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Posted: 4/10/2019 4:14:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: bluesx]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RLunyATL:
For realsies? It hasn't even been a month. People in this thread, on this page, are looking at 12-24 months. Update, approved 4-20-19 |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2019 4:58:24 PM EDT
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I emailed a state rep, who got me a privacy release form. I sent it back, and they forwarded it to a congressmans office who told me they would they would get me some results.
Everyone i emailed was quick to respond and the ones i talked to on the phone were happy to help me, so hopefully i get an approval soon. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/14/2019 6:40:07 PM EDT
[#3]
Good luck. They sure helped me.
I have a few more days before it'll be a month since my last efile and I'll sick them on the ATF again. |
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Posted: 4/14/2019 7:56:32 PM EDT
[Last Edit: aeroworksxp]
[#4]
I have been waiting 397 days since check cashed as of today. Still nothing. I contacted my rep on 2/8/19 and went through all the motions. All i got was "Your queued for an FBI check. I will notify you when it is approved." And after telling them that is not good enough because The wait is too damn long. I get a "We cannot skip you ahead in the line. That cannot be done. You just have to wait."
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Posted: 4/15/2019 11:08:23 AM EDT
[Last Edit: chase45]
[#5]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By aeroworksxp:
I have been waiting 397 days since check cashed as of today. Still nothing. I contacted my rep on 2/8/19 and went through all the motions. All i got was "Your queued for an FBI check. I will notify you when it is approved." And after telling them that is not good enough because The wait is too damn long. I get a "We cannot skip you ahead in the line. That cannot be done. You just have to wait." Still pending too Im just going to start calling every single day. Its getting really hard for me to hide my discontent with these guys when they give me the same excuse "muh gov shutdown, Got too many of muh $200 a pop forms to go through" "Okay well any idea for an eta?" "Nope muh gov shutdown soooo many forms at $200 a pop" Fuck em |
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Posted: 4/15/2019 1:56:20 PM EDT
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I was just informed that my 2 form 4s that were in "pending FBI" were finally approved.
406 days from first pending at ATF. |
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Posted: 4/15/2019 3:01:04 PM EDT
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Since it's happened on the last three forms in a row, I'm done with hoping that getting stuck in background was a one-time thing. I'll probably get a UPIN eventually, but in the short term, I do have a plan for my current F4.
Since eFiles go into background almost immediately, I'm planning on putting one in and hopefully timing it to be approved around the same time or a bit after my current F4 goes to "awaiting background check." That way, I can have a background check going on concurrently with waiting for the F4 to go into "awaiting background" status. If I time it right, I'll be able to skip most or all of the background wait on the F4 :D. Perhaps not the most elegant solution, but I need another F1 anyway, so I figure it's worth a shot. The tricky part will be making sure the eFile isn't approved too early. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/15/2019 4:49:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Muzap:
I was just informed that my 2 form 4s that were in "pending FBI" were finally approved. 406 days from first pending at ATF. |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2019 9:43:25 AM EDT
[Last Edit: JAMF]
[#9]
Just got an approval on one i submitted a month ago, hopefully i can get em to use that approvalfor the one ive been waiting on since halloween.
Edit: After making multiple calls today to the ATF, i got ahold of a woman named Jessica who looked into it and it looks like they got my approval back, just haven't processed it yet. Lightning fast results from my congress man, hell i just talked to em friday. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 4/16/2019 9:46:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Spooled]
[#10]
Just got my 10-26-18 e file approved, already emailed Jesse huff begging to clear my 12-6-18 and 2-6-19 forms using the same bgc. If those clear I'm calling and begging for my form 4 to LOL
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NC, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2019 7:02:10 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By krdt:
Since it's happened on the last three forms in a row, I'm done with hoping that getting stuck in background was a one-time thing. I'll probably get a UPIN eventually, but in the short term, I do have a plan for my current F4. Since eFiles go into background almost immediately, I'm planning on putting one in and hopefully timing it to be approved around the same time or a bit after my current F4 goes to "awaiting background check." That way, I can have a background check going on concurrently with waiting for the F4 to go into "awaiting background" status. If I time it right, I'll be able to skip most or all of the background wait on the F4 :D. Perhaps not the most elegant solution, but I need another F1 anyway, so I figure it's worth a shot. The tricky part will be making sure the eFile isn't approved too early. |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2019 3:35:32 PM EDT
[#12]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk:
Does having a UPIN speed up the process? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk:
