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Originally Posted By CATM-Al:
I wondered what that combo would look like. Virgin receiver from AI&P Tac? Question, where is your rear sight? Gonna make patterning and grouping difficult. S/F Al View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By CATM-Al:
Originally Posted By yamadog35:
My 14" 870 Marine SBS that I just made a couple of changes to. This was a "build" that started with a virgin Marine receiver. I then bought the factory barrel and finished it out with other 870 parts I had on the shelf along with Magpul furniture. I recently added the Wilson/Scattergun +1 extension and sling. I also sent the barrel to the good folks at Rose Action Sports to have it machined for RemChokes. My next activity is to get to the range and pattern test with a couple of defense loads I like using different size choke tubes. https://i.imgur.com/QY1x6pI.jpg https://i.imgur.com/pLZojMA.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Kq5mogz.jpg Question, where is your rear sight? Gonna make patterning and grouping difficult. S/F Al For me it's not difficult to line up at all. The Magpul stock puts my line of sight right along the top of the receiver which has a machined "channel" along the top (not sure what else to call it). My eye picks up that channel which centers rear of receiver to the front sight. You get used to adjusting where you place the front sight on target as it then tends to shoot a bit low. I have another 870 with almost exact same configuration. A couple of range sessions and I was putting the loads right on target. |
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Originally Posted By yamadog35:
Yes, receiver purchased from JD at AI&P. For me it's not difficult to line up at all. The Magpul stock puts my line of sight right along the top of the receiver which has a machined "channel" along the top (not sure what else to call it). My eye picks up that channel which centers rear of receiver to the front sight. You get used to adjusting where you place the front sight on target as it then tends to shoot a bit low. I have another 870 with almost exact same configuration. A couple of range sessions and I was putting the loads right on target. View Quote View All Quotes View All Quotes Originally Posted By yamadog35:
Originally Posted By CATM-Al:
Originally Posted By yamadog35:
My 14" 870 Marine SBS that I just made a couple of changes to. This was a "build" that started with a virgin Marine receiver. I then bought the factory barrel and finished it out with other 870 parts I had on the shelf along with Magpul furniture. I recently added the Wilson/Scattergun +1 extension and sling. I also sent the barrel to the good folks at Rose Action Sports to have it machined for RemChokes. My next activity is to get to the range and pattern test with a couple of defense loads I like using different size choke tubes. https://i.imgur.com/QY1x6pI.jpg https://i.imgur.com/pLZojMA.jpg https://i.imgur.com/Kq5mogz.jpg Question, where is your rear sight? Gonna make patterning and grouping difficult. S/F Al For me it's not difficult to line up at all. The Magpul stock puts my line of sight right along the top of the receiver which has a machined "channel" along the top (not sure what else to call it). My eye picks up that channel which centers rear of receiver to the front sight. You get used to adjusting where you place the front sight on target as it then tends to shoot a bit low. I have another 870 with almost exact same configuration. A couple of range sessions and I was putting the loads right on target. |
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Shockwave to SBS
Added a Choate stock shortened to 12.5 inch LOP including limbsaver pad. Also added a Shoten action release so the action can be released by my thumb. Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By dntama:
Shockwave to SBS Added a Choate stock shortened to 12.5 inch LOP including limbsaver pad. Also added a Shoten action release so the action can be released by my thumb. https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52218/9D71078E-10BC-40B7-A531-291863E6CFD0-615571.JPGhttps://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/52218/915802C6-0775-4299-891F-161700B81BF8-615575.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Lerch641:
How do you like the Shoten release? I've had it in my favorites for years and keep debating it... View Quote It does have a lot of sharp edges that need to smoothed out with a file. It also needed some minor fitting to work in my 590a1 aluminum trigger housing. Installation and fitting took me about 3 hrs. I still need to file a few sharp edges. |
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Just picked up my first short shotgun, a police trade-in 590A1. At $225 shipped I wish I would have bought 2 of them. I'm liking it!
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Ooh I picked up a couple at that price that also had surefire forends. 2nd hand NFA is far cheaper than most people believe.
