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Posted: 9/1/2010 1:59:50 PM EDT
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The feedback from folks who have them and use them is outstanding. Well worth the money.
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Posted: 9/1/2010 2:00:47 PM EDT
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The feedback from folks who have them and use them is outstanding. Well worth the money.
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Posted: 9/1/2010 2:07:42 PM EDT
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I see that (I see that), but (but) - an $80 trigger on a $70 gun?
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Posted: 9/1/2010 2:40:21 PM EDT
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I see that (I see that), but (but) - an $80 trigger on a $70 gun? Pardon the DT Yeah, kinda ruins the point of buying an inexpensive, surplus arm. |
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Posted: 9/1/2010 2:46:13 PM EDT
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For me it does. Trigger or another M44 . . . .
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Posted: 9/1/2010 3:40:54 PM EDT
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So the rifle costs $80 and the ammo comes from a tin that was buried in a field somewhere in Romania since 1945 yet you are going to put an $80 trigger on it??? MMMM_kay....
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Posted: 9/1/2010 6:16:23 PM EDT
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I'm not understanding how replacing parts on an antique anything increases it's value unless it is maybe to bring it into working condition...
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Posted: 9/1/2010 6:32:55 PM EDT
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It's not like you are doing something to the rifle that can't just as easily be undone.
Take the trigger out and sell it separately when liquidating. You can probably easily get $50 used for it when you unload it, so it's really a $30 trigger. |
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Posted: 9/1/2010 6:57:27 PM EDT
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A mosin is like any other surplus gun. If you take a gun you could sell for 80 dollars and add an 80 dollar part to it, you still only have a rifle you could sell for 80 dollars.
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Posted: 9/1/2010 7:31:07 PM EDT
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I understand what you guys are saying about this trigger on a run of the mill MN, but what if that trigger was put on a Model 39 or a MN sniper?
I would love to have one on my 39! |
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Posted: 9/1/2010 7:56:57 PM EDT
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That trigger to me would be pointless. If you want a better trigger buy a different firearm.
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Posted: 9/2/2010 1:18:26 AM EDT
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I'm not understanding how replacing parts on an antique anything increases it's value unless it is maybe to bring it into working condition... <Sarcasm> 
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Posted: 9/2/2010 1:59:18 AM EDT
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For me it does. Trigger or another M44 . . . . Today at a gun shop, I watched a guy pay $239 + tax for a not-even-that-nice Model 44. |
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Posted: 9/2/2010 2:26:02 AM EDT
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Quoted: So the rifle costs $80 and the ammo comes from a tin that was buried in a field somewhere in Romania since 1945 yet you are going to put an $80 trigger on it??? MMMM_kay.... _ No shit. Dumbest idea ever. |
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Posted: 9/2/2010 2:43:58 AM EDT
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For me it does. Trigger or another M44 . . . . Today at a gun shop, I watched a guy pay $239 + tax for a not-even-that-nice Model 44. OMG - lot's to be said for a C&R I guess. |
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Posted: 9/2/2010 3:35:04 AM EDT
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I understand what you guys are saying about this trigger on a run of the mill MN, but what if that trigger was put on a Model 39 or a MN sniper? I would love to have one on my 39! The Finns modified the triggers for use on their rifles. The triggers on my M39's are pretty good the way they are. My 91/30 sniper that never underwent refurbishment has a the Soviet modified trigger on it and that trigger is pretty good too. "Ex snipers" do have the run of the mill triggers on them as they were refurbished and no one really cared about leaving the original triggers in them. There is a simple way to improve trigger pull on a MN, but the adjustment is touchy and a little too much will make it a dangerous rifle that can actually fire as you drive the bolt home. If you are determined to improve trigger pull a Timney trigger may be just the thing you want. |
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Posted: 9/2/2010 4:32:15 AM EDT
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Quoted: Yeah but maybe it had a Timney trigger on it....Quoted: For me it does. Trigger or another M44 . . . . Today at a gun shop, I watched a guy pay $239 + tax for a not-even-that-nice Model 44. |
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Posted: 9/2/2010 6:51:27 AM EDT
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Be honest - who takes their Mosin to the range and actually fires more than about 20-40 rounds before they give up and switch to a rifle that doesn't just kick the piss out of you?
You'd have to be a real masochist to settle down with a Mosin for an extended range session where a good, learnable trigger would even be a benefit. |
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Posted: 9/2/2010 8:20:41 AM EDT
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$80 rifle + $80 trigger= $75 used rifle in the end
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Posted: 9/2/2010 9:18:49 AM EDT
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If the mosin action was a decent action for a custom rifle, then, maybe, this would be a valuable item... Heck, I'm sure there are plenty of Mosin actions out there with shot out barrels or no stock, etc.
