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Posted: 8/14/2018 12:53:24 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alphajaguars:
I'd recommend checking High Comm and Esstac. High comm doesn't have them, and Esstac says page not found |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 6:52:33 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman:
Just checked both for the 3610, High comm doesn't have them, and Esstac says page not found Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman:
Originally Posted By alphajaguars:
I'd recommend checking High Comm and Esstac. High comm doesn't have them, and Esstac says page not found You'll have to contact Esstac directly to get info on the 3610. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 1:08:01 PM EDT
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Hey guys I see Crye makes zip on panels/packs for the JPC 2.0
Has anyone tried them? |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 3:40:57 PM EDT
[Last Edit: VIP3R]
[#4]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alphajaguars:
Crap, I had a brainfart on High Com. Check out Bulletproofme. You'll have to contact Esstac directly to get info on the 3610. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alphajaguars:
Crap, I had a brainfart on High Com. Check out Bulletproofme. You'll have to contact Esstac directly to get info on the 3610. Originally Posted By PA-Minuteman:
Just checked both for the 3610, High comm doesn't have them, and Esstac says page not found The main site page is broken. https://www.esstac.com/product-page/hesco-3610-lvl-3 |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 10:19:09 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VIP3R:
No, just go to the store page. The main site page is broken. https://www.esstac.com/product-page/hesco-3610-lvl-3 Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By VIP3R:
Originally Posted By alphajaguars:
Crap, I had a brainfart on High Com. Check out Bulletproofme. You'll have to contact Esstac directly to get info on the 3610. Originally Posted By PA-Minuteman:
Just checked both for the 3610, High comm doesn't have them, and Esstac says page not found The main site page is broken. https://www.esstac.com/product-page/hesco-3610-lvl-3 
Esstac are good people. |
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Posted: 8/14/2018 10:27:43 PM EDT
[#6]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman:
Hey guys I see Crye makes zip on panels/packs for the JPC 2.0 Has anyone tried them? The large/XL take the same panels. |
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Posted: 8/15/2018 1:11:31 AM EDT
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What size plate should I get?
I'm 6'3 280lbs (planning on losing around 40-50 more lbs). I have 10x12 plates right now, I'm thinking about going with the mediums due to the extra weight savings. M: 9.5" x 12.5" 4.5lbs L: 10.25" x 13.25" 5.2lbs Is the extra coverage worth the extra $10? Also each plate is $410, is there any better price out there? Do these plates ever go on sale? At that price it's hard to sallow buying a set for $800+  
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Posted: 8/15/2018 1:40:57 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman:
What size plate should I get? I'm 6'3 280lbs (planning on losing around 40-50 more lbs). I have 10x12 plates right now, I'm thinking about going with the mediums due to the extra weight savings. M: 9.5" x 12.5" 4.5lbs L: 10.25" x 13.25" 5.2lbs Is the extra coverage worth the extra $10? Also each plate is $410, is there any better price out there? Do these plates ever go on sale? At that price it's hard to sallow buying a set for $800+ |
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Posted: 8/15/2018 2:11:49 AM EDT
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Heres Hescos sizing chart:
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Posted: 8/15/2018 7:29:04 AM EDT
[#10]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman:
What size plate should I get? I'm 6'3 280lbs (planning on losing around 40-50 more lbs). I have 10x12 plates right now, I'm thinking about going with the mediums due to the extra weight savings. M: 9.5" x 12.5" 4.5lbs L: 10.25" x 13.25" 5.2lbs Is the extra coverage worth the extra $10? Also each plate is $410, is there any better price out there? Do these plates ever go on sale? At that price it's hard to sallow buying a set for $800+  Hesco body armor plate hit by over 20 rifle rounds (slow motion of round impact) I saved more nickles and got the 3610's. |
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Posted: 8/15/2018 8:33:51 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alphajaguars:
I was looking at a much cheaper set of plates, and then I saw this video:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFs1t1iRqnU
I saved more nickles and got the 3610's. |
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Posted: 8/15/2018 5:17:43 PM EDT
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Originally Posted By D-RAS03:
I would say a large plate for your size. Measure your chest width to see if a medium would give you the coverage you want. Also remember mobility is key so some people go with smaller plates. What PC are you getting? And are you dead set on those Hesco plates? Highcom offers some nice plates and a 20% coupon. thanks!
