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Posted: 2/16/2019 4:47:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Qweevox: Things move slow in the none GD sub forums, this is an old post now, but damn that's a beautiful rifle. |
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Posted: 2/16/2019 5:19:18 PM EDT
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Slo Mo video of me shooting my (2nd Model) Brown Bess musket:
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Posted: 2/16/2019 7:49:49 PM EDT
[Last Edit: firedog51d]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunCat:
Slo Mo video of me shooting my (2nd Model) Brown Bess musket:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnMXp5ZEfYs
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Posted: 2/16/2019 11:53:11 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Qweevox]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GIJoe: Shoots sweet as well. It's truly a magnificent rifle. Is this article about you and the rifle? https://wrightsmanflintlocks.wordpress.com/2017/12/23/ferguson-flintlock-rifle/#more-216 Did you do a thread about it somewhere? If so I'd like to read it. Edit to add: The Rifle Shoppe has a parts kit for $1695 or $1795 Who made the stock for you? Did you have the engravings done, or did the parts come engraved? Why didn't this design take off? I mean it was way ahead of it's time, and appears more advanced than many offerings from the mid-19th century. Damn, I really want one. |
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Posted: 2/18/2019 9:28:41 PM EDT
[Last Edit: GIJoe]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Qweevox: @GIJoe It's truly a magnificent rifle. Is this article about you and the rifle? https://wrightsmanflintlocks.wordpress.com/2017/12/23/ferguson-flintlock-rifle/#more-216 Did you do a thread about it somewhere? If so I'd like to read it. Edit to add: The Rifle Shoppe has a parts kit for $1695 or $1795 Who made the stock for you? Did you have the engravings done, or did the parts come engraved? Why didn't this design take off? I mean it was way ahead of it's time, and appears more advanced than many offerings from the mid-19th century. Damn, I really want one. Many reasons of how the design died as it did. Extremely expensive to make at the time, Old School tactics, etc. Good thing the Brits didn't realize what they had! Here are some pics of the parts as they come from TRS:  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Posted: 2/18/2019 10:47:50 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Qweevox]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GIJoe: Yes! That's my gun. No thread. Maybe I should have. The RS kits come with the roughed out stock. It's shaped and the lock area and barrel channels cut. Basic castings for the bit parts. There are some stampings on the lock, but the rest are Josh's work with my "vision". I passed pictures i had found, in particular the works of version built by Ders Egg. He penciled them up and sent them to me before he started. Many reasons of how the design died as it did. Extremely expensive to make at the time, Old School tactics, etc. Good thing the Brits didn't realize what they had! Here are some pics of the parts as they come from TRS: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/19077/20160429_210905_jpg-850416.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/19077/20160429_210947_jpg-850417.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/19077/20160429_211004_jpg-850418.JPG https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/19077/20170304_141510resize_jpg-850424.JPG I really want one, do you mind giving me a ballpark idea of how much a project like that would cost? |
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Posted: 2/23/2019 11:13:02 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Qweevox: Yeah, you needed to do a thread on that rifle. It make for great discussion. But it's a good thing that there is an article on the build. The builder did an great job on the stained wood and metal compliment each other so well. I love the engraving work, that really makes it. I bet the cost of that total project was fairly impressive. At least the rifle looks like it would have an exclusive price. I'm really want one, do you mind giving me a ballpark idea of how much a project like that would cost? |
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Posted: 2/27/2019 7:56:17 AM EDT
[Last Edit: Qweevox]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GIJoe: It is the most expensive rifle I own. for sure. Knocking on 3K if my calculations are right. That includes shipping the parts to him and shipping the finished rifle back in a crate. |
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Posted: 2/27/2019 4:08:20 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Solo_]
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Have a look at this shit and tell me it's not the best.
(Modern U.S. Bicentennial Society copy of The George Washington Flintlock Pistols, .54 cal., 8" brass barrels. These are hand crafted replicas of the pistols owned by George Washington (originals currently housed in the Museum at the West Point Military Academy). Made in 1976. 
