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Posted: 2/9/2018 1:48:00 PM EDT

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Just canceled my order from optics planet. Found a place that has 1 left after my order. Boss Firearms out of college station texas has it. You have to call as its not on there web site. If you have a gun broker account, its on there. Good luck.

Posted: 2/10/2018 11:41:42 AM EDT

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Mine was delivered the other day, just got a chance to play with it last night.
Still trying to find my way around, but so far so good. Looks great for the money.
Walked down my street with it to see what I could see with it and it performed well. ID’d a couple of critters with it, watched the dog go to the bathroom, followed my kids' footsteps down the hall carpet, looked for some cold leaks...just general messing around. It performed very well and I was impressed.

The color palettes were cool. Though white hot was what I used most.
Reticles seemed perfectly useable/serviceable.
Range looked good, but the only animals I saw were cats at ~75 yards, so I can’t really say for sure

I’m happy with it!

Posted: 2/10/2018 12:19:06 PM EDT

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Good to hear. Mine comes in wednesday. All the research I did led me to the Flir for what I wanted in my 1st thermal. But If I had the money, found a place that had the 536 in stock that would have been better. By end of year some of the new thermals should go down in price a bit.

Posted: 2/10/2018 12:46:43 PM EDT

[#4]

We have more PTS233 units coming in 2 weeks. We also have some very cool video coming with the PTS 536 and 736 AND Breach units.

Posted: 2/10/2018 2:32:08 PM EDT

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Woohoo!

Posted: 2/10/2018 3:47:36 PM EDT

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Got my 233 in and played with it last night. In white hot mode, woody stuff like trees and branches show up more than I'd expect so the image is really bright and washed out with poor resolution in general. May have to find better settings. In Outdoor Preset Settings mode.

The Outdoor Alert palette diminished the brightness quite a bit, and I spotted a rabbit easily. No identity resolution to rabbit, even at 20' or so, just a hot blob. Wasn't sure it was a critter until it turned and hopped away.

Posted: 2/10/2018 4:51:01 PM EDT

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Got my 233 in and played with it last night. In white hot mode, woody stuff like trees and branches show up more than I'd expect so the image is really bright and washed out with poor resolution in general. May have to find better settings. In Outdoor Preset Settings mode.

The Outdoor Alert palette diminished the brightness quite a bit, and I spotted a rabbit easily. No identity resolution to rabbit, even at 20' or so, just a hot blob. Wasn't sure it was a critter until it turned and hopped away.

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... something is askew, mine is crystal clear

Posted: 2/10/2018 5:44:00 PM EDT

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That definitely doesn't describe mine. Just played with it some more, 32F outside and overcast. Poor definition at 50 yards, not like the screenshots and video I've seen.

Posted: 2/10/2018 8:22:48 PM EDT

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That definitely doesn't describe mine. Just played with it some more, 32F outside and overcast. Poor definition at 50 yards, not like the screenshots and video I've seen.

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Did you turn the focus knob to try and make it clearer?

Posted: 2/10/2018 9:13:39 PM EDT

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To the guy having trouble....... not sure what your looking at exactly, but you’ll need to adjust settings . Every night is different. Different humidity, which is thermal killer. Different temp differential during day . All of these things add up . Use contrast , brightness ect to adjust until you get image you like best , on that night . But you do have to keep in mind, it’s not a $9000 unit with a great big lens . You’ll never get that same image quality. Period .there is always a chance something is wrong with it, but usually it’s user setting, or lack there of that affect image quality for whatever that particular model may be . Keep adjusting it. Put some pictures up if you can.

Posted: 2/10/2018 10:25:22 PM EDT

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Yes, but it only focuses the screen, there's no focus on this model for close or distant objects.

Posted: 2/10/2018 10:30:11 PM EDT

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To the guy having trouble....... not sure what your looking at exactly, but you’ll need to adjust settings . Every night is different. Different humidity, which is thermal killer. Different temp differential during day . All of these things add up . Use contrast , brightness ect to adjust until you get image you like best , on that night . But you do have to keep in mind, it’s not a $9000 unit with a great big lens . You’ll never get that same image quality. Period .there is always a chance something is wrong with it, but usually it’s user setting, or lack there of that affect image quality for whatever that particular model may be . Keep adjusting it. Put some pictures up if you can.

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I've played with contrast, brightness and palettes. I can toggle between white hot and outdoor now to get a comparison. I've got it better around 30-40 yards. I'll keep messing with it.

Posted: 2/10/2018 11:39:56 PM EDT

[#13]

Just noticed you’re in TX. What part? Might could bring it over and I could help. If your interested

Posted: 2/10/2018 11:40:46 PM EDT

[#14]

If you do, you can stay and hunt with us if you want

Posted: 2/11/2018 5:31:10 AM EDT

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If you are new to using thermal scopes at night there is a distinct learning curve to using them. Practice practice practice for about six months under all kinds of varying climate conditions. Pay attention to using it at specific known ranges at various times over and over again until you become more proficient with experience.

Posted: 2/11/2018 11:17:47 AM EDT

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I'm a bit south of Dallas. I'm new to these, sounds like they take a bit of working with.

Posted: 2/11/2018 10:21:05 PM EDT

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This.

Posted: 2/12/2018 3:14:43 AM EDT

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We’re 120 miles south of downtown dfw. We go out 3-4 nights a week . Welcome to come down and hunt. Will look at it. Maybe I can help you set it up . On off chance something wrong with it, I’ve got plenty of extra you can borrow for the night

Posted: 2/12/2018 4:17:10 AM EDT

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Sounds like a Portlandia skit.

Posted: 2/12/2018 10:16:42 PM EDT

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We’re 120 miles south of downtown dfw. We go out 3-4 nights a week . Welcome to come down and hunt. Will look at it. Maybe I can help you set it up . On off chance something wrong with it, I’ve got plenty of extra you can borrow for the night

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Hey, that would be great. Let me see what's going on this weekend and I'll message you. Thanks!

Posted: 2/12/2018 10:24:51 PM EDT

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We’re 120 miles south of downtown dfw. We go out 3-4 nights a week . Welcome to come down and hunt. Will look at it. Maybe I can help you set it up . On off chance something wrong with it, I’ve got plenty of extra you can borrow for the night

Hey, that would be great. Let me see what's going on this weekend and I'll message you. Thanks!

@Tmm1270 - looks like your inbox is full

Posted: 2/13/2018 8:56:10 AM EDT

[#22]

Sorry. Got it fixed. Give me a shout

Posted: 2/15/2018 8:51:23 AM EDT

[#23]

Played with mine for a short time last night. Crystal clear. Didn't change anything either. So far, am impressed.

Posted: 2/15/2018 2:36:05 PM EDT

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We’re 120 miles south of downtown dfw. We go out 3-4 nights a week . Welcome to come down and hunt. Will look at it. Maybe I can help you set it up . On off chance something wrong with it, I’ve got plenty of extra you can borrow for the night

Hey, that would be great. Let me see what's going on this weekend and I'll message you. Thanks!

@Tmm1270 - looks like your inbox is full

I’ll vouch for those guys. Good people and good fun to hunt with

Posted: 2/16/2018 12:34:42 AM EDT

[#25]

I've seen a noticeable improvement between very high humidity and lower humidity, so there is hope!

Posted: 2/16/2018 12:59:58 PM EDT

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That is normal with any thermal instrument.

Posted: 2/19/2018 10:23:31 AM EDT

[#27]

Law Enforcement sure is going to love the FLIR Breach kits!

Posted: 2/19/2018 1:43:31 PM EDT

[#28]

Introducing the FLIR Breach Thermal Monocular

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7LlA47nJu4

Posted: 2/19/2018 2:28:32 PM EDT

[#29]

FINAL TRB's are now complete on our TNVC web site for ordering under "New Products". (Thank you for the patience as we finalized the design).

I 'm really impressed on how the final version of the cradle turned out.

The cradle will fit nicely on any picatinny rail. The TRB's will be included included FREE with every TNVC/Night Goggles purchase of FLIR's PTS series of thermals. PTS233, 536, 736 and the PTQ136 (Breach)***

Posted: 2/21/2018 1:51:52 AM EDT

[#30]

Our battery cradle system also allows easy accessibility for the power button and recharging port without removing the battery itself from the cradle to perform these funtions.

Posted: 2/21/2018 2:58:57 PM EDT

[#31]

With our Breach units arriving today (they are now on our web site for ordering), we have been working with the entire line of PTS and PTQ systems. Hope you like the comparisons we did with all the upcoming PTS along with the PTQ136 Breach.

Correct pic, Chip accidentally used the PTS233 folder in the above pic in the PTQ column. Sorry for the confusion.

Posted: 2/21/2018 4:20:46 PM EDT

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With our Breach units arriving today (they are now on our web site for ordering), we have been working with the entire line of PTS and PTQ systems. Hope you like the comparisons we did with all the upcoming PTS along with the PTQ136 Breach.

https://www.ar15.com/media/mediaFiles/19096/FLIR_Thermal_Comparison-1-459710.jpg

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Nice comparison between fields of view. Why does the Breach's images have a reticle? Thought they removed that feature.

Posted: 2/21/2018 4:21:39 PM EDT

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All look pretty impressive! Can't wait to get it in my hands!!!!!!!

Posted: 2/21/2018 4:27:10 PM EDT

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With our Breach units arriving today (they are now on our web site for ordering), we have been working with the entire line of PTS and PTQ systems. Hope you like the comparisons we did with all the upcoming PTS along with the PTQ136 Breach.

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Nice comparison between fields of view. Why does the Breach's images have a reticle? Thought they removed that feature.

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Thank you, pic error. Just a ranging/pointing type reticle on our test unit.... Posted the updated production unit pic above, NO reticle. (Sorry) The new Breach does have a new built-in compass and inclinometer. More to come on those features.

Posted: 2/21/2018 4:45:37 PM EDT

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What are the current options for mounting the breach to a helmet? If I already have a PVS14 with a bayonet mount, is there mounting option that would interchange with this, or are there only proprietary mounts?

Posted: 2/21/2018 4:51:18 PM EDT

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We have dovetail and bayonet style adapters for the Breach we will be offering as well that will fit Wilcox G24's and standard Bayonet style helmet mounts (G11, etc). Those will be on the web site shortly.

Posted: 2/21/2018 7:01:37 PM EDT

[#37]

Got shipping notification from TNVC! Come on Friday!!!!

Posted: 2/21/2018 7:01:53 PM EDT

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1/2 Dozen Breach units arrived. 1 left and next batch due in a couple of weeks we're told. A few pics of the simple helmet mount solutions for folks who want to roll that way. Wilcox dual mounts and our newest RQE solutions will cost ya $800+ to play with duals of NV and thermal but they will NOT fuse like you think...More on that later. For now enjoy the newest pics and I can try to answer any Breach questions. I am pretty stoked these FINALLY released, been waiting awhile since the original pics on Pg. 1. Resolution still looks spot on like the units I worked with earlier in the year. This unit will be the lightest hand held spotter out there and also a great tool not only for the hunter but the Rural LEO's tool box.

Posted: 2/21/2018 7:19:56 PM EDT

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1/2 Dozen Breach units arrived. 1 left and next batch due in a couple of weeks we're told. A few pics of the simple helmet mount solutions for folks who want to roll that way. Wilcox dual mounts and our newest RQE solutions will cost ya $800+ to play with duals of NV and thermal but they will NOT fuse like you think...More on that later. For now enjoy the newest pics and I can try to answer any Breach questions. I am pretty stoked these FINALLY released, been waiting awhile since the original pics on Pg. 1. Resolution still looks spot on like the units I worked with earlier in the year. This unit will be the lightest hand held spotter out there and also a great tool not only for the hunter but the Rural LEO's tool box.

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Is the Breach waterproof or water resistant? Don't see anything in the specs on your site.

Posted: 2/21/2018 7:19:57 PM EDT

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I'm not asking for fusion. What I would like to know is if it's feasible to run a PTQ136 on the right-eye side of my helmet, with the PVS-14 on my left. I want to walk around with only the PVS-14 most of the night. When I get to a clearing and need to scan a field or pursue a warm object, I want to pop the thermal down over my right eye.

Can this be accomplished? What hardware is needed?

Posted: 2/21/2018 7:25:37 PM EDT

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One left? Like one left to order or one that you guys will be playing with.

I’d be surprised if there was one actually available.

Posted: 2/21/2018 7:59:01 PM EDT

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Correct, Jaimie told me it sold about the time you wrote this.

We have ordered in some pretty large QTY's and we shouldbe getting these in somewhat regular intervals.

Posted: 2/21/2018 8:17:14 PM EDT

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I have a Wilcox g24...what's the quickest way for me to get this head mounted? Is there a cheaper arm option to get from the rail/mount on the breach to the dovetail on the Wilcox.

Edit: nevermind, I see you said you will have options up shortly...sounds like there will be option for Wilcox dovetail, nice.

Posted: 2/21/2018 9:08:22 PM EDT

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Armasight has a dovetail (Wilcox style) to mum dovetail arm for just over $100 shipped. I believe that is what is in the TNVC picture above. I just bought one for an older Q14.

Here you goswing arm

Posted: 2/21/2018 9:16:39 PM EDT

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I have a Wilcox g24...what's the quickest way for me to get this head mounted? Is there a cheaper arm option to get from the rail/mount on the breach to the dovetail on the Wilcox.

Edit: nevermind, I see you said you will have options up shortly...sounds like there will be option for Wilcox dovetail, nice.

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Yes, Wilcox Dovetail for around $85 bones (new version with better Dovetail fit, not the older version) and their Bayonet Style , but still testing this one...

Edit, we could have shipped this new dovetail mount with your Breach as we have plenty of these dovetail mounts in stock. Give Jaimie a call tomorrow if you need it even though it's not on the site yet.