Originally Posted By alphajaguars:
I was looking at a much cheaper set of plates, and then I saw this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFs1t1iRqnU
I saved more nickles and got the 3610's. It all depends on what those 20 rounds were. I think I might get the 3610s and a Crye JPC 2.0, I just wish it wasn't so much
I know "Go be poor somewhere else" |
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Posted: 8/15/2018 9:03:30 PM EDT
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I have ordered a set of 11x14 SAPI from Highcom just becaus at 6-4 it covered the area needed Using my cardboard cutout high tech device.
It’s what will fill up my JPC and I ran around the house last week with 10lbs weights inside the pc to get the feel. I went with buy once hide it from the CFO 
It’s the accessories that are killing my wallet |
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Posted: 8/15/2018 9:41:03 PM EDT
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I figured it was either M193 or M855
Either way, 20+ hits from an M4 stopped by a ceramic was pretty damned good to me. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 9:09:55 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alphajaguars:
I figured it was either M193 or M855 Either way, 20+ hits from an M4 stopped by a ceramic was pretty damned good to me. All modern ceramics are multi-hit. Not all .223/5.56 is equal. Shitty, underpowered wolf ammo doesn't really prove anything if m193 or m855 burns through it like butter. In any case, I think the plates are good. The price and weight are on par with other, more expensive offerings, so I don't think you're getting a bad deal. That said, I want to really, really know what my plate will/won't stop. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 11:22:14 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bcauz3y:
Kinda. All modern ceramics are multi-hit. Not all .223/5.56 is equal. Shitty, underpowered wolf ammo doesn't really prove anything if m193 or m855 burns through it like butter. In any case, I think the plates are good. The price and weight are on par with other, more expensive offerings, so I don't think you're getting a bad deal. That said, I want to really, really know what my plate will/won't stop. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bcauz3y:
Originally Posted By alphajaguars:
I figured it was either M193 or M855 Either way, 20+ hits from an M4 stopped by a ceramic was pretty damned good to me. All modern ceramics are multi-hit. Not all .223/5.56 is equal. Shitty, underpowered wolf ammo doesn't really prove anything if m193 or m855 burns through it like butter. In any case, I think the plates are good. The price and weight are on par with other, more expensive offerings, so I don't think you're getting a bad deal. That said, I want to really, really know what my plate will/won't stop. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 11:50:13 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alphajaguars:
Pretty sure Hesco's are a legit NIJ rated company. It's been a while since I did my research before buying, but they are definitely GTG.
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Posted: 8/16/2018 3:17:30 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bcauz3y:
Oh they are, for sure. I'm just not well educated on the special threat stuff. It's not a problem with them, it's a problem with my inability to research it. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By bcauz3y:
Originally Posted By alphajaguars:
Pretty sure Hesco's are a legit NIJ rated company. It's been a while since I did my research before buying, but they are definitely GTG.
My understanding is @Eagle34 knows a lot more about the ratings systems than I do. IIRC, Level 3 plates will stop M193 but not M855, while 3+ will stop both. But I have been know to be wrong before. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 4:07:53 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alphajaguars:
Crap, I had a brainfart on High Com. Check out Bulletproofme. You'll have to contact Esstac directly to get info on the 3610. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 4:23:58 PM EDT
[#20]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman:
What size plate should I get? I'm 6'3 280lbs (planning on losing around 40-50 more lbs). I have 10x12 plates right now, I'm thinking about going with the mediums due to the extra weight savings. M: 9.5" x 12.5" 4.5lbs L: 10.25" x 13.25" 5.2lbs Is the extra coverage worth the extra $10? Also each plate is $410, is there any better price out there? Do these plates ever go on sale? At that price it's hard to sallow buying a set for $800+ |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 4:38:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alphajaguars:
My understanding is @Eagle34 knows a lot more about the ratings systems than I do. IIRC, Level 3 plates will stop M193 but not M855, while 3+ will stop both. But I have been know to be wrong before. NIJ doesn't actually have a testing protocol for III+ but most manufacturers use this to indicate that it will stop level III plus M855. Also NIJ doesn't have a testing protocol for Special Threat plates. DEA and FBI have their own testing protocols and seem to be more stringent that NIJ. If you get a set of plates that meet NIJ level III and DEA testing you have some really nice plates. Be advised they will cost you. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 4:44:17 PM EDT
[#22]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman:
