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Posted: 1/27/2006 2:00:31 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/11/2006 12:35:09 PM EDT by Magurgle]
A friend of mine shot one reciently andwants one, now he has got me wnating one. Anyone have on, any recomendations, should I avpid it all together. I have wanted one for a long time but my friend has me really wanting one.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 4:31:50 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/27/2006 4:32:07 AM EDT by Will-Rogers]
A Nagant is the 7.62 revolver of Belgian design.

A Mosin-Nagant is a carbine or rifle.

Of which are you speaking?
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 5:58:37 AM EDT
If you are talking about the Mosin-Nagant rifles, yes they are good rifles and the ammo is cheap.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 11:38:42 AM EDT
I was talking about the mosin-nagant rifle. I knew they were good rifles way back when, I just didn't know if there were still good ones to be found.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 11:43:14 AM EDT
I got my MN 91/30 from Big 5 Sporting goods for $85. when i took it out to shoot it for the first time i set up some milk jugs at about 75 yards.

5 shots,........5 Dead milk jugs.

they are great rifles and very accurate for the price. Get one.

Better yet, get 2!
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 12:04:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/27/2006 12:05:48 PM EDT by MauserMark]
the 91/30s are better for practice plinking, the 38's and 44's are good for showing off

My 91/30 gets all of the shooting when it comes to range plinking, the M38 is when we're blowing stuff up at our private range and we wanna get some big fireballs on film.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 1:14:42 PM EDT
Good Mosin's are still around. I picked up this M44 Russian Mosin-Nagant about 3 weeks ago. It came from Century Arms.



The shadows take away from the rifles appearance. The thing has been rearsenaled I believe but looks practically brand new.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 2:08:08 PM EDT
91/59's are great guns and highly collectable, you really dont see them around so that should tell you about their scarcity. supposed to be one of the more accurate mosins also. get them here

http://www.allans-armory.com/aaresult.asp?PageId=51

finn m39's are supposed to be the most accurate of the mosins and they are also highly collectable. you can get them here shipped to your house without any kind of licence.

http://www.gunsnammo.com/

these 2 variants im reccomending may cost you a little more than your run of the mill m38, m44 or 91/30 but from an accuracy and collectors standpoint you'd be far ahead of your buddies corner drugstore mosin. just my 2 pennies
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 2:43:40 PM EDT
I agree with all previous posts about getting a Mosin-Nagant. I bought one from Big 5 way back when on there Doorbuster sale, and just recently picked up a bubba'd M44 from the gun show as a truck gun. Big 5 was a 1943 receiver brought up and remarked as a 91/59, and still looks brand new. Truck gun was a 1946 marked receiver, and looked to be a decent shooter. Now here's the kicker: I paid the same price for both, just several years apart: $50. I didn't have any idea that the 91/59s were a lot more desirable. That just makes me even happier with mine. Buy at least one while you still can.
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 8:19:18 PM EDT
You want to know about Mosin-Nagant rifles? Go here www.russian-mosin-nagant.com I own a Finnish M91/30 and a Russian M44. I like the Finnish rifles personally, most were captured and re-barreled with either Tikka or Sako barrels. As for the M59’s they were made from the M91/30 and put on a M44 stock. This would be my last pick of all the Mosin-Nagants.
If you want a rifle, get a M91/30. If you want a carbine that spits fire get a M44. have
Joe
Link Posted: 1/27/2006 10:24:47 PM EDT
$69 from AIM, cant go wrong....

Link Posted: 1/28/2006 5:18:16 AM EDT
the 59's were made from cut down 91/30's but he stocks are from the 91/30's also, the handguards were cut down to size.
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 7:46:23 AM EDT
Ditto on all the good things on Mosin Nagant rifles. When you do buy, be sure it comes with all the goodies like the bayonet (the M44 has one attached), tool kit, dog collar sling, etc. If you are going to be mainly shooting on 100yd ranges or less, get the M44 or 38, as they will shoot to POA at 100 yds, as opposed to the 91/30 POI at about 1 foot high. I have a Polish M44 that is a really tight shooting gun even with cheap surplus silvetip ammo.
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 6:05:16 PM EDT
Buying a Mosin Nagant is a damn good way to go. Personally I like my M44 more then my M39 and 91/30, due to how its weight is balanced, but you cant go wrong with the other types. If you want more of a long distance/hunter version, pickup the 91/30. If possible find a Sniper Grade one, though that may be a bit tough.

