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Posted: 4/1/2020 1:27:39 PM EDT
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Sn of item, your name along with trust name if in trust, and transferring dealer.
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Posted: 4/1/2020 1:39:16 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By monkeypunch: When you guys call the ATF to ask for a status update, what info will they need, and do I need to ask to talk to someone specific?? You need to be prepared to be told pending and that it takes 10 months. Which means now youll probably get it so your welcome! |
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Posted: 4/1/2020 1:54:04 PM EDT
[Last Edit: swampvol]
[#3]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By artimus009: Sn of item, your name along with trust name if in trust, and transferring dealer. lol, I didn't think it would really be necessary to mention this part, Capt. Obvious.  |
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Posted: 4/1/2020 1:58:07 PM EDT
[Last Edit: monkeypunch]
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By laxman09: You need to be prepared to be told pending and that it takes 10 months. Which means now youll probably get it so your welcome! I hope you're right!  Damn, I don't have the S/Ns. |
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Posted: 4/1/2020 3:43:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By monkeypunch: When you guys call the ATF to ask for a status update, what info will they need, and do I need to ask to talk to someone specific?? Here’s a copy/paste of my answer to the same question back in December: You can handle the entire conversation in two statements. Three if you say “thanks” or “have a Merry Christmas” or anything else after they give the info. ATF answers the phone You: Hi, this is John Doe and I need to check the status of a Form 4 ATF asks for serial number You: ABC-123, transferring from Joe’s Gun shop to John Doe’s Trust ATF gives you status You: Thanks, have a nice day I’ve never been on the phone more than 30 seconds once they pick up. |
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FL, USA
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Posted: 4/2/2020 7:07:29 PM EDT
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I feel like they skipped over Aug and Sept, (mine). I see all these Jul and Dec approvals.
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Posted: 4/2/2020 8:56:09 PM EDT
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I cashed a stamp in July and December.
LGS is reporting returns from stuff in January. Buddy got two back from January and still has stuff pending from last summer and fall. I wrote a letter to my Senator today. See how it shakes out. |
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Posted: 4/6/2020 4:49:50 PM EDT
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I am happy to report back that my Form 4 arrived this morning to my FFL. Can in hand! Approved on 3/14, in hand on 4/6
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Posted: 4/6/2020 5:58:36 PM EDT
[#9]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ScottsGT: I am happy to report back that my Form 4 arrived this morning to my FFL. Can in hand! Approved on 3/14, in hand on 4/6 
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/6/2020 10:58:20 PM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ScottsGT: I am happy to report back that my Form 4 arrived this morning to my FFL. Can in hand! Approved on 3/14, in hand on 4/6 
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Posted: 4/6/2020 11:35:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 135Patriots: Nice! All these October approvals are giving me hope. I want to call the BATF phone line again but I know that I'll be met with the crushing disappointment of "still pending..." from the other end of the phone Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 135Patriots: Originally Posted By ScottsGT: I am happy to report back that my Form 4 arrived this morning to my FFL. Can in hand! Approved on 3/14, in hand on 4/6 Ya I have an early oct one too. Every time I call it’s still pending . |
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IN, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2020 12:19:20 AM EDT
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I have 2 Form4 from April 29th, checks cashed on May 17th, 2019.