What size plate should I get? I'm 6'3 280lbs (planning on losing around 40-50 more lbs). I have 10x12 plates right now, I'm thinking about going with the mediums due to the extra weight savings. M: 9.5" x 12.5" 4.5lbs L: 10.25" x 13.25" 5.2lbs Is the extra coverage worth the extra $10? Also each plate is $410, is there any better price out there? Do these plates ever go on sale? At that price it's hard to sallow buying a set for $800+ |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 5:46:14 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eagle34:
Not that I know more, just have recently done the research. You are correct on the III and III+. NIJ doesn't actually have a testing protocol for III+ but most manufacturers use this to indicate that it will stop level III plus M855. Also NIJ doesn't have a testing protocol for Special Threat plates. DEA and FBI have their own testing protocols and seem to be more stringent that NIJ. If you get a set of plates that meet NIJ level III and DEA testing you have some really nice plates. Be advised they will cost you. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eagle34:
Originally Posted By alphajaguars:
My understanding is @Eagle34 knows a lot more about the ratings systems than I do. IIRC, Level 3 plates will stop M193 but not M855, while 3+ will stop both. But I have been know to be wrong before. NIJ doesn't actually have a testing protocol for III+ but most manufacturers use this to indicate that it will stop level III plus M855. Also NIJ doesn't have a testing protocol for Special Threat plates. DEA and FBI have their own testing protocols and seem to be more stringent that NIJ. If you get a set of plates that meet NIJ level III and DEA testing you have some really nice plates. Be advised they will cost you. Any ceramic plate will stop M855, including level III plates. The issue is with polyethylene plates. Poly only plates won't stop M855 at high velocities. The Hesco 3600 for example is rated level III, is poly only, and won't stop M855. But a ceramic plate carrying the same level III rating will stop M855. It's not really an issue of rating as it is materials in regards to M193, M855, and similar projectiles. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 9:00:41 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eagle34:
I have them added to my Esstac cart. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eagle34:
Originally Posted By alphajaguars:
Crap, I had a brainfart on High Com. Check out Bulletproofme. You'll have to contact Esstac directly to get info on the 3610. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 9:01:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eagle34:
Not that I know more, just have recently done the research. You are correct on the III and III+. NIJ doesn't actually have a testing protocol for III+ but most manufacturers use this to indicate that it will stop level III plus M855. Also NIJ doesn't have a testing protocol for Special Threat plates. DEA and FBI have their own testing protocols and seem to be more stringent that NIJ. If you get a set of plates that meet NIJ level III and DEA testing you have some really nice plates. Be advised they will cost you. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eagle34:
Originally Posted By alphajaguars:
My understanding is @Eagle34 knows a lot more about the ratings systems than I do. IIRC, Level 3 plates will stop M193 but not M855, while 3+ will stop both. But I have been know to be wrong before. NIJ doesn't actually have a testing protocol for III+ but most manufacturers use this to indicate that it will stop level III plus M855. Also NIJ doesn't have a testing protocol for Special Threat plates. DEA and FBI have their own testing protocols and seem to be more stringent that NIJ. If you get a set of plates that meet NIJ level III and DEA testing you have some really nice plates. Be advised they will cost you. |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 9:56:21 PM EDT
[Last Edit: PA-Minuteman]
[#26]
Quote HistoryWell
Thanks for the info guys, I plan on getting a Crye JPC 2.0, Zip on pack 2.0, and Hesco 3610 plates..... Well back to ramen for the next couple of months
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:08:23 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eagle34: Best way is to measure yourself. Nipple to nipple and from the gap between you color bones to just above your belly button (about an inch.) |
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:40:20 PM EDT
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What I can seem to find an answer on is that there are a ton of model numbers that are listed from many manufacturers on the NIJ list that are the same, so are the model numbers just a set of requirements that they follow and label it with that model or is there just a few actual makers and they just rebrand them?
I don’t know why I need to know but I do.
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Posted: 8/16/2018 10:55:22 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By mlr052869:
What I can seem to find an answer on is that there are a ton of model numbers that are listed from many manufacturers on the NIJ list that are the same, so are the model numbers just a set of requirements that they follow and label it with that model or is there just a few actual makers and they just rebrand them? I don't know why I need to know but I do. The Paraclete Speed Plate lineup for example are re-branded TenCate plates. Shot Stop plates are also re-branded TenCate plates. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 7:34:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By alphajaguars:
Do the 3610's meet both?