George Washington's Flintlock Replicas by SoloDallas, on Flickr |
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Posted: 2/27/2019 5:16:17 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By SoloDallas:
Have a look at this shit and tell me it's not the best. (Modern U.S. Bicentennial Society copy of The George Washington Flintlock Pistols, .54 cal., 8" brass barrels. These are hand crafted replicas of the pistols owned by George Washington (originals currently housed in the Museum at the West Point Military Academy). Made in 1976. https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7867/47179086682_34cd9c249b_h.jpg George Washington's Flintlock Replicas by SoloDallas, on Flickr I was looking through IMA's site and found a pair of O/U pistols that I just fell in love with. If I could find a source to make repros I would just to have them. 
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Posted: 2/27/2019 5:17:21 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By JAD762: Those are beautiful. I was looking through IMA's site and found a pair of O/U pistols that I just fell in love with. If I could find a source to make repros I would just to have them. https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/1524/1342/products/on2445w__1_large.jpg?v=1505380932 |
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Posted: 4/1/2019 11:36:24 AM EDT
[Last Edit: pukindog]
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This is my 4th 1858 replica and first one with a brass frame. I posted it back on page 7 of this thread but after shooting it the past two weekends I tried out some brass polish after cleaning it.
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Posted: 4/4/2019 9:12:15 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pukindog:
This is my 4th 1858 replica and first one with a brass frame. I posted it back on page 7 of this thread but after shooting it the past two weekends I tried out some brass polish after cleaning it. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/116588/18584-033119B_jpg-897402.JPG |
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Posted: 4/4/2019 9:24:31 PM EDT
[Last Edit: Qweevox]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GIJoe:
It is the most expensive rifle I own. for sure. Knocking on 3K if my calculations are right. That includes shipping the parts to him and shipping the finished rifle back in a crate. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GIJoe:
Originally Posted By Qweevox: Yeah, you needed to do a thread on that rifle. It make for great discussion. But it's a good thing that there is an article on the build. The builder did an great job on the stained wood and metal compliment each other so well. I love the engraving work, that really makes it. I bet the cost of that total project was fairly impressive. At least the rifle looks like it would have an exclusive price. I'm really want one, do you mind giving me a ballpark idea of how much a project like that would cost? I came across this one that sold at auction for over $3163. In my opinion it's not as nice as yours. I like especially like the finish of your stock. https://www.rockislandauction.com/detail/1030/1158/ferguson-breech-loading-flintlock-rifle In any case, I thought you might find that interesting. I also thought this video was pretty cool.  Almost Revolutionary: Patrick Ferguson's Breechloading Rifle |
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Posted: 4/5/2019 8:09:52 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Qweevox: I know the brass frame on that gun isn't historically accurate, but it does look nice. Having a full frame I would imagine it'd hold up better than open top brass framed revolver. Have you noticed any stretch to it? |
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Posted: 7/4/2019 10:34:05 PM EDT
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why ruger stopped making these i will never know. would love to own one someday.
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Posted: 8/2/2019 10:20:27 PM EDT
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Not a muzzle loader, but definitely black powder.
1875 mfg Mk II Martini Henry in 577/450 Enfield mfg and sold to Nepal in 1895 One of my 577/450 hand loads for it. Cases are cut down and formed 24ga brass shotshells. 
And here's a video of me shooting it last winter  Martini Henry Please excuse the poor camera work, it was about -5 out and my frozen fingers had enough trouble just loading the gun, let alone getting my cell phone into landscape mode 
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Posted: 8/9/2019 7:11:08 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrozenWinter:
Not a muzzle loader, but definitely black powder. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/199178/IMG_20190101_155007_929-793820.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/199178/martinihenry-491903.jpg 1875 mfg Mk II Martini Henry in 577/450 Enfield mfg and sold to Nepal in 1895 One of my 577/450 hand loads for it. Cases are cut down and formed 24ga brass shotshells. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/199178/20181104_193359-731351.jpg And here's a video of me shooting it last winter https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a44zB_b2UfQ
Please excuse the poor camera work, it was about -5 out and my frozen fingers had enough trouble just loading the gun, let alone getting my cell phone into landscape mode 
J/K.....I need to post up pics of my MH. Mine is a 1879 mkIII send to Canada. They are fun to shoot but off the bench in a t shirt is one of my less smart moments. 