Originally Posted By krdt:
Since it's happened on the last three forms in a row, I'm done with hoping that getting stuck in background was a one-time thing. I'll probably get a UPIN eventually, but in the short term, I do have a plan for my current F4. Since eFiles go into background almost immediately, I'm planning on putting one in and hopefully timing it to be approved around the same time or a bit after my current F4 goes to "awaiting background check." That way, I can have a background check going on concurrently with waiting for the F4 to go into "awaiting background" status. If I time it right, I'll be able to skip most or all of the background wait on the F4 :D. Perhaps not the most elegant solution, but I need another F1 anyway, so I figure it's worth a shot. The tricky part will be making sure the eFile isn't approved too early. |
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Posted: 4/17/2019 4:10:55 PM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk:
Does having a UPIN speed up the process? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SpyHawk:
Originally Posted By krdt:
Since it's happened on the last three forms in a row, I'm done with hoping that getting stuck in background was a one-time thing. I'll probably get a UPIN eventually, but in the short term, I do have a plan for my current F4. Since eFiles go into background almost immediately, I'm planning on putting one in and hopefully timing it to be approved around the same time or a bit after my current F4 goes to "awaiting background check." That way, I can have a background check going on concurrently with waiting for the F4 to go into "awaiting background" status. If I time it right, I'll be able to skip most or all of the background wait on the F4 :D. Perhaps not the most elegant solution, but I need another F1 anyway, so I figure it's worth a shot. The tricky part will be making sure the eFile isn't approved too early. In my case, I've found on standard Title I checks that if my dealer uses the computer system to run the check, it tends to result in an automatic delay. On the other hand, if he calls in, he's usually transferred to the next level "research" department and is able to get an approval within a few minutes. Pretty frustrating to imagine the reason I'm getting 4 months or more of extra wait time on NFA items is very likely due to what amounts to less than 3 minutes of extra "research." I actually added a cover sheet to my latest F4 requesting the examiner to run my NICS check via a phone call rather than the computer if at all possible, along with a short explanation. Doubtful it'll make a difference, but I figured it couldn't hurt to try. The wrench in the works is that many of those who get delayed on NFA backgrounds never get delayed on normal Title I checks; which doesn't seem to make sense. If there is some sort of process we're unaware of that triggers further research on a Title II check that isn't directly related to an official "delay," then I'm not sure a UPIN would be beneficial. Furthermore, I've heard of several cases where someone that regularly received delays went through the effort of getting a UPIN and still received a delay on their next check. Apparently, it isn't even guaranteed to work in the exact situation it should be most useful, heh. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2019 5:21:42 PM EDT
[Last Edit: number40Fan]
[#14]
Well, I just sent off a filled out VAF paper work and finger print cards to get a UPIN.
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Posted: 4/18/2019 2:58:19 AM EDT
[#15]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By number40Fan:
Well, I just sent off a filled out VAF paper work and finger print cards to get a UPIN. Funny story (not really). Last week I went to pick up a rifle and got denied on the PICS check. Filled out a challenge form and today received a letter from the PA State Police. Says that they determined I am not prohibited and to keep and show the letter when purchasing firearms from now on. WTF? |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/18/2019 8:18:00 AM EDT
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What good would that paper do you? Any sensible gun store owner would just run the NICS check and if you are denied, refuse the sale. Having that piece of paper wouldn't mean anything to me if I were the owner. In this era of people doing stupid things, I wouldn't want to be accused of selling a gun to someone because they had a piece of paper which could probably be replicated on a printer.
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Posted: 4/18/2019 8:25:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chase45:
Yup me too Still pending too Im just going to start calling every single day. Its getting really hard for me to hide my discontent with these guys when they give me the same excuse "muh gov shutdown, Got too many of muh $200 a pop forms to go through" "Okay well any idea for an eta?" "Nope muh gov shutdown soooo many forms at $200 a pop" Fuck em Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chase45:
Originally Posted By aeroworksxp:
I have been waiting 397 days since check cashed as of today. Still nothing. I contacted my rep on 2/8/19 and went through all the motions. All i got was "Your queued for an FBI check. I will notify you when it is approved." And after telling them that is not good enough because The wait is too damn long. I get a "We cannot skip you ahead in the line. That cannot be done. You just have to wait." Still pending too Im just going to start calling every single day. Its getting really hard for me to hide my discontent with these guys when they give me the same excuse "muh gov shutdown, Got too many of muh $200 a pop forms to go through" "Okay well any idea for an eta?" "Nope muh gov shutdown soooo many forms at $200 a pop" Fuck em  Also told me that there was no way to combine a September stamp with my 4/1/18 purchase. 
