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Posted: 1/31/2020 12:41:33 AM EDT
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They must be waiting and opening stuff in batches or something because same here. USPS 2020-01-29 13:14 ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS), Processed Through Facility -> Your item has been processed through our facility in ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS) at 1:14 pm on January 29, 2020. 2020-01-10 16:56 RUSSIAN FEDERATION, MOSKVA PCI 7, Processed Through Facility  , lol
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Posted: 1/31/2020 1:06:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was thinking the same thing. My first order came in two weeks to the day (Express.) The second order arrived today, but I didn't get any update after the same Moskva PCI 7 terminal. I also paid for Express on this last order, and it was one day late (Jan 4th order) of scheduled delivery. I am not complaining, except for the Russian BO of the packer , lol |
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Posted: 1/31/2020 2:08:12 AM EDT
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It looks like the Perst-4P is a way better choice then the Perst-4.... Anyone confirm this? |
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Posted: 1/31/2020 9:59:28 AM EDT
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The Perst 4P I have didnt hold zero very well. @lilMAC25 |
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Posted: 1/31/2020 10:19:36 AM EDT
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The Perst 4P I have didnt hold zero very well. |
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Posted: 1/31/2020 4:40:14 PM EDT
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14 days dacha to door. Not a mark on it and everything appears to be G2G, have to verify tonight. 12mW Green was visible at 2PM, light cloud cover, snow on the ground, out to about 50-75yds (just holding in hand).
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Posted: 1/31/2020 6:03:01 PM EDT
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Mine showed up today. My wife wondered why I ordered "Russian flashlights" 
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Posted: 1/31/2020 6:11:58 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Maybe I’ll get mine tomorrow, as I haven’t seen it today, nor has there been any change in the tracking |
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Posted: 1/31/2020 6:49:16 PM EDT
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In some of the videos, you can see color/it laser bleed, is that common. I have 3, perst 4 gen 2 plus, and they all do it to a degree. One of then was really bad, so I sent it back to Black Phase to RMA.
The ir laser especially, it had a full circle of splash at 20-25 yards |
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Posted: 1/31/2020 7:28:17 PM EDT
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Meant to ask you, did you ever figure out why? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Perst 4P I have didnt hold zero very well. It is a very early serial #34 I think. |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 2:25:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Yeah, that's not right. Did you try a new battery? Yeah, I know - obvious. Also, make sure the intensity is dialed all the way up on the switch or on the side buttons. Sucks if you got a lemon. You'll know if it's working right, the illuminator is kick ass and the pointer is actually a bit too bright even in the lowest setting. |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 7:10:54 AM EDT
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In some of the videos, you can see color/it laser bleed, is that common. I have 3, perst 4 gen 2 plus, and they all do it to a degree. One of then was really bad, so I sent it back to Black Phase to RMA. The ir laser especially, it had a full circle of splash at 20-25 yards 1. My Blue LED on the back, that is supposed to illuminate any time any IR mode is active, just doesn't work at all. The Red illuminates when Green is active, but no Blue. You can adjust the brightness of that LED by pressing and holding the top button, and pressing +/-, and again, works when Green is active, no light at all for IR. 2. *Indoors* (average sized bedroom), I get a "Halo" or Ring, way outside/around the pointer. I have no idea if its because of the power (20mW on Max, no idea on Min) interacting with the glass of the diode or lens. Thought it was a dirty lens at first, but that's not it. Going down a hallway it almost disappears. But outside, even at 25yds, it's perfect (The IR Pointer Dot seems big, even on Min power, but that may be due to the power?) - this thing is a Death Star Ion Cannon. Coming from a Holosun 321G, I was just laughing the whole time. It was cold, so I didn't stay out long. The Pressure Switch is a work of art. All in all, I'm stoked - would it be nice for perfection in a new $1300 device, yes, I guess it should be expected - maybe if they were Amazon, I'd exchange for another. But the Blue LED is literally useless to me (I can just look/feel the selector dial) and the "Halo" at 10 ft - meh. I sent Zenit Co a message on Ebay about it, we'll see what they say - if they want to send another and I get to use this until it arrives, I'll do it. But if they want it back first, nah. I'm good. |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 7:29:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So I did just try a new battery just now and it seemed to work... Until I bumped it in my hand, now the faint laser is back, with illumination on in laser only mode. Weird since it seemed to cooperate for the pics I was taking for this thread. I will post them when I get on my other computer. I think I got a dud.  Sorrry... Hopefully you got to see it enough to know it's potential ability. I saw in a movie that the way they fix it in Mother Russia is to hit it with a large wrench. Maybe worth a try? 
