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235 days. Still pending background. Gotta love it.
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Wednesday will be day 300 for me.
To make matters worse, I sent it out on July 2nd 2017 and they didn't cash the check until Aug. 24, a day after I called them and asked wtf? They told me they hadn't received it. Yet, the very next day it magically appeared and got cashed. So, technically, you could add another 52 days to that 300. |
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Doesn't mean that much to me, to mean that much to you.
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Sent my form 4 on 3/11/2017. This sucks
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The struggle to free myself from restraints, becomes my very shackles
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"He should have killed me. I would have killed me."
For God and Country: Geronimo! Geronimo! Geronimo! Michael Moore: Trump’s election is going to be the biggest Fuck You ever recorded in human history….And it will feel good. |
Two months later after approval, still no stamp.
I've had like seven form 4s and three form 1s approved so far with no muss and no fuss. This one right here is a major buzzkill on my NFA experience thus far. |
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"When you have made evil the means of survival, do not expect men to remain good...do not expect them to produce, when production is punished and looting is rewarded. Do not ask, 'Who is destroying the world?' You are." - Ayn Rand
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This is sorta a complaint, even though I shouldn’t. I’m anxious. Form 4 individual
Mailed 1/20/18 Pending 1/28/18?(Who really knows) Called yesterday and the lady said I have at least 8 months. I said you mean 8 months total and she replied no sir you have about 8 more months from today (6/26/18). She just said Recieved Form 4, 1/28/18 not a pending date or Nottin!!!!! |
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Originally Posted By Komodoj815:
This is sorta a complaint, even though I shouldn’t. I’m anxious. Form 4 individual Mailed 1/20/18 Pending 1/28/18?(Who really knows) Called yesterday and the lady said I have at least 8 months. I said you mean 8 months total and she replied no sir you have about 8 more months from today (6/26/18). She just said Recieved Form 4, 1/28/18 not a pending date or Nottin!!!!! View Quote |
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This whole process is so archaic that its borderline criminal.
There is absolutely zero reason for this. The NFA branch brought in roughly $68 Million in taxes in 2016. Sixty Eight fucking million, and we can't even get a form processed in a reasonable amount of time. Every year that goes up, and every year they still fail to take serious effort to move into the 21st century with processing NFA forms and taxes. |
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Currently my Estimates say about 31 weeks, 215 days. So sent 1-20-2018 with about 31 weeks waiting says about August 20.
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"He should have killed me. I would have killed me."
For God and Country: Geronimo! Geronimo! Geronimo! Michael Moore: Trump’s election is going to be the biggest Fuck You ever recorded in human history….And it will feel good. |
Had a guy on a local forum post this today:
Spoke with my examiner this morning... let me tell you they are just as frustrated as we are at this point. She explained that my background was not an instant-pass for whatever reason (I have a perfect record) and that the FBI was currently processing background checks that were initiated in February, mine was initiated in May. It is what it is at this point and there was nothing she could do to expedite the process, she did mention if I had a stamp that was approved within 30 days she could apply that background status to any additional pending stamps. Apparently the recent push in Form 1's has to do with their efforts to get e-file back online. She said it's close. Sucks but nice to at least get some clarity on the situation. No additional details on the 30-day deal...to know if it's automatic or if you'd have to call and point out the fact you had one approved recently. And that's the first I've heard of anybody there mentioning eforms coming back. I know it was mentioned when 41F went into effect, but that's the last I heard. |
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I wonder what is all involved in doing the “FBI” background process? They look for unpaid tickets? Jay walking? Missed Jury duty? Back Child support issues????
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Small complaint.
Had my 2 PBS-1 bought from Bunker tactical sent to my local FFL. Told the guy last week they would be delivered today and provided him with tracking. Sent another message to him on Saturday that the delivery would be Monday and got a auto response back saying they will be closed for the week of the forth. So wondering if Fedex will hold the suppressors or if they will send them back to Bunker. No human response back from the owner of the local FFL. Kinda pissed. Also called and checked status of F4 MG and its still pending. Purchase date was Nov 20 17, check cash date was 1/23/18. Had high hopes that it might had been approved for my interdependence day present. |
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More bullshit...
My Dec 16th 2017 pending has now been in "waiting on FBI background check" for about 2 weeks now... Here we go with a long ass wait some more. I have a petty offense / misdemeanor from 10 years ago, but never get delayed or denied on firearms purchases, have other NFA items, and have a security clearance, but nooooo lets throw in some more bullshit wait because the gov is inefficient. I should have just bought all the suppressors I'd ever wanted last year and been done with it. Waiting months to a year for a right is nonsense. |
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My Oct 27th pending is still waiting on background.
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/424008/Untitled-605504.JPG Trust Form 1 times are looking good. Wish the F4 times would come on down. View Quote Who here had the last APPROVED Trust |
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"He should have killed me. I would have killed me."
For God and Country: Geronimo! Geronimo! Geronimo! Michael Moore: Trump’s election is going to be the biggest Fuck You ever recorded in human history….And it will feel good. |
Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:
http://www.armyparatrooper.org/dropzone/images/smilies/newsmilies/hmmm.gif Who here had the last APPROVED Trust View Quote |
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Looking at This Thread
Quintin seems to be It. Originally Posted By Quintin:
Form 4 trust, one RP, trust was done by NFAlawyers using their amendment form to temporarily remove the one RP Purchased 11/24/17 F3 from Hansohn Bros to my dealer, I received Silencer Shop's Docusign email for the F4 on 11/30/17 Check was cashed on 12/13/17 ATF contacted my dealer mid June saying that the amendment form was no good, dealer submitted correct amendment form Stamp arrived at dealer on 7/9/18 View Quote 7/9/18 227 Days or about 32 weeks. |
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"He should have killed me. I would have killed me."
For God and Country: Geronimo! Geronimo! Geronimo! Michael Moore: Trump’s election is going to be the biggest Fuck You ever recorded in human history….And it will feel good. |
I’ll complain....
I’ve had 4 form 1s for SBR or SBS approved over the past 8 months. I applied for a Form 4 Individual Form 1 through Silencer Shop on 11-28-17. Still not approved. Bullshit!!!!!!!!!!! |
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"I see dumb people... they're everywhere. They walk around like everyone else. They don't even know that they're dumb."
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Originally Posted By tonysoprano150:
I’ll complain.... I’ve had 4 form 1s for SBR or SBS approved over the past 8 months. I applied for a Form 4 Individual Form 1 through Silencer Shop on 11-28-17. Still not approved. Bullshit!!!!!!!!!!! View Quote Also I wonder why the 2 lines on a Form 1 Trust are present on the tracker? A line and B line. They both come together at C which is August - september of last year. I wonder what changed that? Attached File I wonder if group A examiners are dedicated Form 1 only workers and then Group B was moved from F4 to F1 to help with the influx or possibly new hires. At line C Group A finished their stack and started helping Group B Forum 1s or possibly that is when the Kiosk Form 1s started to kick in with the bar codes speeding up the process. |
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"He should have killed me. I would have killed me."
For God and Country: Geronimo! Geronimo! Geronimo! Michael Moore: Trump’s election is going to be the biggest Fuck You ever recorded in human history….And it will feel good. |
I sent in a Form 4 Individual last year (2017) and got it back in 162 days. I sent another Form 4 Individual in on March 5, 2018 and had my hopes up for a quick T/A again, until I read this thread. It now seems that Form 4's are a complete crap shoot regarding T/A, with no rhyme or reason. I've seen 150 days to 300 and counting. I've got 3 to submit this month for suppressors and feel pretty hopeless about when I'll actually get to see them again. This whole system blows. Form 1s seem to be trending down and Form 4s are black hole.
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Elections Have Consequences
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Thanks for the warning.
I'm planning on purchasing two more cans. I think I'll wait until the years end before buying them. HEY! Another Official Timeline thread! |
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"He should have killed me. I would have killed me."
For God and Country: Geronimo! Geronimo! Geronimo! Michael Moore: Trump’s election is going to be the biggest Fuck You ever recorded in human history….And it will feel good. |
Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:
If I'm Lucky I'm about half-Way there to my APPROVED Form 1. https://www.skipprichard.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Fingers-Crossed.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:
Thanks for the warning. I'm planning on purchasing two more cans. I think I'll wait until the years end before buying them. HEY! Another Official Timeline thread! View Quote |
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Form 1 APPROVED in 106 Total Days! Are things easing up?
In any case I sent my Newly Registered SBR Lower sent out for the "Makers" engraving. I should have it back in two weeks. |
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"He should have killed me. I would have killed me."
For God and Country: Geronimo! Geronimo! Geronimo! Michael Moore: Trump’s election is going to be the biggest Fuck You ever recorded in human history….And it will feel good. |
Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:
Form 1 APPROVED in 106 Total Days! Are things easing up? In any case I sent my Newly Registered SBR Lower sent out for the "Makers" engraving. I should have it back in two weeks. View Quote |
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Elections Have Consequences
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Originally Posted By bestiller:
Great news! Form 1s have been trending down to the 100 day mark. I wish Form 4s would follow. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By bestiller:
Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:
Form 1 APPROVED in 106 Total Days! Are things easing up? In any case I sent my Newly Registered SBR Lower sent out for the "Makers" engraving. I should have it back in two weeks. |
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"He should have killed me. I would have killed me."
For God and Country: Geronimo! Geronimo! Geronimo! Michael Moore: Trump’s election is going to be the biggest Fuck You ever recorded in human history….And it will feel good. |
Any theories on why Form 4's are taking so much longer than Form 1's?
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Originally Posted By bunnybunny:
Any theories on why Form 4's are taking so much longer than Form 1's? View Quote |
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Originally Posted By BigWaylon:
Not sure if it was this thread or not, and not in any way saying it's true...but somebody posted in the last month that an examiner (or vendor) at the NFA Division said they were pushing the Form 1s through so they could reintroduce eForms. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:
If that's the case cool, I just wonder how long it will last before the system crashes again. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:
Originally Posted By BigWaylon:
Not sure if it was this thread or not, and not in any way saying it's true...but somebody posted in the last month that an examiner (or vendor) at the NFA Division said they were pushing the Form 1s through so they could reintroduce eForms. |
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I'm very well acquainted with the seven deadly sins
I keep a busy schedule trying to fit them in - Warren Zevon, Mr. Bad Example, 1991 |
Not really a complaint but more of a curiosity.
I submitted 3 form 1's in April 2018 with the following dates as check cashed: 4/24, sent to an examiner on 7/19 but still not assigned to one yet as of 8/5. 5/2, approved 7/24, rec'd stamp 7/31 5/10, approved 7/27, rec'd stamp 8/3 All sent in via USPS with paper F1, same trust, 1 RP. Curious how my first F1 still hasn't been assigned to an examiner yet but the other two has already been approved with stamp in hand. |
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I was just looking at the NFA timeline thread and have a question.
Some posters stated that they filed using the Silencer Co kiosk and also posted the date the check was cashed. If you are doing everything via Silencer Does Silencer Co provide you with that info? Edited to say: I said Silencer Co, I meant Silencer Shop. |
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FTFTWFMF
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Doesn't mean that much to me, to mean that much to you.
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Originally Posted By TN-MadDog:
I was just looking at the NFA timeline thread and have a question. Some posters stated that they filed using the Silencer Co kiosk and also posted the date the check was cashed. If you are doing everything via Silencer Does Silencer Co provide you with that info? Edited to say: I said Silencer Co, I meant Silencer Shop. View Quote |
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Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:
They send a email saying the day it was cashed. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:
Originally Posted By TN-MadDog:
I was just looking at the NFA timeline thread and have a question. Some posters stated that they filed using the Silencer Co kiosk and also posted the date the check was cashed. If you are doing everything via Silencer Does Silencer Co provide you with that info? Edited to say: I said Silencer Co, I meant Silencer Shop. |
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FTFTWFMF
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Originally Posted By TN-MadDog: Thanks, I placed an order a few days ago and was wondering how it would work. View Quote |
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Form 4
M4-2000 SS Kiosk 10/10/17 Check Cashed 10/27/17 "Pending FBI Checks" Silencer Shop Trust w/ 3 RP This shit is ridiculous. |
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13 mo
& 12 mo, 2 wks so much for them having hired new examiners :( |
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Curious...for those that seem to be stuck in the BGC black hole, did you put your SSN on the FP cards?
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Originally Posted By BigWaylon:
Curious...for those that seem to be stuck in the BGC black hole, did you put your SSN on the FP cards? View Quote Check cashed exactly one year ago tomorrow. Been in BGC since late January/early February. |
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Doesn't mean that much to me, to mean that much to you.
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Originally Posted By swampvol: I honestly don't remember, but PSA helped fill out the forms so I'm betting I did as they tend to be very precise when dealing with the atf. Check cashed exactly one year ago tomorrow. Been in BGC since late January/early February. View Quote Reason I posted it is I was reading a discussion yesterday that said the ATF/FBI doesn't even run your prints. That's why the quality of the prints doesn't seem to matter. They simply input the info on the cards and run a NICS check...so the SSN being present should prevent most of the delays. |
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