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Posted: 8/12/2010 4:41:40 AM EDT
I just bought a Magnum Research 22WMR semi, based on the 10/22 reciever.

What do you guys think of a Bolt Buffer? I have read manufactures ads on them, but Im not sure if it is hype or real/

Can anybody put any first hand imput into this please?

Thanks
Link Posted: 8/12/2010 5:23:49 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 8/12/2010 5:24:00 AM EDT by RDTCU]
They do wear out and require replacement, the frequency depends on the durometer of the material.

Their best use is with a suppressed gun to quiet down the bolt cycle, which would then be louder than the actual muzzle blast.
Link Posted: 8/12/2010 5:53:02 AM EDT
I love my Tuffer Buffer. It gets rid of the KLACK KLACK KLACK that 10/22s are known for.
Link Posted: 8/12/2010 6:15:48 AM EDT
Tuffer Buffers are the way to go. Cheap insurance, if nothing else. The one in my boys' 10/22 has at least 3000 rounds on it, and it shows no signs of wear.
Link Posted: 8/12/2010 6:41:23 AM EDT
I used to shoot 20-30k rounds a year in 10-22's BEFORE anyone made buffers. I noted that the holes did elongate after a while. So I'd sell it and buy a new one. Since then I put buffers in every 10-22 I own or work on. cheaper than a new reciever
Link Posted: 8/12/2010 2:37:12 PM EDT
I don't shoot suppressed, full auto, or anything fancy, and I use a buffer. It makes the shooting smoother.
Link Posted: 8/12/2010 6:28:40 PM EDT
It is the first thing I install on a 10/22.
Link Posted: 8/13/2010 8:27:31 PM EDT
I bought a tuffer buffer and it is a PITA to put back in. I didn't notice any difference while shooting but anything to stop metel to metal contact is worth it to me.

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Link Posted: 8/14/2010 3:49:31 AM EDT
Originally Posted By LA_357SIG:
I bought a tuffer buffer and it is a PITA to put back in. I didn't notice any difference while shooting but anything to stop metel to metal contact is worth it to me.

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oil it before insertion. Trust me on this.
Link Posted: 8/14/2010 6:03:59 PM EDT
Originally Posted By ravinluna:
I used to shoot 20-30k rounds a year in 10-22's BEFORE anyone made buffers. I noted that the holes did elongate after a while. So I'd sell it and buy a new one. Since then I put buffers in every 10-22 I own or work on. cheaper than a new reciever


Have you now noticed a difference in how long the holes last before elongating?
Link Posted: 8/14/2010 6:17:28 PM EDT
Originally Posted By hrt4me:
Originally Posted By ravinluna:
I used to shoot 20-30k rounds a year in 10-22's BEFORE anyone made buffers. I noted that the holes did elongate after a while. So I'd sell it and buy a new one. Since then I put buffers in every 10-22 I own or work on. cheaper than a new reciever


Have you now noticed a difference in how long the holes last before elongating?


with the buffer there is no elongation
Link Posted: 8/14/2010 7:39:51 PM EDT
I put a buffer in my stock 10/22. I don't shoot suppressed or anything, but the buffer does eliminate the "clank" sound you get when shooting. I didn't notice how much a difference my buffer made until I shot a friend's 10/22 without one.

Basically, no reason not to get a buffer. So do it.
Link Posted: 8/16/2010 6:40:48 AM EDT
I haven't had one elongate since I started putting buffers in them. BUT i only shoot 3-4 k a year now and I've been talked out of an average of one 10-22 every six months by friends and relatives (after I do all my mods to them). stoning trigger pull to 3lbs, polishing and re-radiusing the bolt and firing pin, drill cleaning port in the back of reciever, lock tight scope base, lap scope rings, deburr the muzzle, and usually glassbed / free float the barrel by relieving the barrel band and hogging out the barrel channel. I figure I've done 24 of my full treatments and no one has ever been dissatisfied.
Link Posted: 8/21/2010 10:08:20 AM EDT
Being the cheapskate I am, I picked up a 1/4 inch by 3 inch nylon bolt from the hardware store and cut the smooth part of the shank to fit the reciever. Got rid of the metal to metal contact for about $1.
Link Posted: 8/21/2010 2:18:51 PM EDT
This is kind of off topic, but I have been pondering it for a while.

What if someone were to turn a delrin rod to the appropriate OD and the drill/bore/ream/whatev an ID into the plastic. From there you could press in a steel pin.

I'm wondering if this would change the characteristics of the buffer at all?

Ie lengthen or decrease its lifespan.
Link Posted: 8/21/2010 3:03:22 PM EDT
Originally Posted By Cole2534:
This is kind of off topic, but I have been pondering it for a while.

What if someone were to turn a delrin rod to the appropriate OD and the drill/bore/ream/whatev an ID into the plastic. From there you could press in a steel pin.

I'm wondering if this would change the characteristics of the buffer at all?

Ie lengthen or decrease its lifespan.


The Volquartsen buffer has a small steel rod in it. The solid buffers work just as well or better. I have two VQ buffers and there is nothing special about them.
Link Posted: 8/22/2010 5:39:47 PM EDT
I have the buffer in both 10/22, the Hyper Velocity rig benefits from it the most.
Link Posted: 8/25/2010 11:16:22 AM EDT
I have a non fancy bolt buffer. No metal on metal contact with the bolt. It was the first thing I did with mine.
Link Posted: 8/25/2010 1:36:49 PM EDT
Good to have with a Suppressed 10/22.
Link Posted: 8/25/2010 5:28:31 PM EDT
Originally Posted By BushmasterGuy77:
Good to have with a Suppressed 10/22.


You suppressor guys have all the fun!
Link Posted: 9/5/2010 6:36:35 PM EDT
is a buffer a buffer? anybody tried the cheap ones from ebay? I mean do i really need to spend 10 bucks on a piece of plastic? I have one but i need another one now for another rifle
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 9:51:38 AM EDT
Mine just mic'd 0.2490 on both ends.
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 10:07:09 AM EDT
I whittled a nylon bolt a little bit and it fits perfectly. Probably over 7k rounds through it already.

Paying $10+ for that stupid piece of rubber is just that... stupid.

Link Posted: 9/6/2010 11:11:03 AM EDT
So anything 1/4 " is all i need
Link Posted: 9/6/2010 11:25:22 AM EDT
The second thing to do is dremel out the point in the heart shape in the bolt release. DIY auto bolt release.
Link Posted: 9/7/2010 5:10:28 PM EDT
If you are referring to the polyurethane buffer that replaces the stock metal one then I think they are absolutely worth a few bucks. I've bought them for all of my 10/22's because they reduce the overall noise generated by the gun. I have a 22 can so dropping a few bucks on a simple item to further reduce noise signature was a no-brainer.
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 7:41:31 AM EDT
The real question is, is there a reason not to run a bolt buffer in a 10/22. The answer is no
Link Posted: 9/8/2010 4:20:02 PM EDT
Have one in mine...
Link Posted: 9/9/2010 6:21:58 AM EDT

Originally Posted By fearme:
I whittled a nylon bolt a little bit and it fits perfectly. Probably over 7k rounds through it already.

Paying $10+ for that stupid piece of rubber is just that... stupid.


I agree. I use a cut down nylon bolt. The commercial 10-22 buffers are a MAJOR waste of money.
Some members on another board contend that if you don't buy 10-22 buffers from board advertisers, you are, more or less, the devil's spawn.
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