Someone on here also had a problem and they (Ivan Tac?) sent a new one before the old was even returned. May wanna push for that option. |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 7:34:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I don't know if this is what your talking about, as this is my first full power unit, but last night I played around and noticed some things: 1. My Blue LED on the back, that is supposed to illuminate any time any IR mode is active, just doesn't work at all. The Red illuminates when Green is active, but no Blue. You can adjust the brightness of that LED by pressing and holding the top button, and pressing +/-, and again, works when Green is active, no light at all for IR. 2. *Indoors* (average sized bedroom), I get a "Halo" or Ring, way outside/around the pointer. I have no idea if its because of the power (20mW on Max, no idea on Min) interacting with the glass of the diode or lens. Thought it was a dirty lens at first, but that's not it. Going down a hallway it almost disappears. But outside, even at 25yds, it's perfect (The IR Pointer Dot seems big, even on Min power, but that may be due to the power?) - this thing is a Death Star Ion Cannon. Coming from a Holosun 321G, I was just laughing the whole time. It was cold, so I didn't stay out long. The Pressure Switch is a work of art. All in all, I'm stoked - would it be nice for perfection in a new $1300 device, yes, I guess it should be expected - maybe if they were Amazon, I'd exchange for another. But the Blue LED is literally useless to me (I can just look/feel the selector dial) and the "Halo" at 10 ft - meh. I sent Zenit Co a message on Ebay about it, we'll see what they say - if they want to send another and I get to use this until it arrives, I'll do it. But if they want it back first, nah. I'm good. |
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Posted: 2/1/2020 7:49:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Are you looking at the Blue LED in the dark to check function? It's pretty dim, doubt I would have even seen it if I didn't notice it in very dark conditions. What I like about it is it doesn't bloom back at me under nods. I usually have to put tape over my LDI/Steiner units. 
Edit: BTW, that was with naked eyes obviously - that's what the function is for - but your right, I can look under NODs and definitely tell if its lit. |
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Posted: 2/2/2020 5:50:40 PM EDT
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It took some work to resurrect my account from the dead (haven't posted in a few years), but I'm taking plunge into NV, and have lurked here the past few weeks, reading... learning... and I'm thankful for this subforum.
I'm currently awaiting my PVS-14 and other stuff from TNVC, and decided to order a Perst-3 after being tied between that and a DBAL D2. Can't wait to see what this thing is all about...besides $$$. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 1:07:12 AM EDT
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I had trouble with my PERST-3 last night at the ETTS shoot.
Mounted on a SCAR 17 SBR. The laser would turn on when selecting mode without hitting a fire button. If I moved the selector to red, red laser comes on. If I move it to any IR setting, IR laser (no illuminator) comes on. I couldn’t get it to turn off. Push the fire button many times, and it sometimes would go off. Sometimes it would just shut off on its own after a few minutes. I tried running some stages with it stuck on, and it would sometimes shut itself off and sometimes come back on while I was blasting away. There was a lot of transitioning to my red dot and back to laser while this was happening.