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Originally Posted By M1tchell:
Just picked up my first short shotgun, a police trade-in 590A1. At $225 shipped I wish I would have bought 2 of them. I'm liking it! https://www.AR15.Com/media/mediaFiles/416483/IMG_20180825_174717-651023.JPG View Quote |
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Originally Posted By steviesterno16: @Wingnut116ACW where? That price is cheaper than the forearm alone! View Quote They have the 590 with ghost rings in stock for $225 right now but no Surefires thrown in. Keep an eye on Summit Gunbroker for 870 Wingmasters for cheap. |
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Originally Posted By Pneumagger:
How you like that Aimpoint Micro Sync mount? ^^ I'm really liking my RMR Sync mount, although I might get a tiny 1/16" riser plate for the RMR to bring it up a tad and swap out the factory D2 rear ghost ring for a simpler D4 ghost ring to unclutter my cowitness view. My M2 Entry just got approved yesterday after nearly 7 months of waiting. I had the shorter stock and Sync/RMR waiting at home to go on it. All it needs now is just a light and a sling and I'll be good to go. I'm thinking this is going to be the new primary Home Defense gun. https://i.imgur.com/TtJVyKo.jpg https://i.imgur.com/80ZH8xU.jpg https://i.imgur.com/do2dJ9f.jpg https://i.imgur.com/CIml0VF.jpg https://i.imgur.com/4E3m1ad.jpg View Quote |
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Yeah, I found this factory SBS for about $1k (which seemed like a pretty good price for a new ghost-ring Entry model) and then picked up the RMR/Sync combo for like $400 during an Amazon promotion. I couldn't pass up on the build at that point. Granted, it's not an M4 so I'll only make it almost all the way through the end of the world... but then again it's also about 2# lighter, so I won't die as tired either
I hear you on the regular Benelli stocks. I think there's a "youth" 13.25 inch Comfortech, but even that's still a tad long for this gun's purpose and it costs $400 to boot. Mesa sells a $140 12.5" stock but I thought I could make the same product myself for basically free. So while I waiting on the paperwork, I went ahead and chopped the original stock down to 12" LOP. Here's the photo album of the stock modification I performed: https://imgur.com/a/E215mzm Fusion Firearms sells stand-alone D4 Ghost Ring inserts for like $20. I think I'll order one of those if I don't end up machining the ears off my D2 myself. |
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Originally Posted By Pneumagger:
Yeah, I found this factory SBS for about $1k (which seemed like a pretty good price for a new ghost-ring Entry model) and then picked up the RMR/Sync combo for like $400 during an Amazon promotion. I couldn't pass up on the build at that point. Granted, it's not an M4 so I'll only make it almost all the way through the end of the world... but then again it's also about 2# lighter, so I won't die as tired either I hear you on the regular Benelli stocks. I think there's a "youth" 13.25 inch Comfortech, but even that's still a tad long for this gun's purpose and it costs $400 to boot. Mesa sells a $140 12.5" stock but I thought I could make the same product myself for basically free. So while I waiting on the paperwork, I went ahead and chopped the original stock down to 12" LOP. Here's the photo album of the stock modification I performed: https://imgur.com/a/E215mzm Fusion Firearms sells stand-alone D4 Ghost Ring inserts for like $20. I think I'll order one of those if I don't end up machining the ears off my D2 myself. View Quote I went with the M4 because I know and understand the platform very well. It also eats pretty much anything from low-recoil 8 pellet FC to 3" slugs just fine, and I don't worry about how I hold it (push-pull can jam an ID gun), or the weight of the light and optic (although minimal, it DOES reduce ID gun functionality, maybe making that fatal difference in running some loads, and not). Mainly, familiarity. I have tons of spare M4 stuff, and understand what makes them tick. |
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Originally Posted By JohnDough:
Just order the D4. It's the better option. I went with the M4 because I know and understand the platform very well. It also eats pretty much anything from low-recoil 8 pellet FC to 3" slugs just fine, and I don't worry about how I hold it (push-pull can jam an ID gun), or the weight of the light and optic (although minimal, it DOES reduce ID gun functionality, maybe making that fatal difference in running some loads, and not). Mainly, familiarity. I have tons of spare M4 stuff, and understand what makes them tick. View Quote I also threw a SF G2X Pro light in a CDM MOD-C mount on it. Can't have an HD gun without a light. Weight of optic, light and mounts will not be a cycling problem as the weight is still almost identical or lighter than other full size Benelli ID guns. Actual weight as pictured and loaded with 9-Pellet Federal 00B: 7.02 LBS Unloaded 7.69 LBS Loaded (7 shells) Here’s a comparison of the red dot view with the D2 vs D4 ghost ring. A lot less obstructed view. Also I’m finding the MOD-C light mount great. It couldn’t tuck the light in any tighter without having to shave material off the handsguard or the light body. I think it’s as close and low profile as a 1” light can get on this gun. Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File Attached File |
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Originally Posted By ThomasGarcia:
I don’t even have it back in my hands yet, but this is my recently approved Form 1 Remington 870 SBS. Josh from Cotton Branch Customs did the work. 10” barrel and the mag tube shortened to hold 3+1. https://i.postimg.cc/c4tBZw9Q/658-D7-FDA-0-EA1-4523-A15-B-B1-A799039-CCD.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Zn2Pp5RB/7-E5-A1-CC5-E389-4-D4-F-BB5-D-819-EDFFEED1-C.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/v8Ntp3zY/DB6317-A8-EF3-D-4-BE7-9126-97697115-F94-B.jpg View Quote Cheers |
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Originally Posted By ThomasGarcia:
I don’t even have it back in my hands yet, but this is my recently approved Form 1 Remington 870 SBS. Josh from Cotton Branch Customs did the work. 10” barrel and the mag tube shortened to hold 3+1. https://i.postimg.cc/c4tBZw9Q/658-D7-FDA-0-EA1-4523-A15-B-B1-A799039-CCD.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Zn2Pp5RB/7-E5-A1-CC5-E389-4-D4-F-BB5-D-819-EDFFEED1-C.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/v8Ntp3zY/DB6317-A8-EF3-D-4-BE7-9126-97697115-F94-B.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By ThomasGarcia:
I don’t even have it back in my hands yet, but this is my recently approved Form 1 Remington 870 SBS. Josh from Cotton Branch Customs did the work. 10” barrel and the mag tube shortened to hold 3+1. https://i.postimg.cc/c4tBZw9Q/658-D7-FDA-0-EA1-4523-A15-B-B1-A799039-CCD.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/Zn2Pp5RB/7-E5-A1-CC5-E389-4-D4-F-BB5-D-819-EDFFEED1-C.jpg https://i.postimg.cc/v8Ntp3zY/DB6317-A8-EF3-D-4-BE7-9126-97697115-F94-B.jpg View Quote |
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Originally Posted By Shootindave:
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Mossberg 590 Shockwave wearing a Hogue pump arm and short LOP stock.
With the XS big dot front sight it couldn’t be more KISS. Attached File |
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Originally Posted By yamadog35:
I've had a couple SBS projects in the works for awhile. I finally got this one done. 870 Special Field with 10.5" barrel. I have a local gunsmith that did the barrel chop. He did a proper cut/machine on the rib and re-blued the machined surfaces. To top it off he threaded for chokes. I shortened the buttstock a little bit. I haven't shot it since the transformation, but it was a smooth shotgun in its original form. https://i.imgur.com/Zi6Dtov.jpg https://i.imgur.com/yURuxxG.jpg View Quote Cheers |
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Originally Posted By Shootindave:
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SBS number 6 on the right is approved. SBS number 7 is on the left and has 8 more months in jail. Both are 14” PD trade in Benelli M1S90’s.. |
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Long Stocks are LLoooonnnng.
Cut at least one of those bad boys down to a 12" LOP. My dealer let me take the pistol grip stock home with me so I could chop it while waiting for the paperwork. |
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Originally Posted By Conqueror:
https://i.imgur.com/RQUUZfl.jpg https://i.imgur.com/FVgMiA2.jpg Two very different approaches. Top is a CZ Hammer Classic I form 1'd. Rose Action Sports did the barrel work. I always wanted an external hammer "cowboy shotgun" and this one was too beautiful to pass up. The other is a factory M4 Entry. It came with a Surefire M80 cheese grater that I sold and swapped for a FFT standard forend. I have an RMR waiting for it. It's still in jail so unfortunately I have no better pics from my last "conjugal visit." View Quote If you're going with an RMR on the M4, ditch the rail and get the Scalarworks RMR Mount. Also swap the rear LPA ring out for a D4 ring (the one without the dots) if it doesn't already have it. The rear ring with the dots obstructed too much of the RMR on my M2+RMR combo and swapping it the D4 was great. |
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Both are works in progress, 870 12 Gauge SBS and 590 20 Gauge AOW:
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Damn, that’s nice
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Originally Posted By Pneumagger:
Good Looking Sticks, CQ. If you're going with an RMR on the M4, ditch the rail and get the Scalarworks RMR Mount. Also swap the rear LPA ring out for a D4 ring (the one without the dots) if it doesn't already have it. The rear ring with the dots obstructed too much of the RMR on my M2+RMR combo and swapping it the D4 was great. View Quote Hey man! Haven't seen you in forever. Good call on the Scalarworks mount, that is sexy, will pick one up. As far as the D4 ring, did you get yours from LPA? I think they make the OEM Benelli sights, but I can't find anywhere that has a Benelli-labeled D4 ring aperture for sale. I found a place that has the LPA ones for $20. |
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Originally Posted By Conqueror: @Pneumagger Hey man! Haven't seen you in forever. Good call on the Scalarworks mount, that is sexy, will pick one up. As far as the D4 ring, did you get yours from LPA? I think they make the OEM Benelli sights, but I can't find anywhere that has a Benelli-labeled D4 ring aperture for sale. I found a place that has the LPA ones for $20. View Quote LPA does supply the OEM Benelli sights, but I'm pretty sure I got my LPA D4 rear ring from Fusion Firearms ... https://www.fusionfirearms.com/d4-standard-ghost-ring-for-bar-sights I wish Scalarworks or Midwest still made their Mossberg 590 Micro red dot mounts because I really want to put one of the nicer Holosun red dots on my shockwave SBS. |
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