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CO, USA
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Posted: 8/19/2020 4:18:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JanJets: I did this and that was not done to mine. i cancelled my earlier one and resubmitted. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JanJets: I did this and that was not done to mine. i cancelled my earlier one and resubmitted. Dang, well so much for that idea. Originally Posted By NEA_1029: I finally got approvals after 107 and 96 days on two early May Eform 1's. These two were stuck in the same "delayed" waiting on the FBI background check hell. Seeing all these recent 30 day or less approvals was painful and I was seriously considering canceling and resubmitting them this week. I'm glad I waited because when I was doing my routine daily check on the Eform website I was surprised to see both in the approved tab. I didn't get approval emails, so i just printed them off the site. I did go through the whole deal with numerous emails and phone calls to my Congressman, Ask The Experts, and even a long shot email to the doj. Not sure what was the golden ticket, maybe it was just a combination of everything who knows. Hoping everyone else that's still stuck in the FBI black hole from May/June starts seeing approvals soon. Thanks for letting us know. Maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel after all! I'm at 100 days and counting as of today. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/20/2020 4:16:47 PM EDT
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Well I finally got an email about my over 100 day eform 1 submission.
It seems I have a Form 23 RPQ upload error. I need to upload and save again. I’m out of town, it’s my first ever submission and it’s been over 100 days, I don’t even remember what a form 23 RPQ is anymore. Is It the responsible person form? |
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Posted: 8/20/2020 4:30:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK-Joe: ...I don’t even remember what a form 23 RPQ is anymore. Is It the responsible person form? No. That would be RPF  RPQ = 5320.23 Responsible Person Questionnaire |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/20/2020 5:38:26 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigWaylon: No. That would be RPF RPQ = 5320.23 Responsible Person Questionnaire Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By BigWaylon: Originally Posted By AK-Joe: ...I don’t even remember what a form 23 RPQ is anymore. Is It the responsible person form? No. That would be RPF RPQ = 5320.23 Responsible Person Questionnaire Doh! Thanks! |
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Posted: 8/22/2020 11:33:06 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NEA_1029: I finally got approvals after 107 and 96 days on two early May Eform 1's. These two were stuck in the same "delayed" waiting on the FBI background check hell. Seeing all these recent 30 day or less approvals was painful and I was seriously considering canceling and resubmitting them this week. I'm glad I waited because when I was doing my routine daily check on the Eform website I was surprised to see both in the approved tab. I didn't get approval emails, so i just printed them off the site. I did go through the whole deal with numerous emails and phone calls to my Congressman, Ask The Experts, and even a long shot email to the doj. Not sure what was the golden ticket, maybe it was just a combination of everything who knows. Hoping everyone else that's still stuck in the FBI black hole from May/June starts seeing approvals soon.   Also no approval email. WTF? I didn't do anything to shake the tree other than calling once to check status about five weeks back. All Forms still just pending at that time. |
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Posted: 8/22/2020 2:33:10 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sprocket99: I filed two eForm 1's in May, on the 9th and 17th. 5/17 was recently approved at 90 days. 5/09 is still sitting in 'submitted' status at 105 days. Come on, ATF! Get your finger outta your collective ass. Also no approval email. WTF? I didn't do anything to shake the tree other than calling once to check status about five weeks back. All Forms still just pending at that time. I had the same issue. I ended up withdrawing the first application and resubmitting. I’ll know in a couple weeks whether it was worth it or not lol |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 11:13:44 AM EDT
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Finally!!
Just got the emails. My two form 1's submitted 05/19 were approved today. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 8/24/2020 11:31:55 AM EDT
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I just got the email that my eform from 5/11 was...... Disapproved!
