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Posted: 10/30/2018 2:46:06 PM EDT
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The site might be down, but the ATF agents appear to be hard at work. I wonder if they are shutting it down on purpose to slow down the deluge of submissions and stay caught up. I'm reading on FB that the eform page is accessible at 4am, but later in the morning, becomes inaccessible. huh.
In any case, my 3 forms that were submitted 10/19 and prints were received 10/26 got approved about an hour ago. That's incredibly impressive. Now I just need to source everything to make the SBRs since I didn't have my typical 9-12 months to get everything together.  Come on Black Friday!
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Posted: 10/30/2018 5:12:03 PM EDT
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When 41F happened I honestly never thought eForms 1 would ever be back. Figured it was dead permanently. This is definitely good news. Hopefully they can get 5320.20 and F4 up too.
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Posted: 10/30/2018 9:11:17 PM EDT
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Yep. Down since yesterday. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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DAMNIT! Can't get to the eforms, keeps giving me a too many redirects error. 
Hopefully I'll be like the couple here that have gotten theirs approved in just a few weeks. |
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Posted: 10/30/2018 9:54:05 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: Did a F1 on Sunday, Glad I was able to get it in
Hopefully I'll be like the couple here that have gotten theirs approved in just a few weeks. |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 7:08:17 PM EDT
[#5]
Website is back up now. Just submitted my form 1
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Posted: 10/31/2018 7:24:36 PM EDT
[#6]
Wanting to Form1 another silencer. What do I put in for Manufacturer Name? It keeps wanting to look for a list of real companies.
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Posted: 10/31/2018 7:48:01 PM EDT
[#7]
Was able to register and submit a form 1 tonight.
Rolled my own prints and they turned out pretty damn good. I'll be mailing them tomorrow. |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 7:54:50 PM EDT
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Submitted mine this evening, got the cover letter within minutes.
I'm glad to see E-Forms back up and running... this will lead to some more SBR's for me...
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Posted: 10/31/2018 8:48:11 PM EDT
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Wanting to Form1 another silencer. What do I put in for Manufacturer Name? It keeps wanting to look for a list of real companies. (Same goes for 80% lower, AK flats, etc...anytime you're actually making a new firearm instead of modifying an existing firearm) |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 8:55:00 PM EDT
[#10]
Got it figured out. Thanks. I am guessing for model to put N/A? That is what I put on my paper form. I did get it submitted with a warning about the model. We'll see.
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Posted: 10/31/2018 9:31:39 PM EDT
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Submitted mine this evening, got the cover letter within minutes. I'm glad to see E-Forms back up and running... this will lead to some more SBR's for me... I just submitted two form 1's via trust. Where was I supposed to attach fingerprints? |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 10:41:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What do you mean by cover letter? I just submitted two form 1's via trust. Where was I supposed to attach fingerprints? |
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Posted: 10/31/2018 11:38:27 PM EDT
[#13]
Got one in before Silencer Shop dumps a load in and crashes it.
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Posted: 11/1/2018 6:47:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What do you mean by cover letter? I just submitted two form 1's via trust. Where was I supposed to attach fingerprints? I don't think you can scan and upload fingerprint cards as an attachment like you do the trust and photo. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 8:02:39 AM EDT
[#15]
EForms down again.
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Posted: 11/1/2018 10:48:12 AM EDT
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When you submit the form 1 you will get an e-mail shortly after containing a PDF file that is a Fingerprint Card Submission Letter which has your application control number on it. You have 10 days to submit your actual print cards WITH the said letter. I don't think you can scan and upload fingerprint cards as an attachment like you do the trust and photo. Quote HistoryQuoted:
Quoted: What do you mean by cover letter? I just submitted two form 1's via trust. Where was I supposed to attach fingerprints? I don't think you can scan and upload fingerprint cards as an attachment like you do the trust and photo. I submitted two yesterday and received the receipt email and the other email diplaying the control number but not in pdf format... Was there a generic cover letter thats different? |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 11:07:49 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What did the cover letter consist of... I submitted two yesterday and received the receipt email and the other email diplaying the control number but not in pdf format... Was there a generic cover letter thats different? Also has your items serial number, control number, submitted date, name and phone number listed below. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 11:17:09 AM EDT
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Apparently a bunch of individuals are not receiving the cover letters through email...I was advised by ATF to select the “ask a question” tab on EForm website and advise that I did not receive the letter. In case anyone here has the same issue...