But the fact is that it is a sucky action, so all bets are off. - AG |
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Posted: 9/2/2010 9:37:50 AM EDT
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i could see using it on a sniper varient. 450+80 triger
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Posted: 9/2/2010 12:54:33 PM EDT
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An M39 shouldn't need another trigger. All others do.
Think about it guys do all this stuff to a Mosin and we have a hunting rifle we can still buy $10.00/bx hunting ammo for.
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Posted: 9/2/2010 5:59:26 PM EDT
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Be honest - who takes their Mosin to the range and actually fires more than about 20-40 rounds before they give up and switch to a rifle that doesn't just kick the piss out of you?
You'd have to be a real masochist to settle down with a Mosin for an extended range session where a good, learnable trigger would even be a benefit. I guess I'm just sick n the head, or a glutton for punishment. I'll sit and shoot mine all afternoon. Usually 100 or so rounds in a session. Most of them 174 grn handloads that kick the crap out of me. It's still easier on the shoulder than my brother's Remy 700 in .30-06. 20 rounds thru it and I'm done for the day.
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Posted: 9/2/2010 6:55:18 PM EDT
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I don't think that the Mosin is that bad for recoil. My Yugo Mauser with 198gr Yugo surplus is a kicker. To each his own.
I can't see buying the Huber trigger. If you are clever enough to install it, then you should be clever enough to clean and/or stone the trigger that you have to start with. I have only handled 3 Mosins and all three were very gritty. Does it change the sear engagement? Does the bolt body still move up with the Huber? |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 9:05:52 AM EDT
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An M39 shouldn't need another trigger. All others do. Think about it guys do all this stuff to a Mosin and we have a hunting rifle we can still buy $10.00/bx hunting ammo for. Not for me.... to damn heavy!! and kicks like a mule....ok for the younger guys, maybe 
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Posted: 9/3/2010 10:43:54 AM EDT
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Quoted: $80 rifle + $80 trigger= $75 used rifle in the end While I wholly agree with your math, who amongst us hasn't done this? How many "tricked-out" 10/22s do you see for sale where the owner thinks it is worth all the money he sank into it? How many tricked-out ARs? Do whatever makes you happy, even if that is putting an $80 trigger into a $80 rifle. 
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Posted: 9/3/2010 12:21:23 PM EDT
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It is your Mosin, do to it what you want
 The "Collectors" on this forum may have a few things to say about it I have seen one at the local gunshow that someone took a torch to the wood and made "tiger stripes" It turned out looking pretty good.
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Posted: 9/3/2010 3:09:37 PM EDT
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Quoted: It is your Mosin, do to it what you want The "Collectors" on this forum may have a few things to say about it I have seen one at the local gunshow that someone took a torch to the wood and made "tiger stripes" It turned out looking pretty good.Exactly do what you want every generation has it's fudd converters that think there is an unlimited supply of cheap "surplus" rifles.  They come so cheap and are in such an endless supply why worry about the history...  There will never be a time when these cheap rifles will be a scarce example of dissapearing history....  So Fudd away and don't worry about tomorrow...   |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 3:54:21 PM EDT
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I haven't worked my way through my 91/30's yet, But for a 38 that I have I could see this being a big plus. It is one sweet shooting rifle.
Thanks for the heads up Steve |
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Posted: 9/3/2010 6:39:39 PM EDT
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It's not just about dollars and cents for some people. While some of you guys are scoffing at the "sucky" Mosin some of us are having fun shooting them and getting very good results. A timney trigger will only improve it. In the meantime y'all can spend $160 on a flashlight mount for your "zombie" rifle...
