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Posted: 9/5/2017 6:09:46 PM EDT
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1. Fuck team wendy..... google team wendy and Hillary that should be all you need.
2. I have a fast ballistic. Its fantastic. I would recommend upgrading to the 4d pads though no matter what you get. I cant comment on the 3M as I haven't used it. There ultra lightweight one is about a half a pound lighter on shell weight IIRC vs a fast XP MTEK is another company that has one that seems to get good reviews but again I haven't used one. That being said if youre not going to be on a two way range just get a bump helmet youll be much happier. Theres a big thread in the night vision sub forum on helmets FYI that's probably worth a read. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 6:17:34 PM EDT
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Hey all, The time has come fore me to buy a personal use ballistic helmet since I am going to be buying Night Vision. I was thinking about the Ops Core Fast Ballistic or possible Team Wendy but it looks like 3M makes a helmet now that is just like the Ops Core but cheaper. Does anyone have any experience with these? Any other options I should look at besides those named ones? I'm willing to drop the money on the OPS core but just trying to see what I gain by paying more for that over another. My current experience is mainly with the ACH that has been issued to me by Uncle Sam and honestly it sucks. It wont work with my MSA Sordin's and is uncomfortable when using it for long periods of time. I usually find myself not even using the chin strap which is a bad habit. Any help is appreciated. I recently snagged a set of the EPIC AIR pads from Team Wendy for my ACH. Between that and a CamLoc chinstrap, it is like a whole new helmet. I would damn near forget I was wearing it. No hot spots on the top of my head, raw face where straps rubbed, etc. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 6:27:38 PM EDT
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1. Fuck team wendy..... google team wendy and Hillary that should be all you need. 2. I have a fast ballistic. Its fantastic. I would recommend upgrading to the 4d pads though no matter what you get. I cant comment on the 3M as I haven't used it. There ultra lightweight one is about a half a pound lighter on shell weight IIRC vs a fast XP MTEK is another company that has one that seems to get good reviews but again I haven't used one. That being said if youre not going to be on a two way range just get a bump helmet youll be much happier. Theres a big thread in the night vision sub forum on helmets FYI that's probably worth a read. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 6:35:34 PM EDT
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I see adds for CPG Armory ballistic helmets on my Facebook feed all the time.
I don't own one, anyone have any opinions? I like their politics, someone asked if Antifa gets a discount, and their reply was that they don't sell to terrorist organizations. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 6:43:16 PM EDT
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I see adds for CPG Armory ballistic helmets on my Facebook feed all the time. I don't own one, anyone have any opinions? I like their politics, someone asked if Antifa gets a discount, and their reply was that they don't sell to terrorist organizations. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 7:20:47 PM EDT
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I've worn the 3m helmets, they are GTG.
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Posted: 9/5/2017 7:39:53 PM EDT
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I run an ops core at work. The suspension and pad system sucks. I gutted mine and went with TW epic air and chin strap. They are outstanding and offer a lot of stability for using NVG's. Arms unlimited usually has good prices on their lids : https://www.armsunlimited.com/Ops-Core-FAST-Ballistic-IIIA-Helmet-p/opscorefast.htm
I would look hard at the mtek as well. I don't have one but they look promising. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 7:41:04 PM EDT
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If you want a helmet made in china with unknown ballistic capabilities then go for it. For that price I'd go ACH. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I see adds for CPG Armory ballistic helmets on my Facebook feed all the time. I don't own one, anyone have any opinions? I like their politics, someone asked if Antifa gets a discount, and their reply was that they don't sell to terrorist organizations. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 7:44:50 PM EDT
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Yea, avoid the off shore manufactured knock offs at all costs. Ops Core, Crye AirFrame are two excellent & well tested products. Exfil, I'd avoid due to non-standard accessory rails. Yes, I know the drama about their politics, but my AirFrame has a team wendy chinstrap so...? As far as pads, wendy or 4D. Personally, I feel that the high cut MICH designs expose way too much compared to the "modern" high cuts. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 8:40:17 PM EDT
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Hey all, The time has come fore me to buy a personal use ballistic helmet since I am going to be buying Night Vision. I was thinking about the Ops Core Fast Ballistic or possible Team Wendy but it looks like 3M makes a helmet now that is just like the Ops Core but cheaper. Does anyone have any experience with these? Any other options I should look at besides those named ones? I'm willing to drop the money on the OPS core but just trying to see what I gain by paying more for that over another. My current experience is mainly with the ACH that has been issued to me by Uncle Sam and honestly it sucks. It wont work with my MSA Sordin's and is uncomfortable when using it for long periods of time. I usually find myself not even using the chin strap which is a bad habit. Any help is appreciated. I know you're probably getting something else anyway but I just wanted to point out that your ACH is likely not sized correctly. What size do you wear? I thought I was a medium, so I bought a medium and it squeezed my head and my Sordins just barely fit under it. Got a large and both problems are gone. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 8:42:50 PM EDT
