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Posted: 2/23/2021 12:44:51 PM EDT
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There aren’t many pulsars available right now but I’ve started seeing a few trickle onto GB at retail prices. But they aren’t staying listed very long.
It looks like the gen 2 thermion are being released but they dropped the Xp38 from the lineup which I though was their best bang for the buck. 640x480 with a 1.5 base mag and $4300 The XP50 goes for ~$5k |
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Posted: 2/23/2021 1:57:51 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @click2boom your pm box is full Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have distributor pricing with some of the less expensive brands @click2boom your pm box is full thx 
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Posted: 2/26/2021 8:50:15 AM EDT
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Does night goggles have a rep here?
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Posted: 2/26/2021 10:51:36 AM EDT
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I think the TNVC guys will help with night goggles. I personally dealt with Tom Austin and he was good to go.
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Posted: 2/26/2021 11:07:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Does night goggles have a rep here? |
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Posted: 3/1/2021 9:26:41 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: @click2boom your pm box is full Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: I have distributor pricing with some of the less expensive brands @click2boom your pm box is full @HiramRanger thanks,
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Posted: 3/2/2021 12:28:55 AM EDT
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Ordered a Hogster 25mm Friday and got a ship notice today. Im impressed with Night Goggles Inc.
I went with the 25 for the wider FOV. Scanning is more important to me. |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 12:39:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ordered a Hogster 25mm Friday and got a ship notice today. Im impressed with Night Goggles Inc. I went with the 25 for the wider FOV. Scanning is more important to me. That was why I got the Rattler 25 |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 12:40:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: That was why I got the Rattler 25 Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ordered a Hogster 25mm Friday and got a ship notice today. Im impressed with Night Goggles Inc. I went with the 25 for the wider FOV. Scanning is more important to me. That was why I got the Rattler 25 Same here. $1995 to my door. I’m very impressed so far. |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 12:50:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Same here. $1995 to my door. I’m very impressed so far. Ouch, I paid $1800. Night Vision Guys will price match HCC Tactical which has a 10% off code HCCWARRIOR. Still a steal at $2k, but if anybody is thinking of ordering, that’s how you can save $200. I used my savings to apply to the AGM TM160 which I got for $360 with the discount code. |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 1:07:37 AM EDT
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No love for the REAP?
It seems like Trijicon is being passed up by all these new offerings. Or is it their price point? |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 1:14:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: No love for the REAP? It seems like Trijicon is being passed up by all these new offerings. Or is it their price point? The Rattler was a stretch so the Reap was a fantasy. |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 1:15:26 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No love for the REAP? It seems like Trijicon is being passed up by all these new offerings. Or is it their price point? Bang for the buck wise they are terrible, like everything trijicon. Not to say they aren’t good optics but if I was spending that much I’d be shopping n-vision. |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 1:26:14 AM EDT
[#14]
Quote HistoryQuoted: No love for the REAP? You do not understand what "bang for the buck" means. |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 1:37:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Ouch, I paid $1800. Night Vision Guys will price match HCC Tactical which has a 10% off code HCCWARRIOR. Still a steal at $2k, but if anybody is thinking of ordering, that’s how you can save $200. I used my savings to apply to the AGM TM160 which I got for $360 with the discount code. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Same here. $1995 to my door. I’m very impressed so far. Ouch, I paid $1800. Night Vision Guys will price match HCC Tactical which has a 10% off code HCCWARRIOR. Still a steal at $2k, but if anybody is thinking of ordering, that’s how you can save $200. I used my savings to apply to the AGM TM160 which I got for $360 with the discount code. Rattler 25 and Hogster 25 seem to have very close specs. Screen size of 1024x768 on the Rattler v. 1280x960 on the Hogster, and 8x zoom on the Rattler v. 4x zoom on the Hogster seem to be the two biggest differences. Did I miss anything important (other than price)? |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 1:41:19 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rattler 25 and Hogster 25 seem to have very close specs. Screen size of 1024x768 on the Rattler v. 1280x960 on the Hogster, and 8x zoom on the Rattler v. 4x zoom on the Hogster seem to be the two biggest differences. Did I miss anything important (other than price)? Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Same here. $1995 to my door. I’m very impressed so far. Ouch, I paid $1800. Night Vision Guys will price match HCC Tactical which has a 10% off code HCCWARRIOR. Still a steal at $2k, but if anybody is thinking of ordering, that’s how you can save $200. I used my savings to apply to the AGM TM160 which I got for $360 with the discount code. Rattler 25 and Hogster 25 seem to have very close specs. Screen size of 1024x768 on the Rattler v. 1280x960 on the Hogster, and 8x zoom on the Rattler v. 4x zoom on the Hogster seem to be the two biggest differences. Did I miss anything important (other than price)? Well, the AGM does video recording, has a USB-C port for power/video/data, and has a very nice ADM QD mount standard. |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 1:44:03 AM EDT
[#17]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, the AGM does video recording, has a USB-C port for power/video/data, and has a very nice ADM QD mount standard. Did yours come with a crappy mount as well as the ADM and two sets of batteries. My crap mount and second set of batteries were in the bottom layer of the soft case. |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 1:54:17 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Well, the AGM does video recording, has a USB-C port for power/video/data, and has a very nice ADM QD mount standard. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: Same here. $1995 to my door. I’m very impressed so far. Ouch, I paid $1800. Night Vision Guys will price match HCC Tactical which has a 10% off code HCCWARRIOR. Still a steal at $2k, but if anybody is thinking of ordering, that’s how you can save $200. I used my savings to apply to the AGM TM160 which I got for $360 with the discount code. Rattler 25 and Hogster 25 seem to have very close specs. Screen size of 1024x768 on the Rattler v. 1280x960 on the Hogster, and 8x zoom on the Rattler v. 4x zoom on the Hogster seem to be the two biggest differences. Did I miss anything important (other than price)? Well, the AGM does video recording, has a USB-C port for power/video/data, and has a very nice ADM QD mount standard. That's right - thank you. I saw that and then couldn't remember it when I was flipping between two tabs comparing them. |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 1:56:43 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Ouch, I paid $1800. Night Vision Guys will price match HCC Tactical which has a 10% off code HCCWARRIOR. Still a steal at $2k, but if anybody is thinking of ordering, that’s how you can save $200. I used my savings to apply to the AGM TM160 which I got for $360 with the discount code. I don't know what the situation is with this particular item or Night Vision Guys, but you might want to consider not posting those prices so frequently. I know some dealers have told me to please not post discounted prices that they're willing to give over the phone; they can run into some hot water with their suppliers over it I guess. |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 2:02:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know what the situation is with this particular item or Night Vision Guys, but you might want to consider not posting those prices so frequently. I know some dealers have told me to please not post discounted prices that they're willing to give over the phone; they can run into some hot water with their suppliers over it I guess. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Ouch, I paid $1800. Night Vision Guys will price match HCC Tactical which has a 10% off code HCCWARRIOR. Still a steal at $2k, but if anybody is thinking of ordering, that’s how you can save $200. I used my savings to apply to the AGM TM160 which I got for $360 with the discount code. I don't know what the situation is with this particular item or Night Vision Guys, but you might want to consider not posting those prices so frequently. I know some dealers have told me to please not post discounted prices that they're willing to give over the phone; they can run into some hot water with their suppliers over it I guess. ETA - don't mind me, I'm dumb.
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Posted: 3/2/2021 2:16:28 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know what the situation is with this particular item or Night Vision Guys Shady-ass guido characters from NVGs might show up at your house wearing their Adidas track suits. Business ethics are not Felix & Co's strong suit. |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 3:01:30 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did yours come with a crappy mount as well as the ADM and two sets of batteries. My crap mount and second set of batteries were in the bottom layer of the soft case. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Well, the AGM does video recording, has a USB-C port for power/video/data, and has a very nice ADM QD mount standard. Did yours come with a crappy mount as well as the ADM and two sets of batteries. My crap mount and second set of batteries were in the bottom layer of the soft case. Indeed, not sure why I’d want the other mount but the extra batteries are cool. I very much appreciate that the agm supports RC123As too. ETA: you need one of these, makes the focus so much easier.  
