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Posted: 9/4/2017 1:38:02 PM EDT
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Yup should be fine.
Finding the virgin action is the hard part. |
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Posted: 9/4/2017 1:50:43 PM EDT
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The reason the Mossberg Shockwave can use a 14" barrel is the length of the action is much longer than a SxS - with the SxS, you'll be very close (if not longer) than 18" barrels to make the 26" OAL.
Get out your tape measure. 
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Posted: 9/4/2017 2:01:06 PM EDT
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The reason the Mossberg Shockwave can use a 14" barrel is the length of the action is much longer than a SxS - with the SxS, you'll be very close (if not longer) than 18" barrels to make the 26" OAL. Get out your tape measure.
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Posted: 9/4/2017 2:38:42 PM EDT
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I've always thought some company in US should make a receiver that would accept Chinese coach gun parts. Then you'd have ability to do AOWs.
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Posted: 9/4/2017 5:41:28 PM EDT
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27.75" for the triple threat shotgun without the stock attachment. If you got a little more aggressive on shortening the grip you could get closer to 26" and not lose any control.
https://www.americanrifleman.org/articles/2013/1/14/chiappa-arms-triple-threat/ |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 12:27:53 AM EDT
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Double barrel pump, one rack loads one shell into each chamber, single trigger like a single trigger break open, action locked until second of two rounds is fired.
12 rounds of self-defense on tap. We went to the moon. It can be done. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 10:30:55 AM EDT
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Double barrel pump, one rack loads one shell into each chamber, single trigger like a single trigger break open, action locked until second of two rounds is fired. 12 rounds of self-defense on tap. We went to the moon. It can be done. Double barrel pump shotgun |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 10:41:09 AM EDT
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26 is 26.. barrel may be over 14 inches, but the gun will be the same length as the shockwave.. Have fun, Bob S. |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 3:14:22 PM EDT
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This^
I measured my 20ga SxS coachgun. It has 20" barrels and it would be 27" if I cut it off right at the end of the grip. The thing that makes me hesitant is the thought of the tang safety shredding the web of my hand. Gloves might help. 
It could be fun though............ 
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Posted: 9/5/2017 4:20:37 PM EDT
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Posted: 9/5/2017 4:34:59 PM EDT
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This^ I measured my 20ga SxS coachgun. It has 20" barrels and it would be 27" if I cut it off right at the end of the grip. The thing that makes me hesitant is the thought of the tang safety shredding the web of my hand. Gloves might help.
It could be fun though............ https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/13714003_1416793061670568_711512561_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTMwNzg3MDc4NDM5NTg2NzgwOQ%3D%3D.2 ETA... What is considered the "Action" or "receiver" part of gun like this.. In other words where does the barrel begin.. Immediately at the end were you load the shells? or after the "chamber" |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 5:23:23 PM EDT
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This what Im getting at, only with a OAL 26.5.. ETA... What is considered the "Action" or "receiver" part of gun like this.. In other words where does the barrel begin.. Immediately at the end were you load the shells? or after the "chamber" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This^ I measured my 20ga SxS coachgun. It has 20" barrels and it would be 27" if I cut it off right at the end of the grip. The thing that makes me hesitant is the thought of the tang safety shredding the web of my hand. Gloves might help.
It could be fun though............ https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/13714003_1416793061670568_711512561_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTMwNzg3MDc4NDM5NTg2NzgwOQ%3D%3D.2 ETA... What is considered the "Action" or "receiver" part of gun like this.. In other words where does the barrel begin.. Immediately at the end were you load the shells? or after the "chamber" ETA: measured with the action closed of course |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 9:04:43 PM EDT
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I've always wanted a 12" BP sxs with a stock
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Posted: 9/5/2017 9:40:12 PM EDT
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I've always wanted a 12" BP sxs with a stock |
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Posted: 9/5/2017 10:41:30 PM EDT
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Me too... I have plenty of shotguns, but there is just something about a short SXS... I cant own SBS in NY, but the shockwave is legal, hence me starting this thread.. Agreed a short sxs with a stock is hands down better, but I would settle for a short barreled "birdshead" gripped one if Its do able..
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Posted: 9/5/2017 11:00:33 PM EDT
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This what Im getting at, only with a OAL 26.5.. ETA... What is considered the "Action" or "receiver" part of gun like this.. In other words where does the barrel begin.. Immediately at the end were you load the shells? or after the "chamber" Quote HistoryQuoted:
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This^ I measured my 20ga SxS coachgun. It has 20" barrels and it would be 27" if I cut it off right at the end of the grip. The thing that makes me hesitant is the thought of the tang safety shredding the web of my hand. Gloves might help.
It could be fun though............ https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/13714003_1416793061670568_711512561_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTMwNzg3MDc4NDM5NTg2NzgwOQ%3D%3D.2 ETA... What is considered the "Action" or "receiver" part of gun like this.. In other words where does the barrel begin.. Immediately at the end were you load the shells? or after the "chamber" The important thing to remember is that with a "shockwave", you are trading barrel length for pistol grip length. Also, if the host gun ever was a "shotgun" (meaning it has/had a shoulder stock), you cannot shorten its barrel(s) to less than 18", regardless of the resulting overall length, without becoming a short-barreled shotgun. Either way, the overall length of the "firearm" still must be at least 26" to be non-NFA. |
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Posted: 9/6/2017 4:31:59 AM EDT
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I had a 1897 stock that had an unrepairable split in it. I was able to make a pistol grip out of it. I had it on a E model 1897 with 18 inch barrel.
