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Posted: 9/12/2017 5:49:35 PM EDT
Another member here is selling some rifles which I have interest in and neither of us know all that much in these areas, we are trying to come up with a rough value for each.
I have some initial pictures handy, and should be able to get more, does anything jump out here? What else will be needed for a proper determination?  Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached FileSpanish Mauser maybe? 
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Posted: 9/12/2017 9:30:28 PM EDT
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Three things that will determine value are matching numbers, bore condition, and if there are import marks.
Rough value Carcano - $200, more if finnish marked Enfield Jungle carbine - $400 - 500 Sporterized mauser - $100 |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 10:06:15 PM EDT
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The Carcano is a Model 1938 7.35mm Finnish. It's missing the upper hand guard/band. Stock looks to be sanded?
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Posted: 9/12/2017 10:10:33 PM EDT
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The Carcano is a Model 1938 7.35mm Finnish. It's missing the upper hand guard/band. Stock looks to be sanded? Also the finish on the Enfield looks different to me. ETA: So, the Carcano isn't Italian? |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 10:29:36 PM EDT
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That was my fear. Also the finish on the Enfield looks different to me. ETA: So, the Carcano isn't Italian? Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Carcano is a Model 1938 7.35mm Finnish. It's missing the upper hand guard/band. Stock looks to be sanded? Also the finish on the Enfield looks different to me. ETA: So, the Carcano isn't Italian?  Attached File |
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Posted: 9/12/2017 10:40:30 PM EDT
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Enfield looks like mine, I can't imagine the importer wasted the time refinishing stocks https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/27868/IMG_20161218_105545-306210.JPG Quote HistoryQuoted:
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The Carcano is a Model 1938 7.35mm Finnish. It's missing the upper hand guard/band. Stock looks to be sanded? Also the finish on the Enfield looks different to me. ETA: So, the Carcano isn't Italian? https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/27868/IMG_20161218_105545-306210.JPG Don't know much on the Carcano or the oddball Mauser (I can tell you its not German....  )
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Posted: 9/13/2017 5:00:06 AM EDT
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That was my fear. Also the finish on the Enfield looks different to me. ETA: So, the Carcano isn't Italian? |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 8:08:08 AM EDT
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If the Carcano is not in 6.5 it is going to be something that is going to be a bit rough to shoot. 7.35 carcano is even more of an odd duck then the 6.5 is. You are going to have to pretty much reload for it if you want to shoot it. And it does not use a "normal" 30 cal bullet just like the 6.5 does not use a normal 264 bullet. The carcano in 6.5 wants 268 and the 7.35 wants right at 300....they had to be different.
Italy right before WWII (like most) wanted to change their cartridge...and like most did not want to change in the middle of the war, so the 735 flavors are not as common as the 6mm are. Just a bit more info, but I would say it should fetch a tad more then a "normal" Carcano...not much more as it has a few issues, but 7.35 is an odd duck. |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 8:28:26 AM EDT
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No. 5 was born in Liverpool.
ROF F, means Royal Ordnance Factory, Fazakerley Got a No.4 "shotgun" made there a year or so earlier ETA Very NOT interested in Italian Carcano rifles But - FINNISH ISSUE? Ship it over to me for some serious tlc & restoration... |
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Posted: 9/13/2017 10:28:42 AM EDT
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Lots of fake Jungle Carbines out there. Read up on them. Many were cobbled together well after the war for the collector market. One of those is worth much less than a real one.
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Posted: 9/14/2017 12:23:46 PM EDT
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Bolt knob is hollowed, and the numbers match. The rear sight is graduated to 800m also.
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Posted: 9/14/2017 3:50:11 PM EDT
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Lots of fake Jungle Carbines out there. Read up on them. Many were cobbled together well after the war for the collector market. One of those is worth much less than a real one. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 4:40:06 PM EDT
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No, that Enfield in Sputniks post was definitely slathered with something...but that's no biggie, you can strip that off, and re-finish with BLO...I would check the Jungle Carbine for these...the sight should be gradiuated to 800 yds, if its graduated out to 1000, its a rifle sight...the bolt handle knob must be hollowed out, if not, its a rifle bolt. The trigger guard ahead of the mag well opening should be "waisted"...nice early fore-end, no metal protector on the front tip... Don't know much on the Carcano or the oddball Mauser (I can tell you its not German.... )How involved would fixing the stock be? I'm looking to make an offer, but the stock is the biggest hang-up for me currently. Finding out more about the bore now. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 4:52:23 PM EDT
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@98kGuy How involved would fixing the stock be? I'm looking to make an offer, but the stock is the biggest hang-up for me currently. Finding out more about the bore now. Offer $450, but make him include the couch, since its in the picture. |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 8:35:24 PM EDT
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@98kGuy How involved would fixing the stock be? I'm looking to make an offer, but the stock is the biggest hang-up for me currently. Finding out more about the bore now. Make sure you check on the rear sight (should be graduated to 800 yards only) and the bolt handle ball, it should be hollow for a Jungle... There are other things to check, light lightening flutes under to wood on the barrel, and of course the flash hider...but if the sight and bolt are correct, that's a pretty good sign... I'd offer $350-$400 myself, you can always come up... ETA Shit, didn't see your previous post...so with the correct bolt and sight, I think it should be good... |
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Posted: 9/14/2017 8:51:49 PM EDT
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that model carcano there are more finnish marked ones than not
it is one of the few that a non finnish stamped rifle will be valued slightly higher still a modestly value firearm. 7.35 isnt the easiest to source |
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