Both pending. |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 8:06:34 AM EDT
[#13]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1911xdm: Ya I have an early oct one too. Every time I call it’s still pending . Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1911xdm: Originally Posted By 135Patriots: Originally Posted By ScottsGT: I am happy to report back that my Form 4 arrived this morning to my FFL. Can in hand! Approved on 3/14, in hand on 4/6 Ya I have an early oct one too. Every time I call it’s still pending . I got an early Oct one too. No luck. Oh yeah and still no luck on my July 19 one as well. WTF ATF. |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 9:22:56 AM EDT
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I really hope that 90 approval bill passes. I honestly don’t think anybody would be opposed to that. No reason it won’t pass. The dems still get their background check and $200. We still get fingerprinted and checked. No reason the system should not take 90 days or less.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2020 10:59:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1911xdm: I really hope that 90 approval bill passes. I honestly don't think anybody would be opposed to that. No reason it won't pass. The dems still get their background check and $200. We still get fingerprinted and checked. No reason the system should not take 90 days or less. Don't get me wrong, I'd love for this bill to pass. It doesn't change anything insofar as security and vetting is concerned, tax revenue is maintained (it would probably grow for that matter), etc. It's entirely reasonable. |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 12:15:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 135Patriots: I won't pretend to know much about the nuance of the legislative process, but a bill like this appeals to a very small segment of the broader population. The overwhelming majority of Americans have no knowledge of or interest in the NFA and its obnoxious features. My guess is that most legislator's attitudes will reflect that. So, I could see a lot of 'not present' or 'no' votes, not so much because the legislator is strongly opposed to it, but because they don't have any real constituent pressure. Don't get me wrong, I'd love for this bill to pass. It doesn't change anything insofar as security and vetting is concerned, tax revenue is maintained (it would probably grow for that matter), etc. It's entirely reasonable. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 135Patriots: Originally Posted By 1911xdm: I really hope that 90 approval bill passes. I honestly don't think anybody would be opposed to that. No reason it won't pass. The dems still get their background check and $200. We still get fingerprinted and checked. No reason the system should not take 90 days or less. Don't get me wrong, I'd love for this bill to pass. It doesn't change anything insofar as security and vetting is concerned, tax revenue is maintained (it would probably grow for that matter), etc. It's entirely reasonable. I don’t see why they would vote against it though. It’s not hurting anything just speeding up a long process time. |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 1:20:28 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1911xdm: Ya I have an early oct one too. Every time I call it’s still pending . Called on my early October pending this morning. Still pending. May go add a Chimera to see if the MultiPass actually works. |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2020 1:21:45 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1911xdm: I don't see why they would vote against it though. It's not hurting anything just speeding up a long process time. I don't think it's a bill that will garner much energy or support outside of established gun rights legislators, put another way. That's not to say it's right, just, or sensible! |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/7/2020 1:23:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By m24shooter: Called on my early October pending this morning. Still pending. May go add a Chimera to see if the MultiPass actually works. I'm gonna take that as a sign from the NFA gods that it's still pending. |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 1:24:33 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 135Patriots: I just tried calling twice and the line immediately dropped after the employee picked up the phone and asked how she could help. Either Jennifer at BATF hated the sound of my voice, or my phone was being weird I'm gonna take that as a sign from the NFA gods that it's still pending. Lol the exact same thing happened to me, with Jennifer answering. I had to wait a while before calling back due to a conference call, and then got right through to get my "still pending" answer. |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 6:42:59 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1911xdm: I really hope that 90 approval bill passes. I honestly don’t think anybody would be opposed to that. No reason it won’t pass. The dems still get their background check and $200. We still get fingerprinted and checked. No reason the system should not take 90 days or less. As I recall, my 1st Evah! Transfer at the Turn of the 21st Century took about 90 days. |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 8:32:14 PM EDT
[Last Edit: southshore30]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ScottsGT: I am happy to report back that my Form 4 arrived this morning to my FFL. Can in hand! Approved on 3/14, in hand on 4/6 Excellent! They must have been on a roll yesterday. My first submission came back approved yesterday after getting a email at 6am from the examiner to log in and upload a copy of my LTC and click save. I did it right away and a few hours later I get the email I was approved. Still waiting on the other one I filed two days later but sent in one set of prints at the same time for both submissions. I checked the second application and I’d remembered to upload my LTC when I submitted |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 8:43:40 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By southshore30: Excellent! They must have been on a roll yesterday. My first submission came back approved yesterday after getting a email at 6am from the examiner to log in and upload a cool of my LTC and click save. I did it right away and a few hours later I get the email I was approved. Still waiting on the other one I filed two days later but sent in one set of prints at the same time for both submissions. I checked the second application and I’d remembered to upload my LTC when I submitted To keep track: When did you send it in????? |
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Posted: 4/7/2020 11:50:54 PM EDT
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It was a form 1 not 4. Submitted 3/13 and another on 3/15. First one approved yesterday. 24 days
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/8/2020 2:14:29 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By southshore30: It was a form 1 not 4. Submitted 3/13 and another on 3/15. First one approved yesterday. 24 days If it was paper, show me your ways 
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Posted: 4/8/2020 3:55:48 AM EDT
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Not really an NFA complaint, butt...