Hesco makes no mention of it. They may but might not have been submitted for testing. |
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Posted: 8/17/2018 7:37:26 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eagle34:
Nope
Hesco makes no mention of it. They may but might not have been submitted for testing. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Eagle34:
Originally Posted By alphajaguars:
Do the 3610's meet both?
Hesco makes no mention of it. They may but might not have been submitted for testing. 
Oh, well. Still a great plate. |
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Posted: 8/20/2018 11:07:36 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By CAKEPWNER:
The part in red. There are few actual manufacturers of hard armor plates, particularly ceramic plates, compared to the number of sellers. The plates are manufactured by someone else and sold under private label. The Paraclete Speed Plate lineup for example are re-branded TenCate plates. Shot Stop plates are also re-branded TenCate plates. |
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Posted: 8/20/2018 11:35:06 AM EDT
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This entire last page has 0 appropriate posts. What the fuck
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Posted: 8/20/2018 11:40:19 AM EDT
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#notmyshit |
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Posted: 8/24/2018 1:23:11 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RustyDaleShackleford:
This entire last page has 0 appropriate posts. What the fuck
What do you want us to do? Make 100+ threads asking basic questions?
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Posted: 8/24/2018 9:19:03 PM EDT
[Last Edit: andrewz71]
[#36]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By PA-Minuteman:
The the thread title does say "Plate carrier thread?"
What do you want us to do? Make 100+ threads asking basic questions? Since this is a pic thread questions and chat should be posted separate from this thread... Example: 
It kind of stinks when you are subscribed to a picture thread and only see people talking... |
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Posted: 8/27/2018 9:18:16 AM EDT
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Thanks for the help guys, I just ordered a Crye JPC 2.0 in Multicam from OPTactical.
I ordered a medium, hopefully that will give me the coverage I want
I will post pics once I get it |
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Posted: 8/27/2018 12:50:23 PM EDT
[Last Edit: NVjunkie]
[#38]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By RustyDaleShackleford:
This entire last page has 0 appropriate posts. What the fuck Hate seeing new post notification and it turns out to be jaw jagging. I don’t mind a few questions about someone’s gear but there is way too much talk here. No freeloading 
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Posted: 8/29/2018 9:39:46 PM EDT
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One of my test rigs
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Posted: 8/30/2018 11:20:20 AM EDT
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Just starting out.. Still waiting on my plates from highcom.
Estimated ship date is 10/28
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Posted: 9/1/2018 3:57:24 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NVjunkie: This Hate seeing new post notification and it turns out to be jaw jagging. I don’t mind a few questions about someone’s gear but there is way too much talk here. No freeloading https://i.imgur.com/zM5sn5M.jpg |
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Posted: 9/1/2018 5:37:56 PM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By ICED_COVFEFE: What rig is this? |
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Posted: 9/2/2018 1:46:46 PM EDT
[#43]
Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By D_Man:
Shellback Banshee 2.0 |
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Posted: 9/6/2018 8:35:42 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By NVjunkie: This Hate seeing new post notification and it turns out to be jaw jagging. I don’t mind a few questions about someone’s gear but there is way too much talk here. No freeloading https://i.imgur.com/zM5sn5M.jpg |
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Posted: 9/6/2018 9:56:18 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flashbag:
Funny thats the same pic FullAutoHound posted on page 78. Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By flashbag:
Originally Posted By NVjunkie: This Hate seeing new post notification and it turns out to be jaw jagging. I don’t mind a few questions about someone’s gear but there is way too much talk here. No freeloading https://i.imgur.com/zM5sn5M.jpg |
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Posted: 9/6/2018 10:16:22 AM EDT
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Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Everythingisawesome:
Does it seem...familiar? Quote HistoryOriginally Posted By Everythingisawesome:
Originally Posted By flashbag:
Originally Posted By NVjunkie: This Hate seeing new post notification and it turns out to be jaw jagging. I don’t mind a few questions about someone’s gear but there is way too much talk here. No freeloading https://i.imgur.com/zM5sn5M.jpg 
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Posted: 9/6/2018 12:58:06 PM EDT
[Last Edit: AWDeity]
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Posted: 9/21/2018 1:49:07 PM EDT
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my very basic setup. London Bridge Trading 6094, Level III Lightweight UHMWPE plates, couple of HSGI tacos. bought an LBT mag insert, gonna try that instead of the tacos (which seem to interfere with my sling).
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Posted: 9/27/2018 7:39:44 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/30/2018 7:46:40 PM EDT
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