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I know you're probably getting something else anyway but I just wanted to point out that your ACH is likely not sized correctly. What size do you wear? I thought I was a medium, so I bought a medium and it squeezed my head and my Sordins just barely fit under it. Got a large and both problems are gone. If you want to spend the coin on something better/sexier, that's a perfectly legitimate decision, but the ACH shouldn't be disregarded outright. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 8:49:57 PM EDT
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This. My Sordins fit fine under mine. I'll take the coverage if I'm wearing Sordin's anyways. If you want to spend the coin on something better/sexier, that's a perfectly legitimate decision, but the ACH shouldn't be disregarded outright. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I know you're probably getting something else anyway but I just wanted to point out that your ACH is likely not sized correctly. What size do you wear? I thought I was a medium, so I bought a medium and it squeezed my head and my Sordins just barely fit under it. Got a large and both problems are gone. If you want to spend the coin on something better/sexier, that's a perfectly legitimate decision, but the ACH shouldn't be disregarded outright. Sordins are made to fit under helmets like the ACH, they should fit. I'm betting you're just wearing a size under what you should be. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 9:39:38 PM EDT
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I recently snagged a set of the EPIC AIR pads from Team Wendy for my ACH. Between that and a CamLoc chinstrap, it is like a whole new helmet. I would damn near forget I was wearing it. No hot spots on the top of my head, raw face where straps rubbed, etc. I personally wear a TBH-II, which is really just a high-cut ACH with all the Ops-Core goodies from the factory. But I had to take out the foam liner and replace it with Epic Air pads. Ops-Core claims you don't need to go a size-up to wear the foam 360 liner, but there was no way I was cramming that helmet on my head with that thing in there no matter how hard I tried. I find the high-cut ACH much comfier with my Peltors than my old Ops Core FAST. The FAST sat too low and I had to tuck the tops of my ears into my Peltors. The ACH is cut a little bit higher and allows my entire ear to fit comfortable under my ear pro. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 9:43:34 PM EDT
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I know you're probably getting something else anyway but I just wanted to point out that your ACH is likely not sized correctly. What size do you wear? I thought I was a medium, so I bought a medium and it squeezed my head and my Sordins just barely fit under it. Got a large and both problems are gone. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 9:44:43 PM EDT
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Seriously OP, the ACH isn't really a bad helmet. I think it just has a bad rep due largely to improper fitting and the poor issue pads/suspension. The ACH can actually be decent, you just have to know how to set it up. Sordins are made to fit under helmets like the ACH, they should fit. I'm betting you're just wearing a size under what you should be. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 10:01:40 PM EDT
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I wear a large and the issue is the muffs contact the sides. How would I be wearing a size under if they won't even clear. If I had a smaller head and wore a medium it would still be the issue. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Seriously OP, the ACH isn't really a bad helmet. I think it just has a bad rep due largely to improper fitting and the poor issue pads/suspension. The ACH can actually be decent, you just have to know how to set it up. Sordins are made to fit under helmets like the ACH, they should fit. I'm betting you're just wearing a size under what you should be. Yes, I saw your other post about wearing a Large and it being too loose. It's entirely possible you just have a head shape that doesn't lend itself to the contours of the ACH. Not denying that, it happnes, everyone is different. But have you tried playing around with pad placement? This can sometimes make the difference for people between a poorly fitting helmet and a decently fitting one. Doesn't do much for me but my head is pretty concentric. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 10:06:15 PM EDT
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You're talking about the Sordins rubbing in the inside of the "ears" of the ACH right? That issue is caused by the helmet being too small. I had the same problem, went up a size, problem gone. When you go up a size there's more room for the Sordins to clear. Yes, I saw your other post about wearing a Large and it being too loose. It's entirely possible you just have a head shape that doesn't lend itself to the contours of the ACH. Not denying that, it happnes, everyone is different. But have you tried playing around with pad placement? This can sometimes make the difference for people between a poorly fitting helmet and a decently fitting one. Doesn't do much for me but my head is pretty concentric. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 10:06:29 PM EDT
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Seriously. Yeah yeah, "fuck team wendy fuck hillary" and all that, but those guys know how to make a helmet comfy... I will never own another harness but the CamFit. It's like wearing a snug baseball cap. I personally wear a TBH-II, which is really just a high-cut ACH with all the Ops-Core goodies from the factory. But I had to take out the foam liner and replace it with Epic Air pads. Ops-Core claims you don't need to go a size-up to wear the foam 360 liner, but there was no way I was cramming that helmet on my head with that thing in there no matter how hard I tried. I find the high-cut ACH much comfier with my Peltors than my old Ops Core FAST. The FAST sat too low and I had to tuck the tops of my ears into my Peltors. The ACH is cut a little bit higher and allows my entire ear to fit comfortable under my ear pro. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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I recently snagged a set of the EPIC AIR pads from Team Wendy for my ACH. Between that and a CamLoc chinstrap, it is like a whole new helmet. I would damn near forget I was wearing it. No hot spots on the top of my head, raw face where straps rubbed, etc. I personally wear a TBH-II, which is really just a high-cut ACH with all the Ops-Core goodies from the factory. But I had to take out the foam liner and replace it with Epic Air pads. Ops-Core claims you don't need to go a size-up to wear the foam 360 liner, but there was no way I was cramming that helmet on my head with that thing in there no matter how hard I tried. I find the high-cut ACH much comfier with my Peltors than my old Ops Core FAST. The FAST sat too low and I had to tuck the tops of my ears into my Peltors. The ACH is cut a little bit higher and allows my entire ear to fit comfortable under my ear pro. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 10:09:50 PM EDT