Ammo is plentiful and is still in production with Russian military, and also commercially. Wolf makes some.

Recoil is fierce, but Ive sat down and shot 75 rounds in one sitting at the range without a recoil pad. The bruise was horrible for awhile, but also a badge of honor. Although my girlfriend didnt like me having a huge bruise, so to appease the almighy one (her), Ive thrown a recoil pad on.

The Mosins also have alot of history behind them, who knows you could pickup a 91/30 that was used in Stalingrad. You never know.

All in all +1 for Mosin Nagants.
Link Posted: 1/28/2006 8:58:45 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 1/28/2006 9:01:19 PM EDT by MauserMark]
the 91/30's have a much better chance of having history behind them.

except mine won't fit in the safe.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 12:14:33 PM EDT

Originally Posted By MauserMark:
the 91/30's have a much better chance of having history behind them.

except mine won't fit in the safe.


With the bayonet attached mine will barely fit through the door! My 91 30 leans against my safe. It won't fit inside, just because the safe is full. Time for another safe!
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 3:24:27 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 4:55:58 PM EDT
I picked up a M91/30 and a M38 yesterday that I had on layaway at a local shop.


They had the nerve to have another M91/30 on the rack.


It's not there anymore.




Link Posted: 1/29/2006 7:39:51 PM EDT
Easiest Finn to find would be either a M91 with an SA stamp on the barrel or the M39. The other Finns are luck of the draw. The M39 is one accurate rifle. It will shoot with any Mauser of '03 Springfield out there.
Link Posted: 1/29/2006 8:39:01 PM EDT
It's be hard to go wrong with a 91/30. You should be able to find a good one for under $100 or just over for something like an ex-Dragoon or a hex reciever.

If you keep your eye on Dunham's, they often have M44s on sale for under $100, as well.

Where abouts in OH are you? There is a small gunstore in Gibsonberg that has some of the nicest M44s I've seen for $85, lat I was in there.


Link Posted: 1/30/2006 2:59:26 AM EDT
m39s were tested for accuracy before being issued to troops, minimum accuracy requirement was 1.5" at 150 meters. thats awesome with open sights, they are real tack drivers
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 1:59:29 AM EDT

Originally Posted By tep0583:
It's be hard to go wrong with a 91/30. You should be able to find a good one for under $100 or just over for something like an ex-Dragoon or a hex reciever.

If you keep your eye on Dunham's, they often have M44s on sale for under $100, as well.

Where abouts in OH are you? There is a small gunstore in Gibsonberg that has some of the nicest M44s I've seen for $85, lat I was in there.





I'm in Toledo, but i would be down for a road trip
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 7:08:15 AM EDT
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 5:46:39 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 7:23:50 PM EDT
Link Posted: 1/31/2006 8:23:21 PM EDT

Originally Posted By Magurgle:

Originally Posted By tep0583:
It's be hard to go wrong with a 91/30. You should be able to find a good one for under $100 or just over for something like an ex-Dragoon or a hex reciever.

If you keep your eye on Dunham's, they often have M44s on sale for under $100, as well.

Where abouts in OH are you? There is a small gunstore in Gibsonberg that has some of the nicest M44s I've seen for $85, lat I was in there.





I'm in Toledo, but i would be down for a road trip



Oh, heck, you're close to them. Take SR20 to SR300 into Gibsonberg. You'll see a small gunshop on the right-hand side just befor you hit SR600. Don't let the size fool you, they usually have some cool C&R stuff there.

Last time I was there, they had some nice M44s and some of the best-condition Turkish M1903 Mausers I've ever seen in person. I believe they had a couple of 91/30s too. They usually have milsurp ammo for both reasonably priced, as well. I've been meaning to get back there to get another M44 and 1903 Mauser, but keep running into other deals that distract my funds.

Depending on what side of Toledo you're from, it shouldn't take too long to get there. Probably 30-45 minutes, at most. They're generally open until at least 6 on the weekdays and are open until 5-6 on sat.
Link Posted: 2/1/2006 3:53:22 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/1/2006 3:55:21 PM EDT by Magurgle]
I live .1mile from sr20, reynolds and heatherdowns

Edit just looked it up and it is not far at all
Link Posted: 2/1/2006 8:04:51 PM EDT
I too have been looking into getting a 91/30. How can one tell the sniper grade from a regular infantry model? I see a few on GB that saw they are ex sniper rearsanel finished. Is there any way to tell? What is a decent price for such a rifle?