Reason stated was that the form 23 for me was incomplete, and that they couldn't open it. I logged into the site to see what I had submitted and saw that all the form 23 PDFs and the portrait jpgs were showing at 0kb on the files page. I'm guessing they didn't upload right when I was entering responsible persons due to a website glitch and that's why they aren't able to open them. Dang it! Well I have an email in to ask the experts to see if I can resubmit and have them use the same fingerprint cards. We'll see what happens. |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 8/24/2020 11:42:43 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By fettesbrotde: I guarantee its magically approved the day your congressman's office contacts with ATF. Speaking from experience here. Well, you were right. Can was approved the day my congressman made contact; however, my other can from earlier this year is still pending....at least I got this approved from July 2019!! |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/24/2020 5:17:01 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRat: I just got the email that my eform from 5/11 was...... Disapproved! Reason stated was that the form 23 for me was incomplete, and that they couldn't open it. I logged into the site to see what I had submitted and saw that all the form 23 PDFs and the portrait jpgs were showing at 0kb on the files page. I'm guessing they didn't upload right when I was entering responsible persons due to a website glitch and that's why they aren't able to open them. Dang it! Well I have an email in to ask the experts to see if I can resubmit and have them use the same fingerprint cards. We'll see what happens. I just checked my uploads and they show "0" as well but when I click it it allows me to download it and all is there. |
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Posted: 8/24/2020 7:31:34 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Bizill: I just checked my uploads and they show "0" as well but when I click it it allows me to download it and all is there. Same here. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/24/2020 11:02:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrRecon: Same here. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By MrRecon: Originally Posted By Bizill: I just checked my uploads and they show "0" as well but when I click it it allows me to download it and all is there. Same here. Me too. I received an email from the examiner telling me there was an upload error on my RPQ form 23. He asked me to upload again and save. |
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Posted: 8/25/2020 8:18:45 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK-Joe: Me too. I received an email from the examiner telling me there was an upload error on my RPQ form 23. He asked me to upload again and save. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AK-Joe: Originally Posted By MrRecon: Originally Posted By Bizill: I just checked my uploads and they show "0" as well but when I click it it allows me to download it and all is there. Same here. Me too. I received an email from the examiner telling me there was an upload error on my RPQ form 23. He asked me to upload again and save. Same. I went ahead and uploaded the docs again just to be safe. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 8/25/2020 11:29:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By socommatthews: Same. I went ahead and uploaded the docs again just to be safe. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By socommatthews: Originally Posted By AK-Joe: Originally Posted By MrRecon: Originally Posted By Bizill: I just checked my uploads and they show "0" as well but when I click it it allows me to download it and all is there. Same here. Me too. I received an email from the examiner telling me there was an upload error on my RPQ form 23. He asked me to upload again and save. Same. I went ahead and uploaded the docs again just to be safe. Mine was approved this morning. I had to upload twice though. I may not have hit save the first time but it uploaded correctly the second time. There’s clearly an issue with that section of the of the website as well as the other documented issues we know about. |
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USA
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Posted: 8/26/2020 6:45:00 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By larrys: She did reply to my second request that she will submit for a withdrawal of my 200 fee. I’ll keep you posted. ETA on 8/11 I requested my application be canceled and same day my application shows denied and I received an email stating such. I’ll edit this post again once I receive credit to my CC Did you get ever get refunded? if so how long did it take? |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 8/27/2020 7:35:25 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JanJets: Did you get ever get refunded? if so how long did it take? Still waiting for my refund since 8/11 |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 8:05:38 AM EDT
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My two e-form 1 sbr stamps from 5/9 were finally approved today, I guess my laziness to not cancel yet paid off.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 8/27/2020 8:58:39 AM EDT
[Last Edit: TheRat]
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It's thursday morning and I don't have a reply from my two emails sent monday morning asking if the fingerprint cards/background check from the disapproved eform 1 can be transferred to a new one.
They really seem to have it out for me on this item. Edit: speak of the devil, they just replied and said that they changed the policy and won't allow fingerprint card transfers anymore, so a new set will need to be submitted. Dang. |
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Posted: 8/27/2020 10:12:26 AM EDT
[Last Edit: usn_grunt]
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For a giggle, I submitted an "Ask the Experts" form inquiring about Batch Approvals since I have a few stamps in the system and have had 3 approved already. The ATF actually said that they approve Form 4's in the order they're received. It's more like the examiners have a random number generator they use to decide what application gets worked on. lol.
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Posted: 8/27/2020 7:06:56 PM EDT
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Finally had my first “negative” interaction with the NFA. I’m having some minor issues with the 5320.20 forms I filed for next year. Filed for 10 states at once. 3 came back from one examiner as Approved, with conditions. The other 7 (filled out the same way) came back Approved by a different examiner.