I mailed off my very first Form 4 Saturday morning, USPS Priority Mail. As of this morning, it would appear that USPS has already lost the damn thing. Location unknown since Monday afternoon.  |
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Posted: 4/8/2020 2:47:13 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sprocket99: Not really an NFA complaint, butt... I mailed off my very first Form 4 Saturday morning, USPS Priority Mail. As of this morning, it would appear that USPS has already lost the damn thing. Location unknown since Monday afternoon. https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_angry.gif If it makes you feel better, my f4 (336 days) and f1 (37 days) applications hit a "delayed" status.
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/8/2020 3:10:01 PM EDT
[#28]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sprocket99: Not really an NFA complaint, butt... I mailed off my very first Form 4 Saturday morning, USPS Priority Mail. As of this morning, it would appear that USPS has already lost the damn thing. Location unknown since Monday afternoon. https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_angry.gif 
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Posted: 4/8/2020 4:48:02 PM EDT
[#29]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Colt_sporter: The race is on! Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Colt_sporter: Originally Posted By JAG2955: Originally Posted By Colt_sporter: F4 check cashed 7/8/19...still waiting.  The race is on! |
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Posted: 4/8/2020 6:10:18 PM EDT
[#30]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 135Patriots: Surely that was an e form 1, yeah? The last EF1 I filed last summer came back approved in something like three weeks. If it was paper, show me your ways Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 135Patriots: Originally Posted By southshore30: It was a form 1 not 4. Submitted 3/13 and another on 3/15. First one approved yesterday. 24 days If it was paper, show me your ways Yes, definitely, it was eform. Still waiting on one more filed two days after that one |
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Posted: 4/8/2020 6:33:15 PM EDT
[Last Edit: floridahunter07]
[#31]
Currently waiting for a 01/28 check cashing submission. It arrived to NFA branch on 01/27 so hopefully my dealer can get me the SN (I don't have it available right now) and I can call and get a status... The few quick turn arounds have me hopeful...
ETA: Still pending, no surprise
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MD, USA
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Posted: 4/10/2020 3:33:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Sprocket99: Not really an NFA complaint, butt... I mailed off my very first Form 4 Saturday morning, USPS Priority Mail. As of this morning, it would appear that USPS has already lost the damn thing. Location unknown since Monday afternoon. https://www.ar15.com/images/smilies/icon_smile_angry.gif Oh hey you may be in my boat then. I bought a can in 2017 and I'm *STILL FUCKING WAITING* for it. Examiner refuses to return voicemails (and *EVERYTHING* goes to voicemail), i'm in MD so congressionals couldn't give half a fuck about anything gun related, so now what? |
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Posted: 4/10/2020 3:38:50 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ProfessorHorseyhead: Oh hey you may be in my boat then. I bought a can in 2017 and I'm *STILL FUCKING WAITING* for it. Examiner refuses to return voicemails (and *EVERYTHING* goes to voicemail), i'm in MD so congressionals couldn't give half a fuck about anything gun related, so now what? Holy shit what?! Id have canceled the Form 4 by now and tried over again. That is insanity. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 4/10/2020 3:58:18 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By laxman09: Holy shit what?! Id have canceled the Form 4 by now and tried over again. That is insanity. Oh it's total insanity. It wouldn't surprise me if i cancelled it and never saw the $200. |
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Posted: 4/17/2020 3:36:16 PM EDT
[#35]
Every week I call on my oct 5th can. Every week I get the same still pending answer. All the other oct people have their stamps.