My first thought was that the SCAR killed it. I wanted to troubleshoot it when I got home. However, it was working perfectly fine when I was playing with it in my gun room after the shoot. I then thought maybe the the battery was getting weak, and the 40 deg temp was enough to cause it to freak out on low voltage. So I stuck it in my fridge. Couldn’t replicate the problem. I then stuck it in my freezer for a few hours with the battery cover off. Nice and frosty, but still couldn’t make it choke up. I’m completely stumped. Any ideas? It’s working fine right now. I can’t ship a functioning laser back to Russia for warranty. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 8:59:55 AM EDT
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Were you using the tape switch? Could something be bumping one of the fire buttons or it was stuck? Try holding a fire button down and see if it replicates what was happening.
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Posted: 2/3/2020 10:51:42 AM EDT
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No resolution to actually receiving my Dec 5 purchased, Dec 15 Russia departed, PERST2, but a big thumbs up to Ivan Tactical for how he’s handling it. Emailed and said it’s been a month since it left Russia and not sure if it’s ever going to arrive. Offered to keep the purchase alive for a replacement or he could refund my money. He was back to me in less than an hour and said a new unit would be headed my way tomorrow. He asked if the original purchase arrived to just refuse receipt so it could be shipped back to him. He said customer service was priority, especially for ‘premium level goods.’ So, still no P2 in hand, but I feel confident I eventually will. If I end up with two in hand I might just ask him to charge me for the second so long as the first lives up to expectations. Looking forward to getting it mounted and basement finger banging by the weekend. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:05:16 AM EDT
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Can you use like a TAPs switch with a surefire and Perst4?
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Posted: 2/3/2020 11:10:54 AM EDT
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It looks like the Perst-4P is a way better choice then the Perst-4.... Anyone confirm this? |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 12:23:38 PM EDT
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Can you use like a TAPs switch with a surefire and Perst4? |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 1:57:58 PM EDT
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Were you using the tape switch? Could something be bumping one of the fire buttons or it was stuck? Try holding a fire button down and see if it replicates what was happening. I’m confident it wasn’t stuck buttons. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 2:03:37 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I was not using the tape switch. I’m confident it wasn’t stuck buttons. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 2:52:33 PM EDT
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Which perst model you have? Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: I was not using the tape switch. I’m confident it wasn’t stuck buttons. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 5:05:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: To close the loop on this, the second P2 Ivan got moving my way seems to have made it out from behind the Iron Curtain without issue. Tracking started on 22 Jan and it's at my local distribution facility now after leaving Russia on the 24th and arriving at NY customs on the 1st. Looking forward to getting it mounted and basement finger banging by the weekend. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 7:27:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had trouble with my PERST-3 last night at the ETTS shoot. Mounted on a SCAR 17 SBR. The laser would turn on when selecting mode without hitting a fire button. If I moved the selector to red, red laser comes on. If I move it to any IR setting, IR laser (no illuminator) comes on. I couldn’t get it to turn off. Push the fire button many times, and it sometimes would go off. Sometimes it would just shut off on its own after a few minutes. I tried running some stages with it stuck on, and it would sometimes shut itself off and sometimes come back on while I was blasting away. There was a lot of transitioning to my red dot and back to laser while this was happening.
My first thought was that the SCAR killed it. I wanted to troubleshoot it when I got home. However, it was working perfectly fine when I was playing with it in my gun room after the shoot. I then thought maybe the the battery was getting weak, and the 40 deg temp was enough to cause it to freak out on low voltage. So I stuck it in my fridge. Couldn’t replicate the problem. I then stuck it in my freezer for a few hours with the battery cover off. Nice and frosty, but still couldn’t make it choke up. I’m completely stumped. Any ideas? It’s working fine right now. I can’t ship a functioning laser back to Russia for warranty. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 7:33:14 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Sorrry... Hopefully you got to see it enough to know it's potential ability. I saw in a movie that the way they fix it in Mother Russia is to hit it with a large wrench. Maybe worth a try?
