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Posted: 4/28/2003 5:43:14 PM EDT
I plan on turning my 10/22 into a AK-10/22 (I made that name up), with a folding AK buttstock, and a AK pistol grip. Has anyone else done anything like this? If you have I could use some ideas, and Id love to see some pictures.
thanks
Brian
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 7:52:30 AM EDT
[Last Edit: 4/29/2003 7:53:25 AM EDT by Knife_Sniper]
Depending on its current configuration and the year it was manufacutred, the setup you are describing may be illegal. What is your current configuration and date of mfg.??

Assault weapons bans are a b!tch are they not?

Link Posted: 4/29/2003 12:08:44 PM EDT
Link Posted: 4/29/2003 3:54:32 PM EDT
I am farmiliar with the ban, this rifle is from the late 80's.
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 8:39:11 AM EDT
Are you familiar with it enough to know the rifle has to have been in AW configuration before the ban? Just because a rifle was built before the ban doesn't mean it is "Pre-Ban."

I've also heard the caution all "they" have to prove is AW configuration, you will have to prove it's pre-ban status.

All in all I think it's up to you to decide how much of a gamble it all is.
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 3:02:36 PM EDT
Yes, I know all this.
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 8:08:38 PM EDT
Then you're aware that you may be committing a felony by changing the configuration of your 10/22.

That's what is so stupid about the ban as it affects these particular rifles. Unlike an AR-15 (where you can slap any "evil" features on it if the receiver is pre-ban), a 10/22 has to have been modified to folding stock or other "evil" configuration prior to the ban in order for it to be legally modified today.
Link Posted: 4/30/2003 9:21:09 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/1/2003 8:10:46 PM EDT
I have an AR 10/22.
Link Posted: 5/1/2003 8:27:16 PM EDT
Now what's all this talk about turning a nice little 10/22 into an assualt rifle...hmmmmmmmmm?


Link Posted: 5/2/2003 10:11:43 PM EDT
WHOA>..

wait a minute, i thought we can have anything on a .22lr rimfire rifle?
Folding stock, pistol grip...etc etc.

Am i wrong?

Cause i was gonna buy a pistol grip/folding stock combo for my 10/22....
Link Posted: 5/2/2003 11:04:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: 5/2/2003 11:06:33 PM EDT by TREETOP]
Link Posted: 5/3/2003 12:27:42 AM EDT
i thought th AW ban said centerfir in the wording... damnit. gotta go look it up now.
Link Posted: 5/3/2003 2:45:35 AM EDT
I thought the same thing because of someone online here pointing it out to me. They gave me a link to the wording and everything.

I looked again later and there is no mention of centerfire. He may have pointed out a state law or something and I didn't catch it. Not sure, but I was really confused when I saw it later without the word "centerfire" in it.
Link Posted: 5/3/2003 5:19:20 PM EDT
The Federal AW ban applies to both centerfire and rimfire rifles. bruh44 can make his project gun because his is a preban, as he has stated, and because he already had a folding type stock before the ban (which of course he did).

the California AW ban specifies "centerfire" rifles, and exempts rimfires. What this means is I can still buy and import a preban rimfire with "evil" features - Jager AP-74, AMT Lightning,ect. Now, because of California's magazine ban, I wouldn't be able to import these models magazines (15rd & 25rd)........ through my FFL.
Link Posted: 5/3/2003 6:35:09 PM EDT

Originally Posted By TREETOP:
I built one very similar to this one quite a few years ago:
photos.ar15.com/WS_Content/ImageGallery/IG_LoadImage.asp?iImageUnq=11392



That's sweet. How much of a pain was it to put together? I've thought about doing something like it with my 10-22, the Choate folder that's on it is ok, but isn't as neat. A M3 greasegun/M231 port firing weapon wire stock would be cool also.
Link Posted: 5/3/2003 6:44:41 PM EDT
Well thank you NOTACK. Glad to see somebody has faith in me.
Link Posted: 5/4/2003 6:41:43 AM EDT
It's not a matter of having faith in you. It's a matter of looking out for the safety and well-being of a brother shooter. :)
Link Posted: 5/7/2003 10:06:21 PM EDT
Origionaly posted by treetop

If it was in AW configuration prior to middle Sept of 1994, it can have all the evil features you want. If not, you can only add one evil feature to a semiauto rifle which uses a detachable magazine: bayonet lug, flash suppressor and/or threaded barrel, pistol grip, folding stock

O.K. wait a miniute. what about all the stuff you can get from cabellas and basspro.they have pistolgrip stocks(folding stocks welded in the extended position),flash hiders, and all kinds of stuff like that. is it illigal to put more than one of those things on my post-ban 10/22.
Link Posted: 5/7/2003 10:20:18 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/7/2003 10:28:40 PM EDT
DAMNIT! I wanted to get a second 10/22 and do that.
Link Posted: 5/17/2003 9:18:16 PM EDT
I thought it was a telescoping stock, not a folding stock?
Link Posted: 5/17/2003 9:33:30 PM EDT
Link Posted: 5/17/2003 10:30:18 PM EDT
It sucks too 'cause a 10/22 w/a folding stock is one handy backpacking/truck/boat rifle to have around and cheap enough that you don't care if it gets beat up. I had one with a Ramline folding stock but the gang banger ripped it off yo! I moved right after that....

funny, they stole a Raven .25 and my 10/22 but left my TZ-75 9mm.

Dumb....
Link Posted: 5/28/2003 5:01:42 PM EDT
Is there some place one can go to look up serial #'s of 10/22 carbines to see what year they were manufactured?

Bob
Link Posted: 5/28/2003 6:33:41 PM EDT
O.K, just so I understand this correctly.

I have a preban 10/22. Since I didn't have a folding stock prior to the ban, I can't have one now. Is that correct?
Link Posted: 5/29/2003 2:25:43 AM EDT
That's correct Mach 1
Link Posted: 6/2/2003 12:11:40 PM EDT
mem.tcon.net/users/5010/5491/rimfires.htm You could just buy one of these
Stay away from armscor tho!
Link Posted: 6/3/2003 5:06:17 AM EDT
You can check your serial number here:

http://www.ruger-firearms.com/Firearms/SE-H-RI-10-22.html
Link Posted: 6/3/2003 11:50:18 AM EDT

Origionaly posted by:Skammy mem.tcon.net/users/5010/5491/rimfires.htm You could just buy one of these
Stay away from armscor tho!



Any one know where I can get one of those F.E.C. XC-220's? That looks like a fun little gun.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 1:50:44 AM EDT
I've really only seen one of those for sale ever R14.. It's reserve was 700 bucks also!
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 11:37:36 AM EDT
That sucks! Guess I'll have to stick the ruger.
Link Posted: 6/4/2003 6:14:29 PM EDT
Oops! Thats suposed to say stick WITH the ruger. I've got to pay more attention before I hit the submit button.
Link Posted: 6/5/2003 1:06:02 PM EDT
No Mach1 that is NOT CORRECT (BK??)

If you had a 10/22 in ANY assault weapons configuration, (detach mag and pistol grip and ANY of the other features, or detach mag and any two of the other features, folding, flash, supress, telescopingstock), then you may add on more evil features (had flash, detach, and pistol, but now want folding stock), you may ADD features, or exchange...

However, if you had a plain Jane 10/22 from 1988 and didn't do anything to it, then it doesn't qualify as an AW and is not preban... =(
Link Posted: 6/9/2003 1:18:51 PM EDT
Yes, Phoenix is correct. I had assumed non-AW configuration.
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