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Posted: 7/13/2017 3:52:12 PM EDT
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I use my sentinels so often that I can't justify taking out the batteries. I'm probably out with 'em every night, along with my SBR with a dbal. So the batteries stay in those guys.
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Posted: 7/13/2017 4:56:17 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
[#2]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mhbaker81:
You are in the same boat as me. Leave them in. Just ensure they are lithium batteries. You could also do what I do, and have spares in a grip core, if you are willing to make that investment. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mhbaker81:
Originally Posted By 871JZ:
Originally Posted By awptickes:
Originally Posted By lilMAC25:
Originally Posted By 871JZ:
Still curious if anybody removes their DBAL battery when not in use or if they leave them in. Is it just because the device will drain the battery quickly, or is it because it may cause some kind of damage to the DBAL? I could care less how often I need to replace the battery, I just don't want it to damage it in some way if I do end up leaving it installed 24/7. BTW, I use nothing but Streamlight or Surefire branded lithium CR123 batteries. Only exception is I did install the Rayovac that was supplied with the unit. It seems unlikely that Steiner says to remove the battery when not in use because they're worried it could damage the device, but anything's possible, I guess. I don't remove the batteries from any of my weapon mounted devices when I'm not using them. Trijicon's, Aimpoint's, Surefire's, etc., all have batteries in them at all times and I've never seen this cause any problems or damage, except in rare instances where I've seen guys that used el cheapo Chinese batteries that overheated and exploded or leaked and caused corrosion or some odd circumstance like that. I can't imagine that would be an issue when using high quality batteries like the Streamlight's/Surefire's that I use. I should contact LDI and inquire about their reasoning behind this recommendation, but I have a feeling I'll end up with some kind of generic response. Anyone else with further input please chime in. |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 9:05:45 AM EDT
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Conversely:
I accidentally left the DBAL on my routine-use carbine, and the battery was dead when I went to use it. Had I removed the battery, it would have just been a mistake. Not a $1.25 mistake. |
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Posted: 7/14/2017 6:26:46 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 871JZ:
It seems unlikely that Steiner says to remove the battery when not in use because they're worried it could damage...  2017-07-14 18.23.14 by ,
 2017-07-14 18.23.49 by ,
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Posted: 7/15/2017 11:02:14 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By awptickes:
Conversely: I accidentally left the DBAL on my routine-use carbine, and the battery was dead when I went to use it. Had I removed the battery, it would have just been a mistake. Not a $1.25 mistake. |
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Posted: 7/15/2017 11:07:48 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 871JZ:
True, but again, I'm not really concerned with battery life. The only thing that would have me removing and reinstalling the battery each time would be the possibility of some type of damage to the device from leaving it installed. I buy 123's in bulk, so lifespan is pretty much a non-consideration for me. |
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Posted: 7/15/2017 11:09:20 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iwouldntknow:
Hope you keep spares on you, or you'll be laserless when your battery goes dead when you need it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By iwouldntknow:
Originally Posted By 871JZ:
True, but again, I'm not really concerned with battery life. The only thing that would have me removing and reinstalling the battery each time would be the possibility of some type of damage to the device from leaving it installed. I buy 123's in bulk, so lifespan is pretty much a non-consideration for me. 
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Posted: 7/15/2017 11:11:56 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FiveToOne:
I always figured this was the case, a cover-your-ass type statement in all product manuals/warranties. https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4302/35925850745_1ce50b7153_h.jpg2017-07-14 18.23.14 by , https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4303/35794027491_0660d9c9bc_h.jpg2017-07-14 18.23.49 by , Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FiveToOne:
Originally Posted By 871JZ:
It seems unlikely that Steiner says to remove the battery when not in use because they're worried it could damage... https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4302/35925850745_1ce50b7153_h.jpg2017-07-14 18.23.14 by , https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4303/35794027491_0660d9c9bc_h.jpg2017-07-14 18.23.49 by , |
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Posted: 7/15/2017 11:15:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 871JZ:
Of course I do. Why wouldn't I? Even have some spare spares. |
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Posted: 7/15/2017 11:51:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 871JZ:
True, but again, I'm not really concerned with battery life. The only thing that would have me removing and reinstalling the battery with each use would be the possibility of some type of damage to the device from leaving it installed. I buy 123's in bulk and at cost, so lifespan is pretty much a non-consideration for me. Even at an extreme of going through one or two batteries a month really isn't anything to mention considering they're less than $1/per. They say it because of the battery drain issue. |
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Posted: 7/15/2017 12:40:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 871JZ:
I ordered a DBAL i2 last Friday from DSG since they had them on sale for $705 shipped. |
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Posted: 7/15/2017 3:39:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FullAutoHound:
Obviously damage could occur because even lithiums can "leak" but it really rare. They say it because of the battery drain issue. |
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Posted: 7/15/2017 3:42:27 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eodinert:
I fent on that deal too. I even got the leaf sight. It would seem I'm a follower. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By eodinert:
Originally Posted By 871JZ:
I ordered a DBAL i2 last Friday from DSG since they had them on sale for $705 shipped. 