Smug is the perfect word for the guy I talked to. He enjoys delivering bad news. |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 8:28:19 AM EDT
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I'm sure they see this as a great way to punish Trump supporters by blaming it on the shut down that they blame Trump for.
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Posted: 4/18/2019 9:56:36 AM EDT
[#19]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Intune69:
Yep, I got the same canned response about “the shutdown.” Also told me that there was no way to combine a September stamp with my 4/1/18 purchase.
Smug is the perfect word for the guy I talked to. He enjoys delivering bad news. Beyond one chick Ive gotten a few times smug is a good word to describe them. My examiner seemed worse about it than the normal people just answering the calls too
What can you do though. |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 3:41:12 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By number40Fan: Congrats. Now, I hope it won't take two months for the stamps to arrive. |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 7:07:30 PM EDT
[#21]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Muzap:
Stamps arrived Monday. One week from approval. At least THAT happened without delays. |
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Posted: 4/18/2019 7:11:33 PM EDT
[#22]
sent form 4 yesterday and doing another next week. waiting sucks
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Posted: 4/19/2019 12:29:57 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Effenpig]
[#23]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By number40Fan:
What good would that paper do you? Any sensible gun store owner would just run the NICS check and if you are denied, refuse the sale. Having that piece of paper wouldn't mean anything to me if I were the owner. In this era of people doing stupid things, I wouldn't want to be accused of selling a gun to someone because they had a piece of paper which could probably be replicated on a printer.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2019 1:12:38 AM EDT
[Last Edit: number40Fan]
[#24]
Was I wrong in thinking that, Effenpig?
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Posted: 4/19/2019 9:46:06 AM EDT
[Last Edit: chase45]
[#25]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By number40Fan:
Was I wrong in thinking that, Effenpig? |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 11:19:00 AM EDT
[#26]
Still pending
was told the average is 9 months by Melissa Lol |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 4:45:30 PM EDT
[#27]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By number40Fan:
Was I wrong in thinking that, Effenpig? The whole point of the letter is so the dealer has the unique reversal number/code they can submit in case there is an issue when they run future PICS/NICS checks |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2019 6:30:58 PM EDT
[#28]
Ah, didn't know it had some kind of number on it. Just figured it was a "This guy is good to go on buying firearms" kind of letter.
Thanks for the explanation. |
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Posted: 4/19/2019 6:32:36 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chase45:
Still pending was told the average is 9 months by Melissa Lol 
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IN, USA
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Posted: 4/19/2019 6:54:58 PM EDT
[#30]
The Sig 45 can that I picked up last week was an 11 month wait.
I have one more I'm waiting on and it was sent last July. I have 4 suppressors now and was intending on getting more. Not now, I'm done with this long wait and it's not getting any better. |
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Posted: 4/21/2019 5:29:39 AM EDT
[#31]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GGF:
The Sig 45 can that I picked up last week was an 11 month wait. I have one more I'm waiting on and it was sent last July. I have 4 suppressors now and was intending on getting more. Not now, I'm done with this long wait and it's not getting any better. That way after the initial wait you have cans coming in at regular intervals |
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Posted: 4/21/2019 5:32:58 AM EDT
[#32]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chase45:
Still pending was told the average is 9 months by Melissa Lol Seems like they're making a point to tell callers about the new "updated timeline" I |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 9:27:16 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Effenpig: Same. I was told in a polite way that I shouldn't bother calling and checking on my Nov 8, 2018 submission until after August Seems like they're making a point to tell callers about the new "updated timeline" I |
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Posted: 4/23/2019 3:02:07 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Effenpig: Same. I was told in a polite way that I shouldn't bother calling and checking on my Nov 8, 2018 submission until after August Seems like they're making a point to tell callers about the new "updated timeline" I Still pending as of today
One of my reps should be checking back in with me here at the end of the month. Be interesting to see what he has to say. I doubt itll do any good however |
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Posted: 4/24/2019 11:10:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Br00D]
[#35]
purchased 12/13/18
check cashed 1/15/19 ... 
