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Link Posted: 11/3/2018 10:02:16 AM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/3/2018 11:05:37 AM EDT
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You could use passport photo booth app, take the pic and save it, then upload it. Lots of people just take selfies.
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Ah of course there’s an app thanks!
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 11:48:26 AM EDT
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As to not start a new thread I'll ask this here. I just logged on and the window on the left (MY FORMS) under that it showed info about my form (Draft & Submitted/in progress). Now it just says no saved forms. Anyone seen this?
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 12:31:47 PM EDT
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As to not start a new thread I'll ask this here. I just logged on and the window on the left (MY FORMS) under that it showed info about my form (Draft & Submitted/in progress). Now it just says no saved forms. Anyone seen this?
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Yep.....exact same thing here.....I've tried 3 times to get a F1 done.......it doesn't save for some reason.....

Will try again tomorrow.....

ETA: Working fine now......
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 12:45:30 PM EDT
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Site is down all together now.
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 12:58:13 PM EDT
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For anyone tracking the control #'s

SUBMITTED/IN PROCESS

Permit/Control No: 20192371X
Your Reference No:
Submission Date: 2018-10-28-04:00
Form ID: ATF Form 1 (5320.1) - Application to Make and Register a Firearm
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 6:59:33 PM EDT
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Anyone cancel their paper form 1 and submit an eform yet? I submitted in mid Sept.  but I think I will cancel the paper application and send in an eform.  Hopefully it will be faster.

However since the LEO was already was notified do I need to notify them again?

One issue that could delay my eform is I would like to SBR a CZ 512 and its not on the drop down list so  my copy of the eform to the LEO will say "Draft" and not Submitted as the ATF needs to do more research.
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 8:52:32 PM EDT
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Anyone cancel their paper form 1 and submit an eform yet? I submitted in mid Sept.  but I think I will cancel the paper application and send in an eform.  Hopefully it will be faster.

However since the LEO was already was notified do I need to notify them again?

One issue that could delay my eform is I would like to SBR a CZ 512 and its not on the drop down list so  my copy of the eform to the LEO will say "Draft" and not Submitted as the ATF needs to do more research.
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Idk but I submitted an eform and have yet to cancel my paper form for the same gun.

I assumed I had about 2 more months on the paper form so eform would come through quicker and get approved before the paper one even comes across their desk.

Anyone else done this?
Link Posted: 11/4/2018 9:57:21 PM EDT
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Idk but I submitted an eform and have yet to cancel my paper form for the same gun.

I assumed I had about 2 more months on the paper form so eform would come through quicker and get approved before the paper one even comes across their desk.

Anyone else done this?
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Ok I did it also. I sent two in. I have  two paper forms 1s pending on 9/15. Both eforms were accepted but I only got one control number. The application for the CZ 512 status is “ pending research”  with no control number and the PDF file to the LEO has “Draft” printed across it. I will send both to my LEO again even if I notified them last September . I will also send in the fingerprints next wk. In a few wks I will cancel the paper form 1s. I hope this does not end up canceling both the paper and eforms.

I also hope the pending research status doesn’t delay things too much.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 1:43:28 PM EDT
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Gents,
Does anyone know if I'm GTG to submit my Prints when my PDF File / cover letter does Not show a control number? There is a bar code. I filed two F1's for SBR's using my NFA Trust. Both of the submissions had the "pending research" on the weapon type. Anyone else have this issue? My Application that I printed out also is labeled "Draft" across each page.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 3:04:22 PM EDT
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Gents,
Does anyone know if I'm GTG to submit my Prints when my PDF File / cover letter does Not show a control number? There is a bar code. I filed two F1's for SBR's using my NFA Trust. Both of the submissions had the "pending research" on the weapon type. Anyone else have this issue? My Application that I printed out also is labeled "Draft" across each page.
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Sometimes a fellow can just figure this stuff out ......
I logged into my eForms account and actually "asked the Expert". I received an extremely fast response, and here it is.

"Good Afternoon,

I am assuming you landed in pending research status. If so, do not send them until you get a new cover letter emailed to you once we release you from pending research.

Your new email will say that you are in “Submitted/In Process” status and a new cover letter will be attached."