Also ordered the LEAF sight at the same time. Ordered both last Friday around dinner time and had them both delivered on Wednesday morning. I'm digging both pieces so far. The i2 really has a ridiculously impressive range on the green visible laser, especially on the high setting. The furthest I can see in a straight line from my front porch is about 3/8 of a mile and that's just over the advertised visible range of 750 meters or 2,461 feet. The i2 will spit it's beam that distance with no problem, so I know it'll reach 1/2 mile. One of these nights when its pitch black out I'll take it somewhere that I can see much further and find it's maximum range. Its really impressive. |
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Posted: 7/16/2017 2:03:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FullAutoHound:
Obviously damage could occur because even lithiums can "leak" but it really rare. They say it because of the battery drain issue. |
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Posted: 7/16/2017 10:39:47 AM EDT
[Last Edit: DallasLooterShooter]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By awptickes:
Conversely: I accidentally left the DBAL on my routine-use carbine, and the battery was dead when I went to use it. Had I removed the battery, it would have just been a mistake. Not a $1.25 mistake. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 10:05:59 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DallasLooterShooter:
You don't have to remove the battery, just turn the rotating switch to "off". The DBAL will drain the battery if left in any other switch position. I've experienced this, as have a number of other users. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By DallasLooterShooter:
Originally Posted By awptickes:
Conversely: I accidentally left the DBAL on my routine-use carbine, and the battery was dead when I went to use it. Had I removed the battery, it would have just been a mistake. Not a $1.25 mistake. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 10:31:06 AM EDT
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I'm just glad my Crimson Trace laser grips don't have this problem;)
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Posted: 7/17/2017 10:34:38 AM EDT
[#18]
 Night Vision El Presidente. Shooting the El Prez drill under Nods with my B.E. Meyers MAWL in Slow-mo. |
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Posted: 7/17/2017 11:24:40 AM EDT
[Last Edit: lilMAC25]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNVC_Sam:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxL1_60pgOo
Shooting the El Prez drill under Nods with my B.E. Meyers MAWL in Slow-mo.
Me with the envies! 
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Posted: 7/17/2017 12:08:16 PM EDT
[#20]
HK 556 SBR DBAL-I2
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Posted: 7/20/2017 9:29:42 PM EDT
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Posted: 7/21/2017 9:54:07 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmjerrywest44:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4295/35921915451_736b81befd_k.jpgDBAL D2 by J M, on Flickr |
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Posted: 7/21/2017 6:50:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By dmjerrywest44:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4295/35921915451_736b81befd_k.jpgDBAL D2 by J M, on Flickr 
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Posted: 7/22/2017 1:06:52 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/4/2017 4:41:05 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/4/2017 9:47:52 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OperatorX]
[#26]
ATPIAL-C on LWRC 11.5 inch carbine.
This set-up really works well for my needs. |
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Posted: 8/4/2017 10:19:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OperatorX:
ATPIAL-C on LWRC 11.5 inch carbine. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/358471/image-271914.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/358471/image-271915.jpg This set-up really works well for my needs. 
NICE!! 
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Posted: 8/4/2017 10:56:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNVC:
Just popped in to say GO CUBS!!
NICE!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/TAPS_TAN_zpsp7o52hua.jpg Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TNVC:
Originally Posted By OperatorX:
ATPIAL-C on LWRC 11.5 inch carbine. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/358471/image-271914.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/358471/image-271915.jpg This set-up really works well for my needs.
NICE!! http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/Clutch99/TAPS_TAN_zpsp7o52hua.jpg |
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Posted: 8/5/2017 1:30:11 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OperatorX:
ATPIAL-C on LWRC 11.5 inch carbine. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/358471/2017-08-04_23-32-28_221-272080.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/358471/image-271914.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/358471/image-271915.jpg This set-up really works well for my needs. |
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Posted: 8/9/2017 10:37:21 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/18/2017 9:56:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
[#31]
^^^^Diggin' the FDE TAPS.