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Posted: 8/9/2019 7:28:36 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By firedog51d:
That video gave me vertigo!
J/K.....I need to post up pics of my MH. Mine is a 1879 mkIII send to Canada. They are fun to shoot but off the bench in a t shirt is one of my less smart moments. Took me awhile to get enough brass made up for it. I'd hate to think how many 24ga brass shot shells ive bunged up among the way
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Posted: 8/10/2019 6:41:37 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrozenWinter:
Ive only had mine out 4 or 5 times so far. Took me awhile to get enough brass made up for it. I'd hate to think how many 24ga brass shot shells ive bunged up among the way Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrozenWinter:
Originally Posted By firedog51d:
That video gave me vertigo!
J/K.....I need to post up pics of my MH. Mine is a 1879 mkIII send to Canada. They are fun to shoot but off the bench in a t shirt is one of my less smart moments. Took me awhile to get enough brass made up for it. I'd hate to think how many 24ga brass shot shells ive bunged up among the way |
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Posted: 8/10/2019 6:53:10 AM EDT
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@FrozenWinter
BTW, are you familiar with Rob..aka Britishmuzzleloaders on you tube? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiT6Bzz2SPs&list=PLkOVIw4NSWVLjm7lyFTgxk1ePSIF9QO3Y I really like his channel. Although, it looks like his first video on reloading for the MH has been deleted. Somewhere I have a link for reloading the carbine loads....lighter and cheaper load. I will dig it out and post it. |
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Posted: 8/10/2019 9:18:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By firedog51d:
@FrozenWinter BTW, are you familiar with Rob..aka Britishmuzzleloaders on you tube? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DiT6Bzz2SPs&list=PLkOVIw4NSWVLjm7lyFTgxk1ePSIF9QO3Y I really like his channel. Although, it looks like his first video on reloading for the MH has been deleted. Somewhere I have a link for reloading the carbine loads....lighter and cheaper load. I will dig it out and post it. Youtube has been removing some of his videos of late. IIRC he has moved some of them on a gun friendly video site. His videos as well as Iraqveteran8888 are the videos I watched to learn how to load for this. |
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Posted: 8/10/2019 9:18:33 AM EDT
[Last Edit: FrozenWinter]
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Double tap
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Posted: 8/10/2019 9:23:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By firedog51d:
LOL....I cheated and bought some loaded ammo and preformed brass. I also picked up a mold for it. As expensive as anything .577-450 is, I figured a mold would be a good investment. I've never cast anything before.....or reloaded. $5 a round has motivated me to try.
I want to get set up to cast for mine as the 480grn horse pills this thing throws are not the cheapest or easiest to find. What mold did you go with? |
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Posted: 8/11/2019 6:58:42 PM EDT
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I got a bit of a hook up on 20 rnd from teh guy I got the MH from. Still not cheap but better than retail.
IIRC the mold is from X-ring. I will check it and let you know. |
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Posted: 8/11/2019 11:57:38 PM EDT
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hickok45 just released a M-H video
 Martini-Henry Rifle CD |
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Posted: 8/21/2019 4:28:18 PM EDT
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I just received this yesterday afternoon - the snub-nosed Colt 1860 on the bottom. I have had the full-sized version for about 7 years.
From what little research I have done this is not an historically accurate replica and no such gun was ever made by the factory, but instead it is sort of a tribute to the cut-down versions people made for themselves in the 1870s. Of course they lost the front sight in doing that, but it was essentially a gut gun meant for close-up, can't miss work. Looking forward to shooting it this weekend if the weather doesn't stop me.  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/15/2019 11:12:54 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WildBoar]
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Finally, I can play too. You all have some sweet stuff. Hoping to catch up to some of you.
anyway. My new baby. Spent more than I originaly planned on, but I wanted not only a real one, but one I could shoot. 