Heather N. Huff
Firearms and Explosives Services Specialist
NFA Division- Government Support Branch
(304) 616-4500 NFAD Main Line
Martinsburg, WV
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 4:18:07 PM EDT
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Go back to your forms and figure out why it is showing Pending/Research.  I did and found that the Yes/No questions that I answered didn't get saved.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 4:42:28 PM EDT
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I also got an email from Heather. She stated not to send fingerprints until research was completed.

I got a 2nd cover letter today with a control number and barcode and status changed to submitted.

So if you don’t get a control number and get a “pending research”  status you will need to wait until you get a second email with a control number before sending in the fingerprints.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 4:54:23 PM EDT
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This is from my 10/22 approval.

Barrel finally showed up. Dang USPS.

Attachment Attached File

Attachment Attached File
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 5:37:10 PM EDT
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Go back to your forms and figure out why it is showing Pending/Research.  I did and found that the Yes/No questions that I answered didn't get saved.
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I’ll do this. Were you able to edit the form???

edit.....Man now that I think about it my draft F1 was blank on those ?’s. I’m using a Mac as my desktop. I wonder if that’s the issue with their system?
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 5:52:11 PM EDT
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I was able to edit the form.  After fixing the Yes/No questions, I hit the next button for each following page until it got to the last.  Checking things didn't get changed along the way.  At the end, it told me it didn't find any errors and I hit submit application again.

I was using Win 10 and had that issue, so who knows.  After figuring out I could put my Win 7 machine in Compatibility Mode to get the site to load correctly, I made corrections on that computer.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 8:08:13 PM EDT
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I have the FD-258 fingerprint cards. Do I need to have an LEO do the fingerprinting or can I do it myself?

Thanks.
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 8:15:06 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/5/2018 8:33:30 PM EDT
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I have the FD-258 fingerprint cards. Do I need to have an LEO do the fingerprinting or can I do it myself?

Thanks.
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DIY
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 10:08:55 PM EDT
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Just had another approval today from 10/22 submission
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 10:13:13 PM EDT
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Where are we ordering the cards from?

also, what part is supposed to be sent to sheriff?
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 10:54:58 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/5/2018 10:56:56 PM EDT
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Order FP cards here

Send the CLEO Copy of the F1/F4/RPQ to the CLEO.
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Thats the website i was looking for, thank you!

so, print off the the form from the email and only send in the pages marked "CLEO COPY"?
Link Posted: 11/5/2018 11:05:44 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/6/2018 8:01:34 AM EDT
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Thats the website i was looking for, thank you!

so, print off the the form from the email and only send in the pages marked "CLEO COPY"?
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Yep, that's correct.
Link Posted: 11/6/2018 9:36:39 AM EDT
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I read that you have to submit the cover sheet and FP cards within 10 days? Anyone know if it’s alright to submit them beyond that? Or should I just submit another eform 1?
Link Posted: 11/6/2018 2:48:18 PM EDT
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What would keep you from getting the prints done?  If you can't get them within the 10 days, I wouldn't submit the form.
Link Posted: 11/6/2018 2:56:37 PM EDT
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What would keep you from getting the prints done?  If you can't get them within the 10 days, I wouldn't submit the form.
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I submitted the form waiting on some cards and it wasn’t until I read the cover sheet that I realized there was a time limit.
Link Posted: 11/6/2018 4:24:35 PM EDT
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I don't know what would happen, but I'd call around and see if you can find someone with the cards.  Ie, sheriff, gun stores or postal employees (I hear they still have to go through the BGC for their government issued Uzis).
Link Posted: 11/6/2018 4:27:16 PM EDT
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I’ll probably do that. I also used the ask the expert to send a message and see what they want me to do.
Link Posted: 11/6/2018 5:15:48 PM EDT
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Those of you that have gotten approved, How did you find out first? Can you tell by looking at your submission on the E-file site or get an email or actually get your stamp in the mail?
Link Posted: 11/6/2018 5:17:50 PM EDT
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Those of you that have gotten approved, How did you find out first? Can you tell by looking at your submission on the E-file site or get an email or actually get your stamp in the mail?
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You get an email from the atf saying you were approved.
Link Posted: 11/6/2018 5:20:10 PM EDT
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Those of you that have gotten approved, How did you find out first? Can you tell by looking at your submission on the E-file site or get an email or actually get your stamp in the mail?
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Email. Shows up as soon as it’s approved.
Link Posted: 11/6/2018 5:21:20 PM EDT
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You get an email from the atf saying you were approved.
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Thanks
Link Posted: 11/6/2018 5:29:41 PM EDT
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I’ll probably do that. I also used the ask the expert to send a message and see what they want me to do.
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Ms Bivens replied and said to mail them whenever I can.
Link Posted: 11/6/2018 6:25:44 PM EDT
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 That's good to know.
Link Posted: 11/6/2018 6:29:45 PM EDT
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So are people able to get there form 1's approved and call about their form 4 submitted months ago and get faster approvals? or is that a myth?
Link Posted: 11/6/2018 7:04:15 PM EDT
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So are people able to get there form 1's approved and call about their form 4 submitted months ago and get faster approvals? or is that a myth?
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oooo... I'm in for the response on this. I have 5 Form 4's currently sitting in purgatory, and the e-forms are just rolling in. I'd love to speed things up a bit on my cans.
Link Posted: 11/6/2018 8:15:46 PM EDT
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Link Posted: 11/7/2018 9:51:31 AM EDT
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And the approved form (with a digital stamp) is attached to the email. Nothing is coming in the mail. You won't get your actual $200 stamp like you do on a paper form.
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And the approved form (with a digital stamp) is attached to the email. Nothing is coming in the mail. You won't get your actual $200 stamp like you do on a paper form.
Just got my email.