Best regards,
BJohnson
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 5:51:55 AM EDT
Link Posted: 2/2/2006 10:16:30 AM EDT

Originally Posted By Magurgle:
I live .1mile from sr20, reynolds and heatherdowns

Edit just looked it up and it is not far at all



Should be an easy trip.

You can either take 20 all the way or the 475 loop. Either would probably get you there withing a half hour, easy.
Link Posted: 2/4/2006 12:52:13 PM EDT
Nevermind.

Went there today.

They're gone.
Link Posted: 2/5/2006 1:46:59 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 2/5/2006 1:47:29 AM EDT by Magurgle]

Originally Posted By tep0583:
Nevermind.

Went there today.

They're gone.



I was planning to run out there on monday. I think I have decided on the 91/30 I like the longer gun I am a big guy(6'5" 330lbs) and it just makes more sense to me to have the longer gun. Hell I have a hard time making through the door, I'm sure I can figure out how to fit the rifle through

Edit: did you happen to get the name of the place??
Link Posted: 2/5/2006 7:46:45 PM EDT
I think it was Gibsonberg Gun.

I went out there on sat, to peruse the M44s and to maybe pick up a case or two of Albanian 7.62x54. The place is completely bare. Only the NRA and ORPA stickers on the door to even suggest they'd ever been there.

Dunham's usually carries Mosins, as well, but they're usually on the higher end of the scale. Still, a 91/30 for ~$100 (I think they're around that, been a while) isn't too bad, especially if you get to see it before buying....
Link Posted: 2/5/2006 7:48:57 PM EDT
BTW - I think you'll like the 91/30. I personally prefer the bigger rifles myself and the 91/30 is on BIG mother. Even bigger, if you put the bayonet on.....
Link Posted: 2/5/2006 11:03:22 PM EDT
It's not that big. I mean, yeah, it's a nice sized rifle, but no bigger than any other of its contemporaries. The K98's longer, the 1903 is about the same size (maybe a tiny bit shorter), the Enfield is an inch or two shorter but bulkier in the action, and the Garand may be shorter, but comparitively, it's got a gut (big thick double stack clip and gas action, of course).

I'm 6', and while it's of respectable size, I don't think of my 91/30 as a big mother...
Link Posted: 2/5/2006 11:39:42 PM EDT

Originally Posted By tep0583:
BTW - I think you'll like the 91/30. I personally prefer the bigger rifles myself and the 91/30 is on BIG mother. Even bigger, if you put the bayonet on.....

Link Posted: 2/6/2006 6:07:27 AM EDT
The 91/30 is about 6" longer than the WWII era Mauser. The sights on them are about the best I have seen on a battle rifle. Much better than a Mauser or Springfield. Target acquisition is fast, and the older you get, the more your eyes appreciate them. The shorter M38's and 91/59's make great brush rifles. They are a long as the M44, but without the attached bayonet. I don't care for the M44. Way too much out of balance for my liking.
Link Posted: 2/11/2006 12:36:59 PM EDT
can't wait for it to get here, 91/30 all matching numbers including bayonet
Link Posted: 2/12/2006 8:30:01 PM EDT
Cool!

Let us know what you think!

I just found this today:



It's a 1940 Finn VKT M91, built on an old Russian M91 reciever. It's only one of two Finn Mosins I've seen in this area and the other one was a lot rougher. Figured I'd better get this one.

Link Posted: 2/13/2006 12:37:50 PM EDT
tep0583

Nice find. The Finn M91's are great rifles. I have two M91's with Finnish Tikka barrels. One of them is mounted in a 91/30 stock. I also have a Bulgarian M91 that I picked up for $50. Has a cracked stock and I hade to find a bolt that would close when a bullet was in the chamber. I also had to use a black wire tie for a front barrel band. Actually shoots pretty good.
Link Posted: 2/13/2006 6:32:00 PM EDT
Yeah, I can't wait to get thi one out to the range. I've heard good things and the bore on this one is tight. She should be a good shooter.
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