Warning

 

Close

Confirm Action

Are you sure you wish to do this?

Confirm Cancel
BCM
User Panel

Page / 66
Link Posted: 6/15/2018 11:25:26 PM EDT
[#1]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:

I guesstimate 2 more months: August/September
View Quote
Yep I think your right. I will call again in a few weeks just to see.

It just amazes me how fast the F1 are coming in vs the F4.
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 8:23:51 PM EDT
[#2]
235 days. Still pending background. Gotta love it.
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 9:49:50 PM EDT
[#3]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By revottuneda4:
235 days. Still pending background. Gotta love it.
View Quote
Still pending BGC here too. I'm not far behind you at 225 days, and I feel your pain.
Link Posted: 6/18/2018 10:06:18 PM EDT
[Last Edit: swampvol] [#4]
Wednesday will be day 300 for me.

To make matters worse, I sent it out on July 2nd 2017 and they didn't cash the check until Aug. 24, a day after I called them and asked wtf?

They told me they hadn't received it. Yet, the very next day it magically appeared and got cashed.

So, technically, you could add another 52 days to that 300.
Link Posted: 6/20/2018 9:27:26 PM EDT
[#5]
Sent my form 4 on 3/11/2017. This sucks
Link Posted: 6/21/2018 9:00:14 PM EDT
[#6]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By jr1092:
Sent my form 4 on 3/11/2017. This sucks
View Quote
Now THAT I'd call and ask about.
Link Posted: 6/24/2018 10:24:25 AM EDT
[#7]
Link Posted: 6/27/2018 3:55:31 PM EDT
[#8]
This is sorta a complaint, even though I shouldn’t. I’m anxious. Form 4 individual

Mailed 1/20/18
Pending 1/28/18?(Who really knows)
Called yesterday and the lady said I have at least 8 months. I said you mean 8 months total and she replied no sir you have about 8 more months from today (6/26/18). She just said Recieved Form 4, 1/28/18 not a pending date or Nottin!!!!!
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 10:15:14 AM EDT
[#9]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By Komodoj815:
This is sorta a complaint, even though I shouldn’t. I’m anxious. Form 4 individual

Mailed 1/20/18
Pending 1/28/18?(Who really knows)
Called yesterday and the lady said I have at least 8 months. I said you mean 8 months total and she replied no sir you have about 8 more months from today (6/26/18). She just said Recieved Form 4, 1/28/18 not a pending date or Nottin!!!!!
View Quote
That can't be right.  Sure is frustrating though.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 10:32:33 AM EDT
[#10]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By m6z:

That can't be right.  Sure is frustrating though.
View Quote
That’s my thoughts as well. I think i just need a shoulder to cry on right now........ lol
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 5:15:39 PM EDT
[#11]
This whole process is so archaic that its borderline criminal.

There is absolutely zero reason for this. The NFA branch brought in roughly $68 Million in taxes in 2016. Sixty Eight fucking million, and we can't even get a form processed in a reasonable amount of time.

Every year that goes up, and every year they still fail to take serious effort to move into the 21st century with processing NFA forms and taxes.
Link Posted: 6/28/2018 7:14:29 PM EDT
[#12]
Currently my Estimates say about 31 weeks, 215 days.  So sent 1-20-2018 with about 31 weeks waiting says about August 20.
Link Posted: 7/2/2018 12:11:16 PM EDT
[#13]
Link Posted: 7/2/2018 1:25:48 PM EDT
[#14]
I wonder what is all involved in doing the “FBI” background process? They look for unpaid tickets? Jay walking? Missed Jury duty? Back Child support issues????
Link Posted: 7/2/2018 2:56:26 PM EDT
[Last Edit: swampfoxoutdoors] [#15]
Small complaint.

Had my 2 PBS-1 bought from Bunker tactical sent to my local FFL. Told the guy last week they would be delivered today and provided him with tracking. Sent another message to him on Saturday that the delivery would be Monday and got a auto response back saying they will be closed for the week of the forth.

So wondering if Fedex will hold the suppressors or if they will send them back to Bunker.

No human response back from the owner of the local FFL. Kinda pissed.