First examiner is definitely new and claims it’s how his supervisor trained him. I said she was making up rules. So he said he’d have her call me. I told her the same thing. While I was explaining, she said “have a nice day, sir” over top of me speaking and hung up. I’d given her my email at her request and she said she’d provide the proof. Guess I’ll wait and see. The issue is I filed one SBR as .50 when it’s registered as 5.56...nevermind that for 5 of the 6 previous years I’d filed it as 5.7 and been approved. She’s trying to tell (through the examiner) that 5.56 to .50 was too big of a jump. Then when I spoke to her today she said I couldn’t even change one to .50 .Too bad Ted is in a different position and Gary retired. 
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Posted: 8/29/2020 7:29:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Sprocket99]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usn_grunt: The ATF actually said that they approve Form 4's in the order they're received.  And there's your Saturday morning bullshit, ladies and gents. I e-submitted a F1 on 5/9/20, and another on 5/17/20. Both for SBRs, no difference in Trust docs, etc. The 5/17 form was approved on 8/17, 90 days exactly. The one from 5/09 is still pending after 112 days. I can't see that Form 1s and 4s would have radically different processes, for order of assignment to examiners. |
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USA
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Posted: 8/29/2020 2:07:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sprocket99: And there's your Saturday morning bullshit, ladies and gents. I e-submitted a F1 on 5/9/20, and another on 5/17/20. Both for SBRs, no difference in Trust docs, etc. The 5/17 form was approved on 8/17, 90 days exactly. The one from 5/09 is still pending after 112 days. I can't see that Form 1s and 4s would have radically different processes, for order of assignment to examiners. Had the same thing happen to me man. submitted one of 5/26 and another on 7/9. The one from 7/9 went pending research for 2.5 weeks and still beat the one from 5/26. i withdrew and resubmitted the may one, hoping it’s approved next week. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 8/30/2020 4:11:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By larrys: Still waiting for my refund since 8/11 I received my 200 credit to CC on 8/29, 18 days total. |
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USA
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Posted: 8/31/2020 7:33:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By larrys: I received my 200 credit to CC on 8/29, 18 days total. I just received mine today, 16 days total for me |
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AZ, USA
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Posted: 8/31/2020 2:25:13 PM EDT
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Now ya'll got me paranoid. When I go to view my documents on Form 1 and it shows 0 bytes, yet documents are there when you click on them, just making sure I'm not the only one with big red X's next to the documents. I ASSume that's supposed to mean "Delete"... but it makes it look like there's a big ERROR instead...
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/1/2020 1:30:38 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By larrys: Still waiting for my refund since 8/11 20 days for me. From 8/11 to 8/31. |
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USA
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Posted: 9/2/2020 2:59:26 PM EDT
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I have a Form 4 One Shot Trust at 400 DAYS.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 9/2/2020 4:20:43 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Five_Elements: I have a Form 4 One Shot Trust at 400 DAYS. Oh ouch that's horrible. And I'm guessing they haven't given you a reason? I just got my $200 refund on the disapproved form. Fingerprints on the resubmitted one were just received yesterday, so now to timer begins again. |
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USA
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Posted: 9/2/2020 4:25:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: The_Five_Elements]
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By TheRat: Oh ouch that's horrible. And I'm guessing they haven't given you a reason? I just got my $200 refund on the disapproved form. Fingerprints on the resubmitted one were just received yesterday, so now to timer begins again. Correct, no reason given. Getting pissed. It's insane how long they have been able to get away with this shit. I really wish Trump would have gone in dry when he had the chance to do some reforms. This is how we get treated for following the rules. That sucks bad on the resubmission BTW, dang. |
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Posted: 9/3/2020 8:30:04 AM EDT
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Well, my form 1 was disapproved this morning because I uploaded the wrong, unsigned, RPQ...
But if the ATFs site would have uploaded my forms correctly the first time (they showed as 0 bites) then I wouldn’t have uploaded the wrong damn form
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Posted: 9/5/2020 11:39:53 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Five_Elements: I have a Form 4 One Shot Trust at 400 DAYS. @The_Five_Elements |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 9/5/2020 2:50:02 PM EDT
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At what point should one consider cancelling their eForm 1 and resubmitting? Mine is sitting at 80 days, with no resolution in sight. Last one late last year took two weeks. Aside from paying another $200 and using up another set of fingerprint cards, I wondering if there are any downsides of resubmitting for something that’s already been submitted.
