbage to be honest. I don’t know if the AGM compresses the file while it’s recording internally. YouTube definitely curb stomps it. It looks WAY better in person.  AGM Rattler 25  AGM Rattler 25  AGM Rattler 25 |
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Posted: 9/2/2021 11:57:07 PM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The Super Yoter R has only been available as a prototype to some product testers. I have included two videos below.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUy4VSQAn5k https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHAo1w2k3vgBering plans to start production in late September meaning people with early orders should be seeing scopes in early-mid October. I do feel it is a game changer. It has all the features of the SH and a few new ones including rangemarks. Having the 640, 12µm sensor, the image takes a dramatic step up. You add a LaRue QD mount and a 50 mm focal length allows the SY to retain a 3x magnification but still has a larger FOV than the Super Hogster. I still say the SH is the best bang for the buck just because of the awesome value it brings. However, for anyone wanting to step to the next level of image quality, the Super Yoter is the "game changer" in this 4-5K price range. It will be what I am using this hunting season. The Super Yoter C is available at this time. I haven't spent nearly as much time behind it as I have the Super Yoter R. Reports from guys who love clip ons have been very positive. Great image, retaining POI both on removal as well as during digital zoom. I am just not a clip-on fan so I will be using the R this hunting season. The Super Yoter R is available for purchase on the Night Goggles site, and for anyone looking for the C, you can contact Night Goggles at 909-312-5424 and they can get one ordered for you. It looks amazing! So it seems obvious but it looks to me like one of the main advantages of the 640 is the image still looks crisp and clear when you magnify. Impressive. |
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Posted: 9/3/2021 10:39:06 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It looks amazing! So it seems obvious but it looks to me like one of the main advantages of the 640 is the image still looks crisp and clear when you magnify. Impressive.
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Posted: 9/3/2021 10:57:17 AM EDT
[#49]
I went with the Hogster C. I just like the clip on devices. I probably worried Kory K to death with all my questions while I was deciding on what to get.
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Posted: 9/3/2021 11:21:46 AM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I went with the Hogster C. I just like the clip on devices. I probably worried Kory K to death with all my questions while I was deciding on what to get. |
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