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Posted: 3/2/2021 8:29:47 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know what the situation is with this particular item or Night Vision Guys, but you might want to consider not posting those prices so frequently. I know some dealers have told me to please not post discounted prices that they're willing to give over the phone; they can run into some hot water with their suppliers over it I guess. Their website says price match, they don’t advertise anything. You have to call and ask. |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 11:52:27 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Rattler 25 and Hogster 25 seem to have very close specs. Screen size of 1024x768 on the Rattler v. 1280x960 on the Hogster, and 8x zoom on the Rattler v. 4x zoom on the Hogster seem to be the two biggest differences. Did I miss anything important (other than price)? Specs are important but what does the image look like and what does it look like under humidity? The Hogsters have gained a ton of customers because they are dependable and their image has been extremely good in a variety of conditions. A Pulsar RXQ30 has similar specs but the image isn't comparable to the Hogsters as another example. I have zero experience with the Rattler. I was on an early list to test and AGM never sent me one unfortunately. |
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Posted: 3/2/2021 4:36:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Hogster has 4 year, transferrable warranty, AGM is 3 year warranty. Hogster is rated to -14F and AGM is -4F. These are a few additional specs not mentioned. Specs are important but what does the image look like and what does it look like under humidity? The Hogsters have gained a ton of customers because they are dependable and their image has been extremely good in a variety of conditions. A Pulsar RXQ30 has similar specs but the image isn't comparable to the Hogsters as another example. I have zero experience with the Rattler. I was on an early list to test and AGM never sent me one unfortunately. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Rattler 25 and Hogster 25 seem to have very close specs. Screen size of 1024x768 on the Rattler v. 1280x960 on the Hogster, and 8x zoom on the Rattler v. 4x zoom on the Hogster seem to be the two biggest differences. Did I miss anything important (other than price)? Specs are important but what does the image look like and what does it look like under humidity? The Hogsters have gained a ton of customers because they are dependable and their image has been extremely good in a variety of conditions. A Pulsar RXQ30 has similar specs but the image isn't comparable to the Hogsters as another example. I have zero experience with the Rattler. I was on an early list to test and AGM never sent me one unfortunately. I'm sure there are quite a number of minor differences, but I was just trying to identify the biggest ones. I'm window shopping at the moment and haven't decided whether to pull the trigger or keep waiting. I don't have a specific or urgent need - its more of a just-in-case, so value is probably the biggest valuation over any one specific feature. |
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Posted: 3/6/2021 4:19:27 PM EDT
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This is what a coyote hunt looks like with a Super Hogster. Still a lot better through the eyepiece. This is 90% humidity and the Hogster's video files are ultra-compressed which makes sharing via social media a lot easier. The Super Hogster compression ratio ends up at about about 7MB per minute which yields a really small video file.
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Posted: 3/6/2021 5:37:03 PM EDT
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 Attached FileGot my 25mm Hogster last night. I need to do some study before I try to shoot (the do everything with three buttons thing is not easy and I've never zeroed something digital) Tonight I'm gonna try hiding from it. |
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Posted: 3/6/2021 5:38:16 PM EDT
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What do I need to do to record video?
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Posted: 3/6/2021 5:45:18 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryQuoted: What do I need to do to record video? Buy an external video recorder. Only the super hogster offers internal recording. |
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Posted: 3/6/2021 5:48:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buy an external video recorder. Only the super hogster offers internal recording. |
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Posted: 3/6/2021 5:50:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Buy an external video recorder. Only the super hogster offers internal recording. |
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Posted: 3/6/2021 5:53:06 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: i know, can I make my phone work? Most phones don't allow a connection to an analog video signal. Not trying to make this even more confusing but but there are a few DVRs that also can stream video. If you did that you could load an app on your phone, and then stream the video from the mini DVR to your phone. However, if you are already using a DVR to connect to the scope, why stream it, if you can just record it on the DVR. It adds another layer of complexity. |