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Posted: 8/18/2017 10:27:50 PM EDT
[#32]
Although not currently weapon mounted, I thought this (B.E. Meyers IZLID 200p) might be appreciated in this thread.
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Posted: 8/20/2017 4:06:26 PM EDT
[#33]
 I thought that is classified as a lightsaber by itself and no need to be weapon mounted
by memberonly |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 4:44:48 PM EDT
[#34]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Smooth_Oper8or:
Although not currently weapon mounted, I thought this (B.E. Meyers IZLID 200p) might be appreciated in this thread. http://i.imgur.com/B23Cscm.jpg |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 4:57:25 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
[#35]
Replaced the Surefire SR07 and Steiner tape switch with the SR-D-IT switch.
Much better having control of both light and laser with one switch versus two individual switches or one switch for the light and manually operating the DBAL via the push button on top. Also cleaned the front of the gun up some by removing the front MBUS Pro and using the LEAF sight mounted on the i2. Also removes a negligible amount of weight off the front. Still need to get out and zero the DBAL. 
Although, I really like the SR-D-IT, I miss having a constant on option for the light. This gun is used around my place at night and constant on was nice for searching and when navigating through wooded areas. I'm considering trying out a TAPS switch. I believe the PRO model is programmable for constant/momentary light functions. |
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Posted: 8/20/2017 5:04:59 PM EDT
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MAWL-C on KAC-15
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Posted: 8/22/2017 6:39:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Couch-Commando]
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Posted: 8/22/2017 6:46:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Couch-Commando:
Finally got a real job. Decided to upgrade my SBR.
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/74831/sbr_done_small-287736.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/74831/20170822_181704-287733.JPG |
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Posted: 8/22/2017 6:50:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 871JZ]
[#39]
If anyone's looking for a deal on a DBAL I2 or D2, I just got another email from DSG Arms. They're on sale again.
$699 for the tan I2 with green visible laser, and $999 for the black D2 with green visible laser. Both are free shipping, too. Smoking deal on a new piece. I just bought an I2 about a month or so ago through them for the same price. 
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Posted: 8/28/2017 9:51:35 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/29/2017 11:13:44 AM EDT
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Posted: 8/29/2017 3:29:33 PM EDT
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Posted: 8/29/2017 9:12:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TannerB:
https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4428/36711365622_7a5a1538ef_z.jpg20170815_204222-01 by T B, on Flickr https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4393/36882303515_0cf9cd34a9_z.jpg20170815_204416-01 by T B, on Flickr |
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Posted: 8/29/2017 11:56:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: OperatorX]
[#44]
Quote HistoryTell us about the ladder your aimpoint is mounted on.
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Posted: 8/30/2017 12:18:31 AM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OperatorX:
Tell us about the ladder your aimpoint is mounted on. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By OperatorX:
Originally Posted By emtothedee:
https://vgy.me/vACLOb.jpeghttps://vgy.me/vACLOb.jpeghttps://vgy.me/vACLOb.jpeg @OperatorX |
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Posted: 8/30/2017 12:23:09 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote HistoryOriginally Posted By fivepointoh:
Originally Posted By OperatorX:
Originally Posted By emtothedee:
https://vgy.me/vACLOb.jpeghttps://vgy.me/vACLOb.jpeghttps://vgy.me/vACLOb.jpeg @OperatorX Would like to hear reports on the application from use in the field. |
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Posted: 8/30/2017 11:14:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By emtothedee:
https://vgy.me/vACLOb.jpeg
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Posted: 8/30/2017 11:27:51 AM EDT
[#48]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 871JZ:
I can't imagine trying to use this mount without NODS. It's tall as hell. Should get a nice chin weld. |
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Posted: 9/1/2017 3:02:25 PM EDT
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Nothing special, just a lasermax but I'm really liking how handy this setup is
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Posted: 9/1/2017 3:59:40 PM EDT
[#50]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 871JZ:
If anyone's looking for a deal on a DBAL I2 or D2, I just got another email from DSG Arms. They're on sale again. $699 for the tan I2 with green visible laser, and $999 for the black D2 with green visible laser. Both are free shipping, too. Smoking deal on a new piece. I just bought an I2 about a month or so ago through them for the same price. https://s2.postimg.org/imhklvy3t/Screenshot_20170822-184939.png |
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