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Posted: 9/16/2019 7:44:44 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WildBoar:
Finally, I can play too. You all have some sweet stuff. Hoping to catch up to some of you. anyway. My new baby. Spent more than I originaly planned on, but I wanted not only a real one, but one I could shoot. https://i.postimg.cc/0NJ15H2z/20190915-225850.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/0NHGncp0/20190915-225904.jpg Have you shot it yet? |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 9:22:04 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrozenWinter:
Beautiful rifle! Have you shot it yet? |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 9:23:11 AM EDT
[Last Edit: WildBoar]
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Dbl post
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Posted: 9/16/2019 10:00:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: WildBoar]
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Triple tap.post. sorry
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Posted: 9/16/2019 11:29:02 AM EDT
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@WildBoar
If you don't mind, about what did that run you? |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 3:57:46 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WildBoar]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By firedog51d:
@WildBoar If you don't mind, about what did that run you? The lock is made in Windsor Locks, Ct by WM Muir & Co. (they made 30,000 for the Army) but the barrel is actually made Savage Revolving Arms Co.(not related to Savage Arms) and surcharged to New Jersey for militia use during the war so the barrel probably never saw combat hence why the bore is so nice. The eagle proof is hard to read (these denote mfr as each used its own variation of an Eagle head). The Eagle head on mine is partly rubbed off but looks to be either a Norwich or Savage (they are really close wit Savage having a pupil in the eye of the Eagle). Since Savage was only one of 3 manufactures to arm NJ, I am putting my money on Savage due to the Eagle stamp and the NJ on the side of the barrel. Muir and Co never made rifles for New Jersey, only Colt, Savage and Trenton so the Muir lock or barrel was swapped during ts career. Possibly the stock as well as the cartouches are worn off. Good news for me though as I located an 1864 dated Savage Revolving Arms Co lock plate to put on there to make it more correct and later try and find a good condition Muir barrel. Though I have seen a few Muir locked rifles with Savage barrels (just not NJ marked) I could have gotten a more correct piece ie Norwich, lock, Norwich barrel and stock but that was a bit crustier than I wanted. Or even a Bridesburg but I do not mind the parts mix as I just wanted a good condition shooter from that era. If it were barreled without the NJ and had a Muir EAgle, it would go for quite a bit more I am sure. |
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Posted: 9/16/2019 9:15:55 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By WildBoar:
Actually not as much as I expected. $1400. While the gun is 100% 1864 manufactured (from what it appears so far), the lock and barrel are different manufacturers hence the price savings. The lock is made in Windsor Locks, Ct by WM Muir & Co. (they made 30,000 for the Army) but the barrel is actually made Savage Revolving Arms Co.(not related to Savage Arms) and surcharged to New Jersey for militia use during the war so the barrel probably never saw combat hence why the bore is so nice. The eagle proof is hard to read (these denote mfr as each used its own variation of an Eagle head). The Eagle head on mine is partly rubbed off but looks to be either a Norwich or Savage (they are really close wit Savage having a pupil in the eye of the Eagle). Since Savage was only one of 3 manufactures to arm NJ, I am putting my money on Savage due to the Eagle stamp and the NJ on the side of the barrel. Muir and Co never made rifles for New Jersey, only Colt, Savage and Trenton so the Muir lock or barrel was swapped during ts career. Possibly the stock as well as the cartouches are worn off. Good news for me though as I located an 1864 dated Savage Revolving Arms Co lock plate to put on there to make it more correct and later try and find a good condition Muir barrel. Though I have seen a few Muir locked rifles with Savage barrels (just not NJ marked) I could have gotten a more correct piece ie Norwich, lock, Norwich barrel and stock but that was a bit crustier than I wanted. Or even a Bridesburg but I do not mind the parts mix as I just wanted a good condition shooter from that era. If it were barreled without the NJ and had a Muir EAgle, it would go for quite a bit more I am sure. |
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Posted: 9/18/2019 9:56:43 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WildBoar]
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Not a full gun but it is part of a black powder gun that is going on my musket to have a more complete piece
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Posted: 9/27/2019 3:34:55 AM EDT
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My new baby, holster made by an ARFCOM member.
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Posted: 9/27/2019 1:55:51 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WildBoar]
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Sweet. Both holster and pistol. I have to stop watching this thread as it adds to my want list and I have shitty willpower
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Posted: 11/2/2019 10:44:05 PM EDT
[Last Edit: WildBoar]
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5th Model Burnside Carbine made in 1864 I will try to get bore pics but its damn near perfect in the bore.