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Posted: 4/17/2020 4:14:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1911xdm: Every week I call on my oct 5th can. Every week I get the same still pending answer. All the other oct people have their stamps. Dont worry, so do lots of guys from Jan/Feb 2020 Im just not one of them. |
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Posted: 4/17/2020 5:32:54 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1911xdm: Every week I call on my oct 5th can. Every week I get the same still pending answer. All the other oct people have their stamps. Laughs in July... |
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TN, USA
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Posted: 4/17/2020 11:25:54 PM EDT
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By 1911xdm: Every week I call on my oct 5th can. Every week I get the same still pending answer. All the other oct people have their stamps. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 4/20/2020 2:32:24 PM EDT
[#39]
Holy fucking shit.
Last week I called and was still pending. Today I called and apparently it was approved March 27th. Dealer naturally still hasn't received the approved stamp. God I wish I could be as shit at my job as these NFA clowns are. |
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Posted: 4/20/2020 3:55:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ProfessorHorseyhead: Holy fucking shit. Last week I called and was still pending. Today I called and apparently it was approved March 27th. Dealer naturally still hasn't received the approved stamp. God I wish I could be as shit at my job as these NFA clowns are. Guess I'll be calling again on my day off this week
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Posted: 4/21/2020 3:44:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ProfessorHorseyhead: Holy fucking shit. Last week I called and was still pending. Today I called and apparently it was approved March 27th. Dealer naturally still hasn't received the approved stamp. God I wish I could be as shit at my job as these NFA clowns are. 3 years lol. Some kind of record? That Aem5 will be worth it. |
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MD, USA
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Posted: 4/21/2020 12:07:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: ProfessorHorseyhead]
[#42]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Engel12626: 3 years lol. Some kind of record? That Aem5 will be worth it. Maybe it won't be, I got run out of the mk12 thread for not using a long collar. Some of those fuckers have a lot of their lives they don't control, it would seem. Hopefully they can find themselves on the right side of life again soon. I've been that depressed before, just constantly ripping into other people to try and lift myself up. All that hate's gonna burn them up.
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2020 5:47:54 PM EDT
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Check cashed for a Hybrid 46 on September 4. Since that time I've built a 458 SBR and I just got 450 grain loads dialed in this past weekend. The wait has only gotten more difficult now.
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:03:13 PM EDT
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I just caught these numbers from Another Site:
Form 4 Individual Sparrow 22 Mailed: 10/28/2019 CC Charged: 11/03/2018 Approved: 03/20/2020 Received: 04/09/2020 My calculations say 164 Days. 23 Weeks The Times are slowly Dropping! 
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:07:48 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GiggleSmith: I just caught these numbers from Another Site: My calculations say 164 Days. 23 Weeks The Times are slowly Dropping! No, they’re not. Because 6 days after that I had one approved from May 2019. What they’re doing is being consistently sporadic.
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MD, USA
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Posted: 4/22/2020 9:50:59 PM EDT
[#46]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GiggleSmith: I just caught these numbers from Another Site: My calculations say 164 Days. 23 Weeks The Times are slowly Dropping! 
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Posted: 4/23/2020 6:08:49 PM EDT
[#47]
 I DID say S L O W L YIf the trend hold I might be able to pick up my latest two cans in July and August instead of November and later. |
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CO, USA
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Posted: 4/23/2020 6:25:27 PM EDT
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Today is my birthday. As a present, the atf decided to approve my next door neighbors can. Not sure how that works, but there it is.
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Posted: 4/23/2020 6:52:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZ-AR15: Today is my birthday. As a present, the atf decided to approve my next door neighbors can. Not sure how that works, but there it is. 
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Posted: 4/23/2020 7:00:02 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By AZ-AR15: Today is my birthday. As a present, the atf decided to approve my next door neighbors can. Not sure how that works, but there it is. It was the ATF version of this... 
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