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Posted: 3/9/2021 2:02:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: This is what a coyote hunt looks like with a Super Hogster. Still a lot better through the eyepiece. This is 90% humidity and the Hogster's video files are ultra-compressed which makes sharing via social media a lot easier. The Super Hogster compression ratio ends up at about about 7MB per minute which yields a really small video file.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKIeK3hhO8USo if you have the choice between the SH and a Thermion XQ38, would you feel disadvantaged going with the SH for coyotes? I'm asking about the SH given that it seems to be more readily available than the Thermion. I live in SD and a friend of mind picked up a XM50 and has been sending me all of his videos of his hunts which is killing me. I don't have the cash for an XM50 and the the XQ38 and SH would be a little bit of stretch for me as well. Frankly, the Hogster 25 is more of my budget but I know that's a no go given my location and quarry. |
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Posted: 3/9/2021 5:14:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So if you have the choice between the SH and a Thermion XQ38, would you feel disadvantaged going with the SH for coyotes? I'm asking about the SH given that it seems to be more readily available than the Thermion. I live in SD and a friend of mind picked up a XM50 and has been sending me all of his videos of his hunts which is killing me. I don't have the cash for an XM50 and the the XQ38 and SH would be a little bit of stretch for me as well. Frankly, the Hogster 25 is more of my budget but I know that's a no go given my location and quarry. I hunt ND, so I assume similar terrain as in SD with rolling plains, etc. The SH 2.9x native magnification is better suited for this terrain. Also, due to the 12µm sensor vs the 17µm sensor of the Pulsar, I believe it retains a better quality image under digital magnification so the PIP will be clearer. The Thermion is probably the better option if you wish to mount on a bolt gun without an extended rail. The SH includes a QD mount, seems less impacted by humidity, has a 4 year transferrable warranty, and is much more compact. As a Prostaff for Night Goggles which sells Pulsar, Flir, Trijicon and Bering, I own the Bering Optics Super Hogster and Bering Optics Phenom scanner. I realize budget is tight, but one more thing to consider is to be a really effective coyote hunter at night, you really need a scanner as well as a scope. Your buddy with the XM50 is missing far too many animals if he is scanning with this narrow field of view scope. A thermal scanner is the most important piece of equipment for nighttime coyote hunting. Feel free to send me a PM if you wish to discuss thermal coyote hunting as I can then send you my cell number and we can chat. |
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Posted: 3/9/2021 10:33:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: 2.5x is a great all around compromise Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Right but usage and terrain play a big part in features and native magnification. I wouldn't reco something with a 5x native mag in 640 if the OP is wanting to just pop hogs at 50 yards in the woods and scan his back yard. Nor would you reco a 1x 320 system if you need to PID at 300 across open fields. Intended use plays a big role in determining what you need. If using it for some kind of home defense you may be better off with a scanner and nods with a laser. So OP, tell us more about your intended uses and terrain. I'm about to pull the trigger on a Trijicon IR Hunter MK3 35mm (2.5x). My intended use is to drive out to my blinds with lights out with my NODs (this is fun), sit in my blind, and shoot pigs from 25 yards to as far out as I can ID them. Some of my blinds have 1000+ yard views. 1. Would there be any other units I should be looking at for this? 2. Would the 60mm be better for this? I feel like that might be a bit much magnification for <50 yards. Also a $1500 jump for a little more magnification seems a bit much. 3. What would be a practical maximum range to ID a pig vs. a cow vs. a deer vs. whatever with the 35mm unit? I'm not made of money but after using a friend's new 384 resolution Pulsar (I forget exactly which one) I decided I wanted something with 640. |
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Posted: 3/10/2021 12:02:23 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm about to pull the trigger on a Trijicon IR Hunter MK3 35mm (2.5x). My intended use is to drive out to my blinds with lights out with my NODs (this is fun), sit in my blind, and shoot pigs from 25 yards to as far out as I can ID them. Some of my blinds have 1000+ yard views. 1. Would there be any other units I should be looking at for this? 2. Would the 60mm be better for this? I feel like that might be a bit much magnification for <50 yards. Also a $1500 jump for a little more magnification seems a bit much. 3. What would be a practical maximum range to ID a pig vs. a cow vs. a deer vs. whatever with the 35mm unit? I'm not made of money but after using a friend's new 384 resolution Pulsar (I forget exactly which one) I decided I wanted something with 640. I am not an expert, just an occasional coyote hunter. As Korey said above, a scanner is a must for hunting. trying to scan with your scope 1) sucks and 2) you muzzle sweep everything and 3) it sucks. I have found in my nonprofessional use, a 2-3 native mag is the most useful to me. It has a reasonable field of view but also no problem with shots out to 300 or so. Could probably do more if I had more time behind it. If I had 1000 yards clear, maybe add a 50-60mm unit again, but the one i had (pulsar XQ50 apex) the FOV was just too tight. Was a good scope just most of my shots were ~ 100 yards and it was like a 9 degree field of view at that range. Pretty tight I felt. I have the MKIII and really like it, other than its heavy, I would also consider the Nvision and maybe the Reap IR since its basically the same as the MKIII only in a smaller and lighter form. |
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Posted: 3/10/2021 12:59:39 AM EDT
[#37]
I do a ton of hog hunting and have used AGM, FLIR, Trijicon, Pulsar and NVision products.