~129 more days if the planets align |
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MI, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2019 5:43:45 AM EDT
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Spooled:
Just got my 10-26-18 e file approved, already emailed Jesse huff begging to clear my 12-6-18 and 2-6-19 forms using the same bgc. If those clear I'm calling and begging for my form 4 to LOL |
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MO, USA
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Posted: 5/4/2019 8:30:48 AM EDT
[#37]
Anybody see this post from Capitol Armory seeing some batch approvals?
https://www.instagram.com/p/BxAz6QqlxDd/ |
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Posted: 5/4/2019 10:28:57 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chase45:
Yeah its too bad that Im wayyy beyond their updated timeline Still pending as of today
One of my reps should be checking back in with me here at the end of the month. Be interesting to see what he has to say. I doubt itll do any good however Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chase45:
Originally Posted By Effenpig: Same. I was told in a polite way that I shouldn't bother calling and checking on my Nov 8, 2018 submission until after August Seems like they're making a point to tell callers about the new "updated timeline" I Still pending as of today
One of my reps should be checking back in with me here at the end of the month. Be interesting to see what he has to say. I doubt itll do any good however |
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LA, USA
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Posted: 5/20/2019 4:06:21 PM EDT
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I have a few customers who are well over a year on their Form 4 application. I would like to create a document to give to these customers, and any future customers, who would like to contact their State officials in order to get through "Pending FBI background check" problem.
Can you guys help me with want official should be contacted, and the verbiage that should be in the letter. I will put this information together with the email address of the official in hopes of helping these customers who have abnormally long wait times. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 5/21/2019 2:23:50 PM EDT
[#40]
I had success contacting a rep to help with a couple eform1s earlier this year. Got ahold of them again, after a longer wait then everyone else, on my last one. The reply from the ATF this go around was different then the first time. Essentially, they told my rep to tell me to "shut up and wait".
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Posted: 5/21/2019 4:45:39 PM EDT
[#41]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By number40Fan:
I had success contacting a rep to help with a couple eform1s earlier this year. Got ahold of them again, after a longer wait then everyone else, on my last one. The reply from the ATF this go around was different then the first time. Essentially, they told my rep to tell me to "shut up and wait". Mine didnt do shit for me. He then wanted to pass the buck to a completely different rep since him asking the ATF was doing fuck all. |
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Posted: 5/21/2019 7:38:19 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By chase45: The reps do a whole lot less than what people in this subforum think, imho. Mine didnt do shit for me. He then wanted to pass the buck to a completely different rep since him asking the ATF was doing fuck all. The first two reps I contacted didn't do a damn thing other than "we will see what we can do...but they're pretty busy down at the atf" blah blah blah. I eventually contacted Lyndsey Graham, and did get approval 10 days after contacting him...this was after a 19 month wait. Contacted Graham last because I like him the least of the three. |
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Posted: 5/31/2019 2:48:26 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GTBJW:
And what about April 19, 2018 submissions? 393 days from the date my check was cashed.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/4/2019 11:30:20 AM EDT
[#44]
Just wanted to give a quick update..Form 4 Trust with 3 RP's, sent April 27, 2018, check cashed May 11th. 1 of the RP's has been stuck in the FBI hell hole since September of last year. I spoke to my examiner this morning(Carrie), she said they are processing checks from August, shouldn't be too much longer
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NV, USA
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Posted: 6/8/2019 10:19:24 AM EDT
[#45]
I just found this thread. It took me 15 months for my form to get approved. After a year I called the ATF and they told me they were waiting on the FBI background check. I kind of figured that was BS.
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Posted: 6/9/2019 2:23:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: marcus5819]
[#46]
Well guys add me to this list.
Per Heather Huff Good Afternoon, It would appear that they were fine. We are currently awaiting a final determination from FBI regarding your background check. Once we get that response from FBI, we will be able to proceed with the review of the application. Is this a generic response?? |
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Posted: 6/11/2019 11:23:39 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By marcus5819:
Well guys add me to this list. Per Heather Huff Good Afternoon, It would appear that they were fine. We are currently awaiting a final determination from FBI regarding your background check. Once we get that response from FBI, we will be able to proceed with the review of the application. Is this a generic response??
About 4 months after that email my Form1 was approved.  Attached File |
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Posted: 6/11/2019 1:14:44 PM EDT
[#48]
Are they still letting you know if you're in FBI background check hell? I've been asking if it's regular pending vs FBI background check, and they tell me they can't see that.
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Posted: 6/11/2019 2:00:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAG2955:
Are they still letting you know if you're in FBI background check hell? I've been asking if it's regular pending vs FBI background check, and they tell me they can't see that. I've been told both. In my experience, phone operators just want the conversation to end Asap. Emails have given me a bit more info, but again just depends on who's on the other side. For reference, with the Fbi check it seems to add about 2-3 months extra on the wait. (At least, for me )
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Posted: 6/11/2019 3:16:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 2Keylows: It seems to depend on who you get and how far they want to dig for you. I've been told both. In my experience, phone operators just want the conversation to end Asap. Emails have given me a bit more info, but again just depends on who's on the other side. For reference, with the Fbi check it seems to add about 2-3 months extra on the wait. (At least, for me )Got it a good email contact?
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