Someone on here also had a problem and they (Ivan Tac?) sent a new one before the old was even returned. May wanna push for that option. 
First(Left to Right) Steiner OTAL-C, MAWL C1+, Perst 3 gen1 red Second pic you can see the laser in bottom left hand of Illum(barely in this pic, but through nods you see it) in Illum only mode. Third pic is after I bumped it with my hand and you can barely see the laser in the dark spot on the fence made by my security cameras. There is a slight ring around it which was/is the illum in this mode. So strange. |
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Posted: 2/3/2020 9:36:45 PM EDT
[#29]
I have the Gen1 plug. I noticed if you're on Illuminator/ laser the dial only adjust the illumination brightness. Laser stays at the same power output. You can go to IR laser only, turn the brightness level up or down and it will stay at that output regardless of what you change the illuminator to.
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Posted: 2/4/2020 9:15:01 AM EDT
[#30]
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Mines been sitting in NY for a week, got to Jamaica NY this morning, hasn’t moved since. Fucking sucks. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: To close the loop on this, the second P2 Ivan got moving my way seems to have made it out from behind the Iron Curtain without issue. Tracking started on 22 Jan and it's at my local distribution facility now after leaving Russia on the 24th and arriving at NY customs on the 1st. Looking forward to getting it mounted and basement finger banging by the weekend. |
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Posted: 2/4/2020 10:12:20 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: https://i.imgur.com/dAswptD.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qbwLjix.jpg https://i.imgur.com/9d0WLga.jpg First(Left to Right) Steiner OTAL-C, MAWL C1+, Perst 3 gen1 red Second pic you can see the laser in bottom left hand of Illum(barely in this pic, but through nods you see it) in Illum only mode. Third pic is after I bumped it with my hand and you can barely see the laser in the dark spot on the fence made by my security cameras. There is a slight ring around it which was/is the illum in this mode. So strange. Again, mine has been treated like crap. Dropped and banged around. There is something internally wrong with yours. |
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Posted: 2/4/2020 11:29:34 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I paid for expedited shipping, which apparently comes into play once it arrives to NY.
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Posted: 2/4/2020 11:34:26 AM EDT
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My 4+ green laser arrived yesterday. It took 17 days to arrive. My initial impressions are good. I have only had time to mount it and rough zero the visible laser. I’m hoping to take it to the range Friday to verify the zero and make sure it holds a zero.
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Posted: 2/4/2020 1:52:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Need to return it. Again, mine has been treated like crap. Dropped and banged around. There is something internally wrong with yours. |
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Posted: 2/4/2020 3:30:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: I had trouble with my PERST-3 last night at the ETTS shoot. Mounted on a SCAR 17 SBR. The laser would turn on when selecting mode without hitting a fire button. If I moved the selector to red, red laser comes on. If I move it to any IR setting, IR laser (no illuminator) comes on. I couldn’t get it to turn off. Push the fire button many times, and it sometimes would go off. Sometimes it would just shut off on its own after a few minutes. I tried running some stages with it stuck on, and it would sometimes shut itself off and sometimes come back on while I was blasting away. There was a lot of transitioning to my red dot and back to laser while this was happening.
My first thought was that the SCAR killed it. I wanted to troubleshoot it when I got home. However, it was working perfectly fine when I was playing with it in my gun room after the shoot. I then thought maybe the the battery was getting weak, and the 40 deg temp was enough to cause it to freak out on low voltage. So I stuck it in my fridge. Couldn’t replicate the problem. I then stuck it in my freezer for a few hours with the battery cover off. Nice and frosty, but still couldn’t make it choke up. I’m completely stumped. Any ideas? It’s working fine right now. I can’t ship a functioning laser back to Russia for warranty. |
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Posted: 2/4/2020 9:01:40 PM EDT
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Finally got mine. It was delayed in mail because of holiday issues. Paid for on December 2nd, and received on February 3rd. Shipping sucked, but not Ivan’s fault. Unit is extremely solid. Initial impression is far better than I expected. Hope to update soon with some pics to follow.