I thought the OAL was something less than 28 inches. Maybe 27 inches. I have it around here some where, but have not been able to find it. I pull out one of the 97 trenchguns and check if I am remembering right. A 97 shockwave take down would be neat. I would have a Bullet SBS if I could own one here. SBR yes but no SBS yet. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 12:13:32 AM EDT
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This^ I measured my 20ga SxS coachgun. It has 20" barrels and it would be 27" if I cut it off right at the end of the grip. The thing that makes me hesitant is the thought of the tang safety shredding the web of my hand. Gloves might help.
It could be fun though............ https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s480x480/e35/13714003_1416793061670568_711512561_n.jpg?ig_cache_key=MTMwNzg3MDc4NDM5NTg2NzgwOQ%3D%3D.2 And it's not the thumb safety you have to worry about shredding your hand, it's the lever to open the gun. I think only 4 people shot that gun before I sold it(including me). All 4 of us split the web of our hand with the lever. Two more did the same after I sold it and they ignored my advice to wear gloves. ETA-there have been times I've considered a tax stamp for my H&R 10 gauge. If I cut it to 10" who wants to shoot it? 
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Posted: 9/10/2017 10:45:34 AM EDT
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Bought an old single shot from my cousin for $10 years ago. Chopped both ends. With an 18 1/4" barrel I had to leave a couple inches of stock past the pistol grip to stay above 26". With the barrel going back into the receiver like singles and doubles do, you'll have a tough time finding one where the design of the gun will allow a sub-18" barrel and a short enough rear end to maintain legal OAL. At my LGS, they have the Zenith Coach Gun in stock, with it's 18.5" barrel, you could cut it down to just the pistol grip and maintain a 27" OAL - it's tempting... 
Bob S. |
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Posted: 9/10/2017 11:32:29 AM EDT
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Just for clarification, if it was ever a "shotgun" (had a stock), you can't legally go below a 18" barrel without paying for the SBS tax stamp - even if you make the 26" OAL requirement. . |
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Posted: 9/11/2017 3:18:01 AM EDT
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You could make it happen with a side-by-side: All it would take to run barrels shorter than 18" and remain non-NFA would be a virgin receiver and a reeeeally looooong "shockwave" style pistol grip. Yes, it would look quite ridiculous.
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Posted: 9/12/2017 10:03:10 PM EDT
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HOLY crap OP you absolutely MUST post pics please.
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Posted: 9/20/2017 7:36:59 PM EDT
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You could always buy the Pedersoli "Auto & Burglar" Howdah 45/410 double barrel pistol. Not cheap, though.
Howdah pistol Howdah review |
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Posted: 9/20/2017 9:44:16 PM EDT
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You could always buy the Pedersoli "Auto & Burglar" Howdah 45/410 double barrel pistol. Not cheap, though. Howdah pistol Howdah review In a 10" dbl barrel shotty package, the optimum minimum caliber is 20ga, but then there's that pesky NFA thang. 
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Posted: 10/1/2017 10:30:51 PM EDT
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I'd buy one!
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Posted: 10/1/2017 10:49:12 PM EDT
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Sounds pointless since you'll have to have a barrel over 18" to meet the minimum length requirement of 26" overall. Even if you use a 18" barrel it will be NFA because the overall length is under 26" long. So you can forget using a barrel under 18" and not being NFA, not going to happen.
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Posted: 10/13/2017 3:42:58 AM EDT
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Yup should be fine. Finding the virgin action is the hard part. I'd like a sxs other but honestly what I really really want is an A5 other. |
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Posted: 10/13/2017 7:51:19 AM EDT
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Can I just make one? Let's assume I have the machine skills, would it be legal to make an other receiver? I'd like a sxs other but honestly what I really really want is an A5 other. Quote HistoryQuoted:
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Yup should be fine. Finding the virgin action is the hard part. I'd like a sxs other but honestly what I really really want is an A5 other. |
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Posted: 10/13/2017 1:44:03 PM EDT
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You could always buy the Pedersoli "Auto & Burglar" Howdah 45/410 double barrel pistol. Not cheap, though. Howdah pistol Howdah review |
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Posted: 10/14/2017 10:20:37 AM EDT
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I'd rather have a 12ga
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Posted: 10/14/2017 10:33:01 AM EDT
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Posted: 10/14/2017 10:54:56 AM EDT
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Can I just make one? Let's assume I have the machine skills, would it be legal to make an other receiver? I'd like a sxs other but honestly what I really really want is an A5 other. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 8:35:31 PM EDT
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If avoiding NFA issues is the point, then Pedersoli's repro of the old Ithaca Auto-Burglar is the way to go for a quality piece. The only issue with it is that the gauge (.410) sucks. In a 10" dbl barrel shotty package, the optimum minimum caliber is 20ga, but then there's that pesky NFA thang.
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Posted: 10/23/2017 8:40:04 PM EDT
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Wait, caliber makes a difference?? I didn't know the NFA discriminated between calibers Quote HistoryQuoted:
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If avoiding NFA issues is the point, then Pedersoli's repro of the old Ithaca Auto-Burglar is the way to go for a quality piece. The only issue with it is that the gauge (.410) sucks. In a 10" dbl barrel shotty package, the optimum minimum caliber is 20ga, but then there's that pesky NFA thang. |
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Posted: 10/23/2017 10:19:05 PM EDT
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Wait, caliber makes a difference?? I didn't know the NFA discriminated between calibers |
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