10\28\18 to 11\7\18
10 days.
Link Posted: 11/7/2018 9:04:04 PM EDT
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Ugh it says the site is down this evening....

I need to do one while they are so quick. MP5k or PS90? Help me decide!!
Link Posted: 11/7/2018 10:19:06 PM EDT
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Ugh it says the site is down this evening....

I need to do one while they are so quick. MP5k or PS90? Help me decide!!
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MP5k and they’re down every Wed for maintenance.
Link Posted: 11/8/2018 1:01:56 AM EDT
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I submitted the form waiting on some cards and it wasn’t until I read the cover sheet that I realized there was a time limit.
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You could just get some cards off amazon prime.  Then no worries.
Link Posted: 11/8/2018 9:35:59 PM EDT
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MP5k and they’re down every Wed for maintenance.
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Ugh it says the site is down this evening....

I need to do one while they are so quick. MP5k or PS90? Help me decide!!
MP5k and they’re down every Wed for maintenance.
Thanks much. I see they are back online this evening. Though I'm having trouble with my old login/password and the fact that I don't have my old email address anymore... Grrrr And I'm in agreement in the MP5k; way easier than sending a barrel off to get fixed up for the PS90.
Link Posted: 11/13/2018 4:20:24 PM EDT
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I’m interested in buying a factory SBR, should I wait for efile form 4 to become available? Or just paper file now?
Link Posted: 11/13/2018 4:32:13 PM EDT
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I’m interested in buying a factory SBR, should I wait for efile form 4 to become available? Or just paper file now?
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Never wait.

If somehow eForm 4s come online next week, you can cancel and resubmit.
Link Posted: 11/14/2018 12:54:04 AM EDT
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I’m interested in buying a factory SBR, should I wait for efile form 4 to become available? Or just paper file now?
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The site can barely handle the newly added F1's.  I don't see F4's getting added anytime soon.
Link Posted: 11/14/2018 5:46:29 AM EDT
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The site can barely handle the newly added F1's.  I don't see F4's getting added anytime soon.
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I’m interested in buying a factory SBR, should I wait for efile form 4 to become available? Or just paper file now?
The site can barely handle the newly added F1's.  I don't see F4's getting added anytime soon.
Adding Form 4’s would probably overwhelm it as the buying frenzy hit. Already started to happen with Form 1s.  Judging by the change in control numbers posted in the GD thread, it looked like they were getting over 1k per day. Not enough to bring the system down, but that’s a lot of Form 1s.

Problem is, ATF must have their server running off an ancient laptop or something. Every time I’ve tried using the system it’s ridiculously slow.  I don’t imagine that would get any better once Form 4s are added back in.
Link Posted: 11/14/2018 8:16:34 AM EDT
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And you're assuming the list of control numbers is unique to F1s (and I don't know if they are or not). But there are a lot of other forms that have been available in EForms for awhile, and if the CN is simply assigned in numerical order for all forms, that drastically changes the estimate of F1s that have been submitted.
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Yep thought we covered this already. Maybe it was in the other thread. But your right pretty sure all of the eforms are using the same control numbers. Its not F1 specific.
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