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Posted: 9/3/2010 10:39:23 PM EDT
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Quoted: It's not just about dollars and cents for some people. While some of you guys are scoffing at the "sucky" Mosin some of us are having fun shooting them and getting very good results. A timney trigger will only improve it. In the meantime y'all can spend $160 on a flashlight mount for your "zombie" rifle... I really like my "sucky" Mosins, especially my M38. That doesn't mean I'm willing to spend the cost of the rifle on a match trigger, for a rifle which was never intended to be match worthy. A Mosin was made to be abused, and keep working. It's something you might have to take a boot heel to, to jack open the action at some point. It's a rifle you'd buttstroke someone with; or drop in the mud, and barely wipe off. It's not something I'd shoot for groups with. |
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Posted: 9/4/2010 5:51:33 AM EDT
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Good for the people who can, I guess, but I just cannot modify history. I was born without that gene
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Posted: 9/4/2010 10:19:04 AM EDT
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Good for the people who can, I guess, but I just cannot modify history. I was born without that gene |
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Posted: 9/6/2010 5:29:56 AM EDT
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Good for the people who can, I guess, but I just cannot modify history. I was born without that gene It's a drop-in trigger that doesn't modify the host rifle.... |
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Posted: 9/6/2010 5:33:35 AM EDT
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It's not just about dollars and cents for some people. While some of you guys are scoffing at the "sucky" Mosin some of us are having fun shooting them and getting very good results. A timney trigger will only improve it. In the meantime y'all can spend $160 on a flashlight mount for your "zombie" rifle... I really like my "sucky" Mosins, especially my M38. That doesn't mean I'm willing to spend the cost of the rifle on a match trigger, for a rifle which was never intended to be match worthy. A Mosin was made to be abused, and keep working. It's something you might have to take a boot heel to, to jack open the action at some point. It's a rifle you'd buttstroke someone with; or drop in the mud, and barely wipe off. It's not something I'd shoot for groups with. There are far better MNs out there than the M38, many of which could be shot for groups. This trigger might help said groups, in the right rifle. |
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Posted: 9/6/2010 6:32:40 AM EDT
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Quoted: Quoted: Quoted: It's not just about dollars and cents for some people. While some of you guys are scoffing at the "sucky" Mosin some of us are having fun shooting them and getting very good results. A timney trigger will only improve it. In the meantime y'all can spend $160 on a flashlight mount for your "zombie" rifle... I really like my "sucky" Mosins, especially my M38. That doesn't mean I'm willing to spend the cost of the rifle on a match trigger, for a rifle which was never intended to be match worthy. A Mosin was made to be abused, and keep working. It's something you might have to take a boot heel to, to jack open the action at some point. It's a rifle you'd buttstroke someone with; or drop in the mud, and barely wipe off. It's not something I'd shoot for groups with. There are far better MNs out there than the M38, many of which could be shot for groups. This trigger might help said groups, in the right rifle. I realize that. The Finnish Mosins can be quite accurate. I still wouldn't put an $80 trigger in a surplus rifle. Just my opinion...It's worth what you paid for it. |
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Posted: 9/6/2010 9:37:43 AM EDT
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It's not just about dollars and cents for some people. While some of you guys are scoffing at the "sucky" Mosin some of us are having fun shooting them and getting very good results. A timney trigger will only improve it. In the meantime y'all can spend $160 on a flashlight mount for your "zombie" rifle... I really like my "sucky" Mosins, especially my M38. That doesn't mean I'm willing to spend the cost of the rifle on a match trigger, for a rifle which was never intended to be match worthy. A Mosin was made to be abused, and keep working. It's something you might have to take a boot heel to, to jack open the action at some point. It's a rifle you'd buttstroke someone with; or drop in the mud, and barely wipe off. It's not something I'd shoot for groups with. Suit yourself. But it's far from the "dumbest idea ever" to do so. Why the price of a rifle relates its potential for improvement I'm not sure. If you can't or don't care to make your Mosin shoot, too bad. But some can and do, and a good aftermarket trigger is a cool idea. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 3:43:07 PM EDT
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I'm not understanding how replacing parts on an antique anything increases it's value unless it is maybe to bring it into working condition... I was thinking the same thing. |
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Posted: 9/8/2010 7:05:40 PM EDT
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the trigger on my m44 is absolutely horrible. Ill probably pick one up.
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Posted: 9/9/2010 4:15:04 AM EDT
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It's not just about dollars and cents for some people. While some of you guys are scoffing at the "sucky" Mosin some of us are having fun shooting them and getting very good results. A timney trigger will only improve it. In the meantime y'all can spend $160 on a flashlight mount for your "zombie" rifle... I really like my "sucky" Mosins, especially my M38. That doesn't mean I'm willing to spend the cost of the rifle on a match trigger, for a rifle which was never intended to be match worthy. A Mosin was made to be abused, and keep working. It's something you might have to take a boot heel to, to jack open the action at some point. It's a rifle you'd buttstroke someone with; or drop in the mud, and barely wipe off. It's not something I'd shoot for groups with. There are far better MNs out there than the M38, many of which could be shot for groups. This trigger might help said groups, in the right rifle. I realize that. The Finnish Mosins can be quite accurate. I still wouldn't put an $80 trigger in a surplus rifle. Just my opinion...It's worth what you paid for it. Granted. Of course, the real trick is finding a MN that is worthy of a trigger upgrade that doesn't already have a pretty good trigger. Of mine, the only one I can really think of is an original Russian M91 in really good shape that has a really heavy trigger. If she proves she'll shoot, I might invest on one to improve it's shooting characteristics. |
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