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Posted: 9/5/2020 3:52:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: usn_grunt]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: At what point should one consider cancelling their eForm 1 and resubmitting? Mine is sitting at 80 days, with no resolution in sight. Last one late last year took two weeks. Aside from paying another $200 and using up another set of fingerprint cards, I wondering if there are any downsides of resubmitting for something that’s already been submitted. @willi3d Form 1's are taking 100+ days right now. I wouldn't cancel it. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 9/5/2020 5:52:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: willi3d]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By usn_grunt: @willi3d Form 1's are taking 100+ days right now. I wouldn't cancel it. Are they? People are still reporting that they are getting theirs back in a couple of weeks in the eForm 1 tracking thread. There seems to be a batch from June that’s gotten “stuck” in waiting for the FBI from what’s been posted, while others after that are being processed with more or less normal times. |
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TX, USA
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Posted: 9/5/2020 5:58:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: Are they? People are still reporting that they are getting theirs back in a couple of weeks in the eForm 1 tracking thread. There seems to be a batch from June that’s gotten “stuck” in waiting for the FBI from what’s been posted, while others after that are being processed with more or less normal times. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: Originally Posted By usn_grunt: @willi3d Form 1's are taking 100+ days right now. I wouldn't cancel it. Are they? People are still reporting that they are getting theirs back in a couple of weeks in the eForm 1 tracking thread. There seems to be a batch from June that’s gotten “stuck” in waiting for the FBI from what’s been posted, while others after that are being processed with more or less normal times. Mine took 108 days. I would hold off on cancelling just yet. I was just as frustrated as you are and also considered cancelling, glad I waited. |
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Posted: 9/5/2020 6:42:58 PM EDT
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I recently did a efofm1. Came back in 13 days
 
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Posted: 9/5/2020 7:32:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: Are they? People are still reporting that they are getting theirs back in a couple of weeks in the eForm 1 tracking thread. There seems to be a batch from June that’s gotten “stuck” in waiting for the FBI from what’s been posted, while others after that are being processed with more or less normal times. I have an eForm 1 submitted going on two weeks. I would wait it out. Funny enough, I had two Form 4's come back in 100 days recently. lol. |
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USA
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Posted: 9/5/2020 7:42:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: At what point should one consider cancelling their eForm 1 and resubmitting? Mine is sitting at 80 days, with no resolution in sight. Last one late last year took two weeks. Aside from paying another $200 and using up another set of fingerprint cards, I wondering if there are any downsides of resubmitting for something that’s already been submitted. I submitted one on 5/26, i waited until 8/13 and then withdrew it and resubmitted. They received my prints on 8/18 and it was approved on 8/31. I had also submitted another one on 7/9 and it was approved on 8/7 with 2.5 weeks of pending research. Cancelling and resubmitting got me mine faster as they still haven’t gotten through all of may according to some trackers. This was my experience, ymmv |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/6/2020 12:07:35 AM EDT
[Last Edit: mauser89]
[#39]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By willi3d: Are they? People are still reporting that they are getting theirs back in a couple of weeks in the eForm 1 tracking thread. There seems to be a batch from June that’s gotten “stuck” in waiting for the FBI from what’s been posted, while others after that are being processed with more or less normal times. I'd wait. I cancelled and resubmitted on 8/11 and its still pending. I am beginning to wonder if it has to do with my trust. |
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ID, USA
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Posted: 9/8/2020 11:02:26 PM EDT
[#40]
Still waiting on a 6/28 SBR form 1 submission.
I did form 1 suppressor back in December/January that only took about 3 weeks. |
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Posted: 9/9/2020 6:13:07 PM EDT
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I normally wouldn't complain about a Form 1 taking so long, but I guess I got spoiled when I had 6 Form 1's approved within a few weeks... Before June 2020
I currently have two from June somewhere out there in the abyss... Rumble rumble rumble... |
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WA, USA
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Posted: 9/10/2020 12:55:49 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By The_Five_Elements: I have a Form 4 One Shot Trust at 400 DAYS. Hopefully you'll get it back in within the next 2 months. Either it is approved or "returned without action." The NFA branch generally give forms about 18 months to finish, one way or another, unless the forms are "lost" and is just marked "pending" in the tracking system and nobody cares to look into it at the 18 months mark  |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 9/11/2020 1:16:59 PM EDT
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My resubmitted eform was approved.