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Posted: 2/5/2020 12:46:48 PM EDT
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Finally got mine. It was delayed in mail because of holiday issues. Paid for on December 2nd, and received on February 3rd. Shipping sucked, but not Ivan’s fault. Unit is extremely solid. Initial impression is far better than I expected. Hope to update soon with some pics to follow. Planning to pick up my P2 from the PO tomorrow and play around in the basement tomorrow night
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Posted: 2/5/2020 3:06:10 PM EDT
[#38]
Got mine as well today, managed to intercept the mailman on lunch.
What a fucking powerhouse of a unit, though; I can see the green laser hit targets from 300~400m away under an overcast sky. |
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Posted: 2/5/2020 3:59:45 PM EDT
[#39]
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Got mine as well today, managed to intercept the mailman on lunch. What a fucking powerhouse of a unit, though; I can see the green laser hit targets from 300~400m away under an overcast sky. |
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Posted: 2/5/2020 4:13:25 PM EDT
[#40]
I have had the perst 3 since Summer 2019, we just went through 34 Days below zero degrees F.
The battery has the same battery from Russia, and the perst 3 stayed in my car at -20F for 6 hours a day 5 days a week. The battery has not shown any degrade nor has the laser weakend. This thing is Russia proof. |
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Posted: 2/5/2020 4:47:29 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Did you get the Green+ (18mW)? I have the 12mW regular green and we have some sun today - saw it on a brick driveway pillar about 75yds away in the sun. |
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Posted: 2/5/2020 8:48:32 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/5/2020 9:48:50 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/5/2020 11:12:45 PM EDT
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 Zenitco factory: how are Perst-3 and Perst-4 manufactured? Would have liked to see a little more but neat nonetheless. |
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Posted: 2/6/2020 9:23:00 AM EDT
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Got mine out last night (not live fire) and adjusted everything. The clicks for the Viz/IR LASERs are really nice - positive and tactile AF. The absolutely perfect circle of the illuminator kills me, its so nice. Adjusting that, is a bit of a PITA, but works fine to center it over the LASER pointer and only needs to be done once - nice that they provide a long Allen tool, doing it with the built in tool looks painful (but possible). I've got mine a smidge "out" from screwed all the way in, which provides about an 6' circle at 50 yds, unscrewing narrows it down for longer range. It's bright AF - I'm at 1 click up from minimum - anything more and I just get a solid white circle - can't see what's *in* the circle (using Auroras). Happy so far :thumbsup:
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Posted: 2/6/2020 11:38:36 AM EDT
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 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHpdOSneKaQ
Would have liked to see a little more but neat nonetheless. |
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Posted: 2/6/2020 7:13:23 PM EDT
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Picked up my P2 from the PO this evening. Haven't had a chance to play under NVGs yet, but even the visible laser and white light are legit.
Also got a missed delivery notice for the first unit which got lost for 7 weeks. Thinking I'll just give Ivan some more cash and pick it up tomorrow instead of having it sent back. |
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Posted: 2/6/2020 7:21:17 PM EDT
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Posted: 2/7/2020 7:24:48 PM EDT
[#49]
Buddy of mine just jumped into the NV game and picked up an extra setup so I can shoot with him
. If I were going to spend $500 on a laser, should I jump on a Perst 4? I like the idea of having a vis laser too when not shooting under nods. Ivan has one of the green+ gen 2 in stock and I am thinking about jumping on it. Thoughts?
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Posted: 2/7/2020 8:11:47 PM EDT
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Buddy of mine just jumped into the NV game and picked up an extra setup so I can shoot with him . If I were going to spend $500 on a laser, should I jump on a Perst 4? I like the idea of having a vis laser too when not shooting under nods. Ivan has one of the green+ gen 2 in stock and I am thinking about jumping on it. Thoughts? |
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