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When I tried it this afternoon the helmet sat on the sordins on the kick outs and it wouldn't go any lower. Going back to the discussion I don't like the ACH and am willing to buy a higher quality helmet to run so the ACH is out of the question. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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You're talking about the Sordins rubbing in the inside of the "ears" of the ACH right? That issue is caused by the helmet being too small. I had the same problem, went up a size, problem gone. When you go up a size there's more room for the Sordins to clear. Yes, I saw your other post about wearing a Large and it being too loose. It's entirely possible you just have a head shape that doesn't lend itself to the contours of the ACH. Not denying that, it happnes, everyone is different. But have you tried playing around with pad placement? This can sometimes make the difference for people between a poorly fitting helmet and a decently fitting one. Doesn't do much for me but my head is pretty concentric. Can't help you on any of the other helmet systems, haven't tried them myself. Don't know if any of them may have that problem. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 10:12:31 PM EDT
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If you're dead set on this I'd recommend getting the Maritime version of the OpsCore or risk facing the issue me and the other guy I quoted just above ran into. Can't help you on any of the other helmet systems, haven't tried them myself. Don't know if any of them may have that problem. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 8:05:12 AM EDT
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I see adds for CPG Armory ballistic helmets on my Facebook feed all the time. I don't own one, anyone have any opinions? I like their politics, someone asked if Antifa gets a discount, and their reply was that they don't sell to terrorist organizations.  Contingency Procurement Group Level IIIA helmet |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:18:17 AM EDT
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The 3m ultralight is by far the most comfortable one I've worn. It's well below the average price of it's competitors too.
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Posted: 9/6/2017 10:40:08 AM EDT
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OP, what about a high cut revision?
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Posted: 9/6/2017 11:39:27 AM EDT
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It will be used in an active shooter kit eventually for my civ job so a bump helmet is out of the question. For the Team Wendy issue the owner can support who they want, they make a quality product and I value my safety more someones political views. I keep hearing rave reviews for the OPs core so that may be my choice at the present. I'm sorry butcwithvthe direction people like that want to take the country makes them my enemy. That's how they look at us. Not to mention there are other options that are just as good if not better and don't have that retarded rail. And you want to suppprt them? Yeah. COC is all I have for you. 
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Posted: 9/6/2017 11:42:16 AM EDT
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I was going to write a post but not now. Fucking support traitors? Makes you the same. 
You realize all of the other helmet manufacturers donated to the Dems, right? They support traitors too. 
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Posted: 9/6/2017 11:45:15 AM EDT
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You realize all of the other helmet manufacturers donated to the Dems, right? They support traitors too. And not that I'm condoning it but a donation is a tad different than hosting an event for the main scumbag herself. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 11:50:44 AM EDT
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Which ones? Proof? Not some Radom story from a no name blog please. And not that I'm condoning it but a donation is a tad different than hosting an event for the main scumbag herself. I don't disagree with you on hosting vs. donation. Varying levels of evil, though. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 11:59:29 AM EDT
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Gentex/Ops-core
Clinton, Hillary$6,487 3m co Contributions from this PAC to federal candidates(23% to Democrats, 77% to Republicans)$231,100 |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 12:09:14 PM EDT
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OP, what about a high cut revision? |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 12:15:34 PM EDT
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I was going to write a post but not now. Fucking support traitors? How does that make you any different. I'm sorry butcwithvthe direction people like that want to take the country makes them my enemy. That's how they look at us. Not to mention there are other options that are just as good if not better and don't have that retarded rail. And you want to suppprt them? Yeah. COC is all I have for you. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 12:18:28 PM EDT
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Take a look at the MTEK helmets, super light weight and comfy as hell. Plus the ear parts are high enough that you won't have any issues while running coms.