Resubmitted 8/27 Prints received 9/1 APPROVED 9/11 16 days. If only it had done that the first time around rather than the long wait and disapproval! |
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PA, USA
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Posted: 9/11/2020 3:40:28 PM EDT
[Last Edit: mauser89]
[#44]
Mine is still pending from 8/11 but if I go under electronic documents, the passport photo and 5320.23 both show 0kb as a file size and when I click on either one it downloads the photo.
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Posted: 9/16/2020 4:28:44 PM EDT
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Does anyone know what's going on with Form 3's and the ATF? I purchased an R9 from Silencer Shop and the Form 3 was submitted on 8/13, and it's still not approved yet. I've followed up with Silencer Shop twice. All they've been able to tell me is it's on ATF's end and they are just waiting on them to "fix a bug in their system". Tomorrow will start the 6th week of the Form 3 hanging out there, and while I don't want to cancel my order over this, I'm getting a little upset over these delays that should be very quick.
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USA
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Posted: 9/19/2020 4:37:58 AM EDT
[Last Edit: amediocreshooter]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mauser89: Mine is still pending from 8/11 but if I go under electronic documents, the passport photo and 5320.23 both show 0kb as a file size and when I click on either one it downloads the photo. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mauser89: Mine is still pending from 8/11 but if I go under electronic documents, the passport photo and 5320.23 both show 0kb as a file size and when I click on either one it downloads the photo. This is normal. Originally Posted By TheRat: My resubmitted eform was approved. Resubmitted 8/27 Prints received 9/1 APPROVED 9/11 16 days. If only it had done that the first time around rather than the long wait and disapproval! Finally lol |
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Posted: 9/24/2020 4:30:12 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cardboardkiller]
[#47]
Just got another disapproval for a Form 1 SBR because my fingerprints and cover letter didn’t show up. I’ll probably get another one in a day or two since I mailed 2 in the same envelope.
This is twice in a row for the same one (submitted for the first time in June or July) and it’ll be the first the second. Address I used: National Firearms Act Division P.O. Box 5015 Portland, OR 97208-5015 |
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NC, USA
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Posted: 9/24/2020 5:27:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By cardboardkiller: Just got another disapproval for a Form 1 SBR because my fingerprints and cover letter didn’t show up. I’ll probably get another one in a day or two since I mailed 2 in the same envelope. This is twice in a row for the same one (submitted for the first time in June or July) and it’ll be the first the second. Address I used: National Firearms Act Division P.O. Box 5015 Portland, OR 97208-5015 Wrong address bro. They suppose to go to Martinsburg, WV. Probably why you keep getting a disapproval. |
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Posted: 9/24/2020 5:38:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyUtah427: Wrong address bro. They suppose to go to Martinsburg, WV. Probably why you keep getting a disapproval. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyUtah427: Originally Posted By cardboardkiller: Just got another disapproval for a Form 1 SBR because my fingerprints and cover letter didn’t show up. I’ll probably get another one in a day or two since I mailed 2 in the same envelope. This is twice in a row for the same one (submitted for the first time in June or July) and it’ll be the first the second. Address I used: National Firearms Act Division P.O. Box 5015 Portland, OR 97208-5015 Wrong address bro. They suppose to go to Martinsburg, WV. Probably why you keep getting a disapproval. Yep, this is the correct address. |
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Posted: 9/24/2020 5:52:53 PM EDT
[Last Edit: cardboardkiller]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyUtah427: Wrong address bro. They suppose to go to Martinsburg, WV. Probably why you keep getting a disapproval. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JohnnyUtah427: Wrong address bro. They suppose to go to Martinsburg, WV. Probably why you keep getting a disapproval. Originally Posted By socommatthews: Yep, this is the correct address. Not according to ATF website or what is at the top of the Form 1. https://www.atf.gov/resource-center/new-mailing-addresses-many-atf-registration-forms When’s the last time either one of you did a Form 1? |
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