In my opinion, the best bang for the bank are the Pulsar Trail products. A couple of things that I really like about them are the rechargeable battery (not having to spend money all the time on CR123's), onboard recording, wide field of view, and multiple profiles for zeroing. I moved my Trail from gun to gun and didn't have issues with it re-zeroing. However, there have been issues with it holding zero for other people. Not sure if you can find a Trail under $3k, but I would save a little more money and get one. I think a Pulsar Trail 2 LRF XQ50 runs a little over $4k which has a built in laser rangefinder |
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Posted: 3/10/2021 5:49:18 PM EDT
[#38]
With Korey's help I ordered my super hogster today
 . Now the long wait for it to come back in stock. In the meantime, are there any good battery pack options for this bad boy? I saw a TNVC TRB on the night goggles sight but didn't see Bering as one of the supported manufacturers. Thanks! |
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Posted: 3/10/2021 5:53:29 PM EDT
[#39]
Quote HistoryQuoted: With Korey's help I ordered my super hogster today . Now the long wait for it to come back in stock. In the meantime, are there any good battery pack options for this bad boy? I saw a TNVC TRB on the night goggles sight but didn't see Bering as one of the supported manufacturers. Thanks! Second battery packs recommendations. I could use one for my AGM Rattler which has a USB-C connection. Everything I've found seems to have micro USB. |
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Posted: 3/10/2021 6:06:58 PM EDT
[#40]
Quote HistoryQuoted: FOV and magnification are the practical differences. 25: 1.4x base mag, 14.9° FOV: Comfortable Shooting to around 150 yards. 35: 2x base mag, 10.7° FOV: Comfortable Shooting to around 225 yards. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: Could you discuss the practical difference between the 25 and 35mm Hogster? This is $3k expense sight unseen and it has me a little worried 25: 1.4x base mag, 14.9° FOV: Comfortable Shooting to around 150 yards. 35: 2x base mag, 10.7° FOV: Comfortable Shooting to around 225 yards. This! ^^^^ Field of View (FOV) is huge to me and having a good optical magnification with good FOV seems to be the inverse. It’s tough when you really want a wide FOV which typically (not always) means lower base magnification. Then when you magnify digitally above the base magnification, you cut the resolution. Really good advice/guidance above with approximate ranges. |
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Posted: 3/10/2021 6:13:55 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Second battery packs recommendations. I could use one for my AGM Rattler which has a USB-C connection. Everything I've found seems to have micro USB. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: With Korey's help I ordered my super hogster today . Now the long wait for it to come back in stock. In the meantime, are there any good battery pack options for this bad boy? I saw a TNVC TRB on the night goggles sight but didn't see Bering as one of the supported manufacturers. Thanks! Second battery packs recommendations. I could use one for my AGM Rattler which has a USB-C connection. Everything I've found seems to have micro USB. The round anker 5000 mah battery has a normal USB output, your standard rattler cable (USB to USB-C) will work fine. There are a variety of mounts available from https://apex3d.shop/. |
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Posted: 3/10/2021 7:41:53 PM EDT
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Posted: 3/10/2021 11:49:41 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: The round anker 5000 mah battery has a normal USB output, your standard rattler cable (USB to USB-C) will work fine. There are a variety of mounts available from https://apex3d.shop/. Thanks, any idea what the voltage of these are? Can’t find it in the description. I know the Rattler uses 3.0V CR123 and 3.7V RCR123 batteries. Curious what setting you’d need to set the scope to when using an external battery pack. |
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Posted: 3/10/2021 11:52:58 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Thanks, any idea what the voltage of these are? Can’t find it in the description. I know the Rattler uses 3.0V CR123 and 3.7V RCR123 batteries. Curious what setting you’d need to set the scope to when using an external battery pack. Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: The round anker 5000 mah battery has a normal USB output, your standard rattler cable (USB to USB-C) will work fine. There are a variety of mounts available from https://apex3d.shop/. Thanks, any idea what the voltage of these are? Can’t find it in the description. I know the Rattler uses 3.0V CR123 and 3.7V RCR123 batteries. Curious what setting you’d need to set the scope to when using an external battery pack. External power is 5vdc, you don’t need to select anything different in the menu, it’ll run off the external pack until depleted then switch to internal power. |
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Posted: 3/11/2021 12:09:04 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: External power is 5vdc, you don’t need to select anything different in the menu, it’ll run off the external pack until depleted then switch to internal power. Badass, thank you |
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Posted: 3/12/2021 6:32:53 PM EDT
[#46]
I have been lurking a bit on this thread and reading up on thermal. It "seems" like a clip on thermal would be the most flexible vs. a thermal scope, but it also seems like that is wrong from some reading. Maybe someone can chime in and set me straight. I'd think a clip on that mounts in front of your optic gives you the most flexibility to move from platform to platform, does not require swapping of things, and you could just throw it in a bag and put on whatever you have (RDS, LPVO, magnified optic, etc). That being said, reading up on the Hogster and AGM devices, they seem like pretty great value for the $2-$3K range and would be pretty easy to swap with any QD optic you have. Thanks!