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Posted: 9/6/2017 12:30:17 PM EDT
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Yea, avoid the off shore manufactured knock offs at all costs. Ops Core, Crye AirFrame are two excellent & well tested products. Exfil, I'd avoid due to non-standard accessory rails. Yes, I know the drama about their politics, but my AirFrame has a team wendy chinstrap so...? As far as pads, wendy or 4D. Personally, I feel that the high cut MICH designs expose way too much compared to the "modern" high cuts. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 7:15:05 PM EDT
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Are Ops Core helmets Berry compliant? Because I did not think that was the case. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 8:26:05 PM EDT
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Ops cores is or was made in Massachusetts. If I recall correctly. They got into a pissing match wiht a bunch of hippies in their building or what not.
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Posted: 9/19/2017 7:23:18 PM EDT
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Just an update. Looking hard at the Revision Caiman and may get one of those when they come out. Revision seems G2G especially since they just got the new ACH contract. Anyone have experience with them?
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Posted: 9/19/2017 7:33:26 PM EDT
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Just an update. Looking hard at the Revision Caiman and may get one of those when they come out. Revision seems G2G especially since they just got the new ACH contract. Anyone have experience with them? As for the Caiman I'll assume it'll be a great helmet that will make an OC Maritime looks like a budget option. |
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Posted: 9/19/2017 11:29:18 PM EDT
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Crye Airframe + 4D Tactical Zero G pads
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Posted: 9/20/2017 1:23:02 PM EDT
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Revision is one of the big brands. As for the Caiman I'll assume it'll be a great helmet that will make an OC Maritime looks like a budget option. |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 2:12:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/20/2017 6:56:58 PM EDT
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Crye Airframe + 4D Tactical Zero G pads |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 6:57:44 PM EDT
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how bout dis |
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Posted: 10/16/2017 8:44:35 AM EDT
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I currently have a Revision "gunfighter" cut helmet, which is now the old gen style of theirs. It works well and can probably be found at a good price when the new helmets are out. Uses Revision rails, and probably cover, but can add all other goodies, such as pads, suspension, etc.
Your old ACH can be modified, which is a lot of work but saves you a lot of bucks. Use rails as templates. I used a combination of high speed cut off wheel and coping saw. Re-sealed with Devcon epoxy and McNett Seam Grip (shit-canned old rubber rand). Custom-fitted Revision helmet cover. Drilled new holes for 3-hole mount. Install pads and suspension of choice. If you want the really good accessories, does not really save much from the Gentex. But allows you to buy stuff little at a time if on budget. The Gentex TBH II is probably the best deal out there right now. Easily 200 bucks under any major brand (Opscore, Crye) with the same goodies. Has the rails and shroud but may need to upgrade pads, suspension, etc. The Crye Airframe does look weird, but if over pressure from IED's is a concern, then it could save you from a TBI. Good prices right now. But may have to upgrade pads, suspension. If you really want the Cadillac, the Opscore Maritime ballistic. But may still want different pads, suspension. |
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Posted: 10/17/2017 10:49:36 PM EDT
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I don't like the look of the airframe and how it overlaps. I know it's stupid to not use something for looks, while I'm a huge crye fan the Airframe doesn't do it for me. I'm torn between the Ops Core and the 3M Ultra light weight currently since the 3M comes with the 4D stock. |
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Posted: 10/18/2017 11:00:03 AM EDT
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Where can you get an airframe with the mount bracket already installed? I don't want to drill a $1000 helmet myself.
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Posted: 10/18/2017 12:18:27 PM EDT
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Where can you get an airframe with the mount bracket already installed? I don't want to drill a $1000 helmet myself. Pre drilled for 3 hole shrouds |
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Posted: 10/18/2017 12:37:12 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryQuote History All AirFrame Helmets we sell come pre-drilled for 3-hole NVG Shrouds. |
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Posted: 10/18/2017 12:39:17 PM EDT
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Doh, I missed that when I was looking earlier. Thanks! |
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Posted: 10/18/2017 1:20:02 PM EDT
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What shroud do you suggest? I'm running dual 14s and will have comms on ARC rails. https://tnvc.com/shop/wilcox-l4-three-hole-shroud/ |
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Posted: 10/18/2017 1:48:14 PM EDT
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About to get a ballistic helmet as well, crye is at the top of my list so far.
Lightweight and comfort are top for me so I'm hoping it works out. |
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Posted: 10/18/2017 6:14:38 PM EDT
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Y'all keep mentioning the Crye Airframe making me second guess my choice. It's between the new 3m High cut and the Revision Caimon.
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