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Posted: 11/1/2018 1:00:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: What did the cover letter consist of... I submitted two yesterday and received the receipt email and the other email diplaying the control number but not in pdf format... Was there a generic cover letter thats different? |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 1:15:15 PM EDT
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Apparently a bunch of individuals are not receiving the cover letters through email...I was advised by ATF to select the "ask a question" tab on EForm website and advise that I did not receive the letter. In case anyone here has the same issue... |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 2:30:02 PM EDT
[#21]
this is pretty intriguing. Can I SBR a lower that was part of a complete rifle? and can anyone recommend a fingerprint kit? would be cool if I could leverage the prints that SS already has.
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Posted: 11/1/2018 2:34:44 PM EDT
[#22]
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this is pretty intriguing. Can I SBR a lower that was part of a complete rifle? and can anyone recommend a fingerprint kit? would be cool if I could leverage the prints that SS already has. And you can pay SS $25 to print your prints on a finger print card and mail them to you. Just bear in mind that the ATF must receive the prints in 10 days after submitting the application. So if you are going to use SS for the prints do them first, then file the application later when the prints arrive. It would be much easier to just roll your own. You can get free finger print cards from the ATF . |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 3:02:19 PM EDT
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Everyone I've seen that didn't receive the cover letter just couldn't see it on their phone email app. Once they accessed their email via PC, the attachment was there all along. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Apparently a bunch of individuals are not receiving the cover letters through email...I was advised by ATF to select the "ask a question" tab on EForm website and advise that I did not receive the letter. In case anyone here has the same issue... This is not a problem for individuals in the real world where you have unlimited access to your email through a pc...for us in the hills though it created some confusion .
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Posted: 11/1/2018 3:02:44 PM EDT
[#24]
My cover letter came as a PDF attachment on the email. It showed up fine with Yahoo mail on a PC and Android phone.
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Posted: 11/1/2018 3:38:57 PM EDT
[#25]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes you can. And you can pay SS $25 to print your prints on a finger print card and mail them to you. Just bear in mind that the ATF must receive the prints in 10 days after submitting the application. So if you are going to use SS for the prints do them first, then file the application later when the prints arrive. It would be much easier to just roll your own. You can get free finger print cards from the ATF . |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 3:52:08 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuoted: So apparently they are in the original email but your right that you cant access the file through your phone or if you happen to forward the email to another account to get it to open...the email needs to be opened through your original email provider on a pc (as you say). This is not a problem for individuals in the real world where you have unlimited access to your email through a pc...for us in the hills though it created some confusion .You don't need to forward it or use a PC. Just open up Safari (or whatever browser you use) and log into webmail instead of using the Mail app. It's been the same way since EForms first started years ago. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 4:38:19 PM EDT
[#27]
I need to know: are these hyper fast approvals only trusts or are some individuals?
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Posted: 11/1/2018 4:52:13 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When you submit the form 1 you will get an e-mail shortly after containing a PDF file that is a Fingerprint Card Submission Letter which has your application control number on it. You have 10 days to submit your actual print cards WITH the said letter. I don't think you can scan and upload fingerprint cards as an attachment like you do the trust and photo. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 4:56:54 PM EDT
[#29]
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I need to know: are these hyper fast approvals only trusts or are some individuals? |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 5:41:09 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They are both. |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 5:41:48 PM EDT
[#31]
I was just about to build a pistol well I guess it’s time for me to finally do some nfa stuff
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Posted: 11/1/2018 7:22:54 PM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryQuoted: I got it, so I have 10 days to get it postmarked and in the mail correct? |
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Posted: 11/1/2018 8:40:07 PM EDT
[#33]
If anyone is getting cards from the ATF, get more than what you need now. Not only for extras if you make a mistake, but for further Form1s. While doing your Form1 further down the road and you use a couple, but still have some left, order more. Keep them on hand.
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Posted: 11/2/2018 11:02:35 AM EDT
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I hadn't realized the form asked for barrel length. is it weird if my OAL is more than 26 and does it matter who I put as CLEO?
The lower, bought as a rifle, currently has a 14.5 pinned but the idea would be to build with a 11.5 eventually. |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 11:22:11 AM EDT
[#35]
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I hadn't realized the form asked for barrel length. is it weird if my OAL is more than 26? The lower, bought as a rifle, currently has a 14.5 pinned but the idea would be to build with a 11.5 eventually. |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 11:27:23 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Best advice I have ever read/ heard when it comes to OAL is to just google and find a factory gun that you want to emulate and use that oal. |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 11:38:07 AM EDT
[#37]
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Thanks that's direction I was thinking. looks like SS is going to integrate next week. wonder what the cost will be since they already have my prints, etc. Are they offering something thru the eform system? |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 11:42:12 AM EDT
[#38]
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What are you talking about SS to integrate next week? Are they offering something thru the eform system? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Thanks that's direction I was thinking. looks like SS is going to integrate next week. wonder what the cost will be since they already have my prints, etc. Are they offering something thru the eform system? Basically you pay them to send your prints in for you instead of filling out the eform on the atf’s page you would do it through theirs and they mail your prints. They’ll just charge you a fee to do it. |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 11:51:54 AM EDT
[#39]
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I’ve heard talk that they will have the system setup so the eform 1s can be submitted through their system. Basically you pay them to send your prints in for you instead of filling out the eform on the atf’s page you would do it through theirs and they mail your prints. They’ll just charge you a fee to do it. |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 1:12:56 PM EDT
[#40]
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I hadn't realized the form asked for barrel length. is it weird if my OAL is more than 26 and does it matter who I put as CLEO? It absolutely matters who you put as CLEO. They have to be recognized as a CLEO over the address on your form. That being said, there are many people that fit that description...at the city, county and state level. |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 1:25:26 PM EDT
[#41]
Back in the game with another one.
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Posted: 11/2/2018 2:40:31 PM EDT
[#42]
Quote HistoryQuoted: They told me via email they'd be "integrating" next week. No idea what the cost would be but could be good to avoid the extra work of taking and mailing prints, if the cost is reasonable. I think they'd send you to a page/form to confirm personal info and fill out your lower info and handle the prints part. I ordered 2 small parts I need yesterday from brownells to finish out my dedicated 9mm SBR. going to build it out and then do a function test as a pistol then efile it. |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 3:03:28 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryQuoted: Yes you can. And you can pay SS $25 to print your prints on a finger print card and mail them to you. Just bear in mind that the ATF must receive the prints in 10 days after submitting the application. So if you are going to use SS for the prints do them first, then file the application later when the prints arrive. It would be much easier to just roll your own. You can get free finger print cards from the ATF . I just had them do it for a can at the kiosk a few weeks back. so my thought it I've been sitting on a stagecoach shotgun for like 4 years I've wanted to do this to. May as well Form 1 it while it's up and cut that puppy down to mad max. |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 3:06:23 PM EDT
[#44]
Quote HistoryQuoted: @swampfoxoutdoors where do you contact them to get your prints mailed? I just had them do it for a can at the kiosk a few weeks back. so my thought it I've been sitting on a stagecoach shotgun for like 4 years I've wanted to do this to. May as well Form 1 it while it's up and cut that puppy down to mad max. |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 4:01:59 PM EDT
[#45]
Quote HistoryQuoted: When I did mine I called them on the phone and they told me that they could print them off and send them to me. I opted to go to the local Sheriffs office and play there stupid little game to get them.
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Posted: 11/2/2018 4:04:13 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryQuoted: thanks, I'll call them on Monday. My whole goal is to do this without leaving my house. my first round of NFA took trips to the sheriff for sign off, a different place for prints, like 8 trips to the gun store, etc. This one is worth it to me if I can not drive anywhere. I actually did a high res scan of the ones I got at the Sheriffs office. May try printing them off on card stock. |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 4:05:15 PM EDT
[#47]
I received my cover letter but for the "attach fingerprints cards for responsible person below" it says Null Null? It shows my name as the submitter. Normal or did I mess up?
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Posted: 11/2/2018 4:06:44 PM EDT
[#48]
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I received my cover letter but for the "attach fingerprints cards for responsible person below" it says Null Null? It shows my name as the submitter. Normal or did I mess up? |
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Posted: 11/2/2018 5:15:47 PM EDT
[#49]
Quote HistoryQuoted: It should at least show your name. If you have other RPs it will show them as well. |
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Posted: 11/3/2018 9:29:33 AM EDT
[#50]
When doing the form is there guidance on doing the photo? Do you just use your phone kinda like the SS app?
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