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Posted: 3/14/2021 1:30:03 AM EDT
[#47]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I have been lurking a bit on this thread and reading up on thermal. It "seems" like a clip on thermal would be the most flexible vs. a thermal scope, but it also seems like that is wrong from some reading. Maybe someone can chime in and set me straight. I'd think a clip on that mounts in front of your optic gives you the most flexibility to move from platform to platform, does not require swapping of things, and you could just throw it in a bag and put on whatever you have (RDS, LPVO, magnified optic, etc). That being said, reading up on the Hogster and AGM devices, they seem like pretty great value for the $2-$3K range and would be pretty easy to swap with any QD optic you have. Thanks! I think it's mistake to start one's venture into the thermal world with a Clip On. I'll leave it at that. |
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Posted: 3/14/2021 2:41:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I have been lurking a bit on this thread and reading up on thermal. It "seems" like a clip on thermal would be the most flexible vs. a thermal scope, but it also seems like that is wrong from some reading. Maybe someone can chime in and set me straight. I'd think a clip on that mounts in front of your optic gives you the most flexibility to move from platform to platform, does not require swapping of things, and you could just throw it in a bag and put on whatever you have (RDS, LPVO, magnified optic, etc). That being said, reading up on the Hogster and AGM devices, they seem like pretty great value for the $2-$3K range and would be pretty easy to swap with any QD optic you have. Thanks! From what I’ve read the only clip ons worth buying are $$$ mil spec units, not commercial. Thermals are a day/night scope unlike NVDs. QD mounts make it easy enough to swap optics and most thermal users probably have one or more dedicated night hunting rifles for hogs/yotes. I’ve been extremely impressed with my AGM, and it’s the “low” scope in my eventual low/high mix. |
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Posted: 3/15/2021 5:06:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: From what I’ve read the only clip ons worth buying are $$$ mil spec units, not commercial. Thermals are a day/night scope unlike NVDs. QD mounts make it easy enough to swap optics and most thermal users probably have one or more dedicated night hunting rifles for hogs/yotes. I’ve been extremely impressed with my AGM, and it’s the “low” scope in my eventual low/high mix. I'm really impressed as well. The  WFGTest3 12 21 |
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Posted: 3/15/2021 6:03:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I'm really impressed as well. The https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veaR8LTsFOM upload to YouTube seems to have degraded thee quality some.Quote HistoryQuoted: Quoted: From what I’ve read the only clip ons worth buying are $$$ mil spec units, not commercial. Thermals are a day/night scope unlike NVDs. QD mounts make it easy enough to swap optics and most thermal users probably have one or more dedicated night hunting rifles for hogs/yotes. I’ve been extremely impressed with my AGM, and it’s the “low” scope in my eventual low/high mix. I'm really impressed as well. The https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=veaR8LTsFOM upload to YouTube seems to have degraded thee quality some.Speaking of rattlers. If you want to use yours as a hand scanner I highly recommend this gadget: https://apex3d.shop/collections/power-kits/products/scanner-handle The pic rail could use a few more slots for the AGM mount but its solid enough with one crossbar engaged.  It does have a lanyard hole too, to avoid dropping your scope on a rock. |
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