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Posted: 11/6/2019 8:09:53 PM EDT
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Experimenting with different charge weights of Olde Eynsford to improve accuracy.
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Posted: 12/12/2019 10:43:10 AM EDT
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All of my black powder revolvers in one place. I may buy another at some point if I come across something I do not already have.
Friends who have shot them are mostly like "meh.." especially after they witness the loading process, but for some strange reason I do enjoy shooting them.  Attached File |
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Posted: 1/11/2020 7:25:13 PM EDT
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Added a revolver the other day since it was one of the few at Cabelas's I did not already have - a Pietta Pepper Box. Essentially the same as the 1851 above it except with an extended cylinder. it fires directly from the chambers in the cylinder. I have not figured out yet what I will use to load it since it does not have a loading lever and unike the short 1860 in my post above it did not come with a tool.
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Posted: 1/14/2020 11:06:44 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By pukindog:
Added a revolver the other day since it was one of the few at Cabelas's I did not already have - a Pietta Pepper Box. Essentially the same as the 1851 above it except with an extended cylinder. it fires directly from the chambers in the cylinder. I have not figured out yet what I will use to load it since it does not have a loading lever and unike the short 1860 in my post above it did not come with a tool. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/116588/PEPPERB-010820E_jpg-1230443.JPG That might do it. Otherwise, something like this would do the trick. 
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Posted: 1/18/2020 12:50:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: pukindog]
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By FrozenWinter:
If nothing else maybe pick up a short starter That might do it. Otherwise, something like this would do the trick. http://www.curtrich.com/zBaylor14_0216loading640.jpg So here is what I ended up doing: I found a long plastic (possibly Delrin) screw that is designed to hold a commode seat on, then used a Dremel Tool and knife to remove the threads and put a somewhat concave face in it. I then used it with a rubber mallet and it seems to have worked fine.  Attached File Attached FileUnfortunately it is raining again today as it has done since I got this, so no range trip until at least next weekend. 
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Posted: 2/28/2020 8:24:39 PM EDT
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Not mine, but I get to shoot them a lot. Gun with the flash visible is a 5 ounce BP charge and the other one is 8 ounces. They are both 3 inch ordinance guns (rifled). The one with the flash is an original 1861 made gun that has been partially bored out for conversion to a breach-loaded gun (which thankfully never happened). The reason we used a smaller charge was because we were having problems that weekend getting the 8-ounce charges over the lip left over near the breach from the boring.
Always a fun time!  Attached File |
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Posted: 4/1/2020 4:43:28 AM EDT
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Posted: 4/3/2020 7:44:11 AM EDT
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.50 caliber Kibler gun I just finished getting together:
    
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Posted: 4/3/2020 8:09:50 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunCat: .50 caliber Kibler gun I just finished getting together: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/31644/87C7A554-F3B2-49AE-9B90-43C099EF6F63-1348161.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/31644/A7F63BFE-C2A6-49B1-B915-FA28343F5E20-1348162.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/31644/F8348E0C-F34F-47FD-80A9-796F2E416427-1348163.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/31644/0B8C97A9-A6EB-46E4-9E72-898019ED8998-1348164.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/31644/50AF653E-BF49-401D-B353-CE03C51DCB7C-1348165.jpg 
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Posted: 4/7/2020 1:50:20 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By GunCat: .50 caliber Kibler gun I just finished getting together: https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/31644/87C7A554-F3B2-49AE-9B90-43C099EF6F63-1348161.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/31644/A7F63BFE-C2A6-49B1-B915-FA28343F5E20-1348162.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/31644/F8348E0C-F34F-47FD-80A9-796F2E416427-1348163.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/31644/0B8C97A9-A6EB-46E4-9E72-898019ED8998-1348164.jpg https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/31644/50AF653E-BF49-401D-B353-CE03C51DCB7C-1348165.jpg Beautiful looking wood. I've been kicking around doing one of his .36 cal kits |
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Posted: 5/6/2020 12:13:57 PM EDT
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.40 cal flintlock Southern Mt Rifle from Jim Kibler kit
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