Also called and checked status of F4 MG and its still pending. Purchase date was Nov 20 17, check cash date was 1/23/18. Had high hopes that it might had been approved for my interdependence day present.
Link Posted: 7/5/2018 3:34:46 PM EDT
[#16]
More bullshit...

My Dec 16th 2017 pending has now been in "waiting on FBI background check" for about 2 weeks now... Here we go with a long ass wait some more.

I have a petty offense / misdemeanor from 10 years ago, but never get delayed or denied on firearms purchases, have other NFA items, and have a security clearance, but nooooo lets throw in some more bullshit wait because the gov is inefficient.

I should have just bought all the suppressors I'd ever wanted last year and been done with it. Waiting months to a year for a right is nonsense.
Link Posted: 7/5/2018 5:51:17 PM EDT
[#17]
My Oct 27th pending is still waiting on background.
Link Posted: 7/12/2018 4:01:32 PM EDT
[#18]
Attachment Attached File


Trust Form 1 times are looking good. Wish the F4 times would come on down.
Link Posted: 7/12/2018 6:11:03 PM EDT
[#19]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:
https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/424008/Untitled-605504.JPG

Trust Form 1 times are looking good. Wish the F4 times would come on down.
View Quote

Who here had the last APPROVED Trust
Link Posted: 7/12/2018 8:04:01 PM EDT
[#20]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:
http://www.armyparatrooper.org/dropzone/images/smilies/newsmilies/hmmm.gif
Who here had the last APPROVED Trust
View Quote
I wish it was me.
Link Posted: 7/12/2018 8:25:56 PM EDT
[#21]
Looking at This Thread
Quintin seems to be It.

Originally Posted By Quintin:
Form 4 trust, one RP, trust was done by NFAlawyers using their amendment form to temporarily remove the one RP
Purchased 11/24/17
F3 from Hansohn Bros to my dealer, I received Silencer Shop's Docusign email for the F4 on 11/30/17
Check was cashed on 12/13/17
ATF contacted my dealer mid June saying that the amendment form was no good, dealer submitted correct amendment form
Stamp arrived at dealer on 7/9/18
View Quote
11/24/17
7/9/18
227 Days or about 32 weeks.
Link Posted: 7/17/2018 10:26:47 AM EDT
[#22]
I’ll complain....

I’ve had 4 form 1s for SBR or SBS approved over the past 8 months.  I applied for a Form 4 Individual Form 1 through Silencer Shop on 11-28-17.  Still not approved.  Bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!
Link Posted: 7/17/2018 11:23:18 AM EDT
[Last Edit: swampfoxoutdoors] [#23]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By tonysoprano150:
I’ll complain....

I’ve had 4 form 1s for SBR or SBS approved over the past 8 months.  I applied for a Form 4 Individual Form 1 through Silencer Shop on 11-28-17.  Still not approved.  Bullshit!!!!!!!!!!!
View Quote
Kiosk or Doing your own paper work?

Also

I wonder why the 2 lines on a Form 1 Trust are present on the tracker?

A line and B line.

They both come together at C which is August - september of last year. I wonder what changed that?

Attachment Attached File


I wonder if group A examiners are dedicated Form 1 only workers and then Group B was moved from F4 to F1 to help with the influx or possibly new hires. At line C Group A finished their stack and started helping Group B Forum 1s or possibly that is when the Kiosk Form 1s started to kick in with the bar codes speeding up the process.
Link Posted: 7/20/2018 10:29:13 PM EDT
[#24]
If I'm Lucky I'm about half-Way there to my APPROVED Form 1.

Link Posted: 7/22/2018 2:47:17 PM EDT
[#25]
I sent in a Form 4 Individual last year (2017) and got it back in 162 days. I sent another Form 4 Individual in on March 5, 2018 and had my hopes up for a quick T/A again, until I read this thread. It now seems that Form 4's are a complete crap shoot regarding T/A, with no rhyme or reason. I've seen 150 days to 300 and counting. I've got 3 to submit this month for suppressors and feel pretty hopeless about when I'll actually get to see them again. This whole system blows. Form 1s seem to be trending down and Form 4s are black hole.
Link Posted: 7/22/2018 3:53:24 PM EDT
[#26]
Thanks for the warning.
I'm planning on purchasing two more cans.
I think I'll wait until the years end before buying them.

HEY!  Another Official Timeline thread!
Link Posted: 7/22/2018 4:11:38 PM EDT
[#27]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:
If I'm Lucky I'm about half-Way there to my APPROVED Form 1.

https://www.skipprichard.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Fingers-Crossed.jpg
View Quote
That's how I'm feeling, and I sent mine in October.
Link Posted: 7/22/2018 9:00:03 PM EDT
[#28]
Link Posted: 7/23/2018 10:28:14 AM EDT
[#29]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:
Thanks for the warning.
I'm planning on purchasing two more cans.
I think I'll wait until the years end before buying them.

HEY!  Another Official Timeline thread!
View Quote
Why wait until the end of the year?  Not likely to be better, and even if it is, you probably still wouldn’t make up the 5 months you lost by waiting.  Also, if the Dems win in November, expect bunch of people to start buying more.
Link Posted: 7/28/2018 6:34:58 PM EDT
[#30]
Form 1 APPROVED in 106 Total Days!  Are things easing up?

In any case I sent my Newly Registered SBR Lower sent out for the "Makers" engraving. I should have it back in two weeks.
Link Posted: 7/28/2018 6:43:10 PM EDT
[#31]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:
Form 1 APPROVED in 106 Total Days!  Are things easing up?

In any case I sent my Newly Registered SBR Lower sent out for the "Makers" engraving. I should have it back in two weeks.
View Quote
Great news! Form 1s have been trending down to the 100 day mark. I wish Form 4s would follow.
Link Posted: 7/28/2018 8:06:42 PM EDT
[#32]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By bestiller:
Great news! Form 1s have been trending down to the 100 day mark. I wish Form 4s would follow.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By bestiller:
Originally Posted By GiggleSmith:
Form 1 APPROVED in 106 Total Days!  Are things easing up?

In any case I sent my Newly Registered SBR Lower sent out for the "Makers" engraving. I should have it back in two weeks.
Great news! Form 1s have been trending down to the 100 day mark. I wish Form 4s would follow.
I still think ATF is spotty on approvals out-of-order... Have a F1 individual cashed early Dec 17 still not in, and know others still waiting from same period... Hope they do actually start speeding up, but first - please MAKE THEM CONSISTENT based on submission dates!!!!
Link Posted: 7/28/2018 9:40:27 PM EDT
[#33]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By bestiller:

Great news! Form 1s have been trending down to the 100 day mark. I wish Form 4s would follow.
View Quote
I figured the other day that every day that goes by there is .45 days shaved off the wait on a 3 month avg. Trust are more like .4 days.
Link Posted: 7/28/2018 9:58:52 PM EDT
[#34]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By bestiller:

Great news! Form 1s have been trending down to the 100 day mark. I wish Form 4s would follow.
View Quote
To paraphrase: From your lips to Uncle Trumps ears.
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 1:55:11 PM EDT
[#35]
Any theories on why Form 4's are taking so much longer than Form 1's?
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 3:11:30 PM EDT
[#36]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By bunnybunny:
Any theories on why Form 4's are taking so much longer than Form 1's?
View Quote
My guess is that the bottle neck is at the FBI. Dont know why tho.
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 11:07:20 PM EDT
[#37]
Link Posted: 7/31/2018 11:21:41 PM EDT
[#38]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By BigWaylon:

Not sure if it was this thread or not, and not in any way saying it's true...but somebody posted in the last month that an examiner (or vendor) at the NFA Division said they were pushing the Form 1s through so they could reintroduce eForms.
View Quote
If that’s the case cool, I just wonder how long it will last before the system crashes again.
Link Posted: 8/4/2018 4:24:20 AM EDT
[#39]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:
If that's the case cool, I just wonder how long it will last before the system crashes again.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:
Originally Posted By BigWaylon:

Not sure if it was this thread or not, and not in any way saying it's true...but somebody posted in the last month that an examiner (or vendor) at the NFA Division said they were pushing the Form 1s through so they could reintroduce eForms.
If that's the case cool, I just wonder how long it will last before the system crashes again.
With any luck, they'll implement a more robust eForm system this time. We can hope...
Link Posted: 8/6/2018 11:50:36 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Seattle206] [#40]
Not really a complaint but more of a curiosity.

I submitted 3 form 1's in April 2018 with the following dates as check cashed:

4/24, sent to an examiner on 7/19 but still not assigned to one yet as of 8/5.
5/2, approved 7/24, rec'd stamp 7/31
5/10, approved 7/27, rec'd stamp 8/3

All sent in via USPS with paper F1, same trust, 1 RP. Curious how my first F1 still hasn't been assigned to an examiner yet but the other two has already been approved with stamp in hand.
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 5:28:09 PM EDT
[Last Edit: TN-MadDog] [#41]
I was just looking at the NFA timeline thread and have a question.

Some posters stated that they filed using the Silencer Co kiosk and also posted the date the check was cashed.

If you are doing everything via Silencer Co Shop, how would you know the check was cashed?

Does Silencer Co provide you with that info?

Edited to say: I said Silencer Co, I meant Silencer Shop.
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 6:59:43 PM EDT
[#42]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By TN-MadDog:
Does Silencer Co provide you with that info?
View Quote
I believe they do.
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 10:06:33 PM EDT
[#43]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By TN-MadDog:
I was just looking at the NFA timeline thread and have a question.

Some posters stated that they filed using the Silencer Co kiosk and also posted the date the check was cashed.

If you are doing everything via Silencer Co Shop, how would you know the check was cashed?

Does Silencer Co provide you with that info?

Edited to say: I said Silencer Co, I meant Silencer Shop.
View Quote
They send a email saying the day it was cashed.
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 10:08:07 PM EDT
[#44]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:
They send a email saying the day it was cashed.
View Quote View All Quotes
View All Quotes
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By swampfoxoutdoors:
Originally Posted By TN-MadDog:
I was just looking at the NFA timeline thread and have a question.

Some posters stated that they filed using the Silencer Co kiosk and also posted the date the check was cashed.

If you are doing everything via Silencer Co Shop, how would you know the check was cashed?

Does Silencer Co provide you with that info?

Edited to say: I said Silencer Co, I meant Silencer Shop.
They send a email saying the day it was cashed.
Thanks, I placed an order a few days ago and was wondering how it would work.
Link Posted: 8/21/2018 10:11:04 PM EDT
[#45]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By TN-MadDog:

Thanks, I placed an order a few days ago and was wondering how it would work.
View Quote
 It will take a while. The last ones I did was like 30 days from purchasing to check cash. I think SS has said they bulk ship orders or something but upon the buyers request they will ship out as soon as the F3 clears.
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 12:03:19 AM EDT
[#46]
Form 4
M4-2000
SS Kiosk 10/10/17
Check Cashed 10/27/17
"Pending FBI Checks"

Silencer Shop Trust w/ 3 RP

This shit is ridiculous.
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 3:10:17 AM EDT
[#47]
13 mo
&
12 mo, 2 wks

so much for them having hired new examiners  :(
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 7:52:53 AM EDT
[#48]
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 9:16:46 AM EDT
[#49]
Discussion ForumsJump to Quoted PostQuote History
Originally Posted By BigWaylon:
Curious...for those that seem to be stuck in the BGC black hole, did you put your SSN on the FP cards?
View Quote
I honestly don't remember, but PSA helped fill out the forms so I'm betting I did as they tend to be very precise when dealing with the atf.

Check cashed exactly one year ago tomorrow. Been in BGC since late January/early February.
Link Posted: 8/22/2018 9:49:10 AM EDT
[Last Edit: BigWaylon] [#50]
Page / 66
Close Join Our Mail List to Stay Up To Date! Win a FREE Membership!

Sign up for the ARFCOM weekly newsletter and be entered to win a free ARFCOM membership. One new winner* is announced every week!

You will receive an email every Friday morning featuring the latest chatter from the hottest topics, breaking news surrounding legislation, as well as exclusive deals only available to ARFCOM email subscribers.


By signing up you agree